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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 6:26:15 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 6:29:20 AM   
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Chris, the 1st Annual Denver Witp Convention is slated for Sept 21st. 

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 7:49:40 AM   
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Hi all,

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 10:49:15 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 12:44:47 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 2:07:17 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 2:22:49 PM   
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Ti-Ti-Ti,
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Ti-Ti-Ti,
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 3:05:52 PM   
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TTIF! 

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 4:02:03 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 4:45:11 PM   
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Looks like Georgia and Russia are gonna let the balloon go up. Kinda sad I don't think Ossetia has much thats worth killing over.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 4:59:50 PM   
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Hi all,

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Looks like Georgia and Russia are gonna let the balloon go up. Kinda sad I don't think Ossetia has much thats worth killing over.


That's a war that was bound to happen... past 15+ years, when it all first began, were just a lull...


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 6:23:04 PM   
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Hi all,

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Looks like Georgia and Russia are gonna let the balloon go up. Kinda sad I don't think Ossetia has much thats worth killing over.


That's a war that was bound to happen... past 15+ years, when it all first began, were just a lull...


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I always hate to see war break out. Especially when it's over what appears to be a relatively minor territorial dispute.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 6:23:26 PM   
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Oh yeah...and first Saturday tithe!!! 

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 7:16:57 PM   
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Especially when it's over what appears to be a relatively minor territorial dispute.

I think this is a flawed perspective: for you it is just a minor territorial dispute, but the people and nations involved are fighting for what they consider to be their homeland. Not every conflicts boils down to a fight for land mass, natural resources, or industrial capacity - remember Kosovo Polje.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 8:00:10 PM   
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Especially when it's over what appears to be a relatively minor territorial dispute.

I think this is a flawed perspective: for you it is just a minor territorial dispute, but the people and nations involved are fighting for what they consider to be their homeland. Not every conflicts boils down to a fight for land mass, natural resources, or industrial capacity - remember Kosovo Polje.

I'm quite sure the people involved feel that they are talking about their homes, and I don't mean to downplay their situation, but what really happening is that the people that live on this land are becoming pawns in a larger power struggle...and the larger nations involved will not cringe at the thought of spilling those peoples blood to get their way. Cooler heads need to prevail. These things are best settled through arbitration or courts. Such solutions are far better and tend to have a longer lived more lasting impact. Settling it through force of arms usually only lasts until the other side in the conflict rearms and grows a new generation to fight - or god forbid they're wiped out.

I guess my basic point is for all the fighting that goes on in these regional conflicts very little actually gets settled on the battlefield...mostly people just get hurt and families torn apart.



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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 8:27:30 PM   
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Well said. I agree that violence will make the situation only worse. Maybe there's still hope for an internationally accepted referendum...


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 9:20:56 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 9:23:18 PM   
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I just hope that Russia doesn't get any bright ideas after this is over. They ostensibly attacked Georgia "to protect their compatriots" there, and there are Russian minorities in all the other former Soviet republics who are treated badly as well.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 10:06:19 PM   
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Sadly unless Georgia receives a lot of support Russia will prevail. Abkhazia is waiting in the wings. I just pray that some non-military resolution can be found otherwise its all just matches on a gas canister.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 10:28:26 PM   
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It remains to be seen how far this will escalate, and the Russian army isn't as powerful as it would like us to believe. Remember that they couldn't subdue Chechnya.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 11:06:10 PM   
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Yeah, one problem with being my age is that the red horde waiting to crash through Fulda was drummed into me pretty well. Plus I played way to many wargames with the poor 11th Cav just getting crushed.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 11:10:01 PM   
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Heh, yeah...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 11:23:39 PM   
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A month or so ago a couple of Georgian UAVs were shot down. The Russians denied any involvement until the Georgians produced radar imagery of a MiG-29 taking off and flying towards the second UAV. The damning proof was from the UAV which filmed the attack run up until it's destruction. Russia is a bad neighbour. As they re-arm we are going to see more than a few power plays...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 11:24:31 PM   
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Yeah, one problem with being my age is that the red horde waiting to crash through Fulda was drummed into me pretty well. Plus I played way to many wargames with the poor 11th Cav just getting crushed.


Ha! Just a few weeks ago, I was playing with the old SSI game Reforger '88 in an emulator. What fun that was.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 11:26:34 PM   
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My wife is working late tonight and my son is visiting his aunt and grandmother.  Beer and pretzels for dinner - Tithe.

And, even though it's as far from the traditional "beer and pretzels" wargame, WitP is on the evening's agenda. 

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 11:31:10 PM   
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Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle!  Bob has been AWOL from the forums for weeks, and I just learned another useful tip from him in one of the tech support threads. 

Do you guys think that posting a picture of Fluffy might subconsciously cause Bob to log in again? 

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 11:34:49 PM   
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maybe we need to run an honorary naked animal contest

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 11:36:51 PM   
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Good evening, NCSU.

Any big plans for the weekend?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 11:40:02 PM   
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WU mk1 and i are going to dinner with friends tomorrow then I have Monday and tuesday off for vacation.  We are taking our daughter and one of her friends to Carowinds in Charlotte.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/8/2008 11:43:03 PM   
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Fun stuff!  I've not yet been to Carowinds.  Growing up in Baltimore, we frequently went to King's Dominion and Busch Gardens, in Va.  I love roller coasters!

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