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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/11/2010 6:01:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I must say I am quite displeased by Saxony's decision. Very strange. But oh well. My army isn't beaten just yet and some of the French were on the run for at least a bit :)


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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/12/2010 2:37:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm speculating that the Saxon's went the way the did because the Austrians didn't have a container army within 4 of Saxony. Then I suspect that maybe because the Prussians were allied to the Austrians is why they went with France. Then I would speculate that the they didn't go with the British because they have an enforced peace with the Prussians.

Ok, now I'm totally confused! I do know that it seems the more conflicts that occur, the more likely that a minor will declare for a protector.

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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/12/2010 2:47:43 PM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/12/2010 5:57:44 PM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/14/2010 3:21:56 PM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/15/2010 5:51:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dear all,

Austria has had a technical problem and is asking you for a turn rerun. I have had sent two copies of orders. The second one was created by opening the first and adding or reassuring myself of a depot add. For some reason that has cancelled all my move orders and that is in this situation particulary devasting error for the Austrians. I wasn't aware of this "feature" and I remember seeing light green arrows on my armies at that time. If there is another explanation of why my armies didn't move an inch, when they previously did so without problems (at least one space) do tell me.

I am asking the turn to be reran from my original set of orders not from something I would create right now. I am aware of the fact that you all can veto that and that it is a big favor to ask of but nevertheless I am desparing a bit with the might of three nations eating my territory :)



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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/15/2010 8:06:46 AM   
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Just in from work and haven't opened the files as yet, but if it's being rerun from orders already issued and as no one has yet sent in their next turns then I see no prblem there, apart from the fact that we have to wait a bit.

Tom your prob, I'm guessing is to do with messing with the files, as I have suggested elsewhere from both mine & other peoples experiances in both CoG & FoF, WCS files can be a bit ... err, fragile, 'Rule of Thumb' is don't mess with folders or files, possibly a better thing for you to have done was delete the orriginal and then redo the turn, but thats merely my thinking.

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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/15/2010 8:08:18 PM   
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Not sure on this, maybe I'm misreading the info, but from the post I'm taking it that Tom attempted to re-write a second turn over the 1st ie after the 'End Turn' on the 1st one had been activated, hence my speal above re messing with files.

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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/15/2010 9:05:47 PM   
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Austrian turn 37 sent

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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/15/2010 9:42:32 PM   
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Well then as I see it your 2nd file is as like as not to be buggered for orders then, ie the codeing will be fouled up as you are trying to write over an already finished file, ie after 'End turn'

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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/16/2010 3:45:22 AM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/16/2010 12:24:31 PM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/17/2010 5:02:45 AM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/17/2010 8:06:18 AM   
timurlain

 

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Oh boy, did I do many mistakes during the course of this war and game. I only hope to have a chance to learn from them yet.

To Montesaurus, I know/hope you mean it well telling me that Austria had fought that well, but my intelligence and instinct is telling me that that is just a kind way of giving some honor, because everything else has been taken :) It suited you extremely well that I was / am such fool (but that's obviously my fault, not yours - and I am not angry/upset though it may seem like it)
- Austrians didn't fight that well
- Saxony joining you was/ is lot better outcome than you'd have expected
- any good COGEE player would have surrendered the instant - it was dumb from me to fight, dumb, dumb (in the position my armies, economy were in)
- once fighting I have done big strategic and tactical mistakes - I was caught of guard and never recovered from it.
- the only good point is that I have managed not to loose my army :)

To all Monarchs,

Austria was easily defeated. I hope your worries about a strong Austrian powers are calmed. We have lost 9 territorries through this war (4 to Russia, 3 to france and 1 and 1 to Turkey and Spain I'd assume). We are now last on the rankings and I hope your decisions will now not be affected by how to harm Austria the most, but more so to do good to your nation.

I understand that defeat of Austria was essentialy a good thing for everyone because of its glory points. The only thing I don't understand, why have Britain and Prussia basically given the Triumvirate a very easy and cheap victory, by cheap I mean free in this case. I am unsure how that will be of any gain for you in the long run.

The French-Mediterran triumvirate will seek to expand in their due time, I wouldn't be worried about that not happening. We wish good luck to nations that might stand in their way. Austria won't be able to help to maintain the balance of power for at least two campaining seasons.

France is rich and can fund / fight any wars now. Even if you defeat ar attrition their armies, they will simply come back again. So please consider this when looking at Austria as a target next time.



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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/17/2010 11:12:19 AM   
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Sweden T38 sent in.

PS, I'm fine with Auto withdrawl at surrender unless otherwise stated beforehand.

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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/17/2010 9:16:07 PM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/17/2010 9:54:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will say I disagree that Austria should have done an immediate surrender. Austria was not fighting alone, her friends were just out of position to help her.

The French and allies did a good job of keeping their eye on the ball (ie. Vienna) but no doubt had some luck (the Saxons).

Our side had some bad luck (especially for initiative for moving).

Once the Spanish came in (not sure if that was the original plan or the reaction to others entering the war for Austria), the balance of power did change. Austria then reacted accordingly.

Look at things this way: you gained 5 free provinces when the papacy joined you, so your losing provinces isn't that bad. Your army, despite fighting, is intact. Your NM ain't bad at all (surprises me it isn't worse). Also, remember we only have 15+ years to go (I can't remember what year we on )

As far as last on the Glory rankings, Russia says welcome! It gets lonely down here by ourselves. I wouldn't expect you to be here long though.

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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/18/2010 2:55:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice response Ewalt! It puts a little bit of a different light on things!

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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/18/2010 8:43:11 AM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/18/2010 1:09:19 PM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/18/2010 6:22:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am a novice at this game, but it seems clear to me that there are LOTS of ups and downs. I am surprised to find Spain momentarily atop the "glory board", but I don't expect that to last!

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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/19/2010 3:10:49 AM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/19/2010 11:30:26 AM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/19/2010 2:21:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		To Spain: Well, well. Enjoy the target on your back and I hope it will make others consider attacking out of good sport like you did to me :) No, no you shouldn't be modest about your glory like I was.

Austrian turn sent in.

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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/22/2010 11:03:58 AM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/22/2010 2:31:05 PM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/23/2010 12:38:27 PM   
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RE: GoingAgain1792 - 2/23/2010 1:01:50 PM   
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Something funny in Sardinia? - 2/23/2010 10:08:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have noticed something and am wondering if what I am seeing is a bug, or if there is some other explanation I am missing, so any advice is welcome.

You may recall that Sardinia is a conquered province of Spain. I happened to notice about a "game-year" ago in the economic report that Sardinia was contributing no money to the Spanish economy; and I have checked every turn since then, and Sardinia has never contributed any money. (This may have been the case since we acquired the province; don't know for sure). Then this last turn, I checked the other items showing up for Sardinia in the economic report. That shows that Sardinia is contributing iron and something else (can't remember what); but the province development screen doesn't show Sardinia producing ANY of the items that are shown for Sardinia in the economic report.

Anyone have any idea what is happening?

--Dave

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RE: Something funny in Sardinia? - 2/24/2010 3:03:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Could be corruption or waste or whatever it is called, but I don't think so. The engine with this game is great, but I still find some of how the numbers are presented a bit obscure and nonintuitive.

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