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I love this game - 9/3/2008 2:15:34 AM

Mad Cow

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I'm a bit late onto this one, but I'm a long time civil war buff and i just love the flavor of this game. can't wait to be good enough to play pbem. :)

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RE: I love this game - 9/3/2008 2:30:18 AM

paullus99

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From a playability standpoint - top notch

Does it give the player a real flavor of the Civil War - absolutely

Definitive Strategic Civil War Game - quite possibly

You know a game is good when you look at the clock, realize you've been playing for six straight hours and say - "ah, just one more turn!"

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RE: I love this game - 9/3/2008 3:55:23 AM

Harvey Birdman

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quote:

I love this game

Me too.

I'm more of a Suz Tzu, John Boyd and Bill Lind manuever warfare buff. It's a nice Napoleonic warfare with a civil war twist.

But the AI sucks as much as Fremont as TC.

I think they did a great job with showing the importance of calvary at the strategic level. The movement and supply rules show the importance of railroads during the civil war.

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RE: I love this game - 9/3/2008 7:22:34 PM

Ike1947

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The reason God created other humans to be our opponents in all of these games, gentlemen, is because ... ready? ... "... the AI sucks as much as Fremont as TC."

Best AI can be is training in game rules, interface use, game mechanics compared with our individual notions of strategic and/or tactical maneuvers and "tricks", how to implement what we think we know of military tactics, etc using this particular game engine, and how long we can "pause" a game - or how long for some phase to run as a "black box" so that we can run to get a cup of coffee or go potty before it's finished.� Once we've accomplished our training mission with the AI, then we seek out our live opponents.� For the above-recited reason plus the thrill of losing or winning against someone who is as real as we are.� Yep; that's it.

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RE: I love this game - 9/3/2008 8:54:55 PM

tran505

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Ditto ditto. I am in my third month of game-lock. I think it was Howard Hughes who was rumored to sit in his penthouse watching "Ice Station Zebra" for months at a time -- neither bathing nor going out into the world. That may be my future with this one someday!

I am also not as down on the AI as some -- especially when playing as the North. Fact is that the South can get away with more passive play, and the AI does a respectable job (with the exception of the Trans-Missisippi where I think it needs some help). If you don't have enough challenge, then simply turn up the difficulty level until you set your hair on fire and run screaming out of the room.

Then you know you are truly having fun.

- P

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RE: I love this game - 9/5/2008 3:18:42 AM

John Neal

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Agreed, great game.

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RE: I love this game - 9/5/2008 5:22:41 AM

Doc o War

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agreed- this game has all the basics there for it- and the designers are reactive to the changing issues as they occure, and are gracious enough to let all of us suggest ideas that blend into the fabric of the entire process.
All in all a very hopeful beginning- congrats on the launch of a very good game. Let us hope that a year from now when we are playing the final version of this thing- with all patches patched and corrected rules in place and et all. That we will be glad we stayed with this one- because it has such promise.

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RE: I love this game - 9/13/2008 7:13:11 AM

Texican

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I agree this is a great game. The AI is challenging and the game mechanics are simple and fluid.

I went ahead and added some music files from a couple of Civil War films and this makes the background music even better.

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