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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 9:00:37 AM

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 9:07:49 AM

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Leo, I don't think KGr 100 has any special pathfinder abilities, but I could be wrong.

Coventry was attacked on 14 November 1940 in operation "Mondscheinsonate" ("Moonlight Sonata"). The attack was started by KG100 "pathfinders" (which were using "X-Gerat") by marking the target. Then the rest of German bombers (500+) attacked the marked target (they had "Knickebein" as normal part of their cockpit equipement and when in general vicinity of target they saw the target markers set by KG100)...

That's why I asked if this is possible to be done in game...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 9:30:21 AM

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Morning Guys.

Per, Leo, nice to see you guys.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 9:38:35 AM

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Hi all,

Hello Eric!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 10:11:50 AM

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Hello Leo & Eric

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 10:18:03 AM

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Hi all,

Hello Per!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 10:47:29 AM

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 10:58:37 AM

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Tithe... Nik, how does this explain Warsaw, Rotterdam and Belgrade?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 11:18:47 AM

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There's a different in bombing a frontline capital or in bombing one far behind the front, don't you think?

Morning all, working again - but at least with an interesting subject

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 11:27:44 AM

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Only Warsaw was a frontline capital when it was bombed, and again, the stated objective was to break the morale of its defenders. That's terror bombing.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 11:29:47 AM

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And no, there's very little (or no) difference in area bombing a country's capital whether it's close to, or far from a front line. It's the objective of the raid that matters.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 11:31:02 AM

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This might get too political - if it isn't already. So I better quit before even starting

And Rotterdam was of course a frontline city, Belgrade was to become one, soon.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 11:50:24 AM

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Morning everyone

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 12:01:23 PM

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Gee. Could it be snowing in Colorado, Scott?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 12:03:49 PM

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Good morning - Tithe.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 12:43:53 PM

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Leo, as an addendum to yesterday, KGr 100 DOES have special equipment. Its Heinkel 111s has the Knickebein device installed, and they also carry a bigger load of incendiary bombs than normal. Remember that this is for the 1940 campaign; I have no idea what they look like for the 1941 campaign.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 1:28:10 PM

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Hi all,

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Leo, as an addendum to yesterday, KGr 100 DOES have special equipment. Its Heinkel 111s has the Knickebein device installed, and they also carry a bigger load of incendiary bombs than normal. Remember that this is for the 1940 campaign; I have no idea what they look like for the 1941 campaign.

Thanks for info Kristian!

Although all Luftwaffe bombers should have the "Knickebein" (it was standard equpement and all crews were trained to use it and were trained to fly at night) and the KG100 should additionaly have the "X-Gerat" as well!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 2:13:06 PM

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 2:36:26 PM

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Snowy pre-commute Tithe from Denver

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 2:41:35 PM

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Hi all,

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Snowy pre-commute Tithe from Denver

Snow?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 3:30:50 PM

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Snow ??

(this is what is called a "running gag "

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We had a superbe snow moutain last week for...hmmmm, let's say 6 hours. But the south wind had been blowing, and now we are back to "Indian Summer". 22�C today !

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 3:37:53 PM

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Hi all,

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Snow ??
(this is what is called a "running gag " ).
We had a superbe snow moutain last week for...hmmmm, let's say 6 hours. But the south wind had been blowing, and now we are back to "Indian Summer". 22�C today !

Sun, blue skies and 18 degrees centigrade here today and yesterday...

Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 3:53:09 PM

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Tithe... Nik, how does this explain Warsaw, Rotterdam and Belgrade?

In regards to Luftwaffe doctrine, (i.e. outside of any direct intervention by Hitler or Goering), The strategic element allowed attacks on sources of enemy power which included governmental seats as well as centers of industries. While heavy casualties among a civilian population were probable these were deemed as acceptible under the Geneva Convention.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 4:22:32 PM

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Hi all,

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Snow ??
(this is what is called a "running gag " ).
We had a superbe snow moutain last week for...hmmmm, let's say 6 hours. But the south wind had been blowing, and now we are back to "Indian Summer". 22�C today !

Sun, blue skies and 18 degrees centigrade here today and yesterday...

Leo "Apollo11"

Forecasting in the 50's this weekend

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 4:26:17 PM

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Watching the launch in a few minutes of some big ass rocket on NASA TV: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html?param=public

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 6:07:00 PM

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Neanderthals and Humans

And now we know where politicians came from.....

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 6:07:32 PM

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Watching the launch in a few minutes of some big ass rocket on NASA TV:� http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html?param=public

It's only big-assed for a short time....

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 6:12:42 PM

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Just bought Paul Stanley - Live to Win
Awesome Album

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 7:44:28 PM

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quote:

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Tithe... Nik, how does this explain Warsaw, Rotterdam and Belgrade?

In regards to Luftwaffe doctrine, (i.e. outside of any direct intervention by Hitler or Goering), The strategic element allowed attacks on sources of enemy power which included governmental seats as well as centers of industries. While heavy casualties among a civilian population were probable these were deemed as acceptible under the Geneva Convention.

Sorry, but that sounds like the old "We were just following orders" revisionist schtick to me, and lazy scholarship on the part of the author.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/28/2009 8:10:41 PM

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Sorry, but that sounds like the old "We were just following orders" revisionist schtick to me, and lazy scholarship on the part of the author.

I suggest you check out the book before you condemn the author as lazy. Corum's work covers the Luftwaffe's genesis and development from 1918 - 1940, and includes an overview and history of the WWI Ger airforce. He draws heavily on German language archival sources, and his overall bibliography is 23 pages long.

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