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Lebensraum Mark II - an After Action Report - 2/28/2009 9:37:32 AM

Greyshaft

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I'm trying different things with the setup of the Lebensraum scenario to see if I can break it.

Here is the Italian scrapping form. When a scenario starts each player has the opportunity to scrap certain aircraft ie remove them from play and permanently shut down the production line for that model but scrapping units is a two edged sword. On one hand it allows you to remove obsolete aircraft from your inventory with the confidence that they will never darken your airfields again, but if you scrap too many units and you don't lose any units in combat then there may be too few units sitting in your Force Pool and you run the risk of being unable to maintain your gearing limit.

Gearing Limit restricts this turns builds to a maximum of units produced last turn plus one. So, for example, if you have no fighters available to build this turn then next turn's production limit for fighters drops to one. Therefore its a good idea to keep the aircraft factories (and shipyards and training camps etc) turning out a steady flow of units rather than concentrating on navy this turn and army the next turn.

Unfortunately Italy has such a pathetic production base that gearing limits are rarely a problem. I'm going to trash the following units:

CR32 Fighters - getting rid of these '3' factor units with their two nose-mounted .303 inch (7.7mm) machineguns will raise the average combat rating for my fighters
RE2001 Carrier Fighters - I scrap only half of the carrier fighters which keep the threat of an Italian carrier on the table. I don't think a Mare Nostrum for Italy is achievable in this lifetime but there's no need to hand the game to the Royal Navy yet.
CA133 Tactical Bombers - read the factors and weep. Did you know that in the pre-Dunkirk days of the war Britiain considered buying CA133 bombers from Italy - as if they didn't have enough problems of their own!

I like to hang on to the flying boats - if your desert campaign has even moderate success you can use the longer range boats to annoy the British in the Red Sea

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RE: Lebensraum Mark II - an After Action Report - 2/28/2009 10:50:17 AM

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CA133 Tactical Bombers - read the factors and weep. Did you know that in the pre-Dunkirk days of the war Britiain considered buying CA133 bombers from Italy - as if they didn't have enough problems of their own!

The factors are lame, but the white circled range makes me keep one of these generaly, if not both, because ATRs (which white circled range bombers are indeed) are invaluable in WiF FE.

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RE: Lebensraum Mark II - an After Action Report - 2/28/2009 6:16:12 PM

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with Italy I think I always scrap just about everything possible, with the same exception that Patrice mentioned. I do like the "Italian Stuka" (BA 65 LND-2) though, for a few random possibilities and definitely for rather absurd ASW work, but that is how the game works. And if Germany is really rolling the Piaggio (LND-4) is a great buy for things like bombing Baku.

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RE: Lebensraum Mark II - an After Action Report - 2/28/2009 9:39:37 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Froonp

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greyshaft

CA133 Tactical Bombers - read the factors and weep. Did you know that in the pre-Dunkirk days of the war Britiain considered buying CA133 bombers from Italy - as if they didn't have enough problems of their own!

The factors are lame, but the white circled range makes me keep one of these generaly, if not both, because ATRs (which white circled range bombers are indeed) are invaluable in WiF FE.

The SM81 Pipistrella ATR (which I keep) has another point of range over the CA133 and marginally better combat factors. The question then arises as to how many ATRs are needed by Italy and that's what makes WiF so interesting - everyone has a different strategy.

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... the Piaggio (LND-4) is a great buy for things like bombing Baku.

... and Gibraltar (July 1940 IIRC)

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RE: Lebensraum Mark II - an After Action Report - 2/28/2009 10:21:10 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Froonp

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greyshaft

CA133 Tactical Bombers - read the factors and weep. Did you know that in the pre-Dunkirk days of the war Britiain considered buying CA133 bombers from Italy - as if they didn't have enough problems of their own!

The factors are lame, but the white circled range makes me keep one of these generaly, if not both, because ATRs (which white circled range bombers are indeed) are invaluable in WiF FE.

Me, too...pretty worthless as bombers, but you can never have enough resupply capability in North Africa.

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RE: Lebensraum Mark II - an After Action Report - 3/1/2009 4:10:33 AM

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The Piaggio is always useful. The axis can always use another long range bomber. As Germany I almost always send everything I can to Italy, even at the cost of some german builds at times.

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