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two Germans in the Pacific - Sc17 - 6/17/2008 10:05:23 PM   
RGIJN


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Status: offline 		Frank (Fuelli) and me agreed upon a Sc17 campaign with him in charge of Allied Command and me dutifully run the Emperor´s forces. Commitment level is set 100% Allied / 180% IJN. Variable reinforcements to prevent too predictable arrival dates. Usual house rules applied. (no one-ship TFs, no corsairs, PT limit, 4E naval attack from 15000ft and so on).
Since we both share the same habitat (Germany) there should be no timezone vexations

First four days saw no action besides the usual deployment. While my troops were taking GG and Rossel Island, Frank made some probing attacks on dots and GG garrison with its a/c out of PM. Apart from that everything still looks pretty calm...









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RE: two Germans in the Pacific - Sc17 - 6/18/2008 12:04:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Pretty calm feels different...Hell broke loose in my office on 4th of May. Roosevelt himselfe called me on the phone(and you could determine from the way it was ringing)
"Why the hell do all theese little green dots on the map turn to red?" ...that was everything i could understand.
Well...it seems I have to investigate what´s going on there....

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RE: two Germans in the Pacific - Sc17 - 6/18/2008 12:57:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey coo. finaly some germans take over and show all this yankees how to play the game.

coole sache von euch. bin schon sehr gespannt auf euer AAR.

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build-up and seizure - 6/18/2008 8:55:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just landed in the Guadalcanal area, taking Lunga (where I intend to cunstruct some airstrips) and Tulagi with its splendid anchorage.

Navy minister and senior staff member ADM Yonai Mitsumasa -who is a friend of the family- told me about the perils of our Imperial rush that far south. He made me aware that the american industrial power will enable an overwhelming allied counteroffensive by all means later in the war.
Thus it´s imerative to hit hard early enough to break the back of them before they can even think about something aggressive...
To my utmost relief he assured to affect reinforcements for me, kicking them southwards ASAP and as many as possible.

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RE: build-up and seizure - 6/18/2008 10:35:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		More and more green dots desintegrate into the red hell...and I still haven´t found my green paint marker to undo this unpleasant development. Had to cut my telephone lines as I need a break to considder the situation. The reports coming from my scouting planes indicate that the japanese seem to have developed some kind of cloaking device. I really don´t know how to counter this....

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first actions over PM - 6/18/2008 7:16:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		this turn saw the first air combat over Port Moresby. Unfortunately my bombers missed their mark a bit - for six Nells and Betty´s each they just scored three fishes into Franks transports. 12 a/c lost merely in vain... The allied brought up a carrier force to cover the convoy and their Wildcats joined the army squadrons.

See the report...



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/07/42

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Air attack on 85th Naval Garrison Unit, at 12,38


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 24


no losses

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 10


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Air attack on 86th Naval Garrison Unit, at 17,42


Allied aircraft
P-40E Kittyhawk x 8
A-24 Dauntless x 12


no losses

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 10


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Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
G3M Nell x 10
G4M1 Betty x 22

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 10
P-39D Airacobra x 13
P-40E Kittyhawk x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 2 destroyed
G3M Nell x 2 destroyed
G3M Nell x 9 damaged
G4M1 Betty x 4 destroyed
G4M1 Betty x 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 damaged
P-39D Airacobra x 2 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra x 1 damaged
P-40E Kittyhawk x 2 damaged

1LT D.Evans of 36th FS is credited with kill number 2

Allied Ships
AP Orungal
MSW Ballarat
PG Swan
AP Wanganella, Torpedo hits 1
AP Ormiston, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Kanimbla


Allied ground losses:
Men lost 50

Attacking Level Bombers:
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
G3M Nell x 6

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 9
P-39D Airacobra x 10
P-40E Kittyhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed
G3M Nell x 1 destroyed
G3M Nell x 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 destroyed
P-40E Kittyhawk x 1 destroyed

LCDR G.Kasai of G2/Genzan Daitai bails out and is CAPTURED

Allied Ships
AK Mungana
AK Demodocus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Attacking Level Bombers:
2 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell at 200 feet

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RE: first actions over PM - 6/18/2008 7:34:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		where are your carriers? it would be the perfect time to strike the US carrier-force with your rested KB-samurais.

early in my game with ike, i had a similar success with my CAP over PM against his rabaul raiders. but as soon, as his KB-fighter pilots were over PM, the fun was over for the aussie and us army pilots.

so dont worry. your time will come.


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RE: first actions over PM - 6/18/2008 7:41:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bigbaba

where are your carriers? it would be the perfect time to strike the US carrier-force with your rested KB-samurais.



Kido Butai isn´t complete yet and maybe my carriers are busy elsewhere...? Another possibility my guys are in desperate need of sake due to the battles to come. It seems Rabaul pilots were drunken on their mission anyway!

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RE: first actions over PM - 6/18/2008 7:53:56 PM   
bigbaba


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Status: offline 		they better put the sake into the fuel tanks of their bettys and nells instead of drinking it.

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RE: first actions over PM - 6/18/2008 9:17:03 PM   
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they better put the sake into the fuel tanks of their bettys and nells instead of drinking it.


Ohh better not , these aircraft are flammable enough even without the "hard stuff"... They were called "one shot lighters" in the war!

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RE: first actions over PM - 6/19/2008 12:52:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Welcome aboard Bigbaba!

My Intel told me that providing close air support at PM would be without any danger. And I believed in my Intel. I was right this time. Nevertheless I have to have a seriuous talk to the Commander of the Carrier TF according to the SC TF he missed. This one did a successfull bombardement on PM facilities which could render all my effort useless.
Maybe I should reastablish the telephonelone to the nervous man called Franklin...and tell him that we are winning (as usual and everywhere)



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RE: first actions over PM - 6/19/2008 9:23:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		You can tell the agitated FDR that Phase one of the Japs is finished yet...
I was able to secure Buna, GG, Rossel, Lunga and Tulagi against no opposition. Guess the US boys know all too well about their current weakness and try to put up some kind of resistance at PM only... Of course I´m gonna cope with that issue later on

I just asked our fellow friend Adm. Yonai Mitsumasa for his honest opinion about my strategy for Phase two. Got his approval with minor changes.

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RE: first actions over PM - 6/19/2008 6:11:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lot of excitement these days. One U-Boat commander reported that he torpedoed a BB out of Lunga. Later the day the report was just slightly corrected: Barge 2030 has gone waporized by two(!) torpedoes. Yea great... I assume the torpedoes were of more value then the crappy pile of Sh**t called Barge...Back to ecomomics classes gentlemen.
My map looks more and more sick with every day that passes. Not sure if this is still the south pacific or if some exchanged the map....

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RE: first actions over PM - 6/19/2008 6:52:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		dont worry frank. after the sunrise it comes the sunset....not only in the reality.

just dig in and hold out. and when you get the right tools to play with, japanese will only be spoken in the hell.

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waste of fishes - 6/19/2008 7:11:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Today the first vitims of war hit the bottom. My sub skippers are barely two weeks at sea and demand for holidays already. Ridiculous! One SC escort was hit & sank off Townsville, but the commander of I-21 was to take the bun: he slammed no less than THREE fishes into such a tiny patrol cutter north of Noumea! No his boat is in desperate need of ammo... I guess this SC was part of a "hunter-killer" group
Furthermore a crawling AP (already hit in the PM area) met its fate just in sight of the safe Cairns harbour after another sub of mine had given the coup de grâce last turn...



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/19/42

Weather: Thunderstorms

Sub attack at 10,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-27


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Sub attack at 54,65

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
SC 639, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
SC 637


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Sub attack at 11,60

Japanese Ships
SS I-28

Allied Ships
SC 519, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


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our first night encounter - 6/19/2008 7:44:44 PM   
RGIJN


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Status: offline 		BANZAI!! See what my bombardment flotilla found at PM... They were unloading base force units. But I denied them to finish the job, since I finished THEM!





AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/20/42

Weather: Rain

Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Moresby at 10,40

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
CA Kako
CL Yubari, Shell hits 1
DD Mutsuki
DD Uzuki
DD Mochizuki
DD Yuzuki
DD Kikuzuki

Allied Ships
MSW Cairns, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SC 520
AP Manunda, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
AP Katoomba, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AP Westralia, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
Men lost 380


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Naval bombardment of Port Moresby, at 10,40


Allied aircraft


Allied aircraft losses
no losses

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 7


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RE: our first night encounter - 6/19/2008 7:47:13 PM   
RGIJN


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RE: our first night encounter - 6/19/2008 8:17:08 PM   
bigbaba


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Status: offline 		outch, that is hard.

i wonder that he didnt saw your bombard-TF coming.

in my game against "the commander" i try to avoid any surface-action early in the game because (like miller wrote very apt) the japs surface-TF are killers early in the game.

anyway...congratulation about the "fette beute", ralf.

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RE: our first night encounter - 6/19/2008 8:35:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		thanks alot. I really need this kind of success early on. Later then Frank will get the hammer in his hand . Though I´m gonna try to prevent such a dark future...

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RE: our first night encounter - 6/20/2008 12:20:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bigbaba

i wonder that he didnt saw your bombard-TF coming.



Allies don't get Mavis and Emily spy satellites. Their recon generally blows until their xp has risen into the 80s.

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RE: our first night encounter - 6/20/2008 11:58:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yep, that was exactly the problem. The first bombardemnt was revealed by my scouts and I was able to ppull out the trasnbport convoy in time. This time I was completely unaware of whats coming. I´m in desperate need of better escorts for my convoys.
Nevertheless only a part of a baseforce got drowned and PM is now up and running. GG already feels the little stitches that will come in the near future.




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quiet days - 6/20/2008 4:17:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		while everything remains pretty silent in the skies and on the seas, happy natives welcome the troops of the Emperor which just set foot on Russell Isl. Though an allied S-type ubaot managed to send a fish into one of my transports the damage is rather slight (to my surprise). After some welcome party with the folks on this paradisaic island they are going to help fixing the hole our freighter.





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RE: quiet days - 6/20/2008 5:16:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		It looks pretty calm but as far as I´m concerned I know that there is lot of activitiy behind the curtain. PM gets in better shape from day to day. The last reinforcemnts came through without beeing disturbed or even detected.
In the east we have a far different picture. In quick succession the enemy has taken Irau, Nevea and Gavigamma. Luganville alreday suffered first losses from bombardments but the dimensions of the craters revealed that the Japanese is still missing his big guns . Nothing that can´t be brought in order with a simple shovel.

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RE: quiet days - 6/20/2008 5:53:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		oh, these visits were just for fun. Want to prevent the "hot" crews of my ships making a mutiny due to boredom. Japan does not send its best stuff down there in the Nan´Yo just for holiday. At least not with me in Command... So you wanna get more...?


It will be a different kind of war than the historical fought one. Though I do mindfully respect Adm. Yamamoto Isoroku, I never agreed with most of his strategies. Above all, the "Operation MI" (the darn complicated Midway plan) and the trickling commitment of warships in the struggle for Solomons 1942. Of course I am aware of the very difficult supply situation and fuel was one of the most crucial points in those days. But IMHO, there were some things he could have done otherewise. I´ll try to make it happen.

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RE: quiet days - 6/21/2008 2:30:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		today the first bold air attack was to take place. Results were okay, but at the expense of tremendous Betty & Nell losses. Ridicoulous! It will take about three weeks to restock.
Anyway, CA CHESTER sank right away in the afternoon.



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/04/42

Weather: Overcast

Sub attack at 10,61

Japanese Ships
SS I-27

Allied Ships
AK Diomed, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


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Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 11
G4M1 Betty x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell x 1 destroyed
G3M Nell x 7 damaged
G4M1 Betty x 6 destroyed
G4M1 Betty x 22 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Chester, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA Portland
CL Hobart
CA Chicago, Torpedo hits 2, on fire


Allied ground losses:
Men lost 75

Attacking Level Bombers:
1 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet

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RE: quiet days - 6/21/2008 3:18:16 PM   
fuelli

 

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Status: offline 		This ridiculous incident is the result of order disobedient by the Fast Transport TF Commander.
Orders were:
Arrive at night
Fast unload
Sprint away from hex
And not arrive at night, do nothing and stay during daylight with the "hit me here" mark painted on the deck
Of course, not having Cap ordered up for PM is another story......
On the other hand, someone really earned is medal for extraordinary AA handling.

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RE: quiet days - 6/23/2008 12:10:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Frank successfully managed to intercept my small FT TF. Though I had the advantage of first sighting his big ships dodged my Long Lancers. Unfortunately...
However, at least I depth charged one of his pesky S-class subs!




AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/13/42

Weather: Thunderstorms

Night Time Surface Combat, near Efate Port Vila at 55,57

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai, Shell hits 25, on fire, heavy damage
DD Maikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Urakaze, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
CA New Orleans, Shell hits 3
CA Astoria, Shell hits 2
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 2
CL Honolulu
DD Hughes, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Cummings
DD Lamson, Shell hits 1


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Efate Port Vila at 55,57

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
DD Maikaze, Shell hits 27, and is sunk
DD Urakaze, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA New Orleans, Shell hits 3
CA Astoria
CA Minneapolis
CL Honolulu
DD Hughes, on fire, heavy damage
DD Cummings
DD Lamson


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Naval bombardment of Luganville, at 53,53

Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 22


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Sub attack at 19,42

Japanese Ships
DD Shigure

Allied Ships
SS S-41, Shell hits 2, on fire


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RE: quiet days - 6/23/2008 12:22:40 PM   
RGIJN


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Status: offline 		just a brief overview of the situation by Mid-June 1942.

Intel states Allied losses as following:

1 CA
1 MSW
1 DMS
7 AP/AK
4 SC

80 a/c

The Japanese hold entire Solomons, Northern PNG coast incl Buna & Dobadura, GG, Rossel, and several Islands in the Hebrides.
PM situation seems resilient for the Allies, he has based quite a few A/C there and some of his convois got thru. Still...

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RE: quiet days - 6/23/2008 1:55:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just a little detail that needs to be mentioned: The little FT TF that got smashed was supposed (according to allied intelligence no reinforcements were on board the sinking ships) to evacuate a unit that got trapped on Efate. This was the first failed attempt of the japanese to sneak-occupie one of my bases. The victory sickness seems to show its first symptoms.

The situation in PM looks pretty god for me in the first view. But I know that against a competent opponent, and as far as I can judge right now this is axectly what I have to deal with, PM is hard to hold. But it will be up to me put a price tag onto this base. And the price is supposed to be very high.

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RE: quiet days - 6/23/2008 2:29:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would not rate it as failed occupation. Of course the evac operation failed indeed. Have that many of these NavGsn units, they need something meaningful to do. Hope I can reveal the exact meaning later in the game.
I´m gonna try to negotiate the "price" for PM with you. Will send major fleet units to you as negotiator...

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