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RE: Next quiz - 11/8/2011 4:16:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thomas George Lanphier, Jr. (November 27, 1915 – November 26, 1987) was a Colonel and World War II fighter pilot who was first solely, then partially credited with shooting down the plane carrying Admiral Yamamoto, the commander in chief of the Japanese Imperial Navy.


Captain Lanphier’s wingman Leutenant Rex T. Barber shared credit for shooting down Yamamoto.


It was only after Lanphier's death that an organized campaign began to nullify his half-credit for the victory and award full credit to his wingman.

 So either answer is correct or wrong.


Immediately on landing (his plane was so short on fuel that one engine quit during landing rollout) Lanphier again put in a claim for shooting down the bomber, relating that when he turned to engage the escort Zeroes he shot the wing off one, flipped upside down as he circled back towards the bombers, and saw the lead bomber turning a circle below him. He stated he came out of his turn at a right angle to the circling bomber and fired, blowing off its right wing. He stated that he witnessed Barber shoot down another bomber which also crashed in the jungle. Holmes put in a claim for the Betty that crashed into the water, so it was assumed that three bombers had been downed. The fifteen surviving pilots were not debriefed after the mission because this formal interrogation did not exist in the procedures on Guadalcanal at that time, and thus it was never formally established that no one else witnessed Lanphier's claim.

The crash site and body of Admiral Yamamoto were found the next day in the jungle north of the coastal site of the former Australian patrol post and Catholic mission of Buin (which was re-established, after the war, several kilometres inland) by a Japanese search and rescue party, led by Army engineer Lieutenant Hamasuna. According to Hamasuna, Yamamoto had been thrown clear of the plane's wreckage, his white-gloved hand grasping the hilt of his katana, still upright in his seat under a tree. Hamasuna said Yamamoto was instantly recognizable, head dipped down as if deep in thought. A post-mortem of the body disclosed that Yamamoto received two wounds, one to the back of his left shoulder and one to his left lower jaw that exited above his right eye. Whether the admiral initially survived the crash has been a matter of controversy in Japan.



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RE: Next quiz - 11/8/2011 4:42:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		According to wiki (if you can trust wiki) Rex Barber is officially credited with the sole kill of Yamamoto.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Vengeance#Controversy


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RE: Next quiz - 11/9/2011 1:26:48 AM   
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RE: Next quiz - 11/9/2011 7:18:21 PM   
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The New York Times ~ Rex T. Barber pilot who downed Yamamoto dies at 84

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RE: Next quiz - 11/17/2011 9:23:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Following Yamamoto's death, who succeeded him as Commander of the Combined Fleet?

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RE: Next quiz - 11/17/2011 9:46:32 PM   
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RE: Next quiz - 11/17/2011 9:52:21 PM   
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RE: Next quiz - 11/17/2011 9:53:28 PM   
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RE: Next quiz - 11/17/2011 10:30:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Saipan was the resigning issue.
Nagumo might have been in line to take the fleet.  No idea if he ever did.
Don't know the rest.

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RE: Next quiz - 11/18/2011 5:53:00 AM   
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Saipan was the resigning issue.
Nagumo might have been in line to take the fleet.  No idea if he ever did.
Don't know the rest.

Warspite1

The loss of Saipan in the Marianas was indeed the incident that led to Tojo's resignation (although given the way the war was going, this was simply the straw that broke the camel's back!!).

By the time Yamamoto was killed, Nagumo's star had well and truly ceased to rise and (as far as I understand it) he was never considered as a replacement for Yamamoto.


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RE: Next quiz - 11/19/2011 5:01:47 AM   
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Where, and how, did Admiral Chuichi Nagumo (of Kido Butai fame) meet his end?

Didn't he go down with his flagship at the Battle of Leyte Gulf?

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RE: Next quiz - 11/19/2011 7:34:39 AM   
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Where, and how, did Admiral Chuichi Nagumo (of Kido Butai fame) meet his end?

Didn't he go down with his flagship at the Battle of Leyte Gulf?
Warspite1

No, he had dropped off this mortal coil by the time of that battle.

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RE: Next quiz - 11/19/2011 8:22:14 AM   
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Following Yamamoto's death, who succeeded him as Commander of the Combined Fleet?
Warspite1

Difficult to give clues on these - there sort of "you know them or you don't".

Yamamoto's successor lasted less than a year and his surname was similar (one letter different) to one of the six carriers of the Kido Butai.



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RE: Next quiz - 11/19/2011 8:24:00 AM   
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Who succeeded Hideki Tojo as Prime Minister of Japan?
Warspite1

Can't think of a clue for this; it was Kaniaki Koiso. No, I had never heard of him either until reading Rising Sun (Great book!!) In fact I thought Tojo lasted the whole war

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RE: Next quiz - 11/19/2011 8:25:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Where, and how, did Admiral Chuichi Nagumo (of Kido Butai fame) meet his end?

Didn't he go down with his flagship at the Battle of Leyte Gulf?
Warspite1

No, he had dropped off this mortal coil by the time of that battle.
Warspite1

Clue: He died before Leyte and it was not at sea.


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RE: Next quiz - 11/20/2011 5:57:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: paulderynck


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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Where, and how, did Admiral Chuichi Nagumo (of Kido Butai fame) meet his end?

Didn't he go down with his flagship at the Battle of Leyte Gulf?
Warspite1

No, he had dropped off this mortal coil by the time of that battle.
Warspite1

Clue: He died before Leyte and it was not at sea.



Bullet from pistol to the head on Saipan.

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RE: Next quiz - 11/20/2011 8:59:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: paulderynck


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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Where, and how, did Admiral Chuichi Nagumo (of Kido Butai fame) meet his end?

Didn't he go down with his flagship at the Battle of Leyte Gulf?
Warspite1

No, he had dropped off this mortal coil by the time of that battle.
Warspite1

Clue: He died before Leyte and it was not at sea.



Bullet from pistol to the head on Saipan.
Warspite1

Is the correct answer.


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RE: Next quiz - 11/20/2011 9:08:52 AM   
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Following Yamamoto's death, who succeeded him as Commander of the Combined Fleet?
Warspite1

Difficult to give clues on these - there sort of "you know them or you don't".

Yamamoto's successor lasted less than a year and his surname was similar (one letter different) to one of the six carriers of the Kido Butai.


Warspite1

Seems there are no takers so I think I will answer this one now.

I thought there may have been guesses for Toyoda but the correct answer was Admiral Mineichi Koga (Kaga was the carrier). He lasted less than a year before being killed when his aircraft was: shot down by the Americans / lost in a storm and crashed in the sea / survived the crash and landed in the Philippines (but then shot himself)*

* These are the three possibles I have read about. Either way, he died in March 1944 and was succeeded by Soemu Toyoda.



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RE: Next quiz - 11/21/2011 12:49:44 AM   
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RE: Next quiz - 11/21/2011 9:40:27 AM   
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Which two world war combatants are still at war.



Paris Peace Treaties, 1947 negotiated the details of treaties with Italy, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, and Finland.

Germany signed an unconditional surrender bur has not signed a peace treaty.

Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany (or the Two Plus Four Agreement) allowed for the reunification of Germany but was not a peace treaty.



The Treaty of Peace with Japan (commonly known as the Treaty of San Francisco or San Francisco Peace Treaty). Of the 51 participating countries, 48 signed the treaty; Czechoslovakia, Poland and the Soviet Union refused.

Burma and Yugoslavia were invited but did not participate.
North and South Korea were not invited.
Communist China was not invited because of the civil war with Republic of China.

Soviet–Japanese Joint Declaration of 1956 provided for the end of the state of war, and for restoration of diplomatic relations between USSR and Japan.

Sino-Japanese Peace Treaty, commonly known as the Treaty of Taipei ended the war with the Republic of China and Japan.




Germany and everybody technically are still at war.

Burma, Communist China, Yugoslavia, North Korea, South Korea, and Japan technically are still at war.



We discussed this in high school.

Do we still give France $20,000 a year in foreign aid like we did in the 1960’s?

PS. My information may be out of date

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RE: Next quiz - 11/21/2011 12:48:33 PM   
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And seeing as how the nation the USSR doesn't exist, it seems Japan and Russia may always be at war. Which is a problem as they're the ones still arguing over the occupied territories.

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RE: Next quiz - 11/22/2011 9:12:55 AM   
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Is the correct answer. We're all still at war.

And seeing as how the nation the USSR doesn't exist, it seems Japan and Russia may always be at war. Which is a problem as they're the ones still arguing over the occupied territories.


Soviet–Japanese Joint Declaration of 1956

The Joint Declaration did not settle the Kuril Islands territorial dispute between Japan and the Soviet Union, whose resolution was postponed until the conclusion of a permanent peace treaty. However, Article 9 of the Joint Declaration stated: "The U.S.S.R. and Japan have agreed to continue, after the establishment of normal diplomatic relations between them, negotiations for the conclusion of a peace treaty. Hereby, the U.S.S.R., in response to the desires of Japan and taking into consideration the interest of the Japanese state, agrees to hand over to Japan the Habomai and the Shikotan Islands, provided that the actual changing over to Japan of these islands will be carried out after the conclusion of a peace treaty".

On November 14, 2004, the head of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Sergei Lavrov along with the former President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, have visited Japan. Lavrov said that Russia as a state-successor of the Soviet Union recognizes the Declaration in 1956, and is ready to have territorial talks with Japan on its basis.


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RE: Next quiz - 12/4/2011 8:34:25 PM   
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RE: Next quiz - 12/4/2011 8:42:31 PM   
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What was the largest diameter deck gun used on a submarine?


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Was it the 8-inchers of Surcouf.

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RE: Next quiz - 12/5/2011 12:13:39 AM   
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What was the largest diameter deck gun used on a submarine?


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Was it the 8-inchers of Surcouf.



Nope

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RE: Next quiz - 12/5/2011 1:06:04 AM   
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RE: Next quiz - 12/5/2011 1:10:32 AM   
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Is this WW2 or just 'in general'?

Since it is a WWII quiz all questions are asumed to be about WWII unless the question states otherwise.

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RE: Next quiz - 12/5/2011 6:56:53 AM   
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What was the largest diameter deck gun used on a submarine?


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Was it the 8-inchers of Surcouf.



Nope
Warspite1

Wow! Bigger than 8-inch. I trust you will post a picture with the answer. This is going to be one top-heavy mother


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RE: Next quiz - 12/5/2011 11:02:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		1st clue: 3 were built between 1916 and 1919 and they were in commission between 1920 and 1932.

So they are realy neither World War I nor World War II.




The picture is from the London Science Museum.

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RE: Next quiz - 12/5/2011 11:15:57 AM   
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