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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 1:03:34 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 1:03:59 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 1:32:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

"Feet-of-arms"? Is that like "toes-of-hands"?




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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 1:34:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Chamberlain held the left with the help of a lot of other units. On the right the corps that held off Early did a great job. Buford had a lot to do with it. Reynolds got there in time. One of the few idiots on the Union side those 3 days was Sickles. The Union forces for the most part backed each other up. Through luck, happenstance or decent generalship for a change the Army of the Potomac did what it was capable of doing those 3 days. The fact that Stuart left Lee blind for 2 days didn't hurt either.

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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 1:41:04 AM   
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Chamberlain held the left with the help of a lot of other units. On the right the corps that held off Early did a great job. Buford had a lot to do with it. Reynolds got there in time. One of the few idiots on the Union side those 3 days was Sickles. The Union forces for the most part backed each other up. Through luck, happenstance or decent generalship for a change the Army of the Potomac did what it was capable of doing those 3 days. The fact that Stuart left Lee blind for 2 days didn't hurt either.


That is a good summary.

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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 2:55:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		In summary, Chamberlain was one of many union officers who performed very well those 3 days.

Not pursuing Lee was probably also a sound decision. The Army of the Potomac had to be exhausted after those 3 days.

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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 3:05:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Army of Northern Virginia took a lot of casualties they could not afford. The manpower power reserves of the Union had not been tapped out yet.

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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 3:26:47 AM   
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Well, so much for Gettysburg. Wonder what happened to Lee there; he was given so many opportunities to go for a smarter, less costly assault, and instead plowed his troops straight up the middle and to their slaughter.

Severe case of target fixation...


I tend to agree. Jeb Stuart may get a small piece of the blame, and Lee's underestimation
of the Union's reaction, and Lee's overestimation of what his troop's could accomplish, and the hardheadedness of various Southern commanders. Longstreet had a better handle on the situation in some ways I think.


Of course, if Longstreet hadn't taken all day to prepare his assault on the right flank, the 20th Maine wouldn't have been around to contest it. Longstreet and Ewell both screwed the pooch in that battle, leaving Lee with the ignominious choice of attacking or retreating.

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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 3:53:39 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 3:54:48 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 5:51:26 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 7:49:58 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 7:51:23 AM   
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Damn... Dixie's got a better/smarter siggy than me!





Hadn't seen that one. It's good.

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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 8:12:38 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 8:14:00 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 8:39:04 AM   
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Per, Jo, hi !

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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 8:43:50 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 8:48:17 AM   
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Edited: ... and Hi, Eric

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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 8:52:05 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 8:52:33 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 8:54:23 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 9:01:58 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 10:48:51 AM   
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Wonder if i could get back home tonight....

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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 11:12:21 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 12:26:07 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 12:27:13 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 12:30:42 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 2:17:50 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 2:19:50 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD! - 12/18/2009 2:33:34 PM   
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