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RE: Divine Wind - 6/4/2009 6:19:51 AM   
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* Superbees still resting. I will wait to see if Larry sends his CVTF to Manila before launching that attack.


I know it is "free" intel, but I would monitor the "air bal" at Manila. Second, take a closer look at Hong Kong as a second choice by Larry.


Hong Kong has been under constant siege for 3 months. Ships just go there to die. I have a B-24 BG up at Changsha with a 72 plane P-40-N-5 unit for escort. Everytime these guys get rested up, I hit Hong Kong again. He is definitely NOT going there. Its either Manila or the HI. Here's hoping for Manila

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RE: Divine Wind - 6/4/2009 1:22:52 PM   
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If he is hurting for fuel, don't discount Brunei as a potential fuel stop.
I hate to say it but it does look like this part of the KB may have just avoided being hammered. Lets hope the subs exact a toll.

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RE: Divine Wind - 6/4/2009 2:46:09 PM   
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Well crap. Sorry to see he dodged the first bullet, at least.

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RE: Divine Wind - 6/4/2009 2:59:15 PM   
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I am having buyers remorse today. As I wait for the turn back from Larry, I am beginning to find myself wishing I had sprinted my CV's up along the north coast of Borneo. My conservative play style gets the best of me sometimes. I fear that those few times where some boldness might yield amazing results slip away from me due to timidity.

I think back when I hit Truk and obliterated a pretty powerful SCTF after they sunk my MSW's at Enitewok. Man, I should have had the huzbah to go for it!

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RE: Divine Wind - 6/4/2009 3:06:43 PM   
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I am having buyers remorse today. As I wait for the turn back from Larry, I am beginning to find myself wishing I had sprinted my CV's up along the north coast of Borneo. My conservative play style gets the best of me sometimes. I fear that those few times where some boldness might yield amazing results slip away from me due to timidity.

I think back when I hit Truk and obliterated a pretty powerful SCTF after they sunk my MSW's at Enitewok. Man, I should have had the huzbah to go for it!


Well, if he goes to Manilla, you still have a shot at him, and it's possible I suppose that he was hoping you WOULD follow him to somewhere where he had the LBA to get in a solid strike of his own. At this point, with the bad guys running from you, sinking them will just be a formality.

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RE: Divine Wind - 6/4/2009 8:45:36 PM   
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At this point, with the bad guys running from you, sinking them will just be a formality.


But, a formality that gets you points!

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Battle of the South China Sea - 6/5/2009 1:29:22 AM   
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A day of wasted angst as teh IJN does exactly what I wanted them to and the skies cleared beautifully. The Japanese were right where I expected them and my CVTF moved the desired five hexes. Today we see the likley end of Japanese carrier power for the duration of the war. Image shows how the battle went. My air losses were a little higher than I wanted but I'll deal with it.

The AM strike knocked out all the IJN flight decks as there was no resistance in the PM. Before I detail teh CV battle I will cover what else happened this turn.

* G4M2 again strike from Sorang and 7 out of 8 Betty's are splased. B-24J out of Lautem tehn shut down Sorong's AB
* My TF heading for Ambonia did not move. I assume some of the little guys needed fuel.
* LBA out of Dili hits AMbonia's Port
* LBA out of Maumere hits Kendari's AB just to make sure nobody tries to roost there again.
* Deliberate attack at Makassar comes off at 3 to 1 and doess 1500 Casualties vice 400 losses for ALlies.
* Unmak Is AB goes to Level 5! This base went from 1 to 5 in like 10 days. That's what oodles of CB will do for you

The dawn breaks bright and clear today in the South CHina Sea. The battle is fought just north of Kendari. My CVTF reacted during both the AM and PM phases closing the PM distance to a mere 120 nm. The strikes results are on the screenie and cam in this in order:

1. US CVTF strike that shut down the IJN flight decks
2. LBA strike out of Kendari largely creamed
3. IJN CVTF strike which resulted in no leakers (only about 20 fighters escorted this strike)
4. AM LBA strike out of Padang puttin two 500 lb bombs into Akagi
5. Five separate PM strikes divided between the IJN CV's and a nearby convoy
6. PM LBA stike putting another 500 lb bomb into Akagi

CV AMagi sunk before the sun set. Also one of the ML sunk. Here is the tally:

CV Amagi: 6 1000 lb bombs, 4 TT (sunk)
CV Kaga: 10 1000 lb bombs, 2 TT (heavily damged - likely a flaming wreck)
CV Akagi: 7 1000 lb bombs, 3 500 lb bombs, 1 TT (aflame but not heavily damaged - yet)

Not a bad days work. I spent twenty minutes staring at the screen deciding whether to pursue or break for home. I lost 32 F6F this turn plus have a bunch more damaged. I decided to break for home. Now the kicker: I screwed up. One 34 plane SB2C group was set on ground attack. It could have been worse





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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/5/2009 1:30:09 AM   
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The Japanese strike




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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/5/2009 1:30:52 AM   
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Todays's Air Losses




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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/5/2009 1:32:03 AM   
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The full combat report in case you were interested

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/05/44

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ASW attack at 75,78

Japanese Ships
SS I-29

Allied Ships
SC SC-750
SC SC-705
SC SC-522

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Day Air attack on Kungchang , at 46,27

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIb Nick: 3 damaged

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ki-45 KAIb Nick bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-45 KAIb Nick bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Maloelop Base Force, at 85,86


Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 56
F4U-1 Corsair x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
56 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 2nd Division, at 25,41


Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 8
Thunderbolt II x 49
Beaufighter VIC x 10
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 14


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Thunderbolt II bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Thunderbolt II bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Thunderbolt II bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Thunderbolt II bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Thunderbolt II bombing at 2000 feet
14 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 2nd Division, at 25,41


Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 16
Beaufighter VIC x 10
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 28


Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Thunderbolt II bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet
12 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
28 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,54

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 15
A6M5 Zeke x 35
A6M3a Zero x 14

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 62
F6F-5 Hellcat x 13
SB2C Helldiver x 56
TBF Avenger x 50
TBM Avenger x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 15 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 32 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 18 destroyed, 17 damaged
F6F-5 Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
SB2C Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 24 damaged
TBF Avenger: 1 destroyed, 26 damaged
TBM Avenger: 11 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Amagi, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Chikuma

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,54

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
A6M3a Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
Liberator III x 6
P-38J Lightning x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator III: 1 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Liberator III bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 39,76

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 8

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 154
P-38J Lightning x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 25,55

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 8
B7A Grace x 10
F1M2 Pete x 2
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 25
Ki-21 Sally x 15
Ki-49 Helen x 6

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 133
F6F-5 Hellcat x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 8 destroyed
B7A Grace: 10 destroyed
F1M2 Pete : 2 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 22 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 13 destroyed
Ki-49 Helen: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 17 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 25,55

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 8
B7A Grace x 10
F1M2 Pete x 2
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 25
Ki-21 Sally x 15
Ki-49 Helen x 6

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 133
F6F-5 Hellcat x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 8 destroyed
B7A Grace: 10 destroyed
F1M2 Pete : 2 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 22 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 13 destroyed
Ki-49 Helen: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 17 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 25,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 2
A6M5 Zeke x 13
D4Y Judy x 90
A6M3a Zero x 10
B6N Jill x 48
B7A Grace x 30

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 87
F6F-5 Hellcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 2 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 13 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 72 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 9 destroyed
B6N Jill: 34 destroyed
B7A Grace: 27 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 7 destroyed, 5 damaged
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71


Allied aircraft
P-47C Thunderbolt x 31
B-25J Mitchell x 45
B-17E Fortress x 21
B-17G Fortress x 12


Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
99 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 51

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17G Fortress bombing at 16000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 16000 feet
20 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 7000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 16000 feet
3 x B-17G Fortress bombing at 16000 feet
12 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 7000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 7000 feet
3 x B-17G Fortress bombing at 16000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 16000 feet
2 x B-17G Fortress bombing at 16000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 16000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 7000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 16000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 7000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 7000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on Amboina , at 40,74


Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 8
PB4Y Liberator x 32
B-24J Liberator x 44


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
8 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
6 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Sorong , at 44,74


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 64


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
20 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Maloelap , at 85,86


Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 1
B-25J Mitchell x 31


No Allied losses

Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Ponape , at 73,80


Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 22
TBF Avenger x 8
F4U-1 Corsair x 11


No Allied losses

Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x TBF Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
11 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wewak , at 54,84


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IV x 5
Beaufort V-IX x 12
A-20G Havoc x 2


Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort V-IX: 10 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 1 damaged

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Beaufort V-IX attacking at 100 feet
2 x A-20G Havoc attacking at 100 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX attacking at 100 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX attacking at 100 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX attacking at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on Admiralty Islands , at 59,84


Allied aircraft
Catalina I x 1
B-24J Liberator x 105


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 68

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
36 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
32 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,54

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 44
F6F-5 Hellcat x 11
SB2C Helldiver x 4
TBF Avenger x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
TBF Avenger: 9 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Amagi, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,54


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 8


Allied aircraft losses
TBF Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Amagi, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,55


Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 10


Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
ML Shirakami
AK Gyoun Maru
AK Takegawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,55


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 15


Allied aircraft losses
TBF Avenger: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged

Japanese Ships
ML Yaeyama
ML Hirashima, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Yahagi, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,54


Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 19
TBF Avenger x 24
TBM Avenger x 6


Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
TBF Avenger: 11 damaged
TBM Avenger: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 3, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,54


Allied aircraft
Liberator III x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Liberator III bombing at 15000 feet

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Ground combat at Kungchang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 106071 troops, 1206 guns, 548 vehicles, Assault Value = 2372

Defending force 108356 troops, 297 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2767



Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 43,39

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 80365 troops, 397 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5096

Defending force 152019 troops, 1054 guns, 329 vehicles, Assault Value = 3087


Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Ban Don

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 161383 troops, 1356 guns, 1452 vehicles, Assault Value = 4634

Defending force 164369 troops, 1257 guns, 985 vehicles, Assault Value = 3583


Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Makassar

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 43865 troops, 253 guns, 432 vehicles, Assault Value = 1008

Defending force 26814 troops, 86 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 437

Allied max assault: 969 - adjusted assault: 610

Japanese max defense: 404 - adjusted defense: 188

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1425 casualties reported
Guns lost 27
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
414 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Vehicles lost 2



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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/5/2009 5:00:54 AM   
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6 June 1944

At some point some one told me that CVE do not have there CAP reduced in coastal hexes. Well that is incorrect becasue my CVE entered AMboina and only flew 67 FM-2. I will lose a CVE as Kamikaze's struck from Menado and one hit one. It seems Larry is using the old trick of sending in three or four groups at various altitudes to disrupt the CAP. WIll CAP stacking counter this. I am going to post in the War Room.

ANyhow my 2 ID and 3 Tabk BTN are up against two SNF and 4 engineering units at AMboina. I think I brought enough.

No more sinkings reported. I hope I will get Kaga yet. AKagi will at least be out of the war for some time.

My CVTF's were attacked by G4M2 out of Palambang. All destroyed.

Next few turns will be interesting as I wait for some sinking reports. Cursor intel of Manila say 108 ships. SUperbees are almost ready.

With the pending capture of Amboina, I have an AV support crisis pending. I have three more Av RGT in bound but the closest one is 16 days out of Darwin. AMboina will have to do with two large BF's - 180 AV support. I am stripping the stupid level of AV support out of CHina but that will take months to get to the SWPAC. I have three US AV RGT there plus the indigenous chinese. More than enough for now. THe 101st AV Rgt was up at Ledo and will move to Diamond Harbor for embarkation to points south.

Final note: Victoria point went to Level 6 AB. That will give me room for the Liberator III that went to Ceylon to make room at Rangoon for the B-29

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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/5/2009 1:48:32 PM   
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With the pending capture of Amboina, I have an AV support crisis pending. I have three more AV RGT in bound but the closest one is 16 days out of Darwin. Amboina will have to do with two large BF's - 180 AV support. I am stripping the stupid level of AV support out of China but that will take months to get to the SWPAC. I have three US AV RGT there plus the indigenous chinese. More than enough for now. THe 101st AV Rgt was up at Ledo and will move to Diamond Harbor for embarkation to points south.


I usually try to get out as many BF and Aviation Rgt from the SRA at game start. Then, I work on removing fragments of all those stuck in Singapore with subs due to this issue.

I would do a quick double check throughout the West Coast to ensure that you don't have any there that you may have overlooked. Panama has a large non-static BF that I usually move forward.

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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/5/2009 2:22:52 PM   
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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/5/2009 8:42:11 PM   
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Good planning and nice results! Do you have any clean-up subs in the area?

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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/5/2009 8:49:58 PM   
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I believe he has a number around the PI, which presumably is where the Japanese will be retreating to.

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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/5/2009 10:30:39 PM   
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Good planning and nice results! Do you have any clean-up subs in the area?


Have about six lines of USN fleet boats in between the battle area and Manila with a toatal of 19 subs (was 20 but Cabrilla got roughed up by an ASW TF last turn). It is days like this that make this game so much fun. True I had a very good result but I should have considering I had 3 CV's and 7 CVL vs 3 CV and a CVE. also I know that the battle a month ago in the Celebes Sea decimated the IJN fleet air arm. Still, the decisions leading up to this battle. Do a mission speed or full speed move? Should I move here or there? WIll the Japanese be at this location or that? WHat about LBA? It really requires so much attention to detailand still I screwed up by not having the one Helldiver unit on Nav Attack. I bet I would be talking about at least two if not three dead IJN CV's now if they had flown. Still, even if Akagi and Kaga survive, you would have to call them mission kills as it is going to be a long time before I see them again.

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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/6/2009 12:39:22 AM   
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My concerns about the FM-2 proved well founded. The Japanese came in force with a blend of Frances, Betty, Kates, and Vals on conventional attack plus Sallys and Lilys on Kamikaze attacks. Fortunately I guess, they concentrated on the SCTF. P-38's are moved to Lautem to LRCAP Amboina. Hopefully this will help. In addition Weda, Moratai, and Menado are are being hit by 4E's next turn. I also am transfering in 96 more B-24J from Tarawa to augment my striking force in the region. Deliberate attack ordered at AMboina with the 24 ID standing down as they are still unloading. MSW did not sweep at Amboina again and the SCTF did not bombard.

The CAP intercepts were very frustrating seeing 18 FM-2 intercept a raid of unescorted Salys with like 2 or 3 bombers and seeing leakers. Then a large group of 50+ attack aircraft escorted by fighters gets intercepted by 9. Ah, the fickle combat engine. Image shows teh carnage. Had to scutlel one LST. If I can take this base quickly, I may be able to save the severely damaged ships.




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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/6/2009 7:25:28 PM   
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The Kamikazes come again today but are met by P-38J this time. Still had quite a few leakers but they all concentrated on CVE Corregidor which sinks but she acted as a shiled for everybody else. As it was unlikely this ship was going to be saved, I think this was a blessing in disguise. The counter air operations were not fruitful in terms of AC loss but accomplished their goals. The AB in the Moluccas are now almost empty. Two raid were launched at US CVTF which were at Bandjermasin refueling. Even with reduced CAP, they were complete wipes. Air losses today were 269 to 52 today with 19 of my losses coming when Corregidor sunk. MOst importantly, the Japanese lost about 150 first line fighteres.

The Deliberate Attack at AMboina cam off at 2 to 1 and reduced forts to 8. The 24 ID still has 2 105 mm Howitzers yet to unload. Once disruption falls in this unit, I think the base will fall quickly. Once Amboina falls, I will do a quick grab of Namlea, Babo, and Sorong as these are all empty or poorly garrisoned.

Future plans are shaping up nicely as I have two ID returning from Bandjermasin and two more ID in bound to Darwin. AMerical is at Darwin now. In addition two ID from the Solomons are heading to Townsville for R&R. Up in the HI, I have four Marine Div plus an additional two ID. These units are tabbed for Marcus and then a little surpise for Larry - Iwo Jima.

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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/7/2009 12:26:56 AM   
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The attacks continue on the ships off Amboina but the pace slackens. Attached image is of the largest attack of the day and only one AK was hit by a Kamikaze. AIr losses were at 60 to 22. The AB thee attacks are being flown from are starting to rack up damage so hopefully Larry will call it quits. The engineers arrive next trun so once the base falls I should immediately be able to base fighters there. This base is very nice in that even my short legged P-47C can hit most of the next targets and LRCAP furture invasions. Of course in 22 days I get the -D version with a little longer legs.

Liberator III flew into Victoria Point today and will commence offensive operations next turn.

Still no sunk reports on Kaga or Akagi. I think Kaga is a goner. Akagi has got to be hurting too. Superbees are waiting but I want to hold off in case I spot one of these two ships moving into Manila




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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/7/2009 6:31:02 PM   
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The meat grinder off Amboina continues. Only two ships hit today and the Japanese air losses continue to rack up. A deliberat attack came off at 2 to 1 and reduced forts one more level. Japanese AV has fallen to about 250. AS the 37th ID disruption had climbed to 34, I went back to bombardment. I have begun loading an Aussie BGD for Nalea which appears to only be held by a small BF.

Over at Makassar, my troops continue to pound aways at the Japanese troops trapped against the sea. I really think I have hit a game bug here. The Japanese troops are actually stronger now than when they controled the base. Also the icon is bright red meaning the have plenty of supplies. I have never had units retreat from a base and have that much supply. I don't think they are being supplied by air as there are no bases within range that are loaded up with auxillaries. Just seems odd.

Another 100 B-24 are added to teh counter air ops in the Moluccas with another 48 plane unit at Toiwnsville with one damage plane. I admire L:arry's williness to stand and fight but if those three bases get much higher in damage, he may risk losing a lot of airframes on the ground

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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/10/2009 12:07:49 AM   
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A day off as Larry got him a new puter for Father's Day.

Allied counter air ops finally bring fruit. The japanese lose 59 a/c today mostly on the ground including 13 G4M2, 7 Jack, and 4 each of Jill, Val, and Judy. The Japanese have withdrawn all but fighters from the Molucas and Manado. Allied losses today are 9 B-24J and 10 singles of various types. Also I notied a Glen lost to ATA combat - darn the luck eh. Guess he'll have to send that sub home for a new a/c. No attacks today at Amboina and the ALlies use the time to get more engineers offloaded. A shock attack is ordered in combination with some aerial bombardment. I need this base captured like yesterday. Troops leaving Darwin for Namlea which only has 2400 troops there.

Up north a FastTran TF moves part of a RCT to Adak. Just some security troops in case Larry tries something stupid. Once these troops are in place I will hustle a BF over there to provide for some Cap as I move my transports in with CB, supplies, and more AV support. Once Adak is up and running, I move on Amchitka. FInally tehn Attu. Finnaly got some a/c up there with the range to reach Attu and hopefully start getting some recon of that base soon.

I am moving a newly arrived 64 plane B-25 unit to Chungking to harras the Japanese in their northern offensive. A lot of damaged ships from the Padang op are nearly fully repaired. The RN CV's are the problem with two in the 8-9 range and one at 27. The SEAC 4-E's are switched to city attack/resources to eliminate some of teh free supply Japanese troops ahve been getting.

Out in the SCS, a US fleet boat attacks a lone AK on the surface during daylight - take about some big brass ones on the part of that commander. The ak is hit by two TT and 7 shells and succombs to her wounds. Another fleet boat hits a DD and suffers a very ineffective counter attack. I beleive I have found my wounded ducks. Have to see how these next few turns play out but Larry may find that his "safe harbor" at Manila is not so safe very soon




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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/10/2009 1:39:48 PM   
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Took me a few days to read all your AAR from the beginning: i find it interresting, and i like your style of writing (and of play). Congrats' .

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Took me a few days to read all your AAR from the beginning: i find it interresting, and i like your style of writing (and of play). Congrats' .


Thank you. I feel like I am plodding along. WHen I read Canoerebel's AAR or Forlorn Hopes and I see Allied players on Japan's doorstep in mid to late '43, I just shake my head and think: How do they do that? Still I like to keep my opponent wondering. My two biggest coups would definitely be the Madagn Op and the Padang op (they rhyme!) Both of these put a strong albeit isolated base right in the middle of my opponents most exposed flank.

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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/10/2009 2:49:21 PM   
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Thank you. I feel like I am plodding along. WHen I read Canoerebel's AAR or Forlorn Hopes and I see Allied players on Japan's doorstep in mid to late '43, I just shake my head and think: How do they do that?


Well, you could be in a worst shape. Not at all insulting him, but just to compare to Terje439, you're making far better !
(And Terje, if you read: good luck and much congrat for your stuborn attitude...).
And once more thanks for the enterteinement.

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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/10/2009 5:06:34 PM   
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Thank you. I feel like I am plodding along. WHen I read Canoerebel's AAR or Forlorn Hopes and I see Allied players on Japan's doorstep in mid to late '43, I just shake my head and think: How do they do that? Still I like to keep my opponent wondering. My two biggest coups would definitely be the Madagn Op and the Padang op (they rhyme!) Both of these put a strong albeit isolated base right in the middle of my opponents most exposed flank.


One of my favorite things about reading your AAR has been how methodically you've applied force to targets and how carefully you plan.

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RE: Battle of the South China Sea - 6/11/2009 6:31:19 AM   
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Amboina falls under the weight of a 17 to 1 Shock attack. ALready there are 72 P-38J and 48 P-47C. Due to our HR, they cannot fly the next turn having transferred more than 9 hexes. So I will have to endure one more turn of potential attacks then the base should be safe. What is really nice is all those medium bombers that lack the range to hit the Japanese from my current bases will now be able to hit Weda, Sorong, Babo, and Moratia from her.

Some how the combat TF I noted last turn walked right over 5 us fleet boats and didn't even get detected. Depending on what intel I can gather, Manila may be hit next turn by the Superbees. As this may be a one time even before the base is heavily capped, then I want to be certain the Japanese are there in force before I hit the base.

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Just a note so you know, Larry is on vacation for the next week or so. Actually good to get some time out of game myself. This game will get to you. I find myself laying in bed at night thinking about it. Maybe I should join Canoerebel's support group.


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Yessssss....you should joooooiiiiiiinnnnnnn meeeeeeeeeeee.

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Larry returns from vacation adn I welcome him with an invasion of Nalea. Perfect timing. Mines did some bad stuff here as my MSW did not sweep.. I have 3 to 1 AV here and as you can see the Japanese are low on supplies. Thought I would give an overview of the SRA in general. Mopping up at Makassar and Amboina. These troops seem to be putting up more of a defense after the base fell than before. Also, annoyingly them seemed to all be able to grab supplies as the vacated the bases.

SS Soulpin hit a TK off Batavia and suddenly the sea is alive with Japanese ships. Seems Larry is trying a miny breakout. LBA did not fly today due to bad weather. Hopefully tomorrow will be better.

Two CV's have left Panama for PH. Once there they will form up a couple of stout TF's to head south. They will releive the tired CV's in the SRA.






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RE: Back at it - 6/27/2009 12:06:24 AM   
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I see that Boela is still an Allied dot base. Any thoughts of grabbing it and building it up??

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