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RE: Kamikaze missions - 2/1/2008 8:43:35 PM

Arkady

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July 1944, I launched four Kamikaze attacks till date...hit percentage is some 15 % of launched aircrafts (firts strike got more then 30% hit rate, last one against British carriers was slaughtered by CAP and only three hits to armored CVs ... )

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RE: Kamikaze missions - 2/2/2008 5:42:16 AM

Feinder

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For what it's worth, I'd say a contributing factor to "uber CAP" in WitP is the (over) effectiveness of Radar. Radar was but part of the equation. Radar could say where the strike was coming in from, the CAP directors would sned the planes on a guestimated intercept vector, and then the flight leaders would have to find the enemy.

There were many instances when an incoming flight was detected on radar, but not intercepted by CAP (either because of poor vectors by CAP controller or the fact that once CAP got there, they had a box of about 2 x 2 x 2 miles to search for enemy (which is actually a considerable amount of airspace).

That being said, the effectiveness of strikes/patrols finding an enemy fleet is also seems to be greatly over-stated. THere were many occasions when the Japanese strikes/patrols were unable to locate TF-38, and you're talking well over 200 ships about 100 miles off the coast. But there were many times when a ships radar operator watched an inbound patrol/strike wander around looking for the fleet, CAP was sent off to intercept, and strike never found TF-38 and CAP never found the strike.

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RE: Kamikaze missions - 2/2/2008 11:31:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: Panther Bait

One thing to note about the Kikusui raids (large scale kamikaze attacks during the Okinawa campaign) is that they weren't typically a single strike of 150+ kamikazes.� Those sorties happened over the course of the day (sometimes multiple days).� They were usually staging from multiple airfields spread across the region from the HI, Formosa, other islands in the Ryukus, etc.� Those raids hit the invasion fleet as individual strikes.

The most�successful Kamikaze attacks were the ones that snuck in undetected until the last minute, since it was very difficult to overwhelm the US/RN CAP and AAA with one big raid by this time.��Many of the�attacks happened around dawn or dusk when visual spotting was difficult and before the CAP (particularly USAAF CAP) was up and in place.

If 150+ planes don't form up together, or at least don't strike within mere minutes of each other, regardless of where they came from, I for one wouldn't call that a group that large, but a series of packets, be they the penny variety or not.

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