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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/11/2009 11:18:20 PM

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Borneo.

Invasion of Tarakan underway.

Will move PT's from Balikpapan to try and get the ships at Tarakan.

We are striking with aircraft to little effect.

Will be moving more subs into area near Davao.

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/12/2009 4:03:54 AM

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I've just done my part of the latest turn.

Taking Atimonan has given has a few thousand in resources for the factories in Manila, which is nice as we were living hand to mouth.

Our forces north of Manila are getting good experiance, but are not drawing much supply.

Our CV raid is now positioned between Marcus and Iwo Jima... I hav added a cV capable marine unit as well to give us about 60 Divebombers. The CV has good fuel levels, and I'm moving up a AO TF to fuel them up. With both KB and mini KB detected near Den Pasar (Bali, near Sorebaya) we have no threat... now all we need is a juicy convoy or three!

In Norpac I've air transported some infantry to Adak, with the BF from Sitka, and more infantry on the way.

At Perth we now have 2 US CV's and the Brit CV is on the way.

Fuel is arriving in Australia. and reinforcements are heading into the Pacific.

Cheers
Rob

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/12/2009 7:44:23 AM

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jrcar,

1. Nice work around Singapore. I wouldn't be surprised if the crossing of the Johore Strait, combined with your artillery attacks, may keep the enemy sufficiently disorganised to prevent them from launching a successful shock attack much before the end of February.

2. I assume the Dutch stack one hex west of Palembang is heading for Benkolen. Are there any units there worth/able to be saved by evacuation (probably by subs after expending their torpedoes at Palembang).

3. Have you been following Aztez's AAR. There it has been recently argued that the Allies should strike and capture the Bonins. Copycats to your Doolittle raid. Personally I think it is much wiser, and efficient, to launch a CV raid into the enemy SLOC rather than land a sacrifical amphibious force.

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/12/2009 7:55:38 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: jrcar

In responce to the following comment via email we have sent an official reply:

Co-Prosperity for all .....except Aussies

Thank you for your invitation to the Greater East Asian co-prosperity scheme.

Due to a lack of fighter aircraft, warships and troops we cannot give you the full answer you deserve.

We feel confident that by Christmas we can give you the full answer.

In addition we feel that Australia is part of the Pacific, rather than Asia, and feel it would be inappropriate to join your scheme.

Out Dutch colleges feel that the Indies do not fit well into what you are trying to accomplish and request that you stop carrying out military manoeuvres in our waters...

We are hoping that the accidental loss of several of your TK's on uncharted reefs in the area will help to convince you to look elsewhere for members.

Cheers

ABDA Command.

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/12/2009 4:11:05 PM

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quote:

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jrcar,

1. Nice work around Singapore. I wouldn't be surprised if the crossing of the Johore Strait, combined with your artillery attacks, may keep the enemy sufficiently disorganised to prevent them from launching a successful shock attack much before the end of February.

The AE river crossing is quite a bit different than the Witp-classic river crossing. In Witp-classic, all units crossed the river and shock attacked. So they all got high disruption and were affected, but you also might get good odds and do well. In AE, only the lead couple of units shock attack. So those units are typically attacking at very poor odds and get quite trashed, both disruption and lost/disabled squads, but the rest of the units are happy as clams. For example, I just crossed from Mandalay to Schwebo and two units took the brunt, the rest have virtually no disruption. Those units are trashed, however.

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/12/2009 10:00:57 PM

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12-13 Feb 1942

Burma
No Change

Malaya
More air attacks.
On the first day they get 2:1 and drop the forts to 2.

On the second day they get 5:1 Singapore Falls.

Java
KB continues to hang around between Sorebaya and Makassar. They sight a lot of the PT boats we have in the area, and loose a lot of search aircraft to FLAK and CAP. No strikes are launched.

An invasion TF appears a couple of hexes out from Makassar. Yesterday I thought they would go for a Den Pasar landing, but it looks like Makassar is the objective.

Borneo
At Tarakan the invasion continues and we hit the Cl Oi (belt armour) and an already damaged xAK with CD Guns. The two units (Recon Regt and Tk Regt) then shock attack and loose badly. Tarakan holds and it looks like they will have to bring in more forces.

Philippines
No Change.

A sub outside Davao hits but no explosion on an xAK.

East DEI
A strong bombardment TF hits Samuluki. This has some Dutch and a USA BF fragment on it! real overkill... they must be worried!

Naval bombardment of Saumlaki at 78,117

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso
BB Nagato
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami

Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Port hits 12

They also a attack with Betty's. We counter with Marauders from Darwin hitting the ground troops to good effect.

Over Darwin an unescorted Betty raid is shot down almost to a plane by P40's! Someone hit ground attack but not the destination methinks...

I expect the entire Daitai is combat ineffective...

Pacific
Our CV's don't find anything, and don't get detected.

China
Still a mess for us :(

Cheers

Rob

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/12/2009 10:16:21 PM

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Analysis
All they combat indications are there that our actions in the DEI have now caused Joe and Nik to change to a very cautious approach...

Now that Singapore has fallen where do those forces go...

a. Philippines to resume the stalled ofensive? Unlikely as this isn't causing them any hassle... maybe we should mve the B-17 back in :)

b. Burma/India/Ceylon. Sigint indicates the 19th Div is preping for an attack on Port Blair (which is empty).

c. Java. Indications are that they will take the south eastern approach on Java.

d. Also where are the SNLF (one is now on Samulaki off Darwin being hammered by air).

I expect that the bulk of the forces will now deploy to Burma/Ceylon/India area of operations. He has Rangoon, and it is trashed. He knows we have retreated inland and have built up strong lines... he may think we have committed extra forces to Burma (which we haven't). I think they would like to achieve a "Milestone" in the game... which all leads me to think they will try an Attack on Ceylon.

Our Defence of Ceylon consists of largely not being their, and defending the Mainland instead, where we can move forces around. We are putting Dutch troops in to Garrison cities freeing up a large Indian Army around Madras.

The intent to to turn Ceylon into a Japanese POW camp.

Our CV's will stay in the IO so that he has to heavily escort every convoy to get it through...

The main combat indicator is KB.

They still have a problem in the SWPAC. They haven't progressed much at all here, are on the defensive and have a CV in their rear areas...

Once they get a foothold on Java KB and Mini KB are free... do they do SWPAC then India, or India.

If the former they risk too much for any India attack, and then have to focus on Burma.

If the later it gives us an opportunity in the Pacific...

We I get the main turn back I may have some other thoughts :)

Cheers

Rob

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/13/2009 10:52:11 PM

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In an unexpected move the force that took Koepang transited around the south western tip of the Celbes near Makassar and landed at Balikpapan.

On the way they ran into PT's twice and may loose a DD (Shiratsuyu, but she will probably make it to Kendari) and did looses a DWS.

Here is a pic. I will cover the main battle later:

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/13/2009 10:53:52 PM

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During the invasion of Balikpapan the CD guns had a good day :)

Invasion Support action off Balikpapan

20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAK Nichiyu Maru, Shell hits 2
CA Ashigara
PB Uruboko Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
PB Tonon Maru, Shell hits 1
PB Showa Maru #3, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Nichi Maru #1
PB Kyo Maru #7, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Kyo Maru #6, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Gamitsu Maru #1
PB Fumi Maru #3, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/13/2009 11:29:16 PM

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Burma
No Change

Malaya
All Japanese.

Sumatra
Will try to pull out some more forces.

Java
Preparing for the assault, not long to go now....

East DEI
After another two days of battles, bombing from Betties from Kendari and planes from KB the defence finally crumbles. It was KB that did the dead, virtually destroying the coastal gun unit.

Balikpapan is invaded with the TF from Koepang. The escorting PB's get hammered (see post above). At the same time forces land against light opposition at Samarinda. Both bases should fall fairly quickly as they have bought more than enough force.

The battle for Saumlaki (7 hex nth of Darwin) finally ends. Our planes sortie against the transports and the BB covering force but don't hit anything :(

Philippines
We recapture Naga in the south of Luzon.

SWPAC
We continue to bomb the troops at Lae and Buna... I feel sorry for the poor pixels...

Pacific
One of our TF near Suva is intercepted by a Japanese sub, which misses.

Our CV TF is still undetected I think, but I think we may have detected a Convoy... We may move closer to the Philippines as i saw a convoy heading to Legapasi, KB must be low on Fuel and air ops so risk is low.

China
The Japanese attack at Loyang Dropping the forts one, but still getting 1:5 and loose 1400 Casualties to our 3500, on the second day a unit crossing? Sets off a shock attack at 0-99 odss and they loose 3600 Casualties to our 600.

At Wuchang we had been sieging the place, but they attack and get 2:1 so all our guys retreat and we loose 16000 casualties for our efforts :(

Analysis
The East DEI is now almost cleaned up, soon they will move to Java... The question is will KB remain or will it support the initial landings... we expect the later, which gives us some breathing space else where.

Our CV raid in the Pacific has been disappointing so far :(

The minor victories in the Philippines are good for Morale... but in the end don't mean much. I am tempted to move some bombers there... maybe the Marine Dauntless sqn off the CV.... A token gesture but could be fun :)

China as always hurts as allies against a competent player. Arty units are too cheap, too effective and bombardments not expensive enough supply wise... that was one area in AE beta testing that we spent some time with but in the end couldn't get any significant improvements without a fundamental rethink.. in a project that was already well overdue... ah well, it will work in the Allies advantage later!

Cheers

Rob

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/17/2009 5:30:22 AM

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14 Feb 1942 - City of Loyang China. War council Meeting GEN Chiang, JingCha War area Army senio officer.

Operations Briefing:
"Gentlemen today the enemy attacked us and while we easily held them (1:5 odds) the enemy artillery inflicted severe casualties on our forces. We did however inflict casualties on their forces, in particular the 59th brigade suffered badly during their river crossing (1:99 odds). Our forces are in fair shape and have reasonable supply, however our guns are being attited by the enemy arty, and we lack ammunition."

Intelligence Briefing:
"Gentlemen, the enemy has significant artillery advantage, and Armour. However we estimate that they only have an infantry strength of 1.5 divisions, most of which is fatigued and heavily disrupted by today’s actions.

Fresh enemy forces are advancing from the SW and we anticipate that they will be here in 3-5 days and will add 1-2 division of infantry."

The generals then huddle for several hours discussing options and futures. The auguries are read and finally, late at night the auguries’ are read and the final decision is made...

"The city will not withstand the combined attack of the forces coming at us, therefore me must attack in the morning, defeat the enemy at our gates now and through them back across the river. Gentlemen issue orders and we attack at 1000"

Japanese camp, outside Loyang:

Col of Cavalry Kato slapped his inebriated class mate, Col of Infantry Sato, on the back... "The Cavalry shall lead tomorrow, I look forward to showing you the best girls we you finally arrive several hours after us in the city... they are unlikely to be fresh though as my men have a real hunger..."

15 Feb 1942 - Loyang China.

CAPT Chen, Battalion commander SE sector - After Action Report.

"At daybreak while our men where having the morning meal, the Japanese attacked. With Armour leading they broke into the forward areas. I ordered our anti tank teams into action, and slowly one by one we managed to knock out the enemy tanks, the enemy infantry appeared unwilling to support their armour. I lost almost half my battalion as the men threw themselves under, onto and finally into the enemy machines.

We fought like lions scratching and clawing, like monkeys gripping and yelling, and finally we turn the turtles over one by one..."

COL Sun, Regiment Commander SE Sector - After Action Report

"At the appointed hour we began our attack. passing the remains of the enemy vehicles we charged onto the enemy infantry. Our martial vigour demoralised the enemy and they fled. Screaming like Banshees we held onto their tails... when we came to the enemy gun lines my men renewed their attack against the dragons that had killed friends, destroyed homes and ruined the country side."

Ground combat at Loyang (87,43)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23201 troops, 316 guns, 313 vehicles, Assault Value = 546

Defending force 69082 troops, 323 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1788

Japanese adjusted assault: 289

Allied adjusted defense: 268

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
772 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 74 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 47 (2 destroyed, 45 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
6557 casualties reported
Squads: 78 destroyed, 151 disabled
Non Combat: 123 destroyed, 167 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 22 disabled
Guns lost 31 (7 destroyed, 24 disabled)

Assaulting units:
12th Tank Regiment
110th Division
59th Infantry Brigade
4th Tank Regiment
12th Army
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
38th Chinese Corps
93rd Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
43rd Chinese Corps
61st Chinese Corps
80th Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
9th Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps
8th Group Army
Jingcha War Area
4th Group Army
36th Group Army
14th Group Army
15th Group Army
4th Chinese Base Force

Ground combat at Loyang (87,43)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 56404 troops, 318 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1495

Defending force 25223 troops, 316 guns, 371 vehicles, Assault Value = 492

Allied adjusted assault: 545

Japanese adjusted defense: 202

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
9210 casualties reported
Squads: 192 destroyed, 82 disabled
Non Combat: 341 destroyed, 177 disabled
Engineers: 15 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 44 (30 destroyed, 14 disabled)
Vehicles lost 131 (89 destroyed, 42 disabled)
Units retreated 13

Allied ground losses:
1672 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 64 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 85 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

I don't know how we did that

but finally we have won a decent battle in China! It should take a while for them to make up the losses in guns and Armour. Unfortunately the enemy have appeared from the SW, so we can't follow up

Cheers

Rob

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/17/2009 5:50:14 AM

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16-17 Feb 1942

Burma
No Change. We are preparing to fall back, but it looks like they have limited units in the area of operations so they are waiting for reinforcements.

Sumatra
They continue to run around cleaning up the area. we propose no further action. here.

Off the coast at Cocos Island we have set up a secret sub base. We have an AS here, fuel and supply so we can service the short ranged Dutch subs.

Java
We are now pulling back to our prepared defences at Bandoeng and Malang, both mountain airfield hex's.

Borneo
In a series of bloody actions the unsuppressed CD guns at Balikpapan hit and sink 6 PB's and Hit and badly damage two xAK. But as expected the base falls to the two divisions that are assaulting it... next stop Java?

East DEI
Marauders from Darwin hit the xAP Hakone Maru with 2x 500lb bombs while loading troops from Samulaki. Aircraft also attack the BBs in the same area. We have moved some more recently arrived aircraft to Darwin to continue to harass these forces.

Philippines
the arty bombardments continue, we are generally doing better.

At Legaspi their are now 5 units, it looks like these have been flown in or air transported in. Out Divisions will now have to retreat back to where it came, a brief success :(

SWPAC
No change.

Pacific
Our CV raid sights ships but doesn't launch an attack. I think KB or mini KB is now on the way, so time to flee east... very annoying that we didn't get ANYTHING!!!!!!

NORPAC
Adak Island now secure with lots of forces and supply unloading.

Analysis
Time to get the CV out of Dodge. The CV Hornet has arrived on East coast and has been ordered to Capetown via the off map route. This gives us 3 US CV in the IO with a Brit CV. our last CV in the Pacific will try another raid later...

The victory in China is unexpected and welcome. If we can get a couple more like that we may turn the tide. China is balanced on a knife edge. Brining in more force on either side tends to tip (Like extra arty for the Japanese), but if the Chinese can win a couple then they can tip the balance the other way...

Lots of air units have arrived in Australia, almost more than we can handle. Ground reinforcements are on the way to Australia and Fiji. Another week and we should be well set defensively.

Tony is now on a plane to Paris then Brussels, so I get to play the entire game for the next week or so!

Cheers

Rob

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/20/2009 5:57:36 AM

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/20/2009 6:07:12 AM

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Tony is away overseas so I'm running the whole game for a couple of weeks.

While conducting a review I was thinking about the problem we have in the Timor sea nth of Darwin.

Here a third of a Japanese Div is going around gobbling up dot hases, some of which have small stay behind forces. We have been using Maruaders and Hudsons to attack the shipping, whihc is protected by 4 or so BB's and some CA's. Our planes normally attack the BB's, to no effect, but occasionally hit the transports, so overall it is worth it, and I like being annoying as the Allied player.... then I had a brainwave...

At Townsville I had a recently arrived Marine SB2U-3 Vindicator unit doing naval training. They carry 100lb SAP bombs to within the range that the Japanese ships are operating... so a quick air transfer to Darwin and the following is the result...

Morning Air attack on TF, near Babar at 76,117

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB2U-3 Vindicator x 16

Allied aircraft losses
SB2U-3 Vindicator: 9 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Bomb hits 3
CA Mogami
BB Ise
BB Hyuga, Bomb hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x SB2U-3 Vindicator diving from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Morning Air attack on TF, near Babar at 76,117

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAP Argentina Maru
AMC Saigon Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Babar at 76,117

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB2U-3 Vindicator x 12

Allied aircraft losses
SB2U-3 Vindicator: 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 1
BB Hyuga, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Morning Air attack on TF, near Babar at 76,117

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB2U-3 Vindicator x 11

Allied aircraft losses
SB2U-3 Vindicator: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano, Bomb hits 1
BB Ise
CA Mogami, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 1

Morning Air attack on TF, near Babar at 76,117

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Taifuku Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires

Morning Air attack on TF, near Babar at 76,117

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 5

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK India Maru
xAK Teiryu Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Babar at 76,117

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB2U-3 Vindicator x 6

Allied aircraft losses
SB2U-3 Vindicator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 1

I guess they will have to LRCAP now, and while no ship will sink a couple should be in repair yards for a while, just when soon they need every BB and CA...

Another tactical victory :)

Cheers

Rob

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/20/2009 6:38:48 AM

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Actually, I would add that if you get the raiding CVs out of Dodge City successfully whilst drawing the KB north to hunt them unsuccessfully (as per post #102), that would also be a significant tactical victory, because the odds would be that the enemy surface combat TF in the Timor Sea would otherwise have been accompanied by enemy CVs.

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/20/2009 6:51:08 AM

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Burma
Tougoo falls.

We are moving forces into the border area, but don't plan on crossing the mountains yet. The Aussies are on their way, they will be comitted in SEASIA in return for the Brit Div defending Darwin.

Malaya
No Change

Sumatra
Oosthaven falls.

Java
Forces mving into position.

Borneo

No Change

Philippines
Lots of action sub wise.

The SS Seawolf attacks part of KB near Davao... but misses.

We also attack some xAK near Davao, no hits.

Davao still appears to be the main forward base, hopefully the damaged BB's will head here...

East DEI
Zero sweeps attack and hit PT's near Makassar.

Several Jap BB's hit (see above post for detail).

139WH-3 operating from Sorebaya hit an xAK off Makassar.

SWPAC
No change, hitting Lae and Buna, good experiance.

Part of the 6th RAA coastal defence unit has arrived at PM (10 x 6" guns). The 8th Marines are being ferried in by air. Plenty of supply, and the II US Fighter group is approaching Australia, yet to decide to comit to Darwin or PM... probably the later. PM is still vulnerable, but with almost 300AV and the coastal guns it will be a tough nut...

Pacific
No change. Forces moving to PH and Suva only. Supply moving to bases.

NORPAC
Adak Island now secure, 87th mountain regt arriving, and engineers. Very happy with this outcome. Won't go any further forward at this stage, but Adak is key to this area. Will base the raiding CV from here for a while.

Japan
Subs operating (from NORPAC) against the resource convoys attack several times and hit an xAK.

Analysis
A good turn in the DEI.

Our subs are causing a nuisence everywhere.

Part of KB still in the DEI, but suspect part has moved on (chaing our raiding CV? it has fled).

Forces arriving at Suva and Australia mean that these locations are now (mostly) secure. It would take a major effort now to dislodge.

Norpac is secure as a base of future operations, focus on defence now. Need some airpower, but that will have to wait another month or so.

Cheers

Rob

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/21/2009 8:48:01 PM

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Another good turn.

Last turn I suddenly found that my raiding CV wasn't that far from the resource areas of Hokkaido, had basically full fuel, and my subs had detected a couple of nice fat resource convoys.

Both KB and Mini KB was detected at Davao.

I didnd't expect them to have any strike aircraft in the area, and if they did they almost certainly wouldn't have an air HQ, or long range fighters...

So I deceided the risk was worth the possible return

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Etorofu at 128,52

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 10
SBD-3 Dauntless x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AO Shiriya, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk

Morning Air attack on TF, near Etorofu at 128,52

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 10
SBD-3 Dauntless x 30
TBD-1 Devastator x 15

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged
TBD-1 Devastator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Sazanami
DD Ushio

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kushiro at 123,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 10
SBD-3 Dauntless x 30

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAKL Hokuhi Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Natsukawa Maru, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Karimo Maru
xAKL Daiten Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Hoko Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Toyokuni Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Hoki Maru

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Etorofu at 128,52

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-1 Dauntless x 18
TBD-1 Devastator x 13

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-1 Dauntless: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Sazanami, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Ushio, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Getting the AO and the two DD's was a very nice bonus!

I'm almost tempted to hang around and do a port attack on Kushiro as it doesn't have much in the way of engineers, so damage will impact loading of resources and take a while to fix... thoughts?

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/21/2009 8:56:16 PM

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Great strike, but it probably isn't a good idea to hang around too long. He'll have quite a bit of aircraft training in Japan that he can move against your CV quickly.

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/21/2009 9:15:46 PM

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22-23 Feb 1942 part 2

Lots of sub action again around Davao. Lots of attacks and misses but two succesful engagements on xAK's. There are about 5-7 subs constanly around this area. The naoow entrance into the harbour ensures that the subs get lots of action.

Burma
No Change

East DEI
Again we hit the BB's that are slowly escorting invasion TF back to Kendari. There is almost no flak as they are out of AA ammo. The bombs again don't penetrate but we knock out turrets and cause more systems damage (see image below).

Philippines
No change. We are causing around 200 casulties at Clark every bombardment. I'm tempted to move forces over and try an attack at Cabanatuan. I have pulled some forces back to Manila to rest and recover... but sigint indicates some arty from Malaya is on its way ... so i need to do something soon, or just accept their fate.

SWPAC
No change.

Pacific
No Change

Norpac
87th Mountain unloaded at Adak. Now should have about 150 AV (which will grow to about 200 AV at the 87th fills out). lvl1 forts now which I will build to 4. Have an arty unit (was west coast comd) on its way with guns...

Am happy with this as it will take a major operation to netralise/remove these forces.

China
Mostly stable at the moment. After the A$$ kicking at Loyang the Japanese have pulled back, but are trying to flank. We don't plan anything offensive at the moment, just building and recovering forces where we can to make a decent field army... plus we will wait for the Japanese "invasion bonus" to wear off (that gives a planning bonus to the Japanese).

Anaylsis
The Japanese CV foces appear to be still concentrated at Davao. With the amount of shipping going in and out (and occasionaly hit by our subs) it looks like this force will soon be ready for offensive action. The question is will they go for Darwin (possible, but unlikely, and we are well prepared) or will they go for Java (likely, and not much we can do).

I expect they will wait about another 6-10 days for the BB's to get back, rearm/refuel and maybe repair a bit.

SWPAC is still very quiet. about 4 days ago we sent in a CA tf to hit Tulagi... as soon as the CV's head back into the DEI that force will again sortie, to either Tulagi or Shortlands.

The loss of 2 DD's and the AO (obviously positioned to support actions in NORPAC) will hurt them and significantly impact on there ability to conduct offensive operations in theNORPAC AO. With Adak now secure I'm thinking that this AO is currently offering the most opportunities for offensive action in late 1942 early 1943 (well mid 43 in the "summer" months).

Our CV force is slowly concentrating at Perth. But with both KB's together there is no opporunity for them. I'm thinking of switching them to the East Coast Australia and launching them on the SWPAC...

Our raider CV will continue to operate :)

Cheers

Rob

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/21/2009 9:18:25 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Smeulders

Great strike, but it probably isn't a good idea to hang around too long. He'll have quite a bit of aircraft training in Japan that he can move against your CV quickly.

Yes that is the concern, but I think Hokkaido can only support about 24 AV, no AirHQ and we are operating with a full fighter complement at long range for Zero's (and we have killed enough of them to ensure that the HI groups probably don't have Zero)...

Well that is the counter thoughts anyway... It is still a 50/50 call in my mind, so I'd love more feedback and thoughts!

Cheers

Rob

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/22/2009 8:20:33 AM

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Even though there would be some risk attached, I would go on with the attack (but immediately leave after one strike) for the following reasons:

(1) I agree that I doubt you will find much offensive enemy LBA on Hokkaido - it will be present at the front lines.

(2) At this point in time the raid will probably still come as a surprise to your opponents - it is one thing for the Japanese player to entertain at the back of his mind the theoretical possibility that an Allied CV raid on his SLOC might occur when the KB is occupied elsewhere, but to launch a raid against the Home Islands in February 1942 is probably completely beyond comprehension.

(3) An attack against the Home Islands can not be dismissed as easily as a raid against SLOCs - it will haunt the Japanese into keeping a local reserve to deal with a repeat maneouvre, units which normally would be used at the schwerpunkt.

(4) Following on from (3), you may tempt your opponents to move some units currently earmarked for frontline operations (eg the KB/mini KB) out of position and be wasted going on a wild goose chase after the Allied raiding CV TF - also see following comment.

On a related point, I wouldn't yet move your Perth CVs away from potential targets in the DEI. I would at least wait to see what happens to the KB. If it moves away from Davao either in search of the raiding Allied CV TF, or after completing its next mission in the DEI, you would have an opportunity to strike in their wake (and again perhaps encourage your opponentts to change orders in midstream).

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/22/2009 11:17:26 AM

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Thanks Alfred,

quote:

ORIGINAL: Alfred

Even though there would be some risk attached, I would go on with the attack (but immediately leave after one strike) for the following reasons:

(1) I agree that I doubt you will find much offensive enemy LBA on Hokkaido - it will be present at the front lines.

Yes, and Hokkaido can't support much air anyway, and no AirHQ means no torps, and anything else won't sink a CV...

quote:

(2) At this point in time the raid will probably still come as a surprise to your opponents - it is one thing for the Japanese player to entertain at the back of his mind the theoretical possibility that an Allied CV raid on his SLOC might occur when the KB is occupied elsewhere, but to launch a raid against the Home Islands in February 1942 is probably completely beyond comprehension.

Well If I were them it would cause me a lot of grief, plus it should force them to comit some CV's that way (Mini KB?). OTOH they may read it for what it is, a distraction from their main effort, and the worst is over...

quote:

(3) An attack against the Home Islands can not be dismissed as easily as a raid against SLOCs - it will haunt the Japanese into keeping a local reserve to deal with a repeat maneouvre, units which normally would be used at the schwerpunkt.

I agree.

quote:

(4) Following on from (3), you may tempt your opponents to move some units currently earmarked for frontline operations (eg the KB/mini KB) out of position and be wasted going on a wild goose chase after the Allied raiding CV TF - also see following comment.

I doubt they will, but in case I'm moving anyway :)

quote:

On a related point, I wouldn't yet move your Perth CVs away from potential targets in the DEI. I would at least wait to see what happens to the KB. If it moves away from Davao either in search of the raiding Allied CV TF, or after completing its next mission in the DEI, you would have an opportunity to strike in their wake (and again perhaps encourage your opponentts to change orders in midstream).

Alfred

I need to wait at least 16 days for the Brit CV to turn up, and the Hornet? is in transit... it is tempting though to switch flanks to support a raid in the SWPAC, then switch back... actually I think I probably will next turn (have alreday sent the turn).

The CV raider I'm moving to near Shimushi, and I will port attack Etorofu, before I go home... But I expect to be back... and soon!

In another cunning move I found Maruaders can reach Manila from Darwin... so I've sent in a experianced ship hunting squadron to force them to deploy fighters in the Philippines.

In Burma I'm going to start hitting the slowly advancing Japanese ground units.

Aim is try try to get them to spread out their combat power, so we can attempt to hit one area with at least parity.

Cheers

Rob

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/22/2009 9:32:04 PM

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24-25 Feb 1942
A quiet turn.

A few sub attacks, in particular around Palembang, but no results.

East DEI
A CV group is near Makassar, not sure which one yet.

Philippines
The Marauders launch to no effect. I have moved forces from Clark to Cabuantuan, so I think I will ground attack then launch an attack.

CV Raid
Hits Etorofu over two days for good effect, time to go home now though.

China
An attack at Chuhsien is easily replused, but the forts are lowered. Overall China is quiet at the moment, maybe I need to stir it up a bit...

Ground combat at Chuhsien (88,56)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 32234 troops, 254 guns, 242 vehicles, Assault Value = 941

Defending force 21312 troops, 80 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 618

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 1120

Allied adjusted defense: 2014

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
967 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 102 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 64 (1 destroyed, 63 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1031 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 81 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Analysis
Looks like the preperation for Java is happening.

Cheers

Rob

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/24/2009 10:19:21 PM

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27-27 Feb 1942
Mostly Quiet

Burma
No Change. Our areas nth of the boarder are building forts and will soon start on airfields. Lots of new forces just arrived in India.

Sumatra
A Japanese tank unit hunting down routed unit in the south is repeatably hit from the air for great effect, they fail to even get 1:1 odds!

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/24/2009 10:25:05 PM

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East DEI
The PT boat hunting continues after they find another "nest".

Also in this picture you can see one of the stay behind bases. The TF there are two xAKL unloading supply.

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/24/2009 10:33:21 PM

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Philipines
The Marauders attack but they have bought in Zero's and Nates. even with escorts we don't do any good :( This experiment failed.

But we have now moved a lot of combat power from Clark to Cabanatuan. I may have enough for a shock attack...

Ground combat at Cabanatuan (80,76)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6673 troops, 108 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 456

Defending force 9088 troops, 47 guns, 55 vehicles, Assault Value = 242

Assaulting units:
57th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team
3rd/12th PA Inf Battalion
86th PS Coastal Artillery Battalion
31st PA Infantry Division
1st PA Infantry Division
45th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team
2nd PA Constabulary Regiment
USAFFE

Defending units:
65th Brigade
16th Recon Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Elsewhere I am resting and recovering 2 PA Divisions. We still hold resource areas so are producing supply. Manila is down to about 16k, but most of the forces are in fairly good shape.

Pacific
Lots of forces continue to unload at Suva.

NORPAC
Our CV raider returns to Dutch harbour and the adulation of the seals....

China
We recapture Tsiaotso against no opposition. The Army that we defeated at Loyang has fled with their tails between their teeth. Our forces are resting and recovering, but the Japanese are working our flanks.

At Hankow they hit us from the air and bombard... not much we can do

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/24/2009 10:41:50 PM

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Analysis

Where is KB/Mini KB? Last seen at Davao 5 days ago... Probably still in DEI, but could be moving to SWPAC.

Do I have enough force to get 1:1 at Cabanatuan with a shock attack... probably.

China, I need to prod the monster... but where.

After 3 months of war it is time to start preparing and concentrating forces. I am particularily excited by NORPAC, and am tempted to move more forces up north (from Hawaii?). Really need to develop some plans.

We are about where we need to be to consider offensive operations in 9 months. Darwin is secure, PM still in our hands and growing nicely, Suva secure and we own most of NORPAC. These staging areas are all capable of supporting offensive actions in the August/Septemeber timeframe.

I'm most interested in the DEI approach supported from Darwin.

I also like the concept of a NORPAC approach.

SWPAC is a bloody and long approach.

Pacific depends on CV superiority... something we won't have for at least 12 months...

But I need to wait for Tony to come back and talk about it.

Cheers

Rob

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/25/2009 10:32:16 PM

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29 Feb-1 Mar 1942

Well the big news is in the Philippines section...

Burma
No change

Malaya
A large "stack" is detected moving nth up the coast, probably destination Burma. This is interesting as it indicates they don't want to risk a seaborne reinforcement...

At Singapore our subs over the last few turns have been making a nuisance of themselves, not hitting anything though. a CL and DD's are detected here this turn.

Sumatra
We continue to hit the tank unit from the air to good effect.

Rest of DEI
Quiet. my supply convoys are moving around, and troops are being repositioned. Subs and PT's are refuelling rearming repairing in Sorebaya. There are no TF's detected. I have moved two 3 aircraft units back to Ambon to provide surveillance.

Philippines
The shock attack came off, Dugout Doug was personally on the scene and done good...

Ground combat at Cabanatuan (80,76)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 13989 troops, 204 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 455

Defending force 9061 troops, 47 guns, 55 vehicles, Assault Value = 243

Allied adjusted assault: 357

Japanese adjusted defense: 101

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2924 casualties reported
Squads: 45 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 57 destroyed, 72 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 36 (18 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Allied ground losses:
393 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
31st PA Infantry Division
1st PA Infantry Division
3rd/12th PA Inf Battalion
57th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team
86th PS Coastal Artillery Battalion
45th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team
2nd PA Constabulary Regiment
USAFFE

Defending units:
65th Brigade
16th Recon Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

At Clark our bombardments and counter bombardments are doing more damage than we receive by about 2-3:1

Supply is a problem, but it appears more so to the Japanese. They do have a large force building at Legaspi.

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/25/2009 10:42:25 PM

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China
Is fairly quiet. At Chuhsien they drop the the forts to 0 but still fail to get 1:1.

The below picture shows the battles around Loyang. After the defeat at Loyang they retreated NE to Tsiaotso. They then fled sth. They have now moved all the way around and joined up with other forces. They now appear to be advancing from the inland side against Loyang. At loyang we are resting and recovering. Taking Tsiaotso gives us another source of supply, but I expect they will throw us out of here soon.

At Sian our forces are ceovering about 50-100 AV a turn, now over 1900, with another 500 or so to go. Once ready they will advance sth... Am also moving some recently arrived forces at the capital this way.

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RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) - 10/26/2009 10:22:44 AM

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