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WW2 air war - where to get started? - 10/1/2009 2:37:47 AM   
jackx

 

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Status: offline 		Reading these forums since the release of this game has led me to realize that my understanding of WW2 air combat mechanics is nonexistant.

I'm still undecided on whether or not I'll buy the game (a decision based mostly on how much time I could afford to free up for it), but by now it's clear to me that while I have a decent idea of the "greater picture", I don't actually have any understanding of the details of what brings, or doesn't bring about, certain results. So, I'm hoping some of you guys can point me in the direction of some good introductionary reading (English, German or French) that explains the combat mechanics, so to speak, of WW2 air warfare. Altitude, plane types, engine performance, doctrines etc...

I recently watched a WW2 documentary on the German attack on Poland in '39 with my younger brother, and when he asked me why they bombed Wieluń, and not a different location, I replied with that it was probably due to operational reasons, only to feel very bad for not actually being able to explain said operational/tactical reasons, had he asked. I went on to peruse a WW2 (and beyond) aircraft compendium that had been given to me at some point, but while it had a lot of data, it didn't do anything to explain its relevance.

So, where do I star to combat this knowledge gap - information available through public or universitary librarires would be greatly appreciated, but I'm willing to spend some money, too.

Edit: Cleaned up from last night.

< Message edited by jackx -- 10/1/2009 12:35:55 PM >

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RE: WW2 air war - where to get started? - 10/1/2009 5:47:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Give this thread a try.
It got started just before release, there is some very good sources.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2229436#

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RE: WW2 air war - where to get started? - 10/1/2009 4:36:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Das hier dürfte sehr ausführlich sein. Ich habe den 6. Band. (These books are very good, only in German I think)

http://www.randomhouse.de/book/edition.jsp?edi=226591&sdi=true&frm=false&fbm=false

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RE: WW2 air war - where to get started? - 10/1/2009 5:31:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Das sieht gut aus, danke. :)

Edit: And what's even better, this, and "Luftkriegsführung im Zweiten Weltkrieg", edited by Boog, are both available at my university library... time to go pick 'em up.



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RE: WW2 air war - where to get started? - 10/1/2009 7:29:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TechSgt

Give this thread a try.
It got started just before release, there is some very good sources.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2229436#

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RE: WW2 air war - where to get started? - 10/1/2009 7:54:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jackx

Das sieht gut aus, danke. :)

Edit: And what's even better, this, and "Luftkriegsführung im Zweiten Weltkrieg", edited by Boog, are both available at my university library... time to go pick 'em up.




Dr. Horst Boog hat viele gute Artikel und Aufsätze geschrieben, ist aber streckenweise recht trocken.

In der Schriftenreihe "Das Deutsche Reich und der Zweite Weltkrieg" herausgegeben vom Militärgeschichtlichen Forschungsamt Freiburg i.Br. findest du etliche gute Artikel (in Summe mehrere tausend Seiten)
Vor einigen Jahren hat Fischer einen guten Teil dieser Schriftreihe in der Buchreihe "Die Zeit des Nationalsozialismus" als Taschenbücher herausgegeben.

Wenn du dein Interesse etwas einengst kann ich dir sicherlich eine Reihe an Büchern empfehlen :D

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RE: WW2 air war - where to get started? - 10/1/2009 10:05:37 PM   
jackx

 

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Status: offline 		Trocken ist nicht so schlimm... ich halte beim Lesen einiges aus. Und als Bettlektüre ist es ja auch nicht gedacht...

Mir geht es momentan vor allem um ein Verständnis für das Zusammenspiel der verschiedenen Faktoren bei Luftkämpfen, also letztlich abstrakte Regeln/Gesetzmäßigkeiten, die eine einigermaßen zuverlässige Prognose über das Ergebnis von Kampfhandlungen zulassen.  Eine Art Luftkampfhandbuch sozusagen...
Ich gehe davon aus, dass sich das in gewissen Maß beim Lesen von primär mit der Wiedergabe und Interpretation der Ereignisse befassten Büchern einstellt, daher nehme ich mir jetzt erstmal die zwei Bücher von Boog vor...

(I hope all this German talk is ok on these boards - if it's not, or if someone's feeling left out, I'll gladly provide a translation and/or switch back to English)


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RE: WW2 air war - where to get started? - 10/1/2009 10:59:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ja, ist OK wit me. If I can't figure out your post, the referenced sources won't be any easier.

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RE: WW2 air war - where to get started? - 10/1/2009 11:10:12 PM   
jackx

 

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Status: offline 		There is that, I suppose...

The compilation "The conduct of the air war in the Second World War. An international comparison", edited by Boog appears to be available in English as well, though...


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