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Question about RHS installation. - 1/15/2008 10:24:02 PM   
resconq


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Status: offline 		Okay, forgive my ignorance.
I have been to the RHS web site and have read the installation instructions.
But the instructions as posted do not match up with the files.
For example, the instructions mention a new starter button. I can find no such button.
When I go to the level 7 map files, there are sveral files available for download, both with and without hexes. I have no idea if I should download one or all 3 files.
Is there any recent list of EXACTLY what files I should install if I want to play level 7 RHSAIO? And better yet, are there clear instructions as to how to install these files? Please help!!
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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/16/2008 1:01:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Update: I attempted to install as per instructions.
Went through surprise turn on 12/7 (BTW the map is amazing) without a hitch, so I must be doing at least something right.
Anyway, I get to allied turn and none of the ship art is visible. Worse, when I tried to view specific ship reinforcements, I got a CTD. I am a computer dummy, but I believe it has something to do with the location to which I extracted the ship art.

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/16/2008 1:15:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		You need to unzip the downloaded ship art folder and copy/paste or drag/drop each of the ship pics into the games' art folder..

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/16/2008 1:21:55 AM   
resconq


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Status: offline 		Thanks for the quick reply.
I don't think the problem is which folder I'm copying to. I think the problem is that I'm copying the incorrect file into the folder. There are numerous files to choose from and the installation guide isn't describing exact file names and locations.

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/16/2008 6:31:13 AM   
el cid again

 

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Status: offline 		There is now a new RHS standard ship art (standard meaning using a common standard with new stock and CHS art)
but it isn't posted to the site. Both site managers are not available at the moment - so I sent this to people who wanted it. I need an email address to send it to you.


There is an extensive install section in the RHS Manual - which is on the site - and which I also can send.

There is an RHS installer - the link is posted in the thread - but it does not contain the latest RHS files. Soon this will be reissued in a polished form with current files.

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/16/2008 1:33:41 PM   
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I installed V7 of RHS but i'm running into issues with certain cities. I'm playing the RHSAIO jap as teh AI scenario. Cities like rangoon and a few on australia and some other cities there are ships but i cant get them to leave port for the life of me. When i hit 1 they say they are LAND hexes too i have used teh right maps at least i think i have i used the V7 maps with the 1 V7 update.

Am i doing something wrong?
Thanks!

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/16/2008 1:45:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did you install the pwhex.dat file in the main WITP directory? To emphasize, that one goes in the top folder (wherever you have RHS installed), not in the scenario sub-folder. I suppose it could be other things wrong, but that's the first one to check.

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/16/2008 8:21:38 PM   
el cid again

 

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ORIGINAL: bwheatley

hay guys,

I installed V7 of RHS but i'm running into issues with certain cities. I'm playing the RHSAIO jap as teh AI scenario. Cities like rangoon and a few on australia and some other cities there are ships but i cant get them to leave port for the life of me. When i hit 1 they say they are LAND hexes too i have used teh right maps at least i think i have i used the V7 maps with the 1 V7 update.

Am i doing something wrong?
Thanks!


This must be a pwhex issue. You need Level 7 pwhex.dat = STANDARDpwhex7.dat

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/17/2008 1:03:15 AM   
bwheatley

 

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Status: offline 		thats probably what i did i completely didn't read the readme in the zips so thats probably where i got screwed up. Thanks for not calling me a noob and telling me to piss off :)

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/17/2008 1:09:01 AM   
bwheatley

 

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http://rhs.akdreemer.com/RHS%20Basic%20Install%20Sets/RHS%20Instalation%20Guide%20V1.00.txt

Now just to find which zip has this pwhex file
I don't see the pwhex in any of the map zips or even the scenario zips. That also probably explains why ships were disregarding the sea lanes on teh maps edge :)

Can you guys point me in the right direction as to where the hexdat file is? Thanks

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/17/2008 1:12:36 AM   
bwheatley

 

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Status: offline 		ok i see reference to the pwhex in the pdf guide but no location where to get it from

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/17/2008 1:14:42 AM   
bwheatley

 

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Status: offline 		ok i'ma retard found it in the maps thing as a nother directory.

Thanks :) sorry for the retardation. Now i can evacuate those transports from rangoon! yay!

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/17/2008 12:11:10 PM   
el cid again

 

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Status: offline 		Note if you elect to use RIVERpwhex7.dat - rename it pwhex.dat - you can even "evacuate" the river ships - presumably up the coast to India. But you must carefully NOT allow big ships to enter the rivers while you use it. For safety, go back to using the regular pwhex file a turn or so later: rename STANDARDpwhex7.dat as pwhex.dat when you want to go back.

There is also a RRRIVERpwhex7.dat file - for use to "open" the river systems AFTER the change to build rail lines.


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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/17/2008 10:35:26 PM   
bwheatley

 

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Status: offline 		yea thats what i had to do i had a sub stuck in one of the no go zones NNW of the panama canal

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/18/2008 4:16:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Who is the RHS installer? I can't find the link.-
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks.
marioa


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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/20/2008 8:56:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't have an installer i had to goto the site and download all the packages seperately depending on waht i wanted to use.


A question for you el cid... i'm playing RHSAIO with AI japan. Its 2/15/42 and the japs have taken malaya and PI but they havent even entered the Manila Hex or the singapore hex. I mean they are pounding me by the air but i'm suprised they havent moved any units into the hex yet.

Any ideas?

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/20/2008 3:22:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry it took so long to answer.  I wasn't able to view the forums for a/b a week until I figured out I needed to delete my internet browsing history.  Yes I am interested in obtaining that ship art by email, and here's my address: tacitus27@aol.com.
I tried installing again and got the same CTD.  So as far as I know, the ship art files currently on the RHS website aren't meshing witht the rest of the scenarion.

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/20/2008 6:21:09 PM   
el cid again

 

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Status: offline 		Mifune is ready to update the site. But I am having problems (like his - virus related) and I am not ready to send most forward.
But ship art is ready - and alvrmartin should be able to provide them. I will advise him.

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/23/2008 11:25:12 PM   
bwheatley

 

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/23/2008 11:31:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bwheatley

I didn't have an installer i had to goto the site and download all the packages seperately depending on waht i wanted to use.


A question for you el cid... i'm playing RHSAIO with AI japan. Its 2/15/42 and the japs have taken malaya and PI but they havent even entered the Manila Hex or the singapore hex. I mean they are pounding me by the air but i'm suprised they havent moved any units into the hex yet.

Any ideas?



Yes

Idea number one: if you want "intelligent" play do not play vs AI - which in spite of its name is most unintelligent!

Idea number two: AI's "strategy" is to assume you do the "historical" thing and hide out on Bataan - so it goes there first.
This is ahistorical in the sense that Homma went for Manila first. But I cannot change hard code. It is not unusual for AI to neglect major parts of DEI and the Philippines - forever.

Idea number three: AIO and CAIO are practice scenarios - so players may learn the game without embarassing themselves vs human opponents. It is the best possible. I can make them slightly better - and am doing so as time passes - but they will NEVER do what they should and will ALWAYS waste at least 5/6 of Japans shipping potential - and not be realistic in ways similar to your problem here - unless Matrix invests money in AI - which it won't do even for AE. Sorry.














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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/24/2008 1:05:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: el cid again

Idea number two: AI's "strategy" is to assume you do the "historical" thing and hide out on Bataan - so it goes there first.
This is ahistorical in the sense that Homma went for Manila first. But I cannot change hard code.



FYI only, in my discontinued RHSCAIO 7.77854 game ended 1/19/1942, I took a stand at Clark withdrawing many troops to that location, but not at the expense of Bataan or Manila. For two plus weeks the Japanese banged heads at Clark with approximately even troop numbers of 30,000 plus each and were still fighting. There were no (not one) attack against Bataan or Manila. The Japanese had captured Mauban-Lamon Bay and Lucena (Luzon) and were occupied.

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/24/2008 6:48:04 AM   
el cid again

 

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Status: offline 		The place to defend is Baguio - it is malaria free - it is mountains - it has food - and it has resources of more valuable kinds - also an airfield.
Yamashita did this - and we decided fighting was not worth the trouble. We got him surrender orders. When I first saw Baguio City - after hours of crossing ridge lines with swift rivers - I said "MacArthur was a fool"

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/24/2008 1:37:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: el cid again

The place to defend is Baguio - it is malaria free - it is mountains - it has food - and it has resources of more valuable kinds - also an airfield.
Yamashita did this - and we decided fighting was not worth the trouble. We got him surrender orders. When I first saw Baguio City - after hours of crossing ridge lines with swift rivers - I said "MacArthur was a fool"



Wrong subject for the thread but I really don't understand the games ground war (defense modifiers, etc). Game-wise, can't Baguio be cut off from the supply stream from Manila. I picked Clark because it looked like it would block attacks on Manila (where all the supplies are) from the north where the majority of the enemy troops were coming from.

I don't understand how the 50 daily supply allocation computes into supporting the number of troops it takes to defend the location or how the 300 daily resorces converts to supplies without a port. Like I say I am not that savvy with this portion of the game.

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/24/2008 1:41:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe this is one of those times when the game differs from reality. I've never been there, but maybe Baguio could have been better if it were properly fortified and stocked with supplies? Just speculating.

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/24/2008 1:44:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Maybe this is one of those times when the game differs from reality. I've never been there, but maybe Baguio could have been better if it were properly fortified and stocked with supplies? Just speculating.

That is what I was thinking but Sid did say malaria free area which I was relating to the game.

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/24/2008 5:21:51 PM   
el cid again

 

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ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

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ORIGINAL: el cid again

The place to defend is Baguio - it is malaria free - it is mountains - it has food - and it has resources of more valuable kinds - also an airfield.
Yamashita did this - and we decided fighting was not worth the trouble. We got him surrender orders. When I first saw Baguio City - after hours of crossing ridge lines with swift rivers - I said "MacArthur was a fool"



Wrong subject for the thread but I really don't understand the games ground war (defense modifiers, etc). Game-wise, can't Baguio be cut off from the supply stream from Manila. I picked Clark because it looked like it would block attacks on Manila (where all the supplies are) from the north where the majority of the enemy troops were coming from.

I don't understand how the 50 daily supply allocation computes into supporting the number of troops it takes to defend the location or how the 300 daily resorces converts to supplies without a port. Like I say I am not that savvy with this portion of the game.


Baguio does not need an LOC to get supplies as long as it is not occupied by the enemy - it makes its own. These will tend to build up if you have HQ and units in the hex. Indeed, cutting it off means it does not give up supplies. Most players ignore it - and it will be a nasty fight due to mountains - so they may be wise to ignore it. 50 plus 300 = 350 times 30 = 10,500 supply per month. Port matters not a whit.

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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/24/2008 5:24:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Maybe this is one of those times when the game differs from reality. I've never been there, but maybe Baguio could have been better if it were properly fortified and stocked with supplies? Just speculating.

That is what I was thinking but Sid did say malaria free area which I was relating to the game.



ONLY in RHS - not in any other form of WITP - is it malaria free.

Deliberately - because it is IRL.

It can be fortified - and sending engineers and troops with engineers to fortify it before Japan gets there is smart.

WITP makes mountain fighting tough. IRL it was felt a battalion could hold Balinta Pass against all comers long enough to matter.
ANY battalion.




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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/24/2008 8:02:04 PM   
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RE: Question about RHS installation. - 1/25/2008 1:44:07 PM   
bwheatley

 

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Status: offline 		I know playing aganist a human is better :). I've played a few PBEM games am looking for my first PBEM for one of the RHS scenarios. I was only asking becuase in the stock game jap had going after manilla with everything and gone after singapore and burma with all its might. But in may 1942 I still control rangoon and the japs aren't coming up the coast. But saying they are following historical rules makes sense as to why they aren't coming into manilla for me. :)

Having much fun with the extra maps parts thats for sure :) Though its sure a long direct trip from new orleans to sydney. i had to wind up making pago pago and noumea mid trip supply hexes for the oil bound for australia.

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