warspite1
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ORIGINAL: warspite1 Mmmm let me see now. Sunk is, as you say, sunk i.e. below the waves, at the bottom etc etc. However I never said anything about sunk - I never used the word. You then said "Survived is not sunk". That is correct, I never said she was sunk. Now what did I say? "I did survive the war - sort of....." What does that mean? Well, because of the damage sustained she broke in two, BUT, and here's the BUT, the two halves were used for storge and later for use as barracks facilities. So, as you can see, she did "sort of" survive. Not in one piece, granted, but then I never said she did - I said "sort of..." i.e. she was not sunk, she was not scrapped, hell, she was not even in one piece, but you cannot deny she did survive -"sort of" and put to use. MERCHANT NAVY NOSTALGIA TANKERS "Perhaps the most famous American oil tanker of all time was the 19-knot OHIO, completed in 1940 for Texaco and part of the famous Operation 'Pedestal' convoy which was formed to relieve Malta in 1942.. Though badly damaged by repeated air attacks, the injured vessel managed to safely deliver 14,000 tons of petrol to Allied forces before sinking to the bottom of Malta's Grand Harbour." To survive WW2 the SS Ohio would have had to sail again. She didn't. The use as an oil storage device or a barracks or does not constitute survival of a ship. HMS Breconshire Did the HMS Breconshire "Sort of survive" also? She was refloated and then scrapped in 1954. 06/30/42 21:50 Matla SS King of England escorted by ML-462 proceeded to Marsaxlokk, Malta. King of England pumped 100 tons of fuel oil from Auxiliary Supply Ship HMS Breconshire (9,776 tons) during the night. warspite1 I fear you are taking what was a bit of fun cryptic clue all a little too seriously "To survive WW2 the SS Ohio would have had to sail again" Says who? Is that the law? She wouldn't necessarily have HAD to sail again. She could have been raised and turned straight into a museum ship or a floating barracks for example. By your definition did the battleship Marat not survive then? She too sunk (having had her front end completely torn off) but was used as a floating gun battery during the siege of Leningrad (during which she is referred to as... Marat!). She never (to my knowledge) ever sailed under her own steam again, but remained in service as a stationary training ship (as the Volkhov) until 1953. I said, and I repeat "Ohio survived...sort of" i.e. she was used afterwards - albeit not as a tanker hence "sort of" and not just survived (which she obviously didn't). Did Breconshire survive? No of course not - she was raised 8 years after the war and then scrapped.
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