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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 9:51:10 PM

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and TB and recon

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 9:52:47 PM

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Now on to merchant ship builds, but first I wanted to show that Musashi is progressing nicely and will finish very close to Yamato.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 9:54:58 PM

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First I want to show you that I have halted the CVEs to use the points on tankers.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 9:56:41 PM

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Building your merchant marine early, before the allied torpedoes get fixed is crucial to your survival. I have accelerated all of the 1942 tankers. Sad to say there aren't many of them.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 9:57:42 PM

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And if you lose the AOs in 1942, you don't get any until later in the war...

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 9:58:48 PM

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As mentioned earlier in the AAR, you also want to accelerate some of your APs.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 9:59:48 PM

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Here are your aux:

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 10:00:44 PM

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Akagi Maru is better as a troop ship than as a raider.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 10:01:34 PM

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Finally, here are the AKs that come in the next year:

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 10:03:37 PM

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Remember, even if it looks like a lot of cargo ships now and you feel like you don't need to accelerate the specialty ships (tankers and AP) then remember that every hull consumes fuel when it sails. That means that if you can do the tasks using fewer ships you will be better off.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 10:05:21 PM

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While we are on a related topic, Here is where I am burning my initial limited stocks of mines...I want a defensive barrier to protect the Sea of Japan. Unlike witp, I will have lots of small convoys moving back and forth to Korea hauling resources.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 10:06:32 PM

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Here is what my pilot replacement pool looks like

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 10:07:19 PM

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Here are the ships that were sunk this turn:

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 10:08:09 PM

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And here is an update on the Haruna as she steams back to Cam Ranh Bay:

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 10:12:32 PM

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As always, comment if there is something that you want to see or discuss.

Hopefully this AAR will provide useful info for everyone, both allied and Japanese players alike. On one hand you can see how good you are doing relative to me in the game. Likewise, you can see that Japan (at least not the human played Japan) is not the invincible empire that can shrug off losses.

I only count myself as a mediocre player anyways. I learn more by sharing comments than anything else. I also tend to like maps and pictures over text combat reports as they don't always convey the strategic situation. I hope that many of the people reading feel the same way.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 10:20:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: stuman

Graduated from Public Schools here, and from U of M. I am hoping that our new Mayor ( probably Wharton ) will help. Herenton was a hinderance. I have been wargaming since my first Avalon Hill game back in the late 60's. My brother and I spent many, many hours playing all sorts of titles. Great memories

I am pulling for you in this AAR. You are certainly correct in that if one is going to attack Russia, it has to be done immediately.

U of M '88 graduate myself. Go Tigers Go!

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 10:27:08 PM

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Great AAR! I love all your attention to detail, all your visual aids really help me understand Japan's and the War's situation perfectly. After having done an AAR for another game before, I understand how much effort it takes. Thank you for this AAR, I have been refreshing and checking the AAR section for any updates all day, i'm hooked!

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And here is an update on the Haruna as she steams back to Cam Ranh Bay:

Hahahahahahaha

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 10:42:14 PM

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You are still producing Ki-36 Idas?

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 10:44:23 PM

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I know you wanted to keep the whereabouts of KB secret. However, do you think using KB to Port Strike Manila might have been useful? If nothing else you could have killed the majority of the Asiatic Fleet at port, then retreated KB into the mist. Even with the high dud rate, effectively used subs can still be a very effective nuisance to Japanese shipping. Some of them do explode, and any unescorted merchies are likely to be attacked on the surface. Even if a sub uses its full complent of torps to kill a single ship, its worth it for the allies. Plus, you never know when a lucky hit will put a fish in a CV or BB.

Obviously I don't know how effective your opponent is at sub ops, but a little bit of time spent with them by the Allies can pay big dividends.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 11:25:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: Monter_Trismegistos

You are still producing Ki-36 Idas?

Yes I am until I use up all the engines. Japan starts with 332 Hitachi(early) engines and the only two planes that need them are the Ida and the Theresa, which has to be the worst transport in the game. In fact, I disbanded the Theresa units on turn one because the aircraft were not worth the AV support needed to take care of them and they took up valuable real estate on the airfield.

The Ida is actually useful in the game for attacking ground units on the mainland, coastal ASW, and as trainers for other bomber pilots (as long as you have PDU on).

After the engines are gone I will convert the factory to something else.

Besides, if I did change the factory over right now, I would be consuming precious supply repairing it. Later on, it will be much clearer what I need to use the factory for (although it will possibly be Helens).

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/7/2009 11:49:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: Astarix

I know you wanted to keep the whereabouts of KB secret.� However, do you think using KB to Port Strike Manila might have been useful?� If nothing else you could have killed the majority of the Asiatic Fleet at port, then retreated KB into the mist.� Even with the high dud rate, effectively used subs can still be a very effective nuisance to Japanese shipping.� Some of them do explode, and any unescorted merchies are likely to be attacked on the surface.� Even if a sub uses its full complent of torps to kill a single ship, its worth it for the allies.� Plus, you never know when a lucky hit will put a fish in a CV or BB.

Obviously I don't know how effective your opponent is at sub ops, but a little bit of time spent with them by the Allies can pay big dividends.

I normally won't risk the KB like this early because it is hard to replace the aircraft this early and the risk of a lucky hit on one of my carriers could hurt. The AA is heavy at Manila, initially there are enough P-40s that some will get through to your Kates/Vals, and the allies do have those B-17s that can reach out and lucky hit you as well.

Aside from that, I dump mines at Bataan on turn 1, then move both subs and surface combat task forces into the Sulu Sea to catch the fleeing ships. In fact, in this game I like to kill most of the fleeing ships like this since it helps build experience for my cruiser and destroyer crews.

Usually, on turn 1 or two, I will direct my initial Betty and Nell strikes to Cavite (Manila) and then pound it down pretty good. In this game, I was certain that he would evacuate the port on turn 1 since surprise was off that I bombed Clark instead. He didn't initially evacuate, so on turn 3 I hit the port and sank several ships. I then bombed it for a few more turns. As predicted it flushed most of his ships and I bagged them as they escaped, getting just about every one of them.

My opponent has been very reserved with his subs. He has made several attacks at Pescadores, Takao, Vigan, Aparri, and Surgaio but just about all of the torpedoes have been duds. I have not accounted for 2/3 of his subs and they have not yet turned up off the coast of Japan. I am wondering if he has sent them straight to Pearl to preserve them until the torpedoes work better or to Java to defend there.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/8/2009 12:11:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: seydlitz

I normally won't risk the KB like this early because it is hard to replace the aircraft this early and the risk of a lucky hit on one of my carriers could hurt. The AA is heavy at Manila, initially there are enough P-40s that some will get through to your Kates/Vals, and the allies do have those B-17s that can reach out and lucky hit you as well.

Aside from that, I dump mines at Bataan on turn 1, then move both subs and surface combat task forces into the Sulu Sea to catch the fleeing ships. In fact, in this game I like to kill most of the fleeing ships like this since it helps build experience for my cruiser and destroyer crews.

Usually, on turn 1 or two, I will direct my initial Betty and Nell strikes to Cavite (Manila) and then pound it down pretty good. In this game, I was certain that he would evacuate the port on turn 1 since surprise was off that I bombed Clark instead. He didn't initially evacuate, so on turn 3 I hit the port and sank several ships. I then bombed it for a few more turns. As predicted it flushed most of his ships and I bagged them as they escaped, getting just about every one of them.

My opponent has been very reserved with his subs. He has made several attacks at Pescadores, Takao, Vigan, Aparri, and Surgaio but just about all of the torpedoes have been duds. I have not accounted for 2/3 of his subs and they have not yet turned up off the coast of Japan. I am wondering if he has sent them straight to Pearl to preserve them until the torpedoes work better or to Java to defend there.

That makes sense. Given your planning, I can completely understand the desire to preserve the pilots and airframes.

I still think it would be worth your opponents time to make better use of his subs. Despite the dud rate they still can score some significant hits and create headaches for the JFB. Although, even with the new patrol and way-point features it can still take a lot of time to maximize sub ops, so he may not feel its worth it given the dud rates. Granted I'm only playing vs. the AI right now, but I think your opponent is missing a significant opportunity to create some headaches for you.

Thanks for the explanation and I'll be visiting this AAR frequently.

Jason

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/8/2009 12:32:41 AM

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I'm reading your AAR with great interest as your IJ stategy is atypical. I'm waiting to see if success against the Soviets is possible. Soviet activation is awkward in AE. I suspect the Devs thought it would be crazy to try and the Soviets were in the game to keep the Kwangtung Army honest.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/8/2009 3:54:29 AM

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I took a look at the situation in Russia, and I don't see very much oil or resources.

So although what is there is useful, is the real reason for a Russia attack really freeing up troops for China or elsewhere?

If so, what are your plans for the extra troops assuming a successful campaign?

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/8/2009 4:04:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: Takeshi

I'm reading your AAR with great interest as your IJ stategy is atypical. I'm waiting to see if success against the Soviets is possible. Soviet activation is awkward in AE. I suspect the Devs thought it would be crazy to try and the Soviets were in the game to keep the Kwangtung Army honest.

The Red Army setup is strong. Makes you realize what an impact on the war the stalemate in the Far East had.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/8/2009 5:46:57 AM

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I just ran turn 20 (December 26, 1941).

Most of the action was on the Russian Front. Both of us were active with our air.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/8/2009 5:48:43 AM

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I started the turn off seeing the KB under attack.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/8/2009 5:57:10 AM

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He even got some bombers through to the Soryu.
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Okha at 130,37

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30

Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 10
I-153 x 1
SB-2 x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 2 destroyed
I-153: 1 destroyed
SB-2: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CV Soryu

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/8/2009 6:03:13 AM

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I pounded Vladivostok and Voroshilov by night and day.
Night Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 6
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 1 x 100 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

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Night Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Japanese aircraft
Ki-36 Ida x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-36 Ida: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29

Allied aircraft
I-153 x 14
I-16m24 x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 3 destroyed
I-16m24: 5 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 23000 feet

CAP engaged:
10 BABr-TOF/19 IAP with I-16m24 (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Raid is overhead
29 IAD/304 IAP with I-16m24 (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
70 IAD/305 IAP with I-16m24 (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
70 IAD/306 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
29 IAD/307 IAP with I-153 (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Raid is overhead
70 IAD/308 IAP with I-16m24 (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27

Allied aircraft
I-16m24 x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-16m24: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 26000 feet

CAP engaged:
29 IAD/304 IAP with I-16m24 (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
10 BABr-TOF/19 IAP with I-16m24 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 21
G4M1 Betty x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 8 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
SS ShCh-108, Bomb hits 1
DD Buistro, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Svyatozar, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
21 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
11 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 7000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 7000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

CAP engaged:
70 IAD/306 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes

Training flight from 70 IAD/306 IAP has been caught up in attack

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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 6

Allied aircraft
I-153 x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

CAP engaged:
10 BABr-TOF/19 IAP with I-16m24 (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
29 IAD/304 IAP with I-16m24 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
70 IAD/306 IAP with I-153 (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
29 IAD/307 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes

Training flight from 10 BABr-TOF/19 IAP has been caught up in attack
Training flight from 29 IAD/304 IAP has been caught up in attack
Training flight from 29 IAD/307 IAP has been caught up in attack

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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 21
Ki-27b Nate x 4

Allied aircraft
I-153 x 2
I-16m24 x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
I-16m24: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
29 IAD/304 IAP with I-16m24 (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
29 IAD/307 IAP with I-153 (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 2
I-153 x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 1 destroyed
I-153: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
34 SAD/47 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 1
I-153 x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 26000 feet

CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Raid is overhead
34 SAD/47 IAP with I-153 (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Raid is overhead
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Raid is overhead

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/8/2009 6:04:29 AM

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I hit some more of his ships in port, but still haven't made a dent.

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