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[SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Want To... - 12/15/2008 11:48:37 PM   
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This discussion was started in the War Room section of the forum by tbp HERE

I was asked by a mod to post it here in the main area with some info I put together.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tbp

Nomenclature S:skill, A:attitude, P:phobia

Q1
1) S:martialarts
2) A:loner
3) S:handtohand
4) S:lockpicking
5) S:throwing
6) A:optimist
Q2
1) S:teaching
2) S:stealthy
3) P:psycho
4) A:friendly
Q3
1) S:lockpicking
2) A:arrogant
3) S:stealthy
4) A:normal
Q4
1) S:auto_weaps
2) A:friendly
3) A:normal
4) A:asshole
5) A:loner
Q5
1) A:coward
2)
3) A:aggressive
4)
Q6
1) A:coward
2) S:nightops
3) P:claustrophobic
4)
5)
Q7
1) S:electronics
2) S:knifing
3) S:nightops
4)
Q8
1) S:ambidext
2)
3) A:optimist
4) P:psycho
Q9
1) P:forgetful
2)
3) A:pessimist
4) P:nervous
Q10
1)
2) A:pessimist
3) A:asshole
4) P:nervous
Q11
1)
2) S:teaching
3) A:aggressive
4) A:normal
5)
Q12
1) S:martialarts
2) S:knifing
3)
4) S:auto_weaps
5) S:handtohand
6) S:electronics
7) A:asshole
8)
Q13
1) P:forgetful
2) A:normal
3) A:normal
4) P:nervous
Q14
1) P:claustrophobic
2) A:normal
3) P:nervous
4) P:psycho
Q15
1) S:throwing
2) S:ambidext
3)
4) A:arrogant
5) A:normal
6) A:pessimist
Q16
1) A:normal
2) A:pessimist
3) P:psycho
4) A:arrogant
5) A:optimist

{ formatting keeps getting mangled by the board, sorry for the inconvenience }


As stated by tbp, the quiz info from above can be found here by default: C:\Tri Synergy\Hired Guns\basis\scripts\logic\quiz.xml (use Excel to open these) The blank answers do not affect the outcome and can be used to get the outcome you want (more on this later)

I started looking through the rest of the files and think I pretty much worked most of it out. I found that it isn’t always obvious from the Email you get after taking the IPA test exactly what you skills you got. For example I was getting Nightops and thinking I didn’t get any skill because of how it is worded. It would sure great if the devs added the ability to see more detailed info about your character like Jagged Alliance 2 had. In JA2 you could see EXACTLY what perks you had because they were spelled out on your character info sheet. (Maybe some kind soul could mod this in later ;) )

I also made a chart for each question showing the tallies of each possible response so that I could plan out my responses to get a predictable result.



So from quiz.xml we can get the following information:

(Sorry about the image size. I am having a hard time getting it sized correctly and I don't know how to post a table here)

The letter is the perk type A = Attitude | S = Skill | P = Phobia and the number(s) are the answer number for that particular question (Note that some questions may have more than one answer that gives no affect and one question has two answers that yield attitude:normal) You can have 1 Attitude, 1 Phobia and 2 Skills. I do not think that having only one skill makes it stronger as was the case with JA2. It is possible to get only 1 skill though. Can anyone confirm that there is no skill specialization?


In order to use this chart just figure out which attitude and skills you want (you may also pick a phobia). Work your way down the chart from question 1. Then make sure the total for each perk (A, P, S & alt S) you want is greater than the total for any other possibilities for each (IE if you want optimist, as long as it has 2 picks and all the other attitude picks are less than 2 then you will get optimist). I haven’t quite figured out how to get phobias to exactly what you want as I believe your attitude picks may have an affect on the phobia results. It will take some more experimenting to figure out how those are calculated I think. If anyone wants to help that would be great.

So… For example, in order to get Optimistic, Nightops and Stealth you would use:

1. | 6 (A: Optimist)
2. | 2 (S: Stealthy)
3. | 3 (S: Stealthy)
4. | 5 (A: Loner)
5. | 1 ( A: Coward)
6. | 2 (S: Nightops)
7. | 3 (S: Nightops)
8. | 3 (A: Optimist)
9. | 3 (A: Pessimist)
10.| 3 (A: Asshole)
11.| 3 (A: Aggressive)
12.| 6 (S: Electronics)
13.| 4 (P: Nervous)
14.| 4 (P: Psycho)
15.| 2 (S: Ambidex)
16.| 5 (A: Optimist)

Note that none of the non highlighted options were picked more than the highlighted types. There are several ways to get the same result. The important thing is the TOTAL A, P, S, S that you arrive at.

The Email replies for each IPA result are found here: C:\Tri Synergy\Hired Guns\basis\locale\usa\scripts\emails

The E-mail for each result of the IPA will say as follows:

Attitudes You can pick one.


Aggressive

Dear Friend!

Let's be straight - nobody is perfect. Regular stress, hard work, a new home, bad diet - everything of this has a negative effect on our behavior, that's true.
We have found what troubles your communication skills: AGGRESSION.
While enraged, you are capable of the things that demons in hell can only dream about.
We would like to recommend you to spend more time outdoors avoiding stress. Exclude fat and fried food from your nutrition, replacing it with fruit and morning exercise.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Arrogant

Dear Friend!

To be frank - the test results have shown us what a unique kind of person we are dealing with. Undoubtedly, you are capable not only of the actions you threaten your friends and family with - but in fact your talents are boundless, oh yes!... However, why don't you let other people to do a part of work instead?
Your ARROGANCE can play an evil trick on you someday. And no-one will be near to help you…

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA


Asshole

Dear Customer!

The council of doctors processing the results of your testing have different opinions… Doctor Kleiner, a psychologist (Michigan University) thinks that (citation follows) "…the bastard was often beaten by peers in childhood", while Doctor Lynbert (Creps University, NY) replies your behavior is from "...the lack of attention in family, which later resulted in maniac obtrusiveness."
Anyway, the experts (probably as well as your relatives) are sure about one thing: You are INSUFFERABLE.
Few beings are able to communicate with you for long - it's a fact.

Best regards,
IPA

Coward

Dear Friend!

Our relations are anonymous, so we cannot give precise advice for your case… But we will try to soften the unpleasant news brought to you by the test results.
You see, it has nothing to do with everyone being afraid of half-open dark closet as a kid, or high-grade bullies at school… The thing is we all grow up. It's time to face the truth: you are a plain COWARD.
Don't worry though - the latest methods of our institute will help you overcome this "personal feature." First, visit unknown places more often. Second, while talking to people you don't know, act like they owe you a big sum of money. Third, when you see a police officer, mock his uniform and behavior loudly.
By following these simple recommendations, you will overcome your COWARDLINESS in a short period of time...
If you survive, of course.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Friendly

Dear Friend!

Your answers show you are a true Christian, who regards commandments above personal interest.
No living creature can be angry with you - because your appearance and demeanor beam with FRIENDLINESS and KIND-HEARTINESS. Keep it up, and the world will crumble before your smile.

P.S. Besides, as one of our customers said, "A kind word can give you much more than a gun and a smile." Think about it.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Loner

Dear Friend!

The test results clearly show us the following:
You are a LONER. Your only friend is the knife on your belt and your only enemy is your distrust.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Normal

Dear Customer!

It's so strange, especially in our complex days, but anyway - the test didn't show any extraordinary abilities or deviations in you. You are a NORMAL PERSON.
Of course, it's a bit unfair that someone else got Superman's cloak again, but believe us - all heroic deeds are done by no one but regular people. It helps that you stay unnoticed.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Optimist

Dear Customer!

A sure walk, a proud stature and a bright concept of the future - these things make you different from the others. You are forever OPTIMISTIC, and this is great. Although sometimes it's useful to play a little safer and avoid jumping in fire - but there's no reason not to hope for the best.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Pessimist

Dear Friend!

Your negative attitude towards your destiny will sooner or later affect your relations with people. Which will make you no good. Trust us, even if you are a PESSIMIST, it's not to be viewed as a dogma. Life is beautiful. All people are friends. Tomorrow will be a sunny day. Simply believe in it.
P.S. Don't forget an umbrella anyway. Just in case…

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA



Phobias You can pick one.


Claustrophobic

Dear Friend!

Walls cramp you in your nightmares not letting you breathe?... You are afraid of elevators (not to mention a shower cubicle)?... Your car is not spacious enough - even though it's a school bus?
Clearly, you have CLAUSTROPHOBIA. This is a well-known disorder, but the treatment is long and painful.
We recommend you to visit your therapist as soon as possible, and meanwhile, avoid being in closed spaces. Go on a march, or to a zoo, or even better - a safari.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Forgetful

Dear Customer!

Distraction and FORGETFULNESS are two main features of your personality that don't let you develop to your full. Keep that in mind… if you can.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Nervous

Dear Friend!

Let's be honest - have you had good rest recently? If you did, then how can we explain that you are the NERVOUS type? Trust us, life is too short, so don't waste it on worrying about useless people. In the end, the day will come when they will regret what they were doing... but it's going to be too late!
And up to then - control your emotions. Take care of yourself.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Psycho

Dear Friend!

The main thing you need to know is not everyone wants to murder you. Frankly, most of them didn't even think about it. Remember that, or you'll become a real PSYCHO.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA


Skills You can pick two.


Ambidextrous

Dear Customer!

Your great coordination and your ability to attract attention give you great chances in an artistic carrier - like... the circus? Did you ever think of becoming a clown juggler? No, you didn't? Than we recommend you to pay more attention to your inner desires and hidden abilities!

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Automatic Weapons

Dear Customer!

The test results have shown what was clearly seen at firing range - you are a specialist in AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. No matter what is in your hands - an M16 or an AKM - your heartbeat will stay steady and all bullets will find their target...

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Electronics

Dear Friend!

Your entire childhood was obviously dominated by computer games and has a serious effect on your test results. You know (or you think you know) how every electronic device you see works. It's a pity life regularly brings you to places where you don't see these things at all...

Or maybe it's for the better.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Hand to Hand

Dear Customer!

Your hard fists, tempered by many years of exercises have their effect! You are a professional HAND-TO-HAND fighter. Your fast reaction and high strength give you excellent chances to be victorious in melee combat. Be careful though - if your hit misses accidentally, it may bring a tree or a wall on you...

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Knifing

Dear Friend!

A knife is a logical extension of your hand, as it brings death to all. You are an expert in KNIFE COMBAT, and this proud name is bravely displayed by the scars on your body from the times when you weren't so effective with your weapon of choice.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Lockpicking

Dear Friend!

The ability to concentrate on movement and able fingers are really rare combination of skills amongst people of your profession. We think you could show great results in table tennis or card cheating. Just remember - these tricks will not help you in combat. Overall, you are an excellent LOCKPICK.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Martial Arts

Dear Customer!

Your sensei can be proud of you. The test clearly shows you are a MARTIAL ARTS master. You can choose a belt of any color as every of them will mark your individual combat skills as deadly and effective.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Nightops

Dear Customer!

Unfortunately, the efforts of best experts of our agency were unable to show any other special skills you have in your profession.

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Stealthy

Dear Customer!

The childhood you probably spent in scout camps taught you to misbehave without being spotted, because it helps you avoid punishment. Your childhood is gone, but its lessons were useful, and now you are an extraordinary specialist in STEALTH MOVEMENT. Enemies can hear you after they realize they are already too late...

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Teaching

Dear Customer!

Your parents taught you to read so you didn't bother them to read tales before you fell sleep. Since then you were constantly in front of your peers in your learning speed, this helped you to become a specialist in LEARNING. But be careful when you share your knowledge! Someone can ultimately use it against the teacher...

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA

Throwing

Dear Customer!

Training for your school baseball team must have had a clearly positive effect on your current talent. You are a great specialist in THROWING small items and inflicting maximal damage with them. Remember that the highly-developed countries lack hand grenades - share them with enemies freely.
Leave out pins. Take them as a memory...

We hope our further cooperation will bring you nothing but pleasant days.
Best regards,
IPA













OK hopefully this is useful to some of you. Now get out there and make the merc you want



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RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/15/2008 11:56:55 PM   
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Jejus man that is a lot of work you did there, nice one :)

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RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/16/2008 12:52:54 AM   
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This is simply the best info i have gotten!!!!!!!!!!! great man!!! till now i am having thoughts that the IPA is crap!

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RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/16/2008 4:58:30 AM   
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The IPA quiz is still crap. Having the "correct" answers only makes it marginally less annoying.

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RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/16/2008 5:12:47 AM   
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I have some questions regarding this skills we can choose from the IPA quiz for our created Merc:

1)How does each of this skills that we acquire actually have a direct impact on the game?

2)Can we acquire more skills later in the game with our Mercs or created Merc?

3)How do we check what kind of skills our Merc have other then in thier character description?Is there a character panels which shows?

4)Other then all those skills, does the phobia and attitude of the created Merc have any direct impact on the game?

< Message edited by MrLoadsOfQuestion -- 12/16/2008 5:15:24 AM >

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RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/16/2008 5:26:25 AM   
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  1. Depends on the skill. Some skills have little or no real impact in the game.
  2. I think the answer is no, unless there's some hidden feature in the game I haven't seen yet.
  3. You get 3 emails that tell you what your psych profile is, and what traits (if any) you're good at.
  4. Some traits (like "psychotic") do have an impact in the game.

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RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/16/2008 5:38:13 AM   
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1)What are the impact for the Martial Artist and Stealth Expert skills?

2)So there is no real way to check my character skills if i accidentally deleted the emails i got?

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RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/16/2008 5:44:26 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrLoadsOfQuestion
2)So there is no real way to check my character skills if i accidentally deleted the emails i got?

You are out of luck.

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RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/16/2008 7:01:35 AM   
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Thanks for all your hard work Skullguise!

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RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/16/2008 10:13:05 AM   
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Skullguise,

Thanks for you post! Much appreciated!

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShadoWarrior

  • Some traits (like "psychotic") do have an impact in the game.



  • ShadoWarrior,

    I suppose your character is psychotic? .

    Might I ask, what impact have you seen with this trait?

    I can only surmise that Attitude affects your interactions with NPC's ... eh?
    Do NPC's have their own attitude that could affect the outcome based on your attitude?



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    RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/16/2008 2:36:10 PM   
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    You suppose wrong. My character is normal, thank you very much. Five of the mercs that you can hire have the "psycho" trait. You can easily find out which ones by looking at Persons.xml.

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    RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/17/2008 2:03:13 AM   
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    Just curious im at the palace now but what good does the lockpick skill do for you?

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    RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/17/2008 10:40:00 AM   
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    If anyone notices an demonstrable effect from some of the subtler traits, like 'Claustrophobia' or 'Optimist', please be sure to make a note of it here.

    I suppose if your merc goes bananas whenever you enter a small room and shoots in burst mode that'd be good evidence of claustrophobia, but I'm just saying that as a possible example I haven't seen that behavior.

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    RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/24/2008 5:00:08 PM   
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    Unless I'm missing something, it doesn't seem like 2 gun fu was implemented, so ambidextrous would seem like another non useable one.

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    RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 12/4/2010 2:51:37 AM   
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    In addition to being a "Teacher" there is evidently some permutation that makes you a "Learner." I was trying to be a Teacher and that is how it turned out. I definitely answered Q2 = 1 and Q11 = 2, but I must have also answered one other one that caused it to change Teacher to Learner?
    1 = 1
    2 = 1
    3 = 2
    4 = 1
    5 = 2
    6 = 4
    7 = 4
    8 = 3
    9 = 2
    10 = 1
    11 = 2
    12 = 4
    13 = ? don't recall for certain
    14 = ? don't recall for certain
    15 = 3
    16 = 5

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    RE: [SPOILER] IPA Quiz Breakdown - Get the Merc You Wan... - 7/31/2016 2:07:30 PM   
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    Great!

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