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RE: Beta testers, please - 7/27/2008 5:02:42 PM   
cpdeyoung


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Status: offline 		Marc,

I am not intending to sell this program. I did not realize yours was commercial.

On July 24th, 2008 you wrote :

quote:

You know it may not be a bad idea and combine the 2. I bet that would be a kick butt thing...what say you


I replied that I would put a link to your page out there. I did not think this application was anything like yours. I wanted something to launch with setup, and I wanted a scenario list rather than the slower clicking in the JTCS application. I saw yours as a nice PDF view of the scenarios. I never saw your Talonsoft submissions, and all work is my own. I have no way of knowing what you were thinking in 1999.

I wrote what I wanted to write for my use, and thought it would be fun to give it to all these folks. I intend to make it available at no charge. The JTCS community can use it or not.

Earlier you wrote :

quote:

not a prob...whatever you want to do... i ain't one like some people I know in this business that goes ape over crap.


I think this was the best way to deal with it.

I enclose a snapshot of the new version without any link to your page.

Yours in the spirit of the JTCS community,

Chuck






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RE: Beta testers, please - 7/27/2008 5:23:45 PM   
cpdeyoung


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Status: offline 		To Marc, and the community,

As I have stated my program uses the .scn files as input. It does not use any third party database. My beta testers have received a 185KB executable and in current version a DLL for the web access. My complexity index is a reflection of the numbers of lines dealing with units on board and reinforcements, all other data is as shown in my pathetic interpretation of the .scn files.

Marc, I have never even looked at your product internals. I did request you to send your pdf product to me, as you invited us to do, and I enclose a snap of the files you sent me. There is nothing but pdf files, and Marc I assure you I do not have a clue how to extract a "database" from these. My program reads the .scn files dynamically. No use of your hard work, Marc. Just a misunderstanding.

Your work is yours, and I would not think of using it without permission.

Chuck




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RE: Beta testers, please - 7/27/2008 5:26:18 PM   
marcbarker


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Status: offline 		combining the two is one thing but actually giving the other a push button is another with 0 credit is another. You had no collaboration with me, You talked about nothing no feddback, no anything, That is what I am torqued about. It is not commercial. But I have still copywrited it and trademarking yjr Following Names, WWII Scenario Viewer, SV, Order of Battle Viewer, Battle Card Viewer, Scenario Battle Card, Battle Area Viewer, BAV, OOBV, BCV, Smart Card Viewer, SCV, Linked Scenario Viewer for Games,

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RE: Beta testers, please - 7/27/2008 5:27:55 PM   
marcbarker


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Status: offline 		Do you have an Attorney? I see you live in SC, so therefore you are familiar technology infringement laws? Curious

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RE: Beta testers, please - 7/27/2008 5:41:41 PM   
marcbarker


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Status: offline 		Lets start Fresh OK..No Harm No Foul...Hey Chuck! I have no ill feelings towards you at all.... This struck me in a very bad way. I had 2 programs in previous years "stolen". It struck a very bad cord is all. My apologies. All I ask is that if we use eithers stuff, we collabrate and answer emails. Fair enough?

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RE: Beta testers, please - 7/27/2008 6:07:24 PM   
cpdeyoung


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Status: offline 		Good deal, lets get back to work on our respective programs for this great community.

I suggest we go our own separate ways, and I can't wait to see how your fine contribution develops.

Thanks for your efforts, you are an enthuastic gamer. Have fun.

Chuck

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RE: Beta testers, please - 7/27/2008 6:13:24 PM   
junk2drive


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Status: offline 		Good to see. Thanks to both of you.

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RE: Beta testers, please - 7/27/2008 6:49:36 PM   
marcbarker


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Status: offline 		by the way the 1st release of rising sun will be released hopefully next week. The biggest issue was not the links, it is those maps. I do have all the bootcamp and oobs working great. The Battle Cards look pretty good.

I repeat not the dynamic oob stuff. I can only work on one thing at a tim. Chuck, Your program does look cool can you hook into access database? if so there is a ton of info you can Glean. My database is up to over 100mg now. too huge to zip or such but when it is complete. It will be free for all and not password protected just give me a credit to whoever gets it and uses it. It will not be used for individual gain but will gladly give it to matrix if they want it to enhance an update or such no strings attached. I just want to give back is all and again my apologies. The baby programmer inside me came out. Sorry again fellas.

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RE: Beta testers, please - 8/7/2008 4:51:49 PM   
cpdeyoung


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Status: offline 		Beta testing is completed, and Jason is looking over the program to see if it is ready for release. Here is a picture of the program in its current state. I can think of more to do with this, but I want to get a version out in the community so I can get more good ideas.

Chuck





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RE: Beta testers, please - 8/7/2008 7:42:00 PM   
jchastain


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Status: offline 		doh. never mind. :-)

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RE: Beta testers, please - 8/7/2008 11:07:08 PM   
Frido1207

 

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Status: offline 		Hi Chuck,
your screenie looks super cool (or über cool  ).
Would be a fantastic tool imo.
As I am a totally PC illiterate, I can´t & don´t want to make suggestions.
But you´re asking for ideas.
I noticed, that the scenario described in your screenie, is preferably played by PBEM.
So I would ask, if it would possible to implement a feature (without too much work & circumstances), that differences the scenarios, about to play preferably against the AI, or against a human opponent. (maybe in your "Sort Order" section)
But again & anyway: this looks awesome.

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RE: Beta testers, please - 8/7/2008 11:56:29 PM   
cpdeyoung


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Status: offline 		Dear th1207,

That is a good idea, indeed. The "Best played as" information is not a structured piece of data, but is usually in the scenario description section. To the degree I can recognise it I could "filter" on various indicators. I have not yet heard from Jason about releasing the App, so I will try and see what I can do.

Another idea I have come up with has to do with the AAR I posted on this very scenario. How much desire is there for a "Notes" field which could hold AAR, Win/Loss, strategy and tactics notes etc. This would involve a data file on your disk drive which this program, ScnPick, would be aware of. I would really like this idea, but it would involve some effort. How many would like this?

Keep these great ideas flowing.

Thanks,

Chuck

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RE: Beta testers, please - 8/8/2008 1:37:35 AM   
cpdeyoung


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Status: offline 		Folks,

Because of the freeform "Best played" information I have come up with a choice of displaying the title, or a best attempt at the designers suggestion of play. Here is what a "Best played" list looks like.

Chuck




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RE: Beta testers, please - 8/8/2008 3:47:31 AM   
big dawg


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Status: offline 		Chuck,

You are quick to resolve problems!  I like the new addition too. 

What we need are naked women!! 


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RE: Beta testers, please - 8/8/2008 4:32:43 AM   
cpdeyoung


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Status: offline 		Big Dawg,

For that you will have to build a scenario involving an intercept of the 34th Women's Mortar Batallion, on their way from Maikop to Krimskaya.

Chuck

(Thanks to Willi Heinrich)

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RE: Beta testers, please - 8/8/2008 5:21:46 PM   
cpdeyoung


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Status: offline 		Folks,

The ScnPick program has been released in the "Mods and Scenarios" folder.

Chuck

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