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RE: Allied CV's spotted - 3/23/2010 12:54:22 PM

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China sees another withdraw of the Changsa offensive as the enemy cant penetrate the city lines due to heavy bombardment,
in the meantime the Japanese mayor offensive on Homan is only a few days away. Bombardments have been going on for a week and the
groundbombardments have started again as well.

in India a not very succesfull airstrike gets some runway hits, in combination with some airplane hits.

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Day Air attack on Madras

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
G3M Nell x 73
G4M1 Betty x 39
Ki-49 Helen x 7

Allied aircraft
Lysander I x 3
Brewster 339D x 6
Buffalo I x 9
Hurricane II x 14
Blenheim IF x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 15 destroyed, 2 damaged
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Lysander I: 3 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 4 destroyed
Buffalo I: 5 destroyed
Hurricane II: 10 destroyed
Blenheim IF: 3 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 26

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The fleet has finished unloading about 1/3 of the landing force, so far without any interruption from the Allied airforce
(as you might notice, about half of the zero's are over trivandium, this is likely to be the reason for the average results over madras)

the Carrier force didn't finish replenishing, not entirely sure why, but they are now heading NW together with their replenishment TF, hopefully to be done in one or 2 days to start the rush north. This is where the enemy CV TF is at. With the constant losses of fighter planes over Madras by now it should be a fair game for my expierenced KB pilots

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a long road ahead!! - 3/28/2010 1:04:24 PM

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Some of the highlights of today;

Shokaku makes port without further activity, her floatation drops 5 points instantly!!

another TF of 7 transports is seen headed west of johnston isl. I'm setting some nell's to intercept them at long range,
but it could also be a CAP trap, not sure what to think of them, but i've had it with those ships sailing witout being attacked!

India sees another sweep attack by zero's today however we fail to achieve a 1:1 ratio... losing 14 to 12 fighters..
this is probably the last sweep executed, since im running low in zero's (can't replenish the sq's atm because of a delayed supply transport to trincomalee, this will take about a week). XP is still good, but once new pilots are assigned this'll drop fast i'd say.

I'll keep bombing Madras, but only in escorting functions, no more plane hunting untill we are fit for it. Targeted tomorrow will be the port, since there are 3 SS sighted inside it, this should be a fun exercise.

KB hasnt replenished yet, theyre moving west, and remain unspotted during the day, its likely that they are out of range of any planes, and thus will stay unsighted until they will engage the cv's. Theres a large airforce activity in Bombay, probably mostly bombers, but still nothing im willing to get into in combination with the allied cv's (when madras has fallen we will be ready to start bombing Bombay, until then it remains a no-fly zone)

The land combat units are dealth up in 2 groups, the forward group, containing mostly armoured units, for a fast assault
and the main army, consisting of the divisions, Bde's, art & eng units, to finish the bigger pockets in the enemy lines.

Besides that i'm going to keep dropping para's on every place i see fit for it, this means that the para's will likely be decimated, but it'll also keep the allies moving/reacting to the little annoyance i'm creating there. (like cutting off the retreat route of the madras' units in the east).

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RE: a long road ahead!! - 4/9/2010 12:38:31 PM

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within 2 days Trivandium is turned into a lvl 2 airfield, if this proceeds this way we will start flying the Trincomalee air HQ to Triv,
as soon as we have the mayority over there the fighters force will move to Triv (this should solve the supply problem that blocks replenishment of the fighter squadrons),
and start LRCAP over KB, we'll see who has most land based aircraft to rumble across the waters.

The armoured part of the landing will finish unloading tomorow and move out towards Bangalore,
a small NLF unit is moving out to mannargudi. The main army will remain unloading for several days..

Long range search spotted a TF moving south at the map border near KB, needless to say KB will move in to intercept, after doing so we will have to start
getting some fuel in, because replenishment is hard needed by now

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RE: a long road ahead!! - 4/9/2010 3:23:25 PM

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An idea of what could be this TF you spotted ? The trapped Royal Navy ??

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RE: a long road ahead!! - 4/9/2010 8:23:56 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: gladiatt

An idea of what could be this TF you spotted ? The trapped Royal Navy ??

the sighting report gives away that it is composed of AP & ML, heading south, so it's likely to be a replenishment TF,
with a little luck it's loaded with some base forces or something to boost the Airforce in the pacific (i believe they are lacking aviation over there atm?)

but it could just as well be a couple of empty transports

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RE: a long road ahead!! - 4/18/2010 5:37:26 PM

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some exiting news at last!

we are seeing some nice twists from both sides here

The transport force KB was sent to intercept was larger than the initial scouting reports revealed.
After the initial attack 8 transports and 3 ML are hit and likely to sink. The TF scattered a day before and is picked of one by one!
I'm expecting to sink another 10 transports in the seas, the screeny will show more;

Because KB is slow with Kaga at speed 18 she cant make it back to Trivandium to protect the landing force of India,
therefor KB will hunt the allied transports for another day.

I'm expecting the allied taskforce to hover where it is now, supplying air support for a smaller force that will race to the port to engage the transports.
despite the fact that several heavy cruisers and a BB have remained with the transports i will not be making this gamble.
The transports will retreat south, under aircover from Trincomalee.

At the moment about 3.700 AV has been landed, most of the arm. units are on the move to their first target, Bangalore.
most southern cities now hold only small garrisons, composed of 2 units. so the march to the North will be fast. The question will be how many units from the east are going to be disrupting this plan.

the Burma situation as shown below is steady and waiting for reinforcements;

Port moresby falls with the first assault in a 8:1 result, troops retreating towards Buna (or Buin??) i will be dropping a NLF there with fast transport and then destroy the PM defence force in the Jungle.

Homan
Tomorrow will see the first heavy attack, only 1 eng reg is there atm, 3 more coming in, so i'm not sure if we will have good results from this allready.

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RE: a long road ahead!! - 4/20/2010 10:28:08 AM

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How differnt stock plays to CHS, and to AE -like another world!

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RE: a long road ahead!! - 4/20/2010 11:33:07 AM

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never played any of the mods, from what i know the roadsystems are allready a big change,
having a different approach route can make a lot of difference.

choosing/selecting other units/ships to produce, and having different air warfare systems are something i cant really put in place, but those will also have some real impact i can imagine!

and on AE .. well thats a whole other story

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RE: Allied CV's spotted - 4/25/2010 2:17:08 PM

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The Allied CVs moved upon the landing beach, but havent flown a single sortie against the fleet, since the fleet left port in the break of dawn, im expecting that there was suposed to be a port attack, canceled because of a lack of targets.

The main carrier group makes a run south-east, whithout attacking the fleeing transports.
The cv's are fully focussing on LRCAP over the landing force, staying out of striking range themselves.
Some of the CV escorts (2 CA,2 CL,4 DD) are ordered to destroy all the fleeing transports to the south.
Kaga returns south, to rendevouz with the main group in 1 or 2 days.

I'm expecting that the allied cv's try a breaktrough for clear water, so a southern intercept is what were aiming for,
this would be the first chance to really get textbook CV attack. Disrupting the CV's CAP with land based fighters, only to engage with a large CV force that will break trough the remaining CAP.

the land based fighters have a hard time in handleing themselves, mostly because the high XP fighters are on LRCAP over my transports, if a sortie would be flown against these i'd expect a identical massacre of allied bombers. this however doesnt happen..

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Day Air attack on TF at 13,19

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
G3M Nell x 13
G4M1 Betty x 12
Ki-21 Sally x 6
Ki-49 Helen x 3

Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 22
F4F-4 Wildcat x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 19 destroyed
G3M Nell: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 4 destroyed
Ki-49 Helen: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 15 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Lexington
CV Indomitable
CV Enterprise
CA Portland

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
1 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 13,19

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 17
F4F-4 Wildcat x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 10 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

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Shokaku's flotation is down to 4, tomorow she will leave port with a main contingent of the Southeast fleet
(composed of Mutsu, 4 CA, 10 CL, and numerous DD + the escort carriers)

The carriers will all depart for India, because i am starting to doubt the chances of getting out of a full confrontation without losing cv's myself. If the main western CV group is lost the landings sites will be isolated and constantly threatened by the Allied airforce.

Shokaku and Kaga are in for some heavy R&R and i will try to start rotating the cv's towards the home islands once the shorelines are secured over a large enough area to prevent airstrikes.

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RE: Allied CV's spotted - 4/25/2010 2:26:21 PM

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A day without anything serious happening..

Trivandium is bombarded by 3 BB, causing 90 casualties, these BB's retreat north again and the CV's also are in their starting position.
It's unclear if the CV's will remain for another run, or if they will retire north. KB will regroup and replenish to the west of their position (unseen)
during this manouvre the land based fighters will get reinforcements and recover to full strength (XP will likely drop withing several squadrons since they lost a lot of airframes over the last week)

The CA group hunting the transports sink 4 and several others are scouted for folow up attacks

The rest of the world is covered in bad weather....

Engeneering units on their way to Homan will arive in about 4 days, disruption is high amongst most inf. Div in Homan, so we'll have to wait a couple more days before another attack can be made. expecting to drop forts to 6 or 5 upon this attack.

PRODUCTION
i was looking at my pools and i found that my SNLF squads are running low;
1700 used, 90 in pool, this sounds bad?? i increased some armament factories, but i'm unsure if this is the solution to this problem.

does anyone know if its really so bad, and if i did the right thing here???

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RE: Allied CV's spotted - 4/26/2010 1:32:06 PM

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hi flaggelant. how is your supply situation in india?

as japanese player, i invaded india in february 1942 and went pretts fast to bombay and captured the city so i had nearly all bases south of ahmadabad in my hand. i brought 300.000 supply and captured 380.000 more in bombay but after just one week, all this supply was gone! so i had give up the game because supply depots in india were totaly empty after just one week eat up 680.000 supply!

same situation in china. i pumped 40.000 supply every week from japan but all troops there were at 50% supply all the time.

just curious how your overal supply situation is.

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RE: Allied CV's spotted - 4/27/2010 11:45:41 AM

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hmmm sounds strange.. but i'm running rather low in supply on most fronts (except gilberts/wake/ midway) i brought about 50K supply with the initial assault and got some 30K in folow up, i dont HAVE 300.000 supply to transport anywhere, so i dont know how you come by those numbers? (i'm playing stock, dunno if you'r running a mod, with altered supply situations??)

with my fleet departing before finishing unloading only about 1/3 of the supply is unloaded (troops unload first), the supply situation isn't alarming by the numbers, but im not sure if its going to change fast after we start battling, instead of just running around a bit.

The only thing i could think of that might cause a mayor supply shortage is my industry not functioning properly (still havent finished all plane/engine upgrades, also because of supply situation i'd say). but i dont think its as bad as you're sketching (which would mean a total collapse of my war effort in, i guess, about 2 months ??)

havent used tracker in a while, but i havent seen any of the mayor industry sites running low in recourse/ oil, will run a check on this asap, because this is making me a bit nervous!?!

so the question would be is it a mod that makes this difference, or is my industry doing really bad..?

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RE: Allied CV's spotted - 5/2/2010 10:09:44 PM

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havent come around to check on the supply situation, but i reorganised some TF's to head for India just in case

In the meantime i found out what the TF's near johnston were doing, several task forces showed up some 2 to 3 days out of Wake,
it looks like an invasion force, but by the sightings there are no real escorts.

150 Bombers are gathered on all fields in strike range (Midway and Wotje both hold some small sq. whilst the main force will strike from wake itself)
i upgraded the Midway cap as well, since im expecting a strike from the B17's to dent my attack.

Wake is at airfield lvl3 (so no torpedoes, but itssomewhere around 37% to lvl 4) and has plenty of supplies.

On the Indian frontier the CV's have gathered to finally do some replenishment, and the allied cv's are retiring north. My invasion TF is 2 days out of Triv, so everything will be rolling as it was before very soon, with the exception that Trivandium rocketed into a lvl 4 airfield and now can support torpedo bombers, of which we will gladly make use

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Wake invasion force - 5/3/2010 11:24:13 PM

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The situatin around Wake looks slightly different from what was assumed

our primary airstrikes go in in small packs, highly motivated and with high hopes,
after the first planes are launched however the small surface fleet detached from our transport force is attacked by airplanes! some strange form of luck makes the light cruiser come out of the attack unharmed, but 1 PG being struck with 2 torpedoes. The taskforce reaches within 60 miles of the landing force, time will tell if their luck will continue

it seems that there are 2 American CV's escorting the landing, packing a lot more force than initially anticipated,
many Japanese bombers are downed, as the light escorts are easily discarded...

for the loss of about 50 planes we manage to down 18 allied fighters..
now it will be coming down to the numbers, the AV was raised from 135 to 170, expected to hit 200 tomorow.
the allied fleet is uncovering a heavy escort, but only a low number of transports, very likely not enough to take an atoll with 200 AV stowed in every corner. Forts are only at 1 so i'm expecting some heavy damage from bombardment missions..

all incoming task forces are rerouted to the west, where mini KB will regroup with Shokaku, to engage IF the battle holds long enough.

The indian landing force moves to the shores uninterupted, with KB within some 200 miles going unspotted, finally KB manages to replenish fully!

Homan is being bombarded for several days now, the engeneer units are 60 miles out of the city, their arrival will sign in the start of the great attack on the Chinese lines.

Soerabaja also sees the arival of an engeneering unit, which will initiate the attack immidiatly

for now however all eyes go out to wake, where the allies seem to try their first real counter manouvre!

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RE: Wake invasion force - 5/16/2010 11:32:14 PM

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Wake turns into a disaster..

over 150 planes are lost during the operation, with only one hit reported on a transport, without their torpedoes the nells and betties are of no use when it comes to attacking anything.

The folowing landings, escorted by 2 bombardment missions show around 500 assault value landing, including a coastal gunnery reg. several eng reg and some infantry.
these easily whipe out the garrison, which only defends to the strength of around 50 AV after bombardment missions are done.
51 nav guard and 2 base forces will perish on wake, most other units have fragments on either midway or in the gilbert islands.

I�ve started gathering an army to counter on Wake,
withing 14 days a group of units up to 400 AV will arrive
around 200 AV is allready in the home islands (including a released eng reg.)
and another 600 AV + a HQ is redirected from southern China.

With around 1200 AV and a long bombing campaign we should be able to retake wake, however the allies will very likely be expecting this move, so a big battle will be developing here. the carriers of mini KB are on the move, but will very likely miss all action, if the allies are smart and retire now that wake is taken. The allied cv�s havent replenished at wake, so their plane lvl is still a bit lowered, which gives me an advanatage over them.

a further mayor point in my WITP career+ I�ve halted all airframe and engine production, with everything being in pool (except for emily�s which are the only plane staying in production) i think that a quick supply push towards India over the next 2 weeks wont harm the war effort but will be hard needed to keep my army moving.

In the Gilberts another transport group with heavy escorts makes way towards the west, its possible that these might attack the gilberts under the assumption that my bombers are in the north, attacking wake. most bombers however wont be flying against cap missions, so they are resting in the gilberts, a target practice would be good for morale here.
(even if they dont land, the TF comes within striking range for 2 / 3 days, so we will see if Tarawa at lvl 4 will compensate for wakes failure).

During the last day of the wake invasion 90 B-17 bomb Midway, however after the failed naval attack the zero's in Midway were expecting this attack, 12 B-17 wont return (of which 4 due to ops losses) for the loss of as many zero's (half lost on the ground). sounds like a good deal to me, at this rate the B-17's will be disrupted beyond flying within days.

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RE: Wake invasion force - 5/24/2010 8:55:55 PM

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The next couple of days turn into an anti-climax, as the japanese muster forces for a counter offensive in the pacific at wake
and are on the road in India, knocking on the door in both Madras and bangalore (both but lightly garrisoned, with some delaying tactics with units on the railroads in front of the cities)

The long wanted supplies finally arrive and all fighter squadrons in India are replenished.

Mini KB is en route to Shokaku, who is about to link up with Zuikaku, the entire group is about 2 days out of striking range, linking up tomorow will initiate the first airfield bombardments from marcus. a first flight was succesfull (45 zero's + 50 nell/betty) downing about 20 fighters. More aircraft will be sent to marcus to heat up the battle over wake.
a lot of planes are to be destroyed before mini KB will be safe to engage.

in Homan forts are reduced to 6, but disrubtion is in the 70's for most units (lsot 7 K troops for 3.5 K chinese, sounds pretty ok for a large fort), the battle now turns towards the flanks where both armies have several units to clobber eachother, a massed bombing raid south of Homan is to breach these lines.

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