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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/10/2009 10:16:13 PM   
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December 11th 1941

I have to say gentlemen that I feel like a firefighter having to put out 10 fires at a time singlehand.
Well, today I have some concerning news, some updates and some good news.

The good news is that our battleships Arizona and California will soon be ready for duty again, the dockworkers at Pearl estimate that all repairs should be done tomorrow.
The Japanese have invaded Rabaul, and we will not be able to hold, furthermore the Imperial Japanese Navy is getting increasingly bold, they have now sent a small carrier force close to Soerebaja, what they are up to we do not know, but if they move any closer they will be targeted by all available aircrafts based at Soerebaja.
We continue to lose some ships today, but this had to be expected, any ship that escapes from the Philliphines or the NEI is a bonus, so we do our best.
We have also gotten some reports that the Japanese are heading for Attu in the Kuriles, we have nothing to spare as it is, so we will simply have to let them take it. It is only a small piece of rock, and if Tojo wants to keep some of his soldiers there, let him. Fewer troops to face elsewere.

Our main headache today is a Japanese task force that seems to be steaming towards Darwin in Northern Australia. This could be one of two things, either a surface raid, or an invasion force. Either way we have sent a task force of 1 heavy cruiser, 5 light cruisers and 11 destroyers to interfere with this task force. All we can say to these brave sailors is - goodspeed!






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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/11/2009 6:59:47 PM   
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Sirs, the availability of ground troops is a major concern. I have talked with Churchill and FDR about this, we need divisions not mere brigades. Unfortunately it will be some 11 weeks before an entire division is made ready for us, so for now we will have to make do with mere droplets.

Today we had a few naval losses, these were merchants trying to flee Hong Kong which is now also under attack, but naval losses have declined the last few days, mainly due to the fact that we have gotten the ships away from danger areas.

The situation at Soerebaja gives ground for some concern however, there are not enough fighters protecting the base, and we have to contemplate withdrawing aerial units from Singapore and Manilla into Soerebaja to protect the ships present.

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/12/2009 9:20:33 PM   
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Sirs, again we lose merchant shipping. But only the ships trying to escape Hong Kong. So it was to be expected. The city of Hong Kong itself will likely fall tomorrow it seems from my reports, and there is nothing we can do to help those poor sailors.
As usual our main concern is that we do not have the ammount of troops were we want to have them, instead we have a lot of troops were we do not want to have them. The Japanese is making the most of the situation and are invading several places in Borneo and Java. Our patrol crafts in Singapore is now flying Commonwealth troops to Soerebaja, and from there troops are flown south towards Australia. We hope that when Singapore falls, atleast some troops will be saved.

The port at Manilla is in effect shut down, and there is not much we can do for the ships there, the enemy controls the airspace around the Philliphines and any damaged ship trying to escape is likely to be sunk before reaching very far.
A warning has again been sent to Pearl Harbour as the Kido Butai once more is spotted at Johnston Island heading EAST. They could be heading back to try to end what they started, if so our carriers will be ordered to land their planes on the island and move to safety in an attempt to try to stiffen the defenses in the air at Pearl.

The only semi-pleasant reading I can give you is the report on total air losses so far.





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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/12/2009 9:51:59 PM   
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139WH-3 losses - ouch. That's the AVG isn't it?

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/12/2009 10:29:00 PM   
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139WH-3 losses - ouch. That's the AVG isn't it?


No, they´re Dutch bombers. AVG is using something called H81 or so.

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/12/2009 11:47:47 PM   
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So it is. my apologies

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/13/2009 11:05:27 AM   
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Yea darned Dutch fighter pilots complained about having to keep their fingers in a ditch or something and did not have time to escort the bombers...And ofc Roy2008 had zeroes on LRCAP...Pretty much a slaughter.
But what I really like about those numbers is the fact that Val+Kate=135, now that is a good number this early.

Of my 299 aerial losses, some 50 or so has been on the ground, in the air I am more or less on 1:1 so not too bad IMHO.

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/16/2009 5:31:43 PM   
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December 14th 1941

Gentlemen, the war has now lasted for one week. There can be no denying that during the past week the Japanese has made a large dent in our forces, espesially in our shipping. However all things considered we shall feel that we have gotten away rather easy, none of our battleships were sunk at Pearl Harbour, all our carriers escaped undamaged, and unlike what was feared, the Japanese has not landed everywhere at once. This might have to do with a lack of shipping, or it may be some sort of ruse from the Japanese.
What we do know is that every day that goes by we grow stronger, and ships are sailing as we speak, to reinforce areas of importance all over the Pacific. Some sacrifices has to be made, and forces deployed in Singapore, NEI and the Philliphines will bear the brunt of the Japanese assaults, and surely many a good man will end up in POW-camps. The only thing we can do to aid these men is to strike back at the enemy whenever and whereever we can.
However we must carefully plan our attacks, we cannot fight this like a bar-brawl. Instead we must use the finesse of a fencer, quickly deliver a small but stinging riposte when we see an opening.

The only event of importance these last 24 hours is that the Japanese has invaded Johnston Island, and the garrison there does not recon they can hold for too long. Unfortunately the so called Kido Butai is guarding the invasion so we cannot simply send in our carriers to sweep the attackers off the surface of the sea. We have also located another Japanese task force to the west of Johnston Island, the nature of this force is unknown, although we expect it might be a task force whos sole purpose is to refuel and rearm the Kido Butai. If that proves to be correct, this might be a very high value target. It does not seem likely that the Kido Butai has refueled so far, and they should now be low on fuel. If we could sink their tankers, the enemy carriers would be sitting ducks.






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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/17/2009 4:27:02 AM   
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Where are your carriers then?

Is there still a cohesion penalty for flight ops of carriers if they are in a base hex? I know that LRCAP over carrier TFs is neutered.



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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/17/2009 10:03:07 PM   
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Two of my carriers are at Pearl awaiting the third one to join up.

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/17/2009 10:12:17 PM   
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December 15th 1941

Sirs, today a decision was made, or actually a few decisions that all ammount to the same.
We cannot keep planes and ships at certain bases any longer. So the following orders have been given:
a) all planes at Singapore are redirected to Soerebaja.
b) all bombers in the Philliphines are redirected to Port Moresby.
c) all heavily damaged ships in Manilla are to be scuttled.
d) all undamaged ships in the Philliphines are to try to break out and head for Port Moresby and then Australia.
e) all ships currently at Darwin are to fall back towards Port Moresby untill air cover can be provided at Darwin.

When it comes to fighting, the Dutch sent out a few PT boats to engage a Japanese surface task force. While the PT boats launched several torpedoes, no hits were scored and 3 PT boats were sunk.
The good news is that the Japanese suffered heavy casualties at Wake and Johnston Island, a total of 2500 Japanese soldiers were killed, while our total losses were less than 100.
In the air we shot down 6 bombers and 2 fighters for the loss of 3 fighters, these are good numbers, but they would be better if more fighters were airborne at the same time. This is also one of the reasons why the bombers in the Philliphines are rebased, now the ground crews can focus on the fighter planes instead.

For some time we have been concerned about the possible impact on morale that the so called "Tokyo Rose" could have, however with todays announcements everyone can tell that she is lying. So far she has reported a loss of 6 battleships and 9 carriers, and most troops knows that we do not have that ammount of ships available in the Pacific. However all officers should mention every now and then what a big liar she is.

For your study I have enclosed a brief report on the situation in the Philliphines.





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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/18/2009 9:57:25 PM   
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December 16th 1941

Good day to you all.
Some serious changes in the situation has occured since last night. First of all, somehere to the east of Malaya a strong Japanese surface force is steaming around. We counted atleast 2 battleships and 2 cruisers, this could be an attempt to kill of any merchant ships we have in the area, or it could be defending an invasion force we have not spotted.
And secondly, Singapore as well as the escape route north into Burma has been cut off by Japanese forces (see the attached map).

We continue to scuttle badly damaged ships in Manilla, as there is no escape for them now. While aerial combat still occurs in the Philliphines, the Japanese can bring so many more fighters to the fight that our boys hardly stand a chance. We still manage ratios of 1:2, so we cannot be too disappointed.
The moving of our bombers from the Philliphines to Port Moresby continue, and soon all of our bombers should have gotten away, hopefully these guys will be useful later on.

We have dispatched a raiding force consisting of 2 heavy cruisers and a few light cruisers to attack the invasion flotilla at Rabaul, this will be a hit and run operation as we fear Japanese bombers will interfere if we linger in the area.
At Pearl Harbour, the Lexington, Saratoga and Enterprise have formed up together with a screening force of several cruisers and destroyers. This task force have been given orders to sail out and try to engage the enemy, but to refrain from battle with the so called Kido Butai.

Our brave men at Johnston Island finally succombed after being bombarded by Japanese surface vessels including two battleships and a handful of cruisers. Now the Japanese empire needs to supply this island, so our submarines have been given orders to patrol the waters off the island.






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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/19/2009 8:39:45 AM   
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For some time we have been concerned about the possible impact on morale that the so called "Tokyo Rose" could have, however with todays announcements everyone can tell that she is lying. So far she has reported a loss of 6 battleships and 9 carriers, and most troops knows that we do not have that ammount of ships available in the Pacific. However all officers should mention every now and then what a big liar she is.


LOL, nice AAR Terje. Thinking about getting into this game, so reading up some AARs and looking through the forums here.

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/19/2009 12:22:25 PM   
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quote:

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For some time we have been concerned about the possible impact on morale that the so called "Tokyo Rose" could have, however with todays announcements everyone can tell that she is lying. So far she has reported a loss of 6 battleships and 9 carriers, and most troops knows that we do not have that ammount of ships available in the Pacific. However all officers should mention every now and then what a big liar she is.


LOL, nice AAR Terje. Thinking about getting into this game, so reading up some AARs and looking through the forums here.


Well, Tokyo Rose IS in the game, and that is what she has reported lost. (One BB and one BC is lost, that is true but still she is a little off )

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/19/2009 10:57:34 PM   
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Well, Tokyo Rose IS in the game, and that is what she has reported lost. (One BB and one BC is lost, that is true but still she is a little off )


The part about the officers being encouraged to just occasionally mention what a liar she is in front of the enlisted men made me LOL.

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/20/2009 1:02:55 PM   
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Well, Tokyo Rose IS in the game, and that is what she has reported lost. (One BB and one BC is lost, that is true but still she is a little off )


The part about the officers being encouraged to just occasionally mention what a liar she is in front of the enlisted men made me LOL.


I'm gonna need every little bit of advantage I can get

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/20/2009 5:59:02 PM   
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December 17th 1941

Dear editors and journalist from all the biggest newspapers in the free world, I thank you for taking time to meet me. I, that means we, the free world need your help.
As you all know, aluminum is a vital component in aircraft manufactoring, and we are growing short. What we would like you to do, is press an article on how pots and pans can be transformed into the tools that will ensure our survival.

I realise that many of you do not believe that the situation is this dire, and that you have all seen the manufactoring plants for our aircrafts. However i do not believe you all know how few of these aircrafts are being made available for the Pacific. In the attached report, you can see how badly depleted our pools are, and how low the reinforcement numbers are. Look espesially at the numbers of Wildcats and P-40Bs we have available, these aircrafts are vital to the war effort, as these are our best fighters per today.
Again, the situation is dire!

Thank you all for your attention.





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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/24/2009 7:19:47 PM   
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December 18th 1941

Sirs, it seems that the Japanese plan is unveiled. Unlike what we were guessing, their main advance is not South into the NEI although they are seizing cities and ports there as well. It seems the main aspect of the Japanese plan is to make a comeback as hard as possible for the Allies. They are invading in the Central Pacific.
Johnston Island has fallen, our garrison at Wake reports that they too will be forced to surrender quite soon, and now we have reports that the Japanese are about to invade Midway.
The question is wether we want to risk our carriers to try to come to the aid of Midway.
IF the Japanese carriers are low on torpedoes we should strike, as our carriers are within striking distance,
However if the Japanese carriers have restocked on torpedoes, we need to stay clear as that would likely result in the loss of our carriers.

The only orders that was confirmed today were these;
-Johnston Island is to be mined by our submarines. Soon the enemy will need to ship in supplies to the island, we will try to claim some kills by these mines.
-Our carriers will maintain their NW heading for the time being.






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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/25/2009 12:12:49 AM   
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I know you have your carriers in a reasonable location to interdict the Midway invasion, but if were you I'd let this one go. Reasoning:

* Midway is very isolated, like Johnson it is much closer to your line of supply than his, make the resupply efforts difficult.
* Unless he has plans to attack Pearl, Midway's only real use is as a sub base to attack your convoy lanes to Pearl or to SoPAC.
* It is too easy for him to shut down the only land based airfield: Midway. Doing so means it is all up to your carriers.
* Most importantly, even though you have your carriers there, you only appear to have one TF, so a strike could hit ALL carriers in the TF, you don't appear to have any support TFs - surface combat, ASW, anything like that - to act as they are intended, and just as importantly, to act as targets other than your carriers.

Midway is about to get bombarded, and ultimately, even if you win a carrier battle, any planes that land on the island are probably lost.

If anything, I would look to use your carriers to harrass his line of supply to the invasion. If you have time, try and get some subs there to give you some intel. What Roy might do is bombard and then retire the bombardment group. You may get the opportunity to come down from the North (going around Midway to the North with your carriers) and strike this retiring bombardment group while his carriers are still around Midway defending against a carrier attack upon the invasion.

This is very risky stuff. Ultimately, you have very little to gain by doing it. I would seriously just write off Midway for now.

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/25/2009 1:27:01 PM   
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Yea, I've been thinking about this a few days, and there is more to lose than to gain, so I will keep heading north and attack the forces he has at Attu, that should net me some merchant sinkings as well as some XP for my carrier planes.

Subs are allready racing towards Midway (apart from 8 or so that loaded all our Mk10 mines and are enroute to Johnston island). However so far my subs have been a disappointment compared to a vs AI game with no more than one AK sunk by subs (maybe an TK as well but not confirmed).

What is a slight concern however is that he will do as he did in our WitP game, and base alot of those long-legged Japanese gals on Johnston and Midway making the Mid-Pacific a no go sone for years to come.

Well, my CV TF consists of 25 ships, 3xCV, 4xCA, 8xCL, 10xDD so if the need arises I CAN split it up and reform, however I do not see the need on our little trip up north.

Another possible concern in a few turns is when Midway falls, I will nto have any good information were the KB is located and might head right back into an ambush...

Gotta love this game

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/25/2009 11:38:11 PM   
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Sounds prudent. Just regarding the Betty. She is much more fragile now. Flights to Pearl without escort will be out of the question if he wants to keep them for any length of time. I'd almost look into making traps for them. Get good AAA DDs and CLAAs and poke them into range covered by carriers LRCAPing the TF from out of range.

Search isn't as 'all-seeing' as it used to be without heavily restricting the search arc, which of course makes it relatively easy to flank.

Basically, these outposts might be more painful to have than they used to be.

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/27/2009 4:34:52 PM   
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December 19th 1941

Gentlemen, as expected Midway has fallen to the Japanese. We do however have reports that their invading ships took quite a beating before they overcame our defences.
On the positive side, our forces at Wake and Rabaul are still holding out, and it seems the Japanese might need more troops to take these locations.
The troops in Singapore reports that more than 150 Japanese bombers were in action over the city today, an attack is likely imminent.

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 8/29/2009 10:01:43 AM   
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Sirs this will not do!
You need to go back to all your departments and issue orders that no ships, planes or troops are to be reported lost on hearsay alone! We need to boost the morale of our troops, not lower it. Surely adding ships to a list of ships lost is not a good thing if the ships in question are indeed not sunk!
Look at this report, the three marked ships were not sunk, nor did we have any ships near Midway, concentrate people!






However we continue to lose ships at an alarming rate. The good thing however is that the evacuation from endangered areas are now almost completed. Some more ships are expected to be lost as they try to flee Soerebaja, but hopefully atleast some of them will survive.

Today unfortunately saw the valiant troops at Wake surrender after a bombardment by Japanese surface forces.
The troops at Rabaul were deleighted to see B-17s operating from Port Moresby arriving to bomb the Japanese troops.
Our surface fleet operating off Rabaul have been ordered to head back to Brisbane since all Japanese ships in the area are reported to be heading away, and a Japanese carrier is reported to the North-East heading towards the area.

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 9/12/2009 11:39:09 AM   
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December 21st 1941

Sirs! An oppertunity has arisen, and orders have been issued to our carriers to take the oppertunity, and to strike hard. This will however be a hit and run operation as we per today have no idea as to the wereabouts of the Kido Butai.
Too see the plans of the attack, please view the attached files.

Today has been an acceptable day, we only lost one ship, a troop transport loading troops at Soerebaja. The loading there is now complete, and the rest of the task force will head out in a SW direction at flank speed. They will then head on to Brrome, Australia. The Dutch troops will then take up position there and help defend Northern Australia.

A slight concern has arisen in Malaya, it seems the Japanese are onto our plan, and that they are now trying to seal off the escape route north, so our troops trying to break out have been ordered to prepare for battle.
On the bright side however, is that our garrison in Chittagong now numbers more than 15.000 men, and that they are working hard to expand the fortifications in the area.






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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 9/12/2009 11:40:25 PM   
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Terje;

You are seriously courting coordination issues with strikes from this carrier TF. Too many ACs in an air combat TF for early war allies. Might be OK for a port raid, but if he has defending fighters there is a high likelihood you will be sending in piecemeal attacks.

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 9/16/2009 11:28:09 AM   
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Terje;

You are seriously courting coordination issues with strikes from this carrier TF. Too many ACs in an air combat TF for early war allies. Might be OK for a port raid, but if he has defending fighters there is a high likelihood you will be sending in piecemeal attacks.


I'm kinda gambling there is no fighters present, I do not think/hope so

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 9/16/2009 2:41:57 PM   
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Terje, I have very much enjoyed reading your AAR so far and especially the tone of it.
Please carry on as you started and best of luck for your strikes !!! and be careful you might find some albatrosses in the aleutians

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 9/16/2009 5:04:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: elpaco

Terje, I have very much enjoyed reading your AAR so far and especially the tone of it.
Please carry on as you started and best of luck for your strikes !!! and be careful you might find some albatrosses in the aleutians


Thank you for those kind words.
I just want to apologise for the slow speed of this AAR, but rest assured I update it as soon as I have a new turn done. Unfortunately Roy2008 is kinda busy these days, so he usually only manages to send in one turn per week.

Oh, and I expect to run into alot of Albatrosses still

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 9/23/2009 11:09:42 AM   
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Alas it seems this game is dead
No word from Riy for a forthnight. I will revive this one if I hear from Roy again, but right now it looks grim.
Thanks to those that read this thread!

Terje

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RE: Oh my, I think I killed an albatross... (No Roy2008) - 9/23/2009 5:34:14 PM   
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I am sorry to hear that. I enjoyed your AAR's. Good luck.

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