Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Orm

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ORIGINAL: Froonp

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ORIGINAL: peskpesk
If I get it right, so far these are the solutions in the forum:

1) 4 roll for the first 2 cities taken and 3 for the next 2 and then 2 for the remainder.
2) US entry to only apply to the original Chinese cities
3) Halving the US Entry cost (to 2)

I think all of the proposed fixed for US entry regarding Chinese cities are all good, interesting and solves the problem, all with there own drawbacks and advantages. My vote goes for option 3, since it’s these easiest to program.

In a dream world I would to see there US Entry cost for Chinese cities to be low for cites close to the border/cost and higher the more inland the Japanese gets. And of course higher if its a factory hex. I don’t have any good solution for it, just a basic one.

Type of city: US Entry cost

Normal city: 2
Factory city: 3
Double factory city: 4

I like 1), I like 3), and I like your last proposal, let's call it 4).
I don't like 2).

I think that it is time to ask if there is enough proposals and try to come to an consensus and decide what to recommend to Steve.

Personally I like proposal 4 best.

It can also be written as this in the US entry actions:

Japan occupies Chinese city - 2*
Notes:
* +1 for each factory in the hex


-Orm

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

There are 4 proposals here. let's let each person have 4 votes that they can allocate however they like. So if two of them appeal to you, you can cast 2 votes for each of them. But if one is your overwhelming favorite, cast all 4 of your votes for that one.

To repeat, the choices for the US Entry roll when Japan occupies a Chinese city are:
1) US Entry roll is 4 for the first 2 cities taken, 3 for the next 2 cities, and then 2 for the remaining cities.
2) US entry rol is 4 but only applies to the original (not additional) Chinese cities.
3) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities.
4) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities with the addiition of +1 for each factory in the city/hex.

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ORIGINAL: Orm

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

There are 4 proposals here. let's let each person have 4 votes that they can allocate however they like. So if two of them appeal to you, you can cast 2 votes for each of them. But if one is your overwhelming favorite, cast all 4 of your votes for that one.

To repeat, the choices for the US Entry roll when Japan occupies a Chinese city are:
1) US Entry roll is 4 for the first 2 cities taken, 3 for the next 2 cities, and then 2 for the remaining cities.
2) US entry rol is 4 but only applies to the original (not additional) Chinese cities.
3) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities.
4) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities with the addiition of +1 for each factory in the city/hex.

#4 -> 4 votes.

I prefer 4 over 1 primarily because you do not have to remember how many cities already captured. And of course playtesting is required but it has to start somewhere. I also doubt there can be enough testing on this before release.

-Orm

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
There are 4 proposals here. let's let each person have 4 votes that they can allocate however they like. So if two of them appeal to you, you can cast 2 votes for each of them. But if one is your overwhelming favorite, cast all 4 of your votes for that one.

To repeat, the choices for the US Entry roll when Japan occupies a Chinese city are:
1) US Entry roll is 4 for the first 2 cities taken, 3 for the next 2 cities, and then 2 for the remaining cities.
2) US entry rol is 4 but only applies to the original (not additional) Chinese cities.
3) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities.
4) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities with the addiition of +1 for each factory in the city/hex.

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ORIGINAL: sajbalk

There are more cities in China now, but there are no additional factory stacks. Thus, I would vote for USE effect per city of +2 with +1 for any printed factory stack. This is important, even if it is very very unlikely that China may build factories.

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4) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities with the addiition of +1 for each factory in the city/hex.

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ORIGINAL: Orm

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

There are 4 proposals here. let's let each person have 4 votes that they can allocate however they like. So if two of them appeal to you, you can cast 2 votes for each of them. But if one is your overwhelming favorite, cast all 4 of your votes for that one.

To repeat, the choices for the US Entry roll when Japan occupies a Chinese city are:
1) US Entry roll is 4 for the first 2 cities taken, 3 for the next 2 cities, and then 2 for the remaining cities.
2) US entry rol is 4 but only applies to the original (not additional) Chinese cities.
3) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities.
4) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities with the addiition of +1 for each factory in the city/hex.

#4 -> 4 votes.

I prefer 4 over 1 primarily because you do not have to remember how many cities already captured. And of course playtesting is required but it has to start somewhere. I also doubt there can be enough testing on this before release.

-Orm

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

I'll leave the voting open for a couple more days.

Right now we have (including my 4 for #4):

#1 - 5 votes
#2 - 4 votes
#3 - 7 votes
#4 - 32 votes

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Yuck

Could options 3+4 be combined as an if-then? If not, 2 votes for each.

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ORIGINAL: Edfactor
and 1 vote for the hanging piece of chad.

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ORIGINAL: Froonp

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ORIGINAL: Edfactor
and 1 vote for the hanging piece of chad.

What is the hanging piece of chad ?

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ORIGINAL: Edfactor
and 1 vote for the hanging piece of chad.

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ORIGINAL: cockney

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ORIGINAL: Edfactor
and 1 vote for the hanging piece of chad.

What is the hanging piece of chad ?

 
what is Floridian election counting?

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ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

First of all...I hope you...Mr. OKeets are a better programer than political scientist. I love WiF and hope this computer game comes to fruition...maybe you are doing your programing job very well and dont have time to spend on current events. To set the record straight on the 2000 election...it was Al Gore who tried to steal the election. The vote count was very close...Al Gore tried to cherry pick three heavily Democrat counties here in south Florida to see if he could mine for enough votes to over-turn the Florida election results, get the Florida electoral votes, and make himself president. Those counties (with elected Democrat Supervisor of Elections and their Democrat staff) went through election ballots that were the old computer punch card system type where the voter takes a punch card pen to punch out a perferated rectangular hole...the hole is marked by the voter selecting their choice by putting the pen in the hole besides their candidate. Some of these cards were punched too often, and many still had the perferated rectangle still hanging. it was a spectacle to see the staff and elected officials take the cards, look at each one and try to decide what the voters intent was. Months after this crazy spectacle newspapers (New York Times, St. Pete Times, and just about every liberal media) went through all the votes in these counties on their own time and dime and came to the conclusion that George W Bush won Florida. Period. And that is without looking for more votes in heavily Republican counties. Some leftists still cant get over it. I know Hawaii is a leftist state, but Mr. OKeets...I suggest you stop wasting your precious time on something you either no little about, or cant help yourself but to spew propaganda. Stick to what you know best, and lets get this product out for Christmas or whatever new date you have come up with. Get to work.

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ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

First of all...I hope you...Mr. OKeets are a better programer than political scientist. I love WiF and hope this computer game comes to fruition...maybe you are doing your programing job very well and dont have time to spend on current events. To set the record straight on the 2000 election...it was Al Gore who tried to steal the election. The vote count was very close...Al Gore tried to cherry pick three heavily Democrat counties here in south Florida to see if he could mine for enough votes to over-turn the Florida election results, get the Florida electoral votes, and make himself president. Those counties (with elected Democrat Supervisor of Elections and their Democrat staff) went through election ballots that were the old computer punch card system type where the voter takes a punch card pen to punch out a perferated rectangular hole...the hole is marked by the voter selecting their choice by putting the pen in the hole besides their candidate. Some of these cards were punched too often, and many still had the perferated rectangle still hanging. it was a spectacle to see the staff and elected officials take the cards, look at each one and try to decide what the voters intent was. Months after this crazy spectacle newspapers (New York Times, St. Pete Times, and just about every liberal media) went through all the votes in these counties on their own time and dime and came to the conclusion that George W Bush won Florida. Period. And that is without looking for more votes in heavily Republican counties. Some leftists still cant get over it. I know Hawaii is a leftist state, but Mr. OKeets...I suggest you stop wasting your precious time on something you either no little about, or cant help yourself but to spew propaganda. Stick to what you know best, and lets get this product out for Christmas or whatever new date you have come up with. Get to work.