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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 11:40:30 AM

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One of the best first person shooters (FPS) I've ever played was "System Shock 2." It came out same year as Doom II, and was therefore eclipsed in popularity, but many reviews say it was far ahead of its time.

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 11:54:05 AM

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One of the best first person shooters (FPS) I've ever played was "System Shock 2." It came out same year as Doom II, and was therefore eclipsed in popularity, but many reviews say it was far ahead of its time.

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Steel Panthers: World at War
Neverwinter Nights 2
Medal of Honor
Brothers in Arms

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 11:57:00 AM

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I personally find the entire concept of a "favourite game besides WitP" completely ludicrous... There is NO other game than WitP...

Nobody with his hands on AE should be allowed to post in this thread!!!

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 12:00:55 PM

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Whoops! Too late!

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 12:06:55 PM

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 1:16:39 PM

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-STALKER
-Fallout 3
-X3: Terran Conflict
-Silent Hunter 4
-Grand Ages: Rome

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 1:30:26 PM

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ahhh Medal of Honor. nothing like killing Nazis and needing a whole clip to make em drop and stay dropped�

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 1:48:35 PM

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Fav game of all time, I would have to go back in time -
BBS Games ->
Tradewars 2002
BRE / SRE
Scrabble

91-95
Panzer General
Quake
USNF Gold (flight sims)
Wolfenstein (Anything by ID Software at this time)
Doom

96-2009
Quake2 (best game all time in my book)
Halflife 1/2
Counterstrike
WITP
Falcon 3.1 / 4.0 / 5.1
Red Baron II

list goes on and on:)

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 2:12:55 PM

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MoH: Mother of Hell ,

Don't you mean Mother in Law... old Chap?

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 2:28:25 PM

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Well i played the following

Mass Effect (really fun RPG Shooter with nice story)
COD IV-V (well took me few hour's to complete it both so a shame)
Goodfather II a really nice game but also one day fun to complete
GTA IV hehe serbian mafia this might be fun

Apart form that i play lots of HPS stuff especialy MC and some old games runing Dos Box:)

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 4:03:15 PM

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Semi-funny story alert!! (or not)

When the first Panzer General came out, a friend and I were reading a review on it in a magazine. We were commenting on how it didn't look like a very fun game and I told him that I didn't think I would like it at all and probably wouldn't buy it. Well, my wife was standing right there when I made the comment and what I didn't know was that my wife had already bought it for me for Christmas. Apparently, after my comment, she tried to get her money back and/or trade it for another game, but she was unable to.

Come Christmas time, she gives me the game and makes some comment like "Sorry, I picked the wrong game." Well, I decided to give it a try. As it turned out, I found the game to be really fun and it became one of my all time favorite game.

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 4:04:58 PM

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How about the Great Naval Battles of WWII Games?� They ROCKED!� The surface combat model was sooooo superior to WitP.� I loved it. �

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 4:57:28 PM

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One of the best first person shooters (FPS) I've ever played was "System Shock 2." It came out same year as Doom II, and was therefore eclipsed in popularity, but many reviews say it was far ahead of its time.

I think your referring to System Shock ... the original System Shock. Shock 2 came out in 1999 and was one of the best shooters i ever played. creeped the hell out of me! Original SS slipped totally under my radar as did the original Fallout despite me being a Baldur's Gate fan. I managed to get a copy of the former via Ebay a number of years ago. It WAS ahead of it's time compared to a simple shooter like Doom II. So ahead that it took my "then" advanced Pentium IV running Win98 to make it run totally smoothly. Unfortunately i havn't been able to replay it since that machine had it's motherboard updated. For some reason Win98 can't load up expanded memory...keep getting page size alerts and the game requires it to beat the 640k DOS thing.

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 5:20:05 PM

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Charbroiled,

The original Panzer General STILL IS A GREAT GAME. PG runs on our original computer (yes, a 386 DX 25 converted to a 486 DX2 50 that still runs just fine). Besides PG, we have all the classic DOS games, including Railroad Tycoon and Railroad Tycoon Deluxe, Civilization, Masters of Orion, Colonization, Wooden Ships & Iron Men, Harpoon, Sim City, Sim Earth, SimAnt, Caesar II, Civil War Generals, etc., etc. We used to call our original computer the "game machine" because it had so many on it (and on a partitioned 1.3MB hard drive at that!).

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 5:52:18 PM

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One of the best first person shooters (FPS) I've ever played was "System Shock 2." It came out same year as Doom II, and was therefore eclipsed in popularity, but many reviews say it was far ahead of its time.

I think your referring to System Shock ... the original System Shock. Shock 2 came out in 1999 and was one of the best shooters i ever played. creeped the hell out of me! Original SS slipped totally under my radar as did the original Fallout despite me being a Baldur's Gate fan. I managed to get a copy of the former via Ebay a number of years ago. It WAS ahead of it's time compared to a simple shooter like Doom II. So ahead that it took my "then" advanced Pentium IV running Win98 to make it run totally smoothly. Unfortunately i havn't been able to replay it since that machine had it's motherboard updated. For some reason Win98 can't load up expanded memory...keep getting page size alerts and the game requires it to beat the 640k DOS thing.

You're right Nik, I'm conflating the two. SS 1 came out at the time of Doom. I own it, but have never even tried to get it to run on any of my machines, which are all Win XP.

System Shock 2 I played a couple years ago in Emulator mode or something like that on a Win XP machine. Fantastic game, and definitely ahead of its time.

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 6:05:03 PM

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I want to emphasise I am playing no other game at present but were I to be allowed to it would be in no particular order

Panzer General 1 and 2 (but not 3d)
Imperialism 1 and 2
Masters of Orion 2
Dark Age of Camelot
Forge of Freedom
Call of Glory 1 and 2
Shogun Total War
Medieval Total War
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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 8:04:09 PM

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One of the best first person shooters (FPS) I've ever played was "System Shock 2." It came out same year as Doom II, and was therefore eclipsed in popularity, but many reviews say it was far ahead of its time.

I think your referring to System Shock ... the original System Shock. Shock 2 came out in 1999 and was one of the best shooters i ever played. creeped the hell out of me! Original SS slipped totally under my radar as did the original Fallout despite me being a Baldur's Gate fan. I managed to get a copy of the former via Ebay a number of years ago. It WAS ahead of it's time compared to a simple shooter like Doom II. So ahead that it took my "then" advanced Pentium IV running Win98 to make it run totally smoothly. Unfortunately i havn't been able to replay it since that machine had it's motherboard updated. For some reason Win98 can't load up expanded memory...keep getting page size alerts and the game requires it to beat the 640k DOS thing.

You're right Nik, I'm conflating the two. SS 1 came out at the time of Doom. I own it, but have never even tried to get it to run on any of my machines, which are all Win XP.

System Shock 2 I played a couple years ago in Emulator mode or something like that on a Win XP machine. Fantastic game, and definitely ahead of its time.

I've not been able to get it to run on XP either. Get as far as the intro....without sound then it goes back to desktop. I need to try to fix the Win98 issue. There's some solutions posted on the Net regarding setting Expanded memory but so far the changes i've made in my Config.sys file arn't working. Would love to play it again.

If you liked SS2, you'd like Undying too. Ever play it?

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 8:13:42 PM

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Charbroiled,

The original Panzer General STILL IS A GREAT GAME.� PG runs on our original computer (yes, a 386 DX 25 converted to a 486 DX2 50 that still runs just fine).� Besides PG, we have all the classic DOS games, including Railroad Tycoon and Railroad Tycoon Deluxe, Civilization, Masters of Orion, Colonization, Wooden Ships & Iron Men, Harpoon, Sim City, Sim Earth, SimAnt, Caesar II, Civil War Generals, etc., etc.� We used to call our original computer the "game machine" because it had so many on it (and on a partitioned 1.3MB hard drive at that!).

I was able to get Panzer General to run on my XP machine, but then I converted to Vista and I haven't been able to get it to run.

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 9:26:08 PM

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Never played Undying.

IIRC, I did get SS2 to work on XP (though it might have been Win 2000).

I don't even know why I'm reading this thread however; its like the guy who knows he MUST join the monastery window shopping at the brothel. I absolutely MUST constrain my gameplaying if I gonna get tenure!

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 9:34:42 PM

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Never played Undying.

IIRC, I did get SS2 to work on XP (though it might have been Win 2000), but couldn't get Win98 to work.

I don't even know why I'm reading this thread however; its like the guy who knows he MUST join the monastery window shopping at the brothel. I absolutely MUST constrain my gameplaying if I gonna get tenure!

Worth picking up. Runs on XP. I had to get it as part of a "horror pack" which includes the first two "Dracula first person RPG's"

here's a link with info on it. Its based on the Unreal Tournament game engine. Very well rendered. Even today the graphics still look credible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Barker's_Undying

SS2 runs on Xp no problem. Getting back to the mentioned Bioshock, i've read that the core group that was Irrational games was responsbile for that piece and it's considered the true successor to SS2. It certainly was the most interesting shooter i've played in years.....better than Fallout 3 with a great and unique setting and storyline to go with it. I stil hope that someday there'll be a SS3

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 9:40:44 PM

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I had heard that Bioshock was the descendant of Sys Shock. Sys Shock was _SOO_ good, so engrossing. I think I must holdoff on trying Bioshock for awhile. Although I do now have a bad-arse desktop with a really big HD, fast chip, and whizbang video card that could probably handle it. I'm so afflicted with procrastination, I till haven't really installed anything on that machine to take advantage of my big screen TV and new desktop! Now that is pathetic! When you are such a procrastinator that you cannot even be bothered to install games on a bitchin' new system!?

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 9:54:08 PM

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Getting back to the mentioned Bioshock, i've read that the core group that was Irrational games was responsbile for that piece and it's considered the true successor to SS2. It certainly was the most interesting shooter i've played in years.....better than Fallout 3 with a great and unique setting and storyline to go with it. I stil hope that someday there'll be a SS3

Hey Nik,

I'm playing Fallout 3 (for about my 4th run through) and am really enjoying it. Is the storyline in Bioshock fairly linear, or is it free-roam like Fallout? I'm looking for something as intense as Fallout (for when burnout sets in), but I'm not in it for just a FPS. I like to build and RP my character like you can in Fallout (and Oblivion).

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 9:56:30 PM

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good policy. I didn't even consider getting the latest shooters until i built my first machine as a sort of "graduation" exercise. ( I certainly wasn't going to pay Alienware 4-7 grand to get the quad core system i lusted after)

Bioshock will be worth the wait once upgrade your rig, and bonus...it'll be like $19.99 by then too

Just don't make the mistake i made and play it too quickly...i was so bummed when it ended.....that and play it at night with the lights out!

The only part that was semi-lame was the ending which was your typical boss screen type affair. Can't really blame the designers i suppose. There are only so many varations one can play on that theme....but i will say that there's a hidden twist in the plot that will surprise you if you can resist the temptation to read ahead on one of the spoiler websites.

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 10:00:40 PM

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There were a lot of puzzles in Sys Shock; most of which I figured out on my own. But I admit, in one or two instances I was stuck for so long--days or weeks--I went online to get the solution.

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 10:01:13 PM

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Hey Nik,

I'm playing Fallout 3 (for about my 4th run through) and am really enjoying it. Is the storyline in Bioshock fairly linear, or is it free-roam like Fallout? I'm looking for something as intense as Fallout (for when burnout sets in), but I'm not in it for just a FPS. I like to build and RP my character like you can in Fallout (and Oblivion).

Bioshock's plot isn't nearly as free roamer as Fallout 3, but the plot twists and colorful background on a crazy underwater Art Decco type setting more than makes up for it. Fallout3 got a little mundane for me due to the mostly same scene grayed out scenery....especially when inside a building. (which all looked the same.....post nuclear decay'd mess)

I'm trying to play through it a 2nd time myself because stupid me once more managed to go straight through the primary plot in less than 20 hours of play time. The ending there was worse. You want me to do what??!!!!!! I won't spoil it for anyone who hasn't played it yet. I even missed the town of Megaton first time out. The wrecked carrier turned city (naturally!) was interesting. I was running all around that one like a kid on a memorial warship visit.

I'm finding Farcry 2 a real snore. I can't get into it. I guess being a mercenary in a Somolia type country with Malaria is just too mundane for me.

FEAR 2 was a real disapointment as well. Better graphics, same schtick......not a tenth as scary as the original.

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/29/2009 11:22:13 PM

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Can't believe nobody has mentioned "Red Orchestra" It is the only shooter out�for WWII fanboys. Not a Quakefest but calls for serious group tactics on the Eastern front.�You can also�drive a tank with up to three crew members, man a MG42 and have to change out the barrel before you burn it up,�or just use the bayonet,�and there are�two amazing mods out that take it to�North Africa�and the Western front. All the balistics are real.�Trouble is, the maker Tripwire never got the promotion out and most shooterboys play the horrible "Call of Doodie".��Actually has been a boon for Red Orchestra. A small but serious adult community with no cheaters and hackers. PC only-not made for the console which has limited the number of kiddies and�morons playing. Check it out. They frequently offer it for ten bucks on steam.

Like John, I love the HPS Civil War series. Just got Musket and Pike which is based on the same engine. It is very good.

Still love to put Diablo II into the machine and play solitare. A classic

IL2 is almost ten years old and is still the king of flight sims. Where else can you fly an IAR 80?

Company of Heros is a fun diversion.

And Combat Mission Afrika Korps. I still play that by email. Wish they would update it. Still a hell of a game.

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/30/2009 4:08:13 PM

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PTO 2 for SNES and Civil War Generals 2 are all time favs...

All sports games, COD 3, Civ Rev, and any good time consuming empire building game that actually takes planning and good thought process... haven't really found one yet. Very excited about Hearts of Iron 3.. I grew up on the Super NES, so I still play that very often, and all the odd number of games I have for it.

I play too many games for very short times... I like games I can accumulate statistics and pick right back up where I left off...

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/30/2009 6:42:22 PM

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Okay...Some of you guys are cheating and mentioning games from the "Way Back" machine...Okay, Please accept these great games:

Age Of Rifles

TF1942

TANKS:A construction set

Red Baron

(Did I mention Age Of Rifles?)hint,hint

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 4/30/2009 7:51:07 PM

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Can't believe nobody has mentioned "Red Orchestra" It is the only shooter out for WWII fanboys. Not a Quakefest but calls for serious group tactics on the Eastern front. You can also drive a tank with up to three crew members, man a MG42 and have to change out the barrel before you burn it up, or just use the bayonet, and there are two amazing mods out that take it to North Africa and the Western front. All the balistics are real. Trouble is, the maker Tripwire never got the promotion out and most shooterboys play the horrible "Call of Doodie". Actually has been a boon for Red Orchestra. A small but serious adult community with no cheaters and hackers. PC only-not made for the console which has limited the number of kiddies and morons playing. Check it out. They frequently offer it for ten bucks on steam.

What server do you play Red Orchestra on? 99% of the servers are automatic spam fests on Danzig or that one tank battle map Arasop or something (can't remember exact name). And all of those range from laggy to very laggy, making it no fun to play.

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IL2 is almost ten years old and is still the king of flight sims. Where else can you fly an IAR 80?

Gotta ask, does flying the IAR 80 feel like flying a Corsair in 1941 to you too? They feel very similar, but I love them both.

I really just look for the best ping and then pick. I skip the 24/7 Arad and Danzig maps. Actually, some of the best games are in the middle of the day when the European servers are active. Coupla, good German servers if you don't lag. If you see me my name is Stigmata and I like to man MGs. Have not played in about a month though.

Also like Darkest Hour. Incredible body of work. Best mod that nobody plays. Usually it is the 29th Div public server for that.

Can't comment about the corsair as I have only flown it rarely. I really like to try out the rare planes that you will never seen in another sim. Macchi, gladiator, PE2, brewster buffalo-man, it just goes on and on. Never played it on line though. Probably would get creamed.

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RE: Favorite Game Besides WiTP?? - 5/1/2009 10:01:23 AM

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Well i forgot about Resident Evil 1 , 2 , 3 those were the best survival horrors i played

My brother owned a playstation and i remeber that once when everybody was asleep i turn it on on the kitchen TV:) put headphones on my head and played RE III for the first time i was kind of scared whan a big ugly fellow was trying to chase you down through out the game

When i let my friend RE I during the day he feel of the chair just as the game started when some doggies jumped in through the windows

As for Bioshock i played it and didn't like it... game was to boring for me

but the original SS2 was great i never completed it but i played it a lot

As for running old games on XP all of those XP's have a missing file that is responsible for the memory stuff when i downloaded it all games started to run great

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