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RE: GPW v6a - 9/13/2008 11:51:24 AM   
mavnb

 

Posts: 93
Joined: 8/26/2000
From: bellefeuille
Status: offline 		Greetings all,

Getting back to all the post
and the mess we had. Archduke agree with me so why not
a "fix" set? You are Europe so you do first. Archduke to
Rufus (or viceversa) and then you send to me in Canada so I do in in my evening while you sleep and the next day Stavka
as a completed file. If one Europe players is unable to play he says it and the other Europe player does it. Voila!

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RE: GPW v6a - 9/13/2008 12:50:37 PM   
RufusTFirefly

 

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Status: offline 		Have done my turn again and named file like this : Russia_29_June_1941_wdone_s_swdone_nwdone.pt2

This file I will send to Mehring now. Have checked. All fronts (nw, w, sw, and Crimea) have moved now. So, this turn should be finished now. If not, it is up to Stavka to send to missing player.

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Post #: 122
RE: GPW v6a - 9/13/2008 1:13:55 PM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		Sorry to have to quote myself, and only from the penultimate post but "Before anyone starts blaming the system we're using for this, I am reminded of a time zigzig did almost the exact same in our WaW game. S^$t happens, so let's deal with it."

Well, one time zigzag sent me the file from his previous turn and if I hadn't noticed we would have lost a turn.

Read a few game threads and it happens a bit "X, you sent me the wrong file."
"Oh, sorry, I'll send again tonight"
You see it all the time.

But some are siezing on every hickup which is not necessarily specific to this system, to get rid of this system. Why?


The rigid systems advocated do not eliminate the possibility of this problem happening, so no gain there.

Rigid systems are organically slow and therefore will never speed up, so no gain there.

A lesson fron history, and human behaviour in general. Rigid systems are often a response to insecurity when confronted by something new and/or challenging. Hmmm.

We are experiencing problems with this new system but all the problems have a solution. When solved, it will be fast. It will make an otherwise unplayably long campaign playable.
In fact, this flexible system makes the mistake EASIER to remedy than if it happened in a rigid system. We do not have to re-do all the turns, as someone suggested, just the missing one from the latest file- West Front's file. Already it's faster.

I have not seen one single reasoned argument in favour of reverting to a rigid system, just some understandable confusion among some players who are confronted by something new which recently has changed almost every day as it takes shape, and to make matters worse, expressed in a foreign language.

You have my sympathies! But if such players were to reverse that complaining energy into trying to make this work, it will work and we will never look back.

No retreat! Advance to flexible turn sequences!

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RE: GPW v6a - 9/13/2008 1:32:29 PM   
RufusTFirefly

 

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Status: offline 		I agree with Mehring that a flexible system is quicker and when we will get used to it this system will even be better to handle. But it needs communication. So, please use this forum to tell whats happening.

I dont know why west-front turn was lost, which caused some confusion. But renaming the file after the turn is done in the way Mehring has suggested and posting a message of doing and sending the turn will keep anyone informed about the currnet state of the game and hopefully easily point out, where something goes wrong. So we can see how to redo the last step before the mistake and bring all on its way again.

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RE: GPW v6a - 9/13/2008 3:19:22 PM   
mavnb

 

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From: bellefeuille
Status: offline 		TO ALL:

Ok but I should be the last one to play because
I am in Canada and I rarely can post during your afternoon
evening because of my work so I get a little mixed up
in all the talk going on. Is it ok? Facing pc each night anyway.

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Post #: 125
RE: GPW v6a - 9/13/2008 4:20:15 PM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		All you need to do is follow the proceedure-

Red= stop Green= go
 
1. Are your orders finalised?
No- wait for, or finalise orders with HQ if you have any coments ,disagreements etc. Yes, go to 2 
 
2. Do you have the current file? Check forum posts against last file received.
No? That probably means someeone is currently executing their orders, but maybe they forgot to send the file or it didn't arrive. Email last player to post if in doubt. 
Yes, Go! Post in the forum thread you are executing orders. Then send the finished game file to everyone else.
 
So simple, so fast. We're not waiting for anyone but the last player, that's because we have to. If you're the last player, we'll wait.
 
 

< Message edited by Mehring -- 9/13/2008 9:15:43 PM >

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RE: GPW v6a - 9/14/2008 2:03:51 PM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		File still not arrived from RufusT...

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RE: GPW v6a - 9/14/2008 4:51:53 PM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		...got it now, will finish turn and pass to british exil ASAP later this evening.

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RE: GPW v6a - 9/14/2008 5:13:24 PM   
RufusTFirefly

 

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Status: offline 		Sorry, guys. Send the file yesterday, but I did not arrive.
Next time I will send from both mail-accounts I have, so one of should do (hopefully).

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Post #: 129
RE: GPW v6a - 9/15/2008 9:45:59 AM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		File to british exil. STAVKA report to all players.

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RE: GPW v6a - 9/17/2008 7:50:20 PM   
british exil


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Status: offline 		Sent turn to STAVKA.

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RE: GPW v6a - 9/17/2008 8:41:04 PM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		Got it, Will start last test turn tomorrow.

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RE: GPW v6a - 9/17/2008 9:00:08 PM   
RufusTFirefly

 

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Status: offline 		Uuups, the final test. So behave boys, or we will get a bad report and will not move to next class.

So, obey orders from Stavka, do turns quick and be nice and polite to the old man who tells us what to do.

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Post #: 133
RE: GPW v6a - 9/17/2008 9:39:55 PM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		Jeez, this guy's looking for promotion.

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Post #: 134
West front done - 9/18/2008 8:27:44 PM   
RufusTFirefly

 

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Status: offline 		West front turn done and send. Report to Stavka follows later.

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Post #: 135
RE: West front done - 9/18/2008 8:40:10 PM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		West Front not done because you have no orders. This is a repeat of last turn. Why is this happening?

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RE: West front done - 9/18/2008 9:20:16 PM   
Ccr

 

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Joined: 4/22/2008
From: UK
Status: offline 		Oh joy!

I am awaiting orders from STAVKA (I imagine this is still mehring) for SW front. I imagine these will be coming v. late tonight or tomorrow.

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Post #: 137
RE: West front done - 9/18/2008 10:28:01 PM   
TheArchduke


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Status: offline 		Awaiting orders.:)

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RE: West front done - 9/18/2008 10:38:40 PM   
RufusTFirefly

 

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Status: offline 		@Mehring: Just wrote a mail to tell, why I have done moves.

But here for all: I misunderstood the message from Mehring and thought we should finalize the orders given last time. It was not possible to move all units to the positions given in the orders, because the way was too long. So some orders still remained to be finalized.

Last time we got a file with orders, then the pt2-file. This time we got pt2-file, no orders, but this:
"Please try to finish and finalise your orders with the Front by tomorrow evening."

So, this is what I did. I finalized the orders. Please, next time say clearly that orders will follow. And please keep in mind that we might not be able to execute orders tomorrow when we get them tomorrow.

So, when you ask us to do turns tomorrow I understood we should speed up and have only one day for doing turns. I havnt got the idea that you expect us to do turns til tomorrow when we get orders not before tomorrow.

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Post #: 139
RE: West front done - 9/18/2008 11:45:59 PM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		OK, thanks, I can see the logic to what you've done. I didn't realise this was so much a language problem. What I meant by finalise orders-

From post #125 above-

"All you need to do is follow the proceedure-

Red= stop Green= go 1. Are your orders finalised?
No- wait for, or finalise orders with HQ if you have any coments ,disagreements etc. Yes, go to 2 
 
By finalise I mean get their details agreed between Front and HQ so they are ready to execute.

No worries.

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Post #: 140
RE: West front done - 9/19/2008 1:09:50 AM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		South and South-West orders are out, the rest to follow in the morning.

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Post #: 141
RE: West front done - 9/19/2008 11:09:40 AM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		All orders sent.

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RE: West front done - 9/19/2008 11:36:58 AM   
TheArchduke


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Status: offline 		NW Front has answered.

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Post #: 143
RE: West front done - 9/19/2008 3:05:57 PM   
TheArchduke


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Status: offline 		Final orders acknowledged and accepted, I am ready to make my turn anytime.

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Post #: 144
RE: West front done - 9/19/2008 3:52:28 PM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		Post here that you're executing your orders, then nobody else can do theirs without receiving your file.

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Post #: 145
RE: West front done - 9/19/2008 4:05:46 PM   
TheArchduke


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Status: offline 		Executed and sent.

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RE: West front done - 9/19/2008 5:11:16 PM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		Excellent. Just post here before executing next time, then the procedure will be error proof :-P

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Post #: 147
RE: West front done - 9/19/2008 5:29:51 PM   
Ccr

 

Posts: 179
Joined: 4/22/2008
From: UK
Status: offline 		SW turn executing now

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Post #: 148
RE: West front done - 9/19/2008 6:33:45 PM   
Ccr

 

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From: UK
Status: offline 		SW turn now done. Nothing of note to report to STAVKA

email sent to all sov players

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Post #: 149
RE: West front done - 9/19/2008 6:45:19 PM   
Mehring

 

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Status: offline 		Nice, fingers Xed we can finish all Front moves in a day...

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