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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 5/22/2009 11:32:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Quick update before the weekend. Talked about score and Tim is 4K points ahead. But only a ration of 1:1.13 or so. Auto victory is definitely hard against a human is my conclusion.

Carriers passing N of Borneo in South China sea heading to refuel at Batavia. Looked at tracker and noticed BB Heie is upgradeable to AArating of over 1000. Thought about docking at Singapore or Soerabaja but the air and enemy carrier threat is too great. Will backtrack to Manila with BB Heie the level 7 damage CV and any other upgradeable ships (I think the CA's have reached one). The CVE ACTF and another with 2 CV's will continue on heading through the straits into the IO. There are two rep TF following.

Today I considered gathering 4-6 Div and counter invading Padang (Really long shot at best). Or fortifying Soerabaja land - southern Borneo. I think I have settled on Southern Philippines. I can land new Divisions and trans the Ind Bde's farther out on the front lines from Davao/Tarakan/Jolo. 3 new Div arrived on Home islands and I should have the PP to change (8K now).

4-6 Turns ago I turned my mass of troops around in N China. I was trying to march up the dirt roads westof the next objective. Taking too long and wearing them out. Right now I am bombarding the hex and the defenders are only 2K plus AV. I can get 5K there to attack. Would prefer 5 to 1 odds but I should do OK just take longer. Not sure of the name of the place but I am after the city hex farther North with resources, manpower, and heavy industry. Too far to walk everyone out
anyplace else!

Tracker noted oil is short at Bangkok, Saigon, Camranh Bay. Will try to sneak some in. Home islands only short Resources 1-2 hundred in a few spots. More coming in. Surprised how much I am still getting home without using Padang. Even barely snuck some out of Cam Rahn Bay, AK's 1/3 loaded. Got them to Manila to unload but decided to fill them out and send home. Another 40K for me, if I can get through the subbies.

Last note, short TB's. B7A is out but too few. Lots of older DB still. Air losses are over double what the Allies are so far. Tens of thousands or something. Will be rebuilding some kinda airforce, maybe!!!

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 5/22/2009 11:32:55 PM   
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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 5/23/2009 12:40:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some screenies for Tim before the next turn My Carriers.




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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 5/23/2009 12:42:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		The next base to fall??? Or will the forts help me hold. LBA has started pounding HARD.




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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 5/23/2009 12:43:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Troops at base. Still trying to fly in more, however he has put up a LRCAP that is intercepting now.




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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 5/23/2009 12:44:55 PM   
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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 5/23/2009 12:45:47 PM   
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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 5/23/2009 12:47:15 PM   
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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 5/23/2009 12:48:28 PM   
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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 5/23/2009 3:27:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		It looks like your supply of highly experienced pilots are running out too quick. Beating your head against those Hellcats is not helping matters either.  You are getting to the point that you have to focus on getting as much oil and resources you can back to the home islands from underneath his LBA.

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 5/23/2009 11:44:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good advice NY. Just got hit by B-25's out of Padang, that brought the point home. Still getting resources from Tarakan for the time being.

I do not plan on launching any types of attacks against carrier CAP for the duration if I can help it.

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 5/31/2009 4:39:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Carriers stuck in Indian Ocean. Cannot bring back through straits with US carriers close by south Borneo. One repln TF with fuel there with them (TF1). CV Aso in Tokyo 1115 AAA. 5in rockets! Hope they work. Next carrier 15 days out. The air groups are in the 50's exp.

Mounted an air attack from Kendari 3-4 days ago. Not big enough to hit anything. Was trying to hit the unescorted convoys at Makassar. Flew in 2 Kami groups that were at airbases within 9 hexes so they would not have to wait a day to attack. Also the most exp fighter unit from Balikpapan. Two attacks made it through the CAP but no hits on ships. (datails prob in Vettims AAR). The airfield is now wrecked again from 3 days of 4e bomber attacks. There are now 80+ P-38 flying out of Makassar so I pretty much lost that chance. Might have been better off to take 2-3 days to load up the base more before launching strikes but recon is daily so who knows.

Units in China finally making it back down the trails to Sian and moving up the good roads north. Moving FB to Sian to attack and thus train up.

Cannot believe how much freedom of movement Allies have anywhere. Do not remember KB putting up that good of CAP. Is this what Tim put up with the first year of gametime?

Trying to move fighter units with under 50 exp back farther to train up. too many P-38 around. Getting hard to place them. All bases full of air units but all units low exp.

Tarakan down to 300 resource. A TK convoy coming in to suck up the oil prior to heavy bombing. 3-4 convoys due in to Japan in the next week with raw materials. Not much left anywhere except Saigon and Bangkok which are no-go zones due to LBA.

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 6/1/2009 11:32:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK do not like carriers feeling trapped in IO. Refueled and heading for straits N of Batavia. Loaded up Batavia with fighters and attack AC. Ditto Kuching and nearby bases with any air support. US carriers have AO in their hex so may not leave area soon enough. Will hit full speed when passing straits and head north of Borneo, try to make Manila. I put all the air units on a range of only 5-6 so I hope they will not launch unless the US carriers react. Maybe I will get lucky again and only one group will react, doubt it! If I loose these 3 Carriers I will be down to 2 in Japan with one more coming out this month. Whooeee, at least ther is a chance I will survive.

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 6/2/2009 2:24:23 AM   
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Will hit full speed when passing straits and head north of Borneo, try to make Manila. I put all the air units on a range of only 5-6 so I hope they will not launch unless the US carriers react.


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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 6/2/2009 9:30:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am thinking the Repln TF should hide for awhile on the other side of the straits. No use loosing TF1 if the carriers get it. There was an Allied convoy in the area two weeks ago, long gone now. Or my glen boats just cannot detect jack.

Actually I may be lucky to get through the straits without taking bombs from LBA at Padang. But the real selling point is there is an Allied airbase being built on the south shore of Borneo. Everything will be cut-off west of Brunei after that is my thinking.

Every airfield in the Philippines is full, of level 30's-50's aircraft only.

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 6/3/2009 12:14:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Plan B; If Balikpapan is undamaged (think it is being bombed currently) and all attack aircraft are within 9 range of it, Soerabaja, and Malang, move all aircraft to these bases. Attack carriers with 200-300 aircraft. Should get one or two hits on something. Chase away his carriers or damage them prior to base being functional and having huge CAP. Then Carriers and Repln TF can run like hell for Manila. What happens when I get the next turn will settle it. He may know where my TF are all along. I do not see them displayed during the combat replays so I am hoping that means they have not been spotted.

Once again feel like a chance is there to attack, once again feel I may be greatly disappointed by the results (this has been happening with greater frequency, esp since we hit 1944). Oh well, only a game and my first PBEM.

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 6/4/2009 1:11:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Made it through the straits after 2 sub attacks. Went hell bent for Kuching area. US carriers showed up approx 2 hexes east of Batavia. Both US and IJN carriers were spotted by aircraft, both were under cloud icons. I tensely waited for doom, no doom. Neither ACTF launched strikes. None of my bases either. So I still have all my AC! Took any base fighters off long range CAP and put back on escort 0 CAP (everybody strike). Now will he pursue north of Borneo? Singapore is empty and damaged currently. Nothing much to attack him on N Borneo. I might be lucky and he withdraws his carriers. I might have to run all the way to Manila.

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 6/4/2009 8:49:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gotta admit, this makes for pretty tense reading on either side. You'll pardon me if I was hoping for a little more action -- but congratulations on preserving your AC!

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 6/5/2009 12:54:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Preserving the AC remark was meant for mostly the LBA, IE they did not strike on their own and get slaughtered before the naval action happens.

He caught up with me the next day. Kuching centered south between us after his react moves, all 3 of his carrier TF reacted. I was thinking a good move would of been to go back out through the straits and have him chase me through two minefields at the bases there. Or go SE to attack shipping at Banjarmasin while his CV's are away. Alternate plans always look good when the one I take goes sour.

I did launch strikes before sinking, 100's of strike AC down, nothing penetrated CAP. Maybe I should have put my fighters on escort zero CAP to try and get a hit on the enemy, not going to stop much of 3 CV tf's launching anyway. May be my new plan for the next KB. All range 8 fighters to go with the newer long range strike AC. Never get close enough for him to hit me (good luck with that eh!)

Amagi sank same day, another scuttled, one has 50% power should get hit next turn. Note: Land based Liberators planted a few penetrating 500lb hits on carriers. All my CVE's came through! For now.

Did not keep good notes, Vettim should be posting details tonight. Sent higher exp Betties, Sallies, and fighters to Manado, Weda, and Morotai. Another group of CV + trans covoys a day off abm.. (base that starts with an A, has oil, NE of Darwin).

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 6/5/2009 11:38:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		OMG!!! I have got to be the worst PBEM opponent ever. The Allied carrier TF were in a Borneo coastal hex 5 hexes from over 200 planes at Batavia. For some reason I set all naval attack aircraft on range of 4. I am beating myself up! They even split into 2 groups. A kami group from another base set on range 6 did launch strikes at the single TF group. It only had a CAP of 63 fighters, nothing got through. I am imagining I would have hit something in the 2 TF group closer and in a coastal hex.

Well everything has moved to Malang, Soerabaja, Bali, and Balikpapan. Each base has fighters, exp 50's - 60's. Going to hit something tomorrow!

Not too bad results from Morotai and Monado. Half a dozen torpedo hits on Allied CA's. The Flak was Really heavy. Must be radar and 44 upgrades to AAA. Smaller strikes tomorrow hopefully before the bases get leveled by 4E bombers.

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 6/10/2009 3:17:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Aircraft being evacuated from Weda, Morotai, and Manado to Davao and Palau. Bases under heavy $E attack. Well hit a few ships for the loss of many pilots. US carriers a day or so away from adding their CAP anyway.

Borneo seems pretty completely cut-off by air now. Only place left to get resources safely is the PI, and not enough there for me. Japan cities reporting high shortages of oil, 3-4 convoys due in the next week. Resources not too bad 2-3 convoys arriving.

Getting supplies out to bases, esp Davao down to 9K. So many airfields full of training and repairing air units. Going to move some to China and Manchuria to just get out of the way.

Aleutians are looking awfully close recently. Have been trying to beef-up Northern area land and air forces.

Big news is my damaged carrier made it to Manila. No fuel there but hopefully will recover all flotation damage before it gets bombed by B-29's. Oops I better put some planes on CAP vice training. The DD escorting her got torped one day out. Yikes, that was close.

More sreenies for Tim later

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 6/10/2009 4:28:27 PM   
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Big news is my damaged carrier made it to Manila. No fuel there but hopefully will recover all flotation damage before it gets bombed by B-29's. Oops I better put some planes on CAP vice training. The DD escorting her got torped one day out. Yikes, that was close.


Don't forget you get the benefits of the port even if they are just tied up to the dock vs disbanded in the port. I learned that the hard way at Manila with my subs in one game. He might go for the port vs naval attack and unless they are close to sinking condition (with the notorious Japanese damage control that would be anything over 50 floatation ), I would keep them in a TF.

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 6/26/2009 3:33:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Back from vacation with family, game time. Got tracker loaded on the new machine. Seen this screen on someone else's post so I thought I would take a look at mine. Theirs looked a LOT better.

Having an issue with turns outta sink so no new turn till tomorrow again. TRy and get some screen shots for Tim this week. Thinking of taking new carriers "carefully" out towards Aleutians to find lone convoy. Will send all subs ahead.




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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 6/27/2009 3:44:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Second strike this day, first one was better. Will try to save all my future Kamis for bigger targets, they hit barges too often.

Do not know where the CAP was but I am sure Tim will be severely disappointed.




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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 7/1/2009 6:03:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Quick update while I am cooking lunch for kids. 2 weeks vacation over switched to new CPU and finally got tracker back up. Looked at alerts to check for resource shortages and could only find one city short about 260. However oil is short everywhere, only 100 or so at each place. Can only really get oil safely at Brunei and Tarakan, and not that safe. Singapore, Bangkok, and Saigon all need oil. Will try to sneak in a single tanker soon. Lots of oil under allied air farther west!

Fighter production pretty good except I ran low on Mitsubishi engines somehow. Pool is up to 8 or 10 now, Nakajima over 1000 in pool. Lots of fuel and supplies in home islands being shipped out, not much oil and resources coming in for the near future.

Did just get a 72 plane A6M5 unit with all 60-70 exp pilots. How that happened I'll never know, sending to Palau to provide CAP be ready to redeploy to southern PI as needed.

Moved 150 Fighters to Peking to train up bombing lone base 4 hexes NW. Maybe out of B-24 range???

It is May 23 1944 in game, waiting for June for ship updates to form CVTF again. And ships to repair. Only one CV outside home islands, just left Legaspi after much needed fuel. Sank one sub nearby so there may temporarily be a hole in the net, Here I Go!

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 7/7/2009 5:41:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		May 31 1944. Not enough fighters at Davao, Jolo OK. Plenty of good exp strike AC in the area. And an enemy convoy heading up the coast near Kendari. Ahhh, Kendari, good airfield, plenty of supplies and engineers to repair. Also in close proximity to like a thousand enemy fighters (and almost the same number 4E bombers). Torn between setting back air power 3-6 months by launching massive strikes from there or keeping back. Just got a thought, Kamikazes only! Will have to give that a try.

Giving up on assault in N China. 2 attacks and no drop in forts. Will move on central China soon as I can reposition troops. Think I see an opening with good roads.

Almost no air on Malay peninsula, and Tim hitting resource centers. No matter, cannot ship resources out with no adequate air cover. Good air levels at Batavia only.

Pacific is being resupplied by convoys and training aircraft. Good levels of all types there. May never be enough for defeating massive carrier TF. May never happen if Tim reaches PI. Still expecting strike on Marcus. Although Aleutians is more likely now.

For now repairing a carrier at Tokyo, down to 12 sys damage. When repaired will have 3 CV with 3 BB and plenty of DD cruiser escorts. Expect to sortie in June. The weak point will again be pilot exp there.

The only attacks I see launching in the next few days are by air near Kendari.

2 TF with oil and resource due in to home islands in days. One leaving Brunei now with 36K oil. One detoured away from Tarakan due to insufficient air cover, heading for Miri where there is 36K oil. Subs EVERYWHERE! But I am getting some hits on them from my aircraft.

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 7/11/2009 12:40:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK, June 44 is here. Good news, lotsa destroyers upgraded, Bad news, now I have no destroyers under 8-10 damage to deploy. And an escorted AP TF has shown up in the Aleutians. A TF with a DIV headed for PI just turned for Sapporo. The Div there with Northern area HQ is embarking for Paramu whatever Jima. No strikes from my Nells or Francis at Attu.

A strike launched from Soerabaja, Only one bomb hit on a CVE. Not enough fighters for all AC to launch strikes. None of the AC at Malang launched (no fighters there), and they were the higher exp.

Fighters in China training up, should have been doing that for the last 12 months. I know Vettim considers it gamey training fighter pilots using ground attack. Myself I thought it was the norm for this game. Only option I really have available so I am glad to take it.

Especially since the big news is, I HAVE FRANKS! 200 + production a month right now (10 in pool). Waiting for the 200 Tojo at Gumma to switch over. Then I am going to use up some supply to switch Franka to RD Frankc. It would be cool to get Frankc in Oct already.

From the last attempt at an air attack I am going to need 200 fighter escorts minimum to bomb any TF. Even with CVE's only. I think attacking Allied CVTF will just be a wasteful war of attrition on my part anymore, but I am sure I will try anyway.

CV at Tokyo down to 12 sys damage, sent all destroyers out to repair elsewhere, get my CV up!

Want to run tracker again and put up some production stats but all my free time just gets used doing one turn a day. Kudos to all those who can play and keep an AAR.

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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 7/11/2009 10:29:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Got home from work and no turn so had time to run tracker. Here is some of what I found;

My pilots are getting better already. Moving a big air support unit from kwangtung area to Peking to train more




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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 7/11/2009 10:32:27 PM   
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RE: GreasyLake Vs Vettim89, The Japan side - 7/11/2009 10:34:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I need oil, but not too bad yet I think. Will have to put a bunch of fighters at Palembang to pull some out. June may be my last chance for that. If it is even possible with Carriers down around Timor maybe.




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