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My wife has a question about service personel - 9/26/2009 6:00:01 AM   
darken92

 

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Status: offline 		My wife has been watching a show called Home Make Over, essentially some guys find a family to help and rebuild their house, often helping in other ways. Many have lost relatives fighting overseas.

My wife was shocked at the number of discharged US Military people who seem to have nothing. There seems to be a lack of any support structure for families of service men and women that are badly injured fighting overseas. Is this right?

Any one know what the benefits or pensions are like for service men and women, in particular to people injured or maimed in combat?
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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/26/2009 9:47:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Funnily enough (or not), I just watched a program done by the BBC. It was a documentary following two soldiers returned from Afghanistan...a Para and an Irish Ranger. The para was a triple amputee and the Irish Ranger lost both legs and lost partial site...both from EIDs.

The program didn't go into what happened after, but certainly during there rehab, they were extremely well looked after. Some of the best surgeons and physiotherapists in the country.

With regard to your specific question, though, as far as I'm aware, the financial benefits seem to be pretty poor. The UK is currently going through discussion on payments for injured soldiers. My general impression is they can stop taking a penny of my income tax and use it to increase the help to wounded soldiers.

What did come out of it though....the determination of these young men to return to normal life...normal being relative to their situation of course. The Para was determined to walk on his prosthetic legs to get his medal at the parade. He did it. Very, very touching and made me very proud.

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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/26/2009 2:29:08 PM   
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There seems to be a lack of any support structure for families of service men and women that are badly injured fighting overseas. Is this right?

Any one know what the benefits or pensions are like for service men and women, in particular to people injured or maimed in combat?


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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/26/2009 2:39:58 PM   
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My wife was shocked at the number of discharged US Military people who seem to have nothing.

There seems to be a lack of any support structure for families of service men and women that are badly injured fighting overseas.

Is this right?


I suspect it is...Corporations don´t like to share.

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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/26/2009 2:56:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are several Veteran's Service Organizations that can assist veterans in filing for veteran's benefits. I am a member of the Paralyzed Veterans of America and they have been very helpful over the years. There is also the Disabled American Veterans that can assist with a wider range of disabilities. All Veterans Organizations have Service Officers that can give a veteran all the information that they need and can assist them with programs witin the organization itself and through the Federal Government. There is plenty of help available but it is not widely advertised. All have regional offices that exist in most major cities throughout the country as well as websites with locations and phone numbers.

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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/26/2009 3:04:02 PM   
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... Any one know what the benefits or pensions are like for service men and women, in particular to people injured or maimed in combat?


In the US, service connected disabilities warrent a monthly check starting at abt $100 plus for a 10% disabilitity that increases incrementally up to 100% disabled.

All health care for Purple Heart vets at the local VA is free and w/o any co-payment for meds.

There is also the GI Bill, and in some states, veteran tuition waivers, tax deferrals, etc.

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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/26/2009 4:14:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sad to say but the UK does VERY little for our Vets compared to the US.Most of the work is done by Charities and the like,we no longer have a dedicated Military Hospital now the last one,RNH Haslar was closed.Even Bhutan has a dedicated Military Hospital!Having said this,the care our lads and lasses recieve is second to none,its just a shame our Gubbermint doesnt value them as much as they say they do!

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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/26/2009 7:23:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ike99


I suspect it is...Corporations don´t like to share.

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Ike99

The Iraq Oil Bonanza: Estimating Future Profits

After the Iraq War of 2003, United States and United Kingdom oil giants are certain to gain privileged access to Iraq's oil resources. Excluded from control over Iraqi oil since the nationalization of 1972, Exxon, BP, Shell and Chevron will now gain the lion's share of the world's most profitable oil fields. Few outside the industry understand the huge stakes in Iraq, which amount to tens of billions of dollars in total potential profits per year...

GE wins multi-billion dollar Iraq turbine deal

Iraqi Minister of Electricity, Kareem Waheed, has announced that his department has awarded the US utilities giant General Electric (GE) a multi billion dollar contract to build 56 power generation units...

Iraq opened the doors to foreign investment in its vast oil industry Monday, as it revealed the terms for contracts in its first round of oil bidding since the U.S.-led invasion of 2003.

Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani met with executives from 35 international oil companies in London, setting out the conditions of 20-year service contracts to develop six of the country's oil fields and two new natural-gas fields...






What does this have to do with the subject of this thread?



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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/26/2009 9:54:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is quite a bit available, but a lot of it doesn't seem to be doled out very well at the moment. A number of military/ex-mil bloggers have been sharing the issues they've had with GI Bill education benefit checks right now, for example.

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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/27/2009 2:24:31 AM   
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My wife was shocked at the number of discharged US Military people who seem to have nothing. There seems to be a lack of any support structure for families of service men and women that are badly injured fighting overseas. Is this right?


No, it's not.



Hey, Ike, when you don't knhow WTF you're blabbering about, just STFU, OK?

When we want to know what sort of veteran's benefits the Argentinian army gives out to their conscripted cannon fodder, we'll let you know.

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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/27/2009 4:02:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting topic, An Australian point of view from our local paper, not promising!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/forgotten-war-widow-broke/story-e6frf7jo-1225779929250

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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/27/2009 4:36:34 AM   
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Hey, Ike, when you don't knhow WTF you're blabbering about, just STFU, OK?


The point I´m trying to make Doggie is billions of dollars are being made here. It would only seem just for the veterans who made it possible to share in good war benefits especially those wounded for life.

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When we want to know what sort of veteran's benefits the Argentinian army gives out to their conscripted cannon fodder, we'll let you know.


One benefit our war veterans enjoy is they are exempt from paying government taxes for life. Can your cannon fodder say this? I think they can´t.

edited for civility.


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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/27/2009 5:07:56 AM   
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Any one know what the benefits or pensions are like for service men and women, in particular to people injured or maimed in combat?


Getting better. At least since the last election. Still a ways to go, though. The health care is okay for the most part, but a lot of the rest still sucks.

I forget the guy's name, but he was an American comedian who said (a few years back) that it was disgraceful how we treated our vets, especially the ones injured in combat - but then again, cowardly little faggots like George W. Bush resent people who REALLY suit the hell up and serve.

I'm a Cold War U. S. Navy vet (1975-81) and my hat's off to ALL of those men and women in uniform, wherever they're from.


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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/27/2009 5:46:30 AM   
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Getting better. At least since the last election. Still a ways to go, though. The health care is okay for the most part, but a lot of the rest still sucks.

I forget the guy's name, but he was an American comedian who said (a few years back) that it was disgraceful how we treated our vets, especially the ones injured in combat - but then again, cowardly little faggots like George W. Bush resent people who REALLY suit the hell up and serve.

I'm a Cold War U. S. Navy vet (1975-81) and my hat's off to ALL of those men and women in uniform, wherever they're from.


Hell yes.

Napoleon said a man will fight long and hard for a piece of colored cloth.

That´s fine when you are young and stupid but when your 40, missing body parts and trying to put bread on the table it doesn´t wash.

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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/27/2009 1:18:44 PM   
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... One benefit our war veterans enjoy is they are exempt from paying government taxes for life. Can your cannon fodder say this? I think they can´t.

edited for civility.


Speaking of "civility," as our Civil War vets can no longer speak for themselves:

"... One of the widest-ranging systems of social support in the United States prior to passage of the Social Security Act developed during the American Civil War (1861-1865).

In 1862, the federal government created a generous pension program for Union war veterans disabled in battle and for their families. Later amendments to this legislation gave benefits to Union veterans in their old age and to those disabled outside of battle. As extensive as this pension program was, it covered only a minor portion of the U.S. population, and it lasted only into the early 1900s."

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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/27/2009 1:48:07 PM   
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One benefit our war veterans enjoy is they are exempt from paying government taxes for life. Can your cannon fodder say this? I think they can´t.




I think it's wonderful that the brave defenders of the Malvinas are not required to pay taxes on what they make begging on the streets. How progressive. We can certainly appreciate the kind of altruism we've come to expect from a military junta that cares enough to adopt the orphans of political dissidents after they load them into a C-130 and drop them out over the south atlantic.

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RE: My wife has a question about service personel - 9/27/2009 2:00:16 PM   
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but then again, cowardly little faggots like George W. Bush resent people who REALLY suit the hell up and serve.


Family forum, no politics, etc. This applies to others on this thread as well. Locking it up.


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