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RE: Java Sea - 4/16/2010 10:49:08 PM   
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RE: Java Sea - 4/24/2010 6:41:20 PM   
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Imperial Plot: I haven't posted in awhile, due to a large amount of work. I work for a Japanese company; could it be that, in order to save the Empire, Imperial Headquarters ordered the Allied commander to be assigned an urgent project to distract from the war?

If so, it worked!

Sampit Falls: Sampit falls to a 12-1 attack. I needed to send in a few tanks, but that tipped the balance; the garrison, a single SNLF unit, fled into the jungle.

A convoy will be unloading base troops and engineers tommorow. The next stop is Ketapang; I don't have alot of troops prepped for Ketapang, but a move there will surely trigger a large naval battle. I expect reinforcements to be sent there ASAP.

Tarakan: The base south of Tarakan is now level 2 airbase. Reinforcements land tommorow at Tarakan; that should tip it over to the Allied side, with luck. Paras are prepped for Tawau, just up the coast, so I should have these three bases shortly.

Tawau is key, because, by my calculations, I can airsearch with PBYs all the way to the coast of Vietnam from there. If I have airsearch over South China Sea, I can vector a wolfpack of subs on any large convoys. That's the plan, anyway. I am already switching my main sub base to Balikpapan, which has plenty of fuel, and is close to the action.

Sub Wars: This has been the only significant action the last few days, other than the capture of Sampit. I sank 2 TKs, and some AKs, I seem to be averaging almost a ship a day. If I can implement that South China Sea wolfpack, I expect to be able to ratch it up more.

Map Question: Do you guys like the maps WITH airsearch showing, or without?




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RE: Java Sea - 4/24/2010 9:35:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maps with air search are good. I should do that too, I suppose. What are you searching with? Just patrol planes? Or do you set a percentage of your bombers to search as well?


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RE: Java Sea - 4/24/2010 10:43:26 PM   
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RE: Java Sea - 4/24/2010 11:31:28 PM   
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- Low experience
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RE: Java Sea - 4/24/2010 11:48:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting, the small airfields are probably the biggest culprits for the early war at the allied side then, as they are regularly flying from nearly undeveloped bases. Good patrol plane pilots are probably worth a lot too then, the early war ones have decent exp, but if you need to get them from the replacement pools ... 

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RE: Java Sea - 4/25/2010 3:02:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Airsearch: Good questions! For now, I am using only PBYs, set to 50% Search. I don't go higher than that, and OPS losses seem OK; I have at least 50 extra in the pool. Seems to work.

I don't really have enough PBYs though to cover the Pacific, and the B-24 has a bit more range, so I have been training 2 Bomber Units on NavSearch; they are almost ready, and I calculate from Tarakan they can reach the coast of Vietnam. That will mean EVERY tanker will be under my airsearch, and I'll be able to vector subs onto it. Right now, I pretty much just have to park in sealanes and hope they get run over.

Combat Report, May 18-19, 1943:

Tarakan: I landed reinforcements at Tarakan, including a Battalion of 54 Sherman Tanks. This should hopefully be enough, I attack tommorow.

AMC Worcester: I sent this ship due for withdrawl back to Perth unescorted. Unfortunately, she ran into a sub off Exmouth, and was sunk! I guess I don't have to worry about the withdrawl now.....

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RE: Java Sea - 4/25/2010 8:18:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I read Cannonrebel's and your AAR's - both appear to be near the same point. Are you having trouble with medium bombers in naval attack? From prior discussion you are still going toward Mindanao and not Java? Do you believe your land based air power and submarines can shut merchant shipping in the South China Sea?

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RE: Java Sea - 4/25/2010 8:53:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Heeward

I read Cannonrebel's and your AAR's - both appear to be near the same point. Are you having trouble with medium bombers in naval attack? From prior discussion you are still going toward Mindanao and not Java? Do you believe your land based air power and submarines can shut merchant shipping in the South China Sea?


RE: MEDIUM BOMBERS....I haven't used them much at all on Naval attack. The only one I can think of, they sank 2 tankers at Miri with 2 bomb hits, but those were stationary targets. I like the Mediums, because they can sustain a day after day bombing operation better than the 4Es, which have to rest in between.

I am going BOTH directions at the moment; I have the troops, and haven't run into opposition yet, though I have more troops prepped into the Phillipines than I do toward Palembang. Ultimately, I would like to close the South China Sea to Japanese shipping, but I don't think I can do that without landing on Luzon or Vietnam. I can force everything against the Vietnamese coast and flood that area with subs and occasional raiders, but I can't close the door completely without taking Luzon.

Combat Report, May 20-22, 1943

Fall of Tarakan: The reinforcement of Combat Engineers and Shermans did the trick; Tarakan falls after 2 attacks. Simulataneously, 503rd Paras land at Tawau. I have convoys loading up for each base with Seabees and Base Troops. The facilities at Tarakan were pretty trashed, but who cares; the point was to deny them to the Empire.

With this move, I am planning a quick follow-up to Jolo and Sandakan. I have a full division 100% prepped for Jolo (Americal Div.), and another division (2nd marines) prepped for Zamboanga. Sandakan is unoccupied, so a brigade will do. I would like to quickly get to Palawan, which will project airpower into most of the South China Sea.

Sampit: A convoy delivered base troops and stuff to Sampit, making this airbase operational. Ketapang is currently VACANT! I plan to start bombing the airstrip to keep it that way. It's already within SBD range of Sampit, so a convoy is unlikely. An airbase at Ketapang would threaten anything leaving Palembang.


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RE: Java Sea - 4/30/2010 12:05:48 AM   
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It has been several days since I have updated, mostly because work is kicking my butt. I'll pen a few lines right now, because I have a major move in the works: Invasion of Jolo.

Jolo: I am invading Jolo with 15K troops. The airbase is being bombed. We sent fast BBs through Makassar Strait, but they were nailed by Subs (a continuing problem!). I now have 6 BBs in damaged state and needing repair. OUCH!

The invasion fleet is covered by the slow R-Class BBs, plus an RN Cruiser force. All my CVs are also covering, which is basically 4 USN CVs, plus HMS Victorious.

I haven't sighted any IJN warships in awhile, so not sure where they are. They aren't at Singapore, I think Cuttlefish got wise to my constant overflights and isn't basing warships there anymore. All I see are transports.

This invasion is on a bit of shoestring, but so far I have thrown caution to the winds and really pushed forward fast, to keep the Japanese off-balance and not give Cuttlefish time to set up ground defenses.

Other Moves: By moving fast, there are alot of empty bases that are mine for the taking. Recon flights confirm that Ketapang, Tawi Tawi, and Sandakan are empty. All are also now within SBD range, so not much chance of reinforcement. The only large airfield now on Borneo is Kuching.

I also have units prepped for Zamboanga at Balikapapan; they will load and move if Jolo works out.

Subs: I haven't sunk or even seen a transport in a week! This happened 3 months ago and I changed all my patrol routes, and got another spike. I think Cuttlefish is wise to my sub routines. I need more airsearch over the South China Sea to try and spot his convoys; somehow they are getting through.

Looking Ahead: USS Essex is steaming toward the DEI. Hornet and Enterprise will finish repairs in 45 days, at which point I'll be in the midst of the mid-1943 Allied CV explosion: 3 Fleet CVs, and 3 CVLs. That's 9 CV hulls total that will be in the DEI in 3 months or so. WOW!




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Jolo Turkey Shoot - 4/30/2010 3:16:00 AM   
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Jolo Turkey Shoot: Wow. I found Kido Butai; they appreared right off Palawan, and launched strikes at both my ships off Jolo, and also my CV TF off Tawi Tawi. LBA also attacked from Mindanao. I had a fair amount of CAP up over the ships; all my CVEs were set to 40% LRCAP over Jolo, as well as about 50 fighters at Tawau. The result was a Turkey Shoot for the Allies.

The Japanese lost nearly 250 planes, all IJN. I lost about 50 CV fighters. No hits were scored.

PBYs spotted at least 2 surface TFs though with KB, and within easy attack range of Jolo. All my infantry is ashore, so the APAs are all picking up anchor and fleeing; a handful of LSTs will stay and unload supplies, but most transports are gone. The RN will hang out, a night action wouldn't be a bad thing. CVs will stay in position to nail any damaged ships in the day phase.

Ketapang: With this action, I figure it will be at least a week before KB can replenish those lost planes. I am loading a quick invasion up for Ketapang; 2 Bdes are prepped, it's go time while the IJN is on the other side of Borneo.

This was a good turn for the Allies

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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 4/30/2010 4:31:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hmm, I thought turkey shoots were almost impossible now. Did they get through and just didn't hit, or did they not get through?

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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 4/30/2010 1:47:01 PM   
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CVs will stay in position to nail any damaged ships in the day phase.

KB has got to be low on strike aircraft. If they are still around why not aggressively engage with you carriers? These carriers were built to go 32 knots for a reason.

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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 4/30/2010 2:22:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aprezto

Hmm, I thought turkey shoots were almost impossible now. Did they get through and just didn't hit, or did they not get through?

Depends on the circumstances. I had a carrier battle in my PBEM when strikes from both sides were eliminated down to the last attack plane. But in that case poor coordination played a role.

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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 4/30/2010 9:14:15 PM   
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COMMENTS: I should have sent the CV's forward, but I didn't have a surface combat TF to cover them. If they stumbled into an IJN surface force, and there were plenty, then it would have been ugly. That's the only reason, because I didn't fear an air threat.

On the Turkey Shoot? Not sure why our shooting was so good. We had alot of Hellcats, good pilots, everyone rested, maybe those were factors.

Night Battle of Jolo: This round went to the Empire. A large BB force engaged my 3 RN BBs, in a flat-out square off. First though they raked a cruiser TF, sinking Astoria and Exeter, along with a USN DD. They next bumped into the BBs, sinking Resolution outright, and damaging Royal Sovereign to the point that I'll probably just withdraw it (she was due in a few months anyway). Only 1 R-Class BB emerged unscathed. Oh yeah, they did also sink 6 LSTs unloading, but thankfully I had withdrawn the precious APAs. I can affort LST losses.

During the day phase, we did inflict some pain back, sinking 3 damaged ships; 2 modern DDs, plus CA Maya.

Overall, 1 lost 2 CA, 1 DD, and a BB, in exchange for 1 CA and 2 DD. I lost, but the BB is no big deal (she is due for withdrawl anyway), and those IJN CAs are valuable; I want to take down all I can.

Next Steps: The good news is that Jolo should fall shortly; first attack was 2-1 and dropped the forts. The landing on Tawi Tawi was successful and noone is home, so that falls tommorow. I have support TFs that will start unloading at both bases in a couple days.

I am moving back the CVs, to cover a landing on Ketapang. Cuttlefish needs to re-load KB, and I think I can get to Ketapang before that happens. If that base falls, I will be within Beaufort range of Palembang, if I can get an AIR HQ there.

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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 4/30/2010 9:42:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Q-ball,

WRT the damaged BB, I (vaguely) recall a rule about overall damage having to be less than 50% (and no fires) before a ship can be withdrawn. Will this be an issue? Will you be able to withdraw her?

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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 4/30/2010 10:03:18 PM   
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Q-ball,

WRT the damaged BB, I (vaguely) recall a rule about overall damage having to be less than 50% (and no fires) before a ship can be withdrawn. Will this be an issue? Will you be able to withdraw her?


Damage is about 25%; she'll be fine. I might repair her, we'll see what the repair estimate is, but I suspect it won't be worth it. I already withdrew HMS Revenge in a damaged state.

London isn't happy with me, but what can you do....sell them to the Russians, they're desperate.

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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 4/30/2010 10:21:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

London isn't happy with me, but what can you do....sell them to the Russians, they're desperate.

Sell London to the Russians?!? I like your thinking, Q-ball.

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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 5/2/2010 3:42:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Clarification: I do not advocate, in any way, the selling, leasing, renting, transfer, or assignment of any kind of the City of London or any parts thereof to the Soviet Union. We'll sell a couple broken BBs for gold, though!

Combat Report, June 2-6, 1943

Ketapang: I had mentioned the move on Ketapang. I sent 2 Bdes on APAs, covered by cruisers, and moved CVs forward to both cover, and see what I could nail around Palembang. More on that in a moment, but the landing at Ketapang was unoppossed; it will fall tommorow.

Ketapang will not be easy to supply and get stuff to, but really threatens Palembang.

Air Raids on Palembang: Our CVs launched multiple strikes on multiple TFs; overall, we sank 20 ships, all of them escorts or small Tankers. We did get a couple Ootoris, which are high-value escorts, plus Std-C Tankers, over 10 small tankers, and a couple AKs. We also sank 3 PBs, 2 DMSs, 3 other Es, basically a collection of escorts.

It was interesting that I found no large capacity tankers; is Cuttlefish shuttling fuel to Singapore, and then lifting it from there? Not sure.

Jolo: I finished unloading base troops at Jolo, and have a TF there unloading supplies. From the direction of Manila, there are 2 IJN Surface TFs apparently bearing down on Jolo. Here is the plan:

1. All transports pick up and leave
2. Jolo is stacked with Dive Bombers
3. PTs are stationed at Jolo

I am hoping that the PTs use up enough OPS points on those ships that they linger within 7 hexes of Jolo, and get nailed with 1000lb bombs.




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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 5/4/2010 10:42:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Combat Report, June 7-12, 1943: I havent' updated this AAR in awhile, mostly because my other game has been quite interesting. In this one, mostly I'm moving convoys; but heavy lifting is getting things done!

Ketapang: I am now unloading 4 engineer units at Ketapang, plus supplies. Once I am done, I will leave them alone to build a large base. This move is very key, I would also like to grab Pontianak (empty), and Billiton (also empty). I have units prepping for both spots. We are now getting very close to Singapore, which is uncomfortable for both of us: Contact is sure to happen.

I managed this move while KB was "reloading", but I am surprised I haven't seen surface ships. I have so many under repair right now from torps hits that I am short; something like 8 BBs, though I am starting to get a few back. Ketapang is within 8 hexes, i.e. Torp-carrying Beaufort Range (and I have about 60 of them) of Palembang and the approaches to Palembang. It's within 10 hexes of Singapore, easy reach for 4Es to close the airstrip and harbor.

Sandakan: I am also building at Sandakan. I want to open the Palawan Passage shortly around Kudat/Jessleton, because then I can "Release the Hounds", i.e. allow my Carriers to roam free in the South China Sea. A large USN CV group there would effectively close all Oil Shipments, and probably catch some convoys.

Troops are almost ready for Kudat, and I have a Marine Div 100% prepped for Zamboanga, ready to land in a couple days.

Battle of the Shipyards: INDIANA has completed repairs. COLORADO is 2 months away; another 6 BBs are headed to port. I have had a real problem with this. I do have alot of cruisers still, which helps. But I am avoiding surface combat with the IJN.

Anyone know exactly what those ARDs do? I have one headed to the DEI.



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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 5/4/2010 11:08:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		They can repair all flood damage (major and minor), for ships up to a certain size, depending on the size of the ARD.

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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 5/5/2010 10:37:48 AM   
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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 5/5/2010 1:14:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have three ARD at Darwin.  I haven't gotten a handle on them yet, but they don't seem to handle bigger ships - I haven't been able to get CA Astoria (76 FLT damage) repaired using them.  So my early suspicion is that they can't handle bigger ships.

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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 5/5/2010 1:46:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I have three ARD at Darwin.  I haven't gotten a handle on them yet, but they don't seem to handle bigger ships - I haven't been able to get CA Astoria (76 FLT damage) repaired using them.  So my early suspicion is that they can't handle bigger ships.

Any benefit to using them at a base with a repair yard? IIRC, there is an additive function by which the ARDs distribute their abilities to ships disbanded in a repair yard, regardless of how small.

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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 5/5/2010 2:34:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's a thought.  I have another ARD that's on the way to Oz from West Coast.  I'll send it to Brisbane or Sydney to see if it helps.

But those ARD ships move slow - 5 knots!

P.S.  Q-Ball, I hope this exchange of ARD info isn't hijacking your thread.  I figured you might benefit from the information.

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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 5/5/2010 3:44:29 PM   
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I have three ARD at Darwin.  I haven't gotten a handle on them yet, but they don't seem to handle bigger ships - I haven't been able to get CA Astoria (76 FLT damage) repaired using them.  So my early suspicion is that they can't handle bigger ships.


They should be able to, they have a capacity of 55, meaning they should be able to handle ships up to 55000 Tonnage. I do think you need to have an AR in the same port for them to work, but don't quote me on that.

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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 5/5/2010 3:51:13 PM   
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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 5/6/2010 8:34:48 PM   
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Still quiet all around; maybe KB is still loading planes, no idea, but we are just about done at Ketapang. Even if he comes out and destroys my CVs, I'll still be the catbird seat there. Singapore is going to become untenable if I can get one or two more bases up there.

Zamboanga: I landed the 2nd Marines on Zamboanga. Noone home, so we should have an airbase running shortly. With Zamboanga fallen, I have a small unit headed to Kudat/Jesselton. That corner of Borneo appears unoccupied, so I will occupy it...which should clear one part of the Palawan passage.

I am also starting to prep units for the Phillipine Archipelago. There are far too many bases there to defend on the ground, so establishing a presence shouldn't be too tough. We are starting to buzz around and see what's available.

Operation Freak Out: I have moved a single Liberator Recon plane to Changsha, where tommorow it will buzz Hiroshima. That should freak out the Fish! From Changsha it actually has the range to get to Osaka (Tokyo is just out of reach unfortunately). I love those planes!




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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 5/7/2010 1:38:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Q-ball; if you have enough planes to hurt KB (should it arrive); I'd land at Billiton in a moment.

As I've said before, phenominal AAR!!!  I wish you could both win this one!


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RE: Jolo Turkey Shoot - 5/8/2010 10:11:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

Operation Freak Out: I have moved a single Liberator Recon plane to Changsha, where tommorow it will buzz Hiroshima. That should freak out the Fish! From Changsha it actually has the range to get to Osaka (Tokyo is just out of reach unfortunately). I love those planes!




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