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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 8:08:03 PM   
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What's wrong with Thin Red Line? I kinda liked it; so much so I own it on DVD


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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 8:18:20 PM   
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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 8:20:40 PM   
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Yeah I like TRL also - but I've realized over the years that I pretty much like everything Hans Zimmer does - me being a music guy at heart. But I accept that 99% of folks hate TRL. I'll allow them to hate it - if they will allow me to like it!




Well... OK fine go ahead.


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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 8:35:29 PM   
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Yeah I like TRL also - but I've realized over the years that I pretty much like everything Hans Zimmer does - me being a music guy at heart. But I accept that 99% of folks hate TRL. I'll allow them to hate it - if they will allow me to like it!



If your allowed to like Thin Red Line then I will say Pearl Harbor is a wonderful made historical movie.

/April Fools.

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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 8:36:58 PM   
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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 9:19:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pearl Harbor was a classic.

Who can forget the "run down the trench" tactic documented in the movie. I'm shocked that Kaigun, Sunburst or Shattered Sword didn't cover that technique.

It also demonstrated how much quickly we would have won the war had Ben Afleck been alive back then. We don't need no stinkin Corsairs......we got Afleck.

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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 9:53:41 PM   
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Possible the worst line ever in the entire history of film.

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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 9:57:10 PM   
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I didn't specify that, Leo. I hated the whole film, from start to finish; every single aspect of it was repugnant.


I don't know... the "Thin Red Line" was very fascinating movie... it had something different and special about itself...

#1
The cinematography is superb

#2
The actions scenes are top notch

#3
There is aspect that all other war (action) movies miss - inner thoughts / feelings of a character...


IMHO the "Thin Red Line" movie by Mallick is, for me, closer to what I felt when I read the book (and other similar books made after WWII - for example "Naked and the Dead") !


Leo "Apollo11"


I don't think of TRL as a war movie. It was an ART movie. Only way I could watch it...

HATED it otherwise...


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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 9:57:25 PM   
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"If all Americans are like you...God help anyone who declares war on America."

Possible the worst line ever in the entire history of film.


Help me out please - what film, character, and situation was that from?

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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 10:02:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Going from memory (obviously I could only watch it once), but it's a remark to Affleck's character by an RAF Squadron Leader or Wing Commander.


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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 10:32:39 PM   
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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 11:33:31 PM   
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Thank Goodness...



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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 11:41:15 PM   
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That is all.

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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/26/2009 11:50:08 PM   
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"If all Americans are like you...God help anyone who declares war on America."

Possible the worst line ever in the entire history of film.


Even worse than John Wayne's quote in "The Green Berets"?

"That man needs attention...."



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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 1:01:06 AM   
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Careful, show some respect for The Duke.  Remember that John Wayne, Randolph Scott, Errol Flynn, Tyronne Power, Clark Gable amongst others really won the war according to Hollywood.  Oh yeah and an actor later on named Audie Murphy, a little guy who didn't look the part of a hero. 


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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 1:03:24 AM   
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The Duke rocks!

but even I had to cringe at that scene.

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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 1:04:43 AM   
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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 1:07:25 AM   
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"I'll show you the land of the Iron Crosses" or maybe "I'll show you the land where the Iron Crosses are...."

(been a long time since i saw it)





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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 1:09:21 AM   
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Anyone else here seen 'Cross of Iron' ? Peckinpah on the eastern front (the Kuban to be precise)... marvelllous stuff.



Yep, I really like it. Sort of gritty. I hardly ever see it on.

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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 1:20:24 AM   
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Anyone else here seen 'Cross of Iron' ? Peckinpah on the eastern front (the Kuban to be precise)... marvelllous stuff.



Yep, I really like it. Sort of gritty. I hardly ever see it on.



James Coburn's portrayal of Sgt Steiner, the grizzled cynical veteran was memorably good. As was James Mason's of the CO.

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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 1:32:15 AM   
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Careful, show some respect for The Duke.  Remember that John Wayne, Randolph Scott, Errol Flynn, Tyronne Power, Clark Gable amongst others really won the war according to Hollywood.  Oh yeah and an actor later on named Audie Murphy, a little guy who didn't look the part of a hero. 



Remember Audie Murphie was a war hero. He was awarded the Medal of Honor. He only became an actor when he could not stay in the Army due to his war wounds.

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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 1:33:53 AM   
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Anyone else here seen 'Cross of Iron' ? Peckinpah on the eastern front (the Kuban to be precise)... marvelllous stuff.



Yep, I really like it. Sort of gritty. I hardly ever see it on.



James Coburn's portrayal of Sgt Steiner, the grizzled cynical veteran was memorably good. As was James Mason's of the CO.


I liked James Coburn as the company commander in "What Did you do in the War Daddy"

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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 1:54:23 AM   
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I liked James Coburn as the company commander in "What Did you do in the War Daddy"



Was that the one where he and the Italian commander in Sicily did a deal where the troops pretended to be battling over the town for the benefit of the recon planes, but in reality were firing blanks.... and then the troops (both sides) got drunk and a mass brawl ensued, and the recon planes reported hand to hand fighting and they were, unfortunately, reinforced and had to fight for real?

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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 2:12:33 AM   
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I liked James Coburn as the company commander in "What Did you do in the War Daddy"



Was that the one where he and the Italian commander in Sicily did a deal where the troops pretended to be battling over the town for the benefit of the recon planes, but in reality were firing blanks.... and then the troops (both sides) got drunk and a mass brawl ensued, and the recon planes reported hand to hand fighting and they were, unfortunately, reinforced and had to fight for real?


Got it in one. Then Germans came in and the Italians and Americans worked together to take the village back from them......

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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 4:09:25 AM   
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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 7:37:12 AM   
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Yeah I like TRL also - but I've realized over the years that I pretty much like everything Hans Zimmer does - me being a music guy at heart. But I accept that 99% of folks hate TRL. I'll allow them to hate it - if they will allow me to like it!



Zimmer's score for the "The Thin red Line" is superb!!!

The hounting "Journey To The Line" Track #3 is best for me (I can loop it forever)!


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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 7:42:14 AM   
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Hans Zimmer "The Thin Red Line" soundtrack at Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Thin-Red-Line-Hans-Zimmer/dp/B00000GV6B/ref=sr_1_3/189-8367966-4705421?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1240814465&sr=8-3


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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 7:50:28 AM   
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BTW, one other WWII movie that is very strange is the Russian movie called "Ivanovo detstvo" or "Ivan's Childhood" (many tmes called "My Name is Ivan") by Andrei Tarkovsky... it has the same dream-like feel the "The Thin red Line" by Mallick...

Have you guys seen it?

I have not, Leo. But now you mention it, I will make the effort.

Thank you.


It will be worth the effort John - that movie astonished the world because it was something completely different from Russia regarding WWII and it was filmed just a few years after Stalin died!

BTW, the movie is black&white and, IIRC, in most of the film characters do not speak at all...



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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 7:53:01 AM   
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Anyone else here seen 'Cross of Iron' ? Peckinpah on the eastern front (the Kuban to be precise)... marvelllous stuff.




Great film. Some very disturbing scenes in it, however...as befits the subject matter.


BTW: I'm one of those who likes TRL. Sue me...

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RE: Saving Private Ryan? - 4/27/2009 7:53:04 AM   
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Hey... the world would be pretty dull place if we all thought the same... many of you guys hate the guts of "The Thin Red Line" while I like it...

BTW, as I wrote before, the "The Thin Red Line" movie by Mallick is very very close to what I felt when I read the original book "The Thin Red Line" by James Jones and to what i felt when I read the "The Naked and the Dead" by Norman Mailer.


Leo "Apollo11"



Oh I agree! The written word is always chancy because it lacks tone of voice. Mine was purely discussion. When I saw TRL I was ready to leave part way through (stayed though), I hated it that much. I found the thought sequences particularly bad, so when you said you loved them I wanted to put up my observations for discussion.

I haven't read those two books, but your recommendation is putting them on my list.


My father bought all those nice book in Eglish in 1950's and 1960's in paperback... I still have them...

Out of all WWII books that he had I liked most:

"The Naked and the Dead"
by Norman Mailer

"The Thin Red Line"
by James Jones

"The Young Lions"
by Irwin Shaw


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