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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 12:26:16 AM   
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I did have to sit through talks from both our Governor and a Senator though...two hours of listening to someone speak without saying a thing.  This must be a gift people are born with. 

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 2:11:03 AM   
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TGIF !

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 2:27:00 AM   
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Heh... I'm looking forward to reading that book, given the excellence of Castles of Steel...


Dreadnought is more about politics than anything else...IMO. Castles of Steel was a more interesting read.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 2:27:49 AM   
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I did have to sit through talks from both our Governor and a Senator though...two hours of listening to someone speak without saying a thing.  This must be a gift people are born with. 


"Born" in a very loose definition....they come from petri dishes and test tubes ya know.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 4:18:03 AM   
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Born" in a very loose definition....they come from petri dishes and test tubes ya know.


And remain petri dishes with legs until age 14 or so

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 5:16:35 AM   
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I did have to sit through talks from both our Governor and a Senator though...two hours of listening to someone speak without saying a thing.  This must be a gift people are born with. 


"Born" in a very loose definition....they come from petri dishes and test tubes ya know.

Are you telling me that you're responsible for loosing the plague of politicians on us poor earthlings? Have you no humanity man!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 5:47:59 AM   
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Too buzzed to play a turn, so I thought I'd poke my head in here.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 9:01:49 AM   
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Tithe...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 9:24:11 AM   
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Morning all

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 10:38:07 AM   
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Heh... I'm looking forward to reading that book, given the excellence of Castles of Steel...


Dreadnought is more about politics than anything else...IMO. Castles of Steel was a more interesting read.


I would expect nothing else, given the book's timeframe.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 11:32:01 AM   
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Good morning - Tithe.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 12:24:25 PM   
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Hi all,

Good day!

Quick lunch home inbetween seminars today...


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 12:27:48 PM   
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Hi all,

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And here's John Moffatt. John Moffat joined the Royal Navy in September 1939. In December he moved to a flying school in Belfast. Moffat originally trained on Gloster Gladiator and Blackburn Skuas. Moffat was then transferred to 818 Squadron HMS Ark Royal, based at Gibraltar in January 1941. On 24 May 1941, the German battleship Bismarck sunk the Royal Navy battlecruiser HMS Hood, and HMS Ark Royal was released, as part of Force H, to hunt down Bismarck and sink her. On 26 May 1941 the Bismarck was nearing the safety of the French port Saint-Nazaire. A last ditch attempt to slow the battleship down, so that the British heavy units could catch up with her, was made that night.

At 21:05 hours, Moffat and his observer T/S-Lt.(A) J. D. "Dusty" Miller, flying in the Fairey Swordfish 5C/L9726, crippled the Bismarck with a hit on her port stern. The blow jammed Bismarck's rudder 12° to port. This enabled the Home Fleet and Force H to catch up with and destroy Bismarck.

This pic was taken earlier in the week:







I didn't know that he survived the WWII and that he is still alive!


Takes large cajones to do an attack run in a plane as slow as the Swordfish, especially when the ship was probably going about 1/3 the speed of the plane.

Don't know if this is myth or not but I remember reading that the minimum speed input on the targeting computers (for lack of a better word) on the Bismark's aa directors was sufficiently higher than the Swordfish's loaded speed . . . explaining to an extent the poor performance of Bismarck's aa suite. Sounds plausible I guess. Any ideas?


i remember reading that also. plus from what i have read bismarks aa suite was pretty horrible.


Bismarck (and similary all other non US ships of that time) had extremely poor AA...

BTW, the large caliber AA Bismarck had on board were total waste of space and weight (i.e. instead of dual purpose secondary batteries teherw were standard secondary batteries for naval battle and dedicated large caliber AA batteries)...


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 2:24:06 PM   
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Heh... I'm looking forward to reading that book, given the excellence of Castles of Steel...


Dreadnought is more about politics than anything else...IMO. Castles of Steel was a more interesting read.


Agreed. However, I still liked it.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 2:25:37 PM   
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Good morning all

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 6:21:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Heh... I'm looking forward to reading that book, given the excellence of Castles of Steel...


Dreadnought is more about politics than anything else...IMO. Castles of Steel was a more interesting read.


Agreed. However, I still liked it.


I greatly enjoyed Castles of Steel, and even though Dreadnought is more about the politics of the time, that period is one that I am interested in learning more about. Thread knows I have plenty to learn in that area. I'll be reading it soon.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 6:22:29 PM   
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Dang, with Brother Mynok around more regularly again, I had better get his turn back to him.  He'll know I've been slacking. 

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 10:26:43 PM   
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Hi all,

Evening tithe...


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 10:27:34 PM   
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Eurovision Song Contest... Excuse me while I projectile vomit...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 10:41:14 PM   
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Eurovision Song Contest... Excuse me while I projectile vomit...


Kristian - are you out of your mind - Eurovision song contest!?!?!

Nobody with sane mind watches that (and past 20+ years of that "contest")...




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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 10:48:43 PM   
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Oh, believe me, I'm not watching that garbage... However, somebody in my apartment building is having a very big, and very LOUD, Eurovision "party"...



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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/16/2009 11:45:23 PM   
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Perhaps I can interest you in some industrial strength ear plugs

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/17/2009 3:12:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Heh... I'm looking forward to reading that book, given the excellence of Castles of Steel...


Dreadnought is more about politics than anything else...IMO. Castles of Steel was a more interesting read.


I would expect nothing else, given the book's timeframe.


You'll still find it fascinating. I sort of wish I had read Castles of Steel first now, but c'est la vie.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/17/2009 3:13:49 AM   
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Are you telling me that you're responsible for loosing the plague of politicians on us poor earthlings? Have you no humanity man!


Erm...no. I'm 100% martian.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/17/2009 3:32:52 AM   
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Good evening - Tithe.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/17/2009 3:34:30 AM   
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Good evening, my Martian adversary. 

Tomorrow's my birthday, and one of my presents is several quiet hours alone to "play my little game."    I'll have a turn back to you by dinner time. 

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/17/2009 5:17:43 AM   
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Little game

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/17/2009 8:54:52 AM   
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Morning all!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/17/2009 8:56:03 AM   
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Happy Birthday Mike!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 5/17/2009 9:50:30 AM   
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