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RE: it goes on... - 2/13/2009 11:42:29 PM   
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Thanks for the screenshots!

Lovely raid also

Go for Ceylon. Place some Bettys on naval search + gauntlet of subs. Create a chokepoint so that no ship enters or leave Indian ocean.

Do you have any idea about the numbers of ships inside Karachi port? Raiding harbour combined with multiple land based fighter sweeps (to neutralize the possible RAF danger) would be nice to bag some easy points.


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RE: it goes on... - 2/14/2009 9:09:19 AM   
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Bombing Karachi could be very dangerous for the air crews.  With the mass of reinforcements, including AA & BF, SEAC must have received in the two-three months (or is it more already ?), you could expect a blood bath.

Castor, I meant CVs as escorts on the most important convoys, at least for the last leg.  And CVEs to hunt your subs, as the latter proved very useful eyes.  I was not clear, sorry.

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RE: it goes on... - 2/14/2009 12:00:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

Bombing Karachi could be very dangerous for the air crews.  With the mass of reinforcements, including AA & BF, SEAC must have received in the two-three months (or is it more already ?), you could expect a blood bath.


Hmm true true. But one or two fast battlecruiser+cruiser task force could do the trick (with heavy float plane reconing trick). Don't recall how severe were RN losses during the Indian campaign and what portion of the fleet is currently situated in Karachi. It's never too bad to sink some 10-15 merchant ships + whatever you can find in port.

Castor troy, can you post the current ship losses?

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RE: it goes on... - 2/14/2009 2:59:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Zond



Thanks for the screenshots!

Lovely raid also

Go for Ceylon. Place some Bettys on naval search + gauntlet of subs. Create a chokepoint so that no ship enters or leave Indian ocean.

Do you have any idea about the numbers of ships inside Karachi port? Raiding harbour combined with multiple land based fighter sweeps (to neutralize the possible RAF danger) would be nice to bag some easy points.




There are only a couple of ships at Karachi, Miller usually moves them out quickly as soon as they arrive. There are enough enemy aircraft that attacking it isnīt really worth it, I mean, my losses wouldnīt worth it. Would need to transfer 500 fighters/bombers into the Karachi area and thatīs not possible at the moment.

But Ceylon stays on my list, but time is running out for the Japanese Empire, weīre nearly entering 43!

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RE: it goes on... - 2/14/2009 3:01:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

Bombing Karachi could be very dangerous for the air crews.  With the mass of reinforcements, including AA & BF, SEAC must have received in the two-three months (or is it more already ?), you could expect a blood bath.

Castor, I meant CVs as escorts on the most important convoys, at least for the last leg.  And CVEs to hunt your subs, as the latter proved very useful eyes.  I was not clear, sorry.



youīre correct, bombing Karachi below 26.000ft isnīt possible in Nikmod, you would wreck hundreds of bombers in a couple of turns.

The biggest problem for Miller will be the number of CVs available at the moment, guess he used all of his carriers for his offensive operations. And everything below 250 aircraft would be in real danger of being sunk while doing not enough damage.

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RE: it goes on... - 2/14/2009 3:04:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Zond


quote:

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

Bombing Karachi could be very dangerous for the air crews.  With the mass of reinforcements, including AA & BF, SEAC must have received in the two-three months (or is it more already ?), you could expect a blood bath.


Hmm true true. But one or two fast battlecruiser+cruiser task force could do the trick (with heavy float plane reconing trick). Don't recall how severe were RN losses during the Indian campaign and what portion of the fleet is currently situated in Karachi. It's never too bad to sink some 10-15 merchant ships + whatever you can find in port.

Castor troy, can you post the current ship losses?



There was no RN loss other than 4!!! PT boats during my attack on India! Miller immediately withdrew his ships. The port is empty every couple of days so moving Kongo class BBs up to India wouldnīt even be worth the fuel. And my cruisers arenīt 1000lb bomb prove so all in all itīs too much risk for no or not much to gain.

If I donīt forget to take the screens next turn I will post the most important ship losses.


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RE: it goes on... - 2/14/2009 4:18:41 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/13/42

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TF 1057 encounters mine field at Lautem (33,78)

Allied Ships
MSW Maryborough
MSW Goulburn
MSW Burnie
MSW Poole
MSW Bundaberg

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Day Air attack on Pamakasan , at 24,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 85
B5N Kate x 5
G3M Nell x 54
G4M1 Betty x 63
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 34
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 54

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

I guess in a couple of months I will have 2/3 of my airforce doing training runs every day as my daitais will be "one day wonders"...



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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 212


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 21 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
690 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Port hits 5
Port supply hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 215
B5N Kate x 12
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 117

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 176

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 2
A-20B Boston x 31


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 33rd Division, at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 92
Wellington III x 68


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged
Wellington III: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
318 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

Allied bombers flying ground attacks at 9 hexes range...

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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 219074 troops, 2704 guns, 23 vehicles, Assault Value = 4226

Defending force 89267 troops, 128 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3027

Japanese max assault: 4285 - adjusted assault: 1933

Allied max defense: 2886 - adjusted defense: 2974

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)


Japanese ground losses:
9064 casualties reported
Guns lost 186
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
1930 casualties reported
Guns lost 32

looks like the dice rolls went very well for the Chinese. Not that Iīm surprised that they get a good adjusted av as they are sitting behind level 9 forts, but the losses on my side are rather amazing... And hey, we didnīt even knock down a fort level with 300 combat engineers in the hex. Sian will fall, and it wonīt take long...

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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8420 troops, 289 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1528

Defending force 23858 troops, 162 guns, 204 vehicles, Assault Value = 355



Allied ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16049 troops, 202 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3445

Defending force 221691 troops, 761 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5859



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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 66903 troops, 827 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 1605

Defending force 69316 troops, 388 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1338

Allied max assault: 1512 - adjusted assault: 919

Japanese max defense: 1010 - adjusted defense: 1049

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
2131 casualties reported
Guns lost 54
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1092 casualties reported
Guns lost 40
Vehicles lost 11

itīs ridicoulos. Iīm defending in a wooden hex and my av gets adjusted down... no, my troops are not out of supply. Once again we take twice the losses than the attacker... I donīt get it... those divisions I have there are all 90+ experienced, something the Allied divs surely arenīt...

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RE: it goes on... - 2/14/2009 4:23:19 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/14/42

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TF 90 encounters mine field at Lautem (33,78)

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko, Mine hits 1
DD Yukikaze, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

of course we hit mines when we enter Lautern...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Chikuma
CA Chokai
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CA Ashigara
CA Kinugasa
DD Kagero
DD Arashi
DD Oshio
DD Yamakaze
DD Hatsuharu
DD Shirakumo
DD Isonami
DD Uranami
DD Shikinami
DD Kisaragi
DD Hakaze
DD Yakaze

Allied Ships
AK Don Jose, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

wth? Iīve always thought that the TFs with the lowest TF number would be the ones that attack first? Well, I had three surface combat TFs with a lower number than this bombardment TF but it didnīt work as planned... at least we sink a supply AK...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Chikuma
CA Chokai
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CA Ashigara
CA Kinugasa
DD Kagero
DD Arashi
DD Oshio, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Yamakaze
DD Hatsuharu
DD Shirakumo
DD Isonami
DD Uranami
DD Shikinami
DD Kisaragi
DD Hakaze
DD Yakaze

Allied Ships
PT PT-116, Shell hits 35, and is sunk
PT PT-154
PT PT-161

of course we lose a DD for a PT...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Chikuma
CA Chokai
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CA Ashigara
CA Kinugasa
DD Kagero
DD Arashi
DD Oshio, on fire
DD Yamakaze
DD Hatsuharu
DD Shirakumo
DD Isonami
DD Uranami
DD Shikinami
DD Kisaragi
DD Hakaze
DD Yakaze

Allied Ships
PT PT-67
PT PT-73, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
PT PT-80, Shell hits 9, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Chikuma
CA Chokai
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CA Ashigara
CA Kinugasa
DD Kagero
DD Arashi, Shell hits 1
DD Oshio, on fire
DD Yamakaze
DD Hatsuharu
DD Shirakumo
DD Isonami
DD Uranami
DD Shikinami
DD Kisaragi
DD Hakaze
DD Yakaze

Allied Ships
PT PT-154, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT PT-161, Shell hits 4, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Chikuma
CA Chokai
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CA Ashigara
CA Kinugasa
DD Kagero
DD Arashi
DD Oshio, on fire
DD Yamakaze
DD Hatsuharu
DD Shirakumo
DD Isonami
DD Uranami
DD Shikinami
DD Kisaragi
DD Hakaze
DD Yakaze

Allied Ships
PT PT-67, Shell hits 3, and is sunk

god damn! This TF should do a bombardment with good effect and not fight PTs, thatīs what the three surface combat TFs are for!


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Naval bombardment of Lautem, at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Myoko
CA Mikuma
CA Suzuya
CA Kumano
CA Kako


Allied ground losses:
357 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

of course, no result... Japanese nukes only eh? Not in this game, itīs more like Allied nukes only...

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Naval bombardment of Lautem, at 33,78


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed
Albacore: 1 destroyed
PB2Y Coronado: 1 destroyed
B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
CA Ashigara
CA Nachi
CA Haguro
CA Chokai
CA Chikuma

Allied Ships
MSW Poole, Shell hits 2, on fire
MSW Burnie, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-160, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Bundaberg, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-168, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-148, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-147, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-166, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Goulburn, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-151, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Maryborough, Shell hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
1431 casualties reported
Guns lost 26

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 16
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 9

the second cruiser TF at least does some damage but again the attack wasnīt worth the damage we took. CA Myoko sys 30 and two DDs in sinking condition for the destruction of half a dozen ac, an AK, some MSW and half a dozen PTs... but we have to keep the pressure up...

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Day Air attack on Pamakasan , at 24,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
B5N Kate x 5
G3M Nell x 49
G4M1 Betty x 62
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 71
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 62

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 32

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 174


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 10 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
173 casualties reported

Port hits 3
Port supply hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 91
Wellington III x 62


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Wellington III: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported

Port hits 2
Port supply hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 215
B5N Kate x 12
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 117

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 163

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 4
A-20B Boston x 28


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Albacore x 40
SBD Dauntless x 46
P-40E Warhawk x 15


Allied aircraft losses
Albacore: 11 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14233 troops, 457 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3394

Defending force 86751 troops, 78 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2898



Allied ground losses:
102 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8450 troops, 290 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1530

Defending force 23672 troops, 160 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 350



Allied ground losses:
98 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16060 troops, 201 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3486

Defending force 221451 troops, 757 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5865




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RE: it goes on... - 2/14/2009 4:26:53 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/15/42

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ASW attack at 23,65

Japanese Ships
DD Hokaze
DD Yukaze
DD Akikaze
DD Yuzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Hatsuyuki

Allied Ships
SS KXVIII, hits 9

my ASW TFs have been recently really been doing a good job. 1 hit and 8 near misses...


unfortunately we lost I-121 today. The mine layer sub was hit twice!! by a Mitchell today...


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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 215
B5N Kate x 12
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 117

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 97
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on La Foa , at 68,112


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 67


No Allied losses

Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x F4F-4 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet

with equally skilled pilots we wonīt have a tiny chance to fight the Allied fighters, weīre on the receiving end with 20 exp higher pilots already...


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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 5
A-20B Boston x 29


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet

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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14246 troops, 455 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3768

Defending force 86584 troops, 77 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2900



Allied ground losses:
115 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8450 troops, 290 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1532

Defending force 23447 troops, 156 guns, 202 vehicles, Assault Value = 346



Allied ground losses:
67 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16061 troops, 201 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3484

Defending force 221470 troops, 750 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5863



Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 73611 troops, 652 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 1992

Defending force 71758 troops, 893 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 1471


Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Guns lost 7


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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 64032 troops, 777 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 1517

Defending force 66400 troops, 302 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1248


Japanese ground losses:
805 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

nuts! 15 art units and 200.000 inf troops in China canīt do nearly the same damage than those Allied troops on Dili. Supply canīt be an issue, looks like itīs no problem to supply those units over the trails...


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RE: it goes on... - 2/14/2009 4:29:01 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/16/42

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TF 1060 encounters mine field at Lautem (33,78)

Allied Ships
MSW Poole
MSW Maryborough

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TF 1060 encounters mine field at Lautem (33,78)

Allied Ships
MSW Poole
MSW Maryborough

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ASW attack at 25,66

Japanese Ships
DD Shiokaze
DD Tachikaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI

only two out of six DDs tried to attack...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 214
B5N Kate x 12
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 117

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 143
Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on La Foa , at 68,112


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 61


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x F4F-4 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet

with the conquest of Noumea, the Allied now have two of my empty bases that they can use for training purpose... unfortunately...

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 4
A-20B Boston x 28


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Albacore x 33
SBD Dauntless x 26
P-40E Warhawk x 14


Allied aircraft losses
Albacore: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

am happy with the flak losses...

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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14240 troops, 456 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4272

Defending force 86341 troops, 77 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2894



Allied ground losses:
88 casualties reported

deliberate attack tomorrow... itīs been an eternity since the last a2g attacks were flown... range 2 hexes, 50.000 supplies...

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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8433 troops, 289 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1528

Defending force 23273 troops, 154 guns, 201 vehicles, Assault Value = 346



Allied ground losses:
123 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16036 troops, 200 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3485

Defending force 221436 troops, 741 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5863



Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 73462 troops, 644 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 1990

Defending force 71679 troops, 891 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 1469


Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 64108 troops, 781 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 1526

Defending force 70442 troops, 465 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1390


Japanese ground losses:
360 casualties reported
Guns lost 20



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RE: it goes on... - 2/14/2009 5:13:23 PM   
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Hmm true true. But one or two fast battlecruiser+cruiser task force could do the trick (with heavy float plane reconing trick). Don't recall how severe were RN losses during the Indian campaign and what portion of the fleet is currently situated in Karachi. It's never too bad to sink some 10-15 merchant ships + whatever you can find in port.

Ever tried sending BC/CA to bomb Karachi ? The result is the same as at Bataan, Manilla, Singapore, Hong Kong, Pearl Harbor, etc :.
And with the number of LB, TB, FB, etc, that have arrived in the meantime...

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RE: it goes on... - 2/14/2009 5:28:36 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/17/42

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Day Air attack on La Foa , at 68,112


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 44


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4F-4 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Waingapu at 27,74

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Kunitama Maru
AK Ushio Maru
AK Gisho Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Misaku Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet

As an Allied player you hate Betties and Nells but especially in Nikmod I would love to swap them out to B-17s and B-24s... 2 B-17 lost at the end of the day for two small AKs sunk...

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ASW attack near Kendari at 33,71

Japanese Ships
DD Okikaze
DD Sawakaze
DD Minekaze
DD Umikaze
DD Yudachi
DD Murasame
DD Shiratsuyu

Allied Ships
SS O21, hits 2

insīt O21 a mine layer sub? Or was it O19 and O20?


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Sub attack at 12,85

Japanese Ships
SS I-176

Allied Ships
AK Atlantic, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

we lose two small AKs North of Timor and we sink one big AK West of Broome heading to Perth...


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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 224323 troops, 2622 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 4298

Defending force 86099 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2895

Japanese max assault: 4154 - adjusted assault: 2238

Allied max defense: 2751 - adjusted defense: 2764

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)


Japanese ground losses:
7190 casualties reported
Guns lost 189
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
1405 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

what really pisses me off is that this is already the second attack that isnīt able to knock down a fort level! Am I totally nuts? In this attack there were over 400 combat engineers involved... ridicoulos... but Iīm still confident that the base will fall soon... why? Because Iīve got 7500 assault points that I can rotate in and out and I wonder how long it will take until there is no supply left for the defender. But wait! Even without a single bullet, a division can still kill you... with bajanettes or whatever the designers thought they would use. 0 supply still means 25% of the assault value, so with 9 forts itīs nearly like they would have 100% supply. Once again, one of those wonderful design desitions. Use 10.000 troops in the maginot line and even with out a single MG bullett or grenade you can still wreck an attacker! lol

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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8386 troops, 287 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1030

Defending force 23018 troops, 150 guns, 201 vehicles, Assault Value = 342



Allied ground losses:
131 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16047 troops, 201 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3484

Defending force 221242 troops, 731 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5876



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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 73459 troops, 641 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 1990

Defending force 71595 troops, 886 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 1466


Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 64232 troops, 788 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 1533

Defending force 73620 troops, 481 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1533


Japanese ground losses:
350 casualties reported
Guns lost 16



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Allied ship losses. As you can see, with more or less carefull strategies so far, Miller didnīt lose many high value ships.




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Also our losses are far from severe. How we lost Hyuga is still something that pisses me off though, I just should have been more carefully. But thatīs it.




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Only two CVs ?  I thought it was more.  Bad memory.  You didn't lose any, did you ?

BTW, O19 & O20 are the minelaying subs.  O21 is a regular sub.  But one with working torpedoes...

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Only two CVs ?  I thought it was more.  Bad memory.  You didn't lose any, did you ?

BTW, O19 & O20 are the minelaying subs.  O21 is a regular sub.  But one with working torpedoes...


thx for the info.

Unfortunately only two CVs were sunk, Miller was quite lucky when it came down to his CV losses. IIRC then Lexington was hit by three torps and was 1000 miles away from Pearl Harbour but was pumped out at some level 3 port or so. Then the four British CVs, 300 high exp Betty/Nell bombers scored only a couple of 800kg AP bomb hits that obviously didnīt do much damage, one or two torp hits didnīt help either. On the way South to Perth the heavily damaged Indomitable then was missed by torps from a sub. So, in the end there are only the two sinkings that count.

I didnīt lose any carriers, the enemy scored some bombs on my CVEs but all are safe and will be operational within the next couple of weeks.

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Yes, Allied Damage Control is great.  I noticed that recently, when I started playing some games as Japan against the AI.
Did you accelerate the building of the late-war CVs ?

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Yes, Allied Damage Control is great.  I noticed that recently, when I started playing some games as Japan against the AI.
Did you accelerate the building of the late-war CVs ?



two CVs are accellerated, they will arrive within the next 8 months. Taiho should arrive within late 43 too.

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That would potentially a monster of a carrier battle.  This would be 7 big and four medium carriers on your side, against approximately the same number of fleet CVs and a few more mediums and CVLs.

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That would potentially a monster of a carrier battle.  This would be 7 big and four medium carriers on your side, against approximately the same number of fleet CVs and a few more mediums and CVLs.



I can field over 900 carrier based ac in 10 months or so if no CV is lost but due to our hr they canīt be in the same hex.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/19/42

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TF 25 encounters mine field at Maumere (28,73)

Japanese Ships
AP Kiyozumi Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

A medium sized AP hits a Type 93 mine at a friendly port. Now that is a rare occassion! While Japanese Type 4 and Type 93 mines are only enough to scratch some paint on an Allied AK, itīs enough to put this Japanese AP into sinking condition... flt is at 54 and there are 17 fires, I expect the ship to sink...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Dili at 31,77

Japanese Ships
AG AG-103
AG AG-104
AG AG-106
AG AG-110
AG AG-111
AG AG-112
AG AG-114
AG AG-115
AG AG-117
AG AG-120
AG AG-122
AG AG-354
AG AG-355
AG AG-356
AG AG-358
AG AG-359
AG AG-360
AG AG-362
AG AG-363
AG AG-365
AG AG-367
AG AG-375
AG AG-5051
AG AG-5068
AG AG-5089
AG AG-5090
AG AG-5091
AG AG-5114
AG AG-5138
AG AG-5139
AG AG-5140
AG AG-5141
AG AG-5142
AG AG-5143
AG AG-5164
AG AG-5165, Shell hits 38, and is sunk
AG AG-2051
AG AG-2052
AG AG-2053
AG AG-2055
AG AG-2057
AG AG-2059
AG AG-2060
AG AG-2061
AG AG-2066

Allied Ships
PT PT-143
PT PT-144
PT PT-146

Miller uses his PTs like they were used in real life also, but only one barge is sunk...

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TF 1008 encounters mine field at Derby (24,85)

Allied Ships
MSW Latrobe
MSW Shepparton
MSW Katoomba
MSW Launceton
MSW Gympie

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 105


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
78 casualties reported

Port hits 4
Port supply hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet

I donīt know where all my supply has gone in two turns but the base has 0 supply now! Two days ago the base had 7.000+ supplies and all my units were fully supplied. Now my units are 50% supplied and no supply is at the base left... another nice feature... I would call it a bug as thereīs no reason why all the supply should suddenly vanish...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 188
B5N Kate x 12
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 149

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 172
Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Koumac , at 67,111


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 46


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x F4F-4 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet


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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14213 troops, 457 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4059

Defending force 83710 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2764



Allied ground losses:
120 casualties reported

deliberate attack tomorrow...

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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8410 troops, 290 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1029

Defending force 22464 troops, 147 guns, 193 vehicles, Assault Value = 339



Allied ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16049 troops, 202 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3481

Defending force 220654 troops, 719 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5863



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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 73378 troops, 636 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 1990

Defending force 71646 troops, 883 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 1469


Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 66492 troops, 797 guns, 136 vehicles, Assault Value = 1560

Defending force 72432 troops, 451 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1513

Allied max assault: 1492 - adjusted assault: 1168

Japanese max defense: 1248 - adjusted defense: 863

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0


Japanese ground losses:
1595 casualties reported
Guns lost 40

Allied ground losses:
1729 casualties reported
Guns lost 65
Vehicles lost 6

the next deliberate attack, perhaps all my supply was given to the Allied attacker... the first 1:1 attack, we still get only a sh*tty adjusted av even that we defend in a wooden hex. At least this time the Allied suffered slightly more casualties than we did, but with two bombardments we will have lost 1.500 troops more again... the fact that some 15.000 supplies vanished in one turn (7.000 at the base and 8.000 within my troops) will be the reason why I will lose this base... great! Really... great!


Next Allied target are the Fidjis, half a dozen TFs are moving in. Wonīt be much of a problem to take the bases and I wonīt do anything, itīs not worth it.







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He moves fast from one massive invasion to the next.

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He moves fast from one massive invasion to the next.



thatīs no problem when you know that thereīs not much resistance. At least I guess he should know that all those island far out arenīt really defended. Why should I... But he will reach a point where it will be painful for him. And instead of moving out of Timor, Iīm happy that he disperses his troops down there...

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this turn makes me mad again...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/20/42

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CA Suzuya
CA Kumano
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Kagero, Shell hits 2
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Natsushio
DD Arashi

Allied Ships
PT PT-143
PT PT-144
PT PT-146

I had two surface combat TFs and two bombardment TFs. This time one surface combat TF had the lowest TF number and the other SC TF had the highest TF number. Which TF attacks the PTs? One of the bombardment TFs of course. God damn, how does this work now? Of course we lose another DD again... Hey, those PTs are so useless... ho ho ho, Iīm Santa Clause... how many threads Iīve been involved when people told me that it takes 50 PTs to sink one DD when Iīve experienced the complete opposite and all the AARs Iīve read show the same thing that happens to me...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CA Suzuya
CA Kumano
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Kagero, Shell hits 2
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 1
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze, on fire, heavy damage
DD Natsushio
DD Arashi

Allied Ships
PT PT-167
PT PT-170, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT PT-172

another round...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CA Suzuya
CA Kumano
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Kagero
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 3
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze, on fire, heavy damage
DD Natsushio
DD Arashi

Allied Ships
PT PT-149, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT PT-157
PT PT-164, Shell hits 9, and is sunk

and another round...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CA Suzuya
CA Kumano
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Kagero, Shell hits 1
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze, on fire, heavy damage
DD Natsushio
DD Arashi

Allied Ships
PT PT-143
PT PT-144, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
PT PT-146

hey! another round?

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CA Suzuya
CA Kumano
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Kagero
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze, on fire, heavy damage
DD Natsushio
DD Arashi

Allied Ships
PT PT-167, Shell hits 21, and is sunk
PT PT-172

of course thereīs ... another round...
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CA Suzuya
CA Kumano
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Kagero
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze, on fire, heavy damage
DD Natsushio
DD Arashi

Allied Ships
PT PT-157, Shell hits 12, and is sunk

Oh? Another round?

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CA Suzuya
CA Kumano
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Kagero
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Natsushio
DD Arashi

Allied Ships
PT PT-143, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT PT-146, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Ahh... another round...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CA Suzuya
CA Kumano
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Kagero
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze, on fire, heavy damage
DD Natsushio
DD Arashi

Allied Ships
PT PT-172, Shell hits 10, and is sunk

and? of course! another round...

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Naval bombardment of Lautem, at 33,78


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
PB2Y Coronado: 1 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
CA Kako
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CA Furutaka

Allied Ships
MSW Maryborough, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Poole, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
1248 casualties reported
Guns lost 18

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 20
Port hits 6
Port supply hits 13

we do hit the fully stacked airfield this time but the ac destroyed is more or less a joke...

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Naval bombardment of Lautem, at 33,78


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed
Albacore: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CA Ashigara
CA Nachi
CA Haguro
CA Chokai
CA Chikuma

Allied Ships
MSW Maryborough, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Poole, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
517 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 5
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

and the cruiser TF that wasnīt involved in the PT fights even achieves a worse result... just not worth my attacks... I must be stupid, I know that it doesnīt work to attack enemy bases at this date of he war... 11/42... but Iīm still doing it.... how stupid can I be...

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ASW attack near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
DD Kisaragi
DD Uranami
DD Isonami
DD Shirakumo
DD Hatsuharu
DD Yamakaze

Allied Ships
SS O21

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 41
P-38G Lightning x 4


Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 damaged

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x P-40E Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet

fighter training on Timor now also...

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 168


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
119 casualties reported

Port hits 3
Port supply hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet

with my actions I must admit that Iīm stupid, but how stupid can the game be? Thereīs 0 (in words: zero) supply at Dili but the Mitchells achieve 35 supply hits? So... how much is 35% of 0?

Itīs wonderful when 15.000 supplies just vanish...


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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 96
Wellington III x 62
F-5A Lightning x 6


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Port hits 3
Port supply hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

another 10 supply hits?

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Day Air attack on Koumac , at 67,111


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 47


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x F4F-4 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet


fighter training on New Caledonia...

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Day Air attack on TF at 33,77


Allied aircraft
Beaufort I x 14
P-38G Lightning x 28


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsukaze, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Beaufort I launching torpedoes at 200 feet

Miller flew in more torpedo bombers. Doesnīt matter, the DD only moved one hex after being hit by the PTs so it was dead already...

so, today we killed half a dozen PTs, a dozen ac (out of 200+) and two MSW for the loss of one DD. Points wise a victory for us but everyone knows how borked the victory points are anyway in the game.

Was there something positive this turn? Yes! We didnīt hit a mine!


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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Albacore x 27
SBD Dauntless x 25
Beaufort I x 19
P-38G Lightning x 24


Allied aircraft losses
Albacore: 3 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Beaufort I bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 219092 troops, 2476 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 4713

Defending force 83450 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2756

Japanese max assault: 3494 - adjusted assault: 1608

Allied max defense: 2522 - adjusted defense: 1978

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)


Japanese ground losses:
6587 casualties reported
Guns lost 138
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
1514 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

I donīt know in which phase I am at the moment, I guess weīve entered the "nothing works for the Japanse anymore phase". Third attack, third time we have hundreds of combat engineers in the hex and the third time we were not able to reduce a fort level. Stupid game...

mmm, the defender has been cut off for months, bombed for the same time (my bombers stopped flying, must be part of the "nothing works anymore phase") and over a dozen art units donīt do 10% of the damage the 5 Allied art units (that are supplied over 120 miles of trails) do at Dili.


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8390 troops, 290 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1029

Defending force 22249 troops, 144 guns, 193 vehicles, Assault Value = 340



Allied ground losses:
163 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16069 troops, 202 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3521

Defending force 220547 troops, 709 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5865



Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 73390 troops, 637 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 1992

Defending force 71612 troops, 886 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1466


Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6967 troops, 209 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1391

Defending force 70085 troops, 396 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1431


Japanese ground losses:
546 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 1

why doing deliberate attacks, better to destroy the divisions with bombardments only...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/21/42

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1023
TF 1023 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114


42 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK Texan
DD Grayson

Japanese ground losses:
96 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Allied ground losses:
1005 casualties reported

the enemy is going in at Nandi, this was somewhat expected. Thereīs only one IJN base force with CD guns on the Fidjis and it is base at: Nandi unfortunately it does no damage even though there was no pre invasion bombardment. This is highly careless IMO but Miller gets away with it. What if I would have put a dedicated CD unit here? Oh well...

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1023
TF 1023 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114



Allied ground losses:
536 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1030
TF 1030 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114



Allied ground losses:
465 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1037
TF 1037 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114


8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
647 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1043
TF 1043 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114


13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Lardner
DD Stewart, Shell hits 1


Allied ground losses:
537 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1046
TF 1046 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114


16 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Vampire


Allied ground losses:
636 casualties reported

there must be again A LOT of troops coming ashore... I donīt know why...

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Day Air attack on Pamakasan , at 24,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
B5N Kate x 5
G3M Nell x 54
G4M1 Betty x 60
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 108
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 72

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 59

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 55
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 159

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 36 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 8 destroyed, 90 damaged

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet

we LRCAPed Dili today to annoy our enemy and due to the fact that the bombers at Lautern (those that get escorts) are set to nav attack/airfield attack the bombers from Northern Australia come in first. The Mitchells pay a nice toll for their attack, many turn back due to low morale...

22 are accounted lost at the end of the day...


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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 8
B-17E Fortress x 101
LB-30 Liberator x 22
B-24D Liberator x 105

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 24 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 41 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 4 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 39 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported

Port hits 4
Port supply hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet

I expected the British to show up but instead the flying American tanks show up... with 80+ being damaged and flying over 1000 miles you would think about a couple of them lost... think about it...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 188
B5N Kate x 12
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 152

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Runway hits 161

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Koumac , at 67,111


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 27


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x F4F-4 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Nandi , at 85,114


Allied aircraft
OS2U-3 Kingfisher x 9


Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 5 damaged

Nandi and Suva were reconned by the usual two dozen Kingfishers...

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 4
A-20B Boston x 28


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet

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Day Air attack on 3rd New Chinese Corps, at 47,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 4
Ki-49 Helen x 117

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
82 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

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Day Air attack on 51st Chinese Corps, at 47,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 6
Ki-49 Helen x 40

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet

wow, we fly air attacks in China again...

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 45
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6

Allied aircraft
Albacore x 22
SBD Dauntless x 27
Beaufort I x 29
P-40E Warhawk x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 8 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Albacore: 5 destroyed, 8 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 9 damaged
Beaufort I: 9 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 20 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Beaufort I bombing at 6000 feet
12 x Albacore bombing at 5000 feet
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

this is the afternoon phase when Lauternīs bombers are coming in. Even though that the Warhawks are on escort we donīt achieve more than a 2:1... if you think we would bounce them then all I can say: dream on, the bounce is an Allied feature, if itīs happening for the Japanese side, well then it must be a bug...

we did get a shot at the bombers but didnīt achieve much...


In the end we achieve a 3:1 in ac lost today but we have also lost 13 pilots, which makes it again a 75% loss rate over my own base. Please NOTE the amazing number of Allied 4Es lost... laughable Nikmod result... I was hoping to see at least half a dozen lost but what should I say about 2... remember, 80+ were damaged...




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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14204 troops, 459 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4256

Defending force 81236 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2647



Allied ground losses:
125 casualties reported

guess we will attack again in two turns...

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Ground combat at Nandi

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1640 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 90

Defending force 17820 troops, 103 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 879

believe it or not, Miller landed no less than 5!!!! divisions at Nandi!!! What is he doing? Any explanation for this? Iīm a fan of using brute force but 5 divisions? lol, thatīs a good way to wreck his troops, those five divisions are down to only 40% of their combat strenght just from landing at Noumea and now at Nandi. Iīm not sure why he uses 5 divisions for something two bgds would easily achieve but it serves me well. Those divs will need probably 2 months of rest now.

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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8372 troops, 290 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1030

Defending force 22013 troops, 143 guns, 191 vehicles, Assault Value = 339



Allied ground losses:
169 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16052 troops, 202 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3523

Defending force 220180 troops, 706 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5861



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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 73423 troops, 632 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 1990

Defending force 71505 troops, 887 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 1464


Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 64453 troops, 716 guns, 121 vehicles, Assault Value = 1411

Defending force 69284 troops, 377 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1402

Allied max assault: 1165 - adjusted assault: 730

Japanese max defense: 1141 - adjusted defense: 1585

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
1246 casualties reported
Guns lost 33

Allied ground losses:
1908 casualties reported
Guns lost 72
Vehicles lost 13

another deliberate attack at Dili and the first time our adjusted av gets adjusted up and the Allied one gets adjusted down. Am also happy about the losses this time... Miller asked me again if Iīm going to invade Lautern to cut off his troops at Dili because Iīve used a dozen cruisers yesterday and when I look at the units at Lautern then this becomes more and more an option it seems. After weeks of recon (with Dinah IIs), Lautern shows only 38.000 troops and as recon normally multiplies the enemy troops by 1.5-2 I expect not more than 20-25.000 troops at the base. I canīt remember how many divisions landed at Lautern but I guess there were 6, so this means only 1 would defend the place with a couple of base forces. Hmmm.... landing 6 or 7 divisions could do the trick quite fast... Iīm thinking about it...



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/22/42

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the enemy TFs are still unloading the whole day, looks like thereīs one TF for each division. Well, itīs surely not an abuse of a hr but thereīs also no need to use 5 TFs to unload 5 TFs when I moved 250.000 troops on three TFs to India...

Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1023
TF 1023 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114


16 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK Nevadan


Allied ground losses:
265 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1030
TF 1030 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114


20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
515 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1037
TF 1037 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114


10 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
529 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1043
TF 1043 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114


21 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Crosby
AK Makiki


Allied ground losses:
558 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1046
TF 1046 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114


20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CL Detroit


Allied ground losses:
583 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1023
TF 1023 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114



Allied ground losses:
71 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1030
TF 1030 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114


7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK Munlock, Shell hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
409 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1037
TF 1037 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114


5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD John D. Edwards, Shell hits 1


Allied ground losses:
594 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1043
TF 1043 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114


35 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK Mokihana, Shell hits 1
DD Parrott, Shell hits 2
CL Concord


Allied ground losses:
588 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Coastal Guns at Nandi, 85,114, firing at TF 1046
TF 1046 troops unloading over beach at Nandi, 85,114


48 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK Memphis City, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Litchfield
CL Detroit

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
268 casualties reported

at the end of the day Iīm still not sure if all ships have completed unloading... I can only hope that Miller keeps up his invasions in this style as sooner or later he will get totally trashed for doing invasions this style...

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Day Air attack on Pamakasan , at 24,66

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 5
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 105
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 71

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 38

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 5
Blenheim IV x 83
Wellington III x 70

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 4 damaged
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed, 20 damaged
Wellington III: 1 destroyed, 25 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 47

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Wellington III bombing at 12000 feet

the British visit Koepang, 9 bombers shot down by flak (6 Blenheim)... we lose 2 Dinah II on the ground... damage will be repaired within a day...

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 22
B-26B Marauder x 179


Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported

Port hits 6
Port supply hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 6000 feet

Miller moved nearly 200 Marauders to Lautern, supply canīt be an issue for him...

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 6
B-17E Fortress x 65
LB-30 Liberator x 19
B-24D Liberator x 67


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 8
Port supply hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet

the 4Es are flying again already, none are lost...

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 5
A-20B Boston x 30


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet

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Day Air attack on 53rd Chinese Corps, at 47,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 3
Ki-49 Helen x 32

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 87th Chinese Corps, at 47,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 9
Ki-49 Helen x 148

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 28


No Allied losses

sweep in the afternoon coming from Darwin... 1 Lightning crashed...

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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14190 troops, 458 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5304

Defending force 81165 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2649



Allied ground losses:
255 casualties reported

deliberate attack tomorrow... fourth try to knock one fort level down...

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Ground combat at Nandi

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1640 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 90

Defending force 36933 troops, 344 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1004



Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8402 troops, 289 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1029

Defending force 21670 troops, 138 guns, 190 vehicles, Assault Value = 338



Allied ground losses:
117 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16069 troops, 202 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3523

Defending force 220038 troops, 698 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5856



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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 73447 troops, 634 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 1991

Defending force 71554 troops, 884 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 1465


Japanese ground losses:
141 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Guns lost 7


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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6878 troops, 205 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1227

Defending force 67052 troops, 334 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1319


Japanese ground losses:
592 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Nandi

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 36523 troops, 328 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1002

Defending force 4753 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 90

Allied max assault: 534 - adjusted assault: 298

Japanese max defense: 73 - adjusted defense: 87

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Nandi base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
361 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

looks like the 5 enemy divisions are far from being combat ready, they even have problem to dislodge a SNLF unit and an IJN base force...

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Hmmm, I don't know about you, but I'm starting to think I shouldn't have started my game with a mod that has nikmod style A2A adjustments. I mean seriously, ops losses=ridiculous, flak=insane, Allied bombers=absurd.

I think if this is the way the design team sets up AE I want to start playing as Allied a lot more!

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Xxzard

Hmmm, I don't know about you, but I'm starting to think I shouldn't have started my game with a mod that has nikmod style A2A adjustments. I mean seriously, ops losses=ridiculous, flak=insane, Allied bombers=absurd.

I think if this is the way the design team sets up AE I want to start playing as Allied a lot more!



the changes that were done were going into the right direction, especially the Uber cap issue. In some cases, like endurance of Allied 4Es and Allied flak it has gone too far. If you donīt have to put Cap over your bases because you can rely on the flak of a couple of base forces than I donīt know... IJN fighters vs US bombers looks good when they meet in the air IMO but overall Allied bombers are just too dominating when they are unescorted. Iīm not saying Allied airforce should be dominating by 43, but not unescorted bombers vs bases with 300 Japanese fighters...

I doubt that AE has such radical changes when it goes to undestructable Allied bombers. At least I hope so. Unescorted raids shouldnīt be a cake walk against bases with hundreds of fighters IMO.

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Agreed on the uber-cap issue, that was always a problem, although I would sometimes wish the cap was maybe a little bit better. I had 17 out of 18 hudsons break through 25 zeros on cap. I would surely think this would be a slaughter, and I certainly think in reality it would be. What seems to stop the allies is the morale hit more than losses.

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RE: it goes on... - 2/15/2009 6:20:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Xxzard

Agreed on the uber-cap issue, that was always a problem, although I would sometimes wish the cap was maybe a little bit better. I had 17 out of 18 hudsons break through 25 zeros on cap. I would surely think this would be a slaughter, and I certainly think in reality it would be. What seems to stop the allies is the morale hit more than losses.



yeah, the ONLY thing is the morale that stops them. But that doesnīt happen if they come in with escorts as then the fight vs. the escorts takes long enough that the bomber get through mostly unharmed anyway. Itīs a mess...

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