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Ok, I started it, so a couple tests:
I started STOCK scenario '44. All units in test are exp 45 to 50 or so. NO ALLIED CAP at all. What kind of hit rate can we get?
Against a group of Oilers; pretty fat target:
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/15/44
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Day Air attack on TF at 64,66
Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 10 destroyed
Allied Ships
AK Cape Martin
AK Cape Georgia
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Day Air attack on TF at 64,66
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 73
P1Y Frances x 33
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 73 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 33 destroyed
Allied Ships
AO Kaskaskia, Kamikaze hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AO Cimarron
AO Kennebago, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire
AO Guadalupe
AO Taluga
AO Caliente
AO Marias
AO Chikaskia, Kamikaze hits 1
AO Platte, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
AO Nantahala
AO Ashtabula
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Day Air attack on TF at 64,66
Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 3 destroyed
Allied Ships
AK Hibbing Victory
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Day Air attack on TF at 64,66
Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 10 destroyed
Allied Ships
AO Kaskaskia, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AO Kennebago, on fire
129 Kamis expended, 11 hits.....that is 8.5% hit rate against virtually no resistance
Test #2....what happens if they actually have FLAK, but no Cap?
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Day Air attack on TF at 63,67
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 15
D4Y Judy x 3
B6N Jill x 1
G4M2 Betty x 21
P1Y Frances x 40
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 15 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 3 destroyed
B6N Jill: 1 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 21 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 40 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Wasp, Kamikaze hits 1
CVL Cabot
CVL Monterey
CV Bunker Hill, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Biloxi
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Day Air attack on TF at 63,67
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 10
D4Y Judy x 3
B6N Jill x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 10 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 3 destroyed
B6N Jill: 4 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Wasp, Kamikaze hits 4, on fire
CVL Cabot, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Monterey, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF at 63,67
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
B6N Jill x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed
B6N Jill: 3 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Wasp, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 63,67
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 2
P1Y Frances x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 12 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Wasp, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Monterey, on fire
143 Kamis expended....13 hits, or 9%
Not sure how conclusive that is, that's all I have time for, but it is VERY difficult to recreate a 10% or 13% hit rate. I didn't even run the test with CAP, because we know how that will turn out.
The point I wanted to make is that I think the hit rate is too low; once you get through CAP and Flak, it's too low. Remove CAP, and it still doesn't reach historical. And, in the real war, the Allies did have CAP over their ships.
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