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Governor action - 11/5/2009 11:58:49 PM   
GrouchyXe

 

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I have -15 horses / turn because of governor action ???

What can I do ?
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RE: Governor action - 11/6/2009 1:36:35 AM   
Randomizer


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Status: offline 		Managing Governor's can be a game in itself, it's easy to really hate some of them at times.  What you're seeing means he is against horse production and the only ways to improve a Governor's attitude so that he will support the war effort or at least be indifferent (do nothing) are:

1.  If he requests or demands infrastructure, buildings or troops, give them to him;
2.  Find a general from his state and promote him; or
3.  Hope the S.O.B. gets defeated in the November elections (always providing that his term is up).

Getting a Governor with a negative attitude sweet on the war effort is near impossible so I tend to hope the electorate kicks him out without electing somebody worse.

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RE: Governor action - 11/6/2009 6:45:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		or 4. Disable Governors in the game. While they add another element of historical accuracy and challenge, I got so tired of them asking to have friends appointed to commands that would reduce my container rankings, that I finally gave up and disabled them.

I may turn them back on sometime, but for now they are one less headache to have to deal with while learning how to play the game. YMMV, of course.


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RE: Governor action - 11/6/2009 11:46:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Slick Wilhelm wrote:
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or 4. Disable Governors in the game.


You are correct of course and since I have found the Governor aspect of FoF so different and mostly unique for a wargame, the thought of disabling it just never occured.

Regardless of how frustrating it can be the Governor's really add some period flavour of the situation and the personalities. To be sure it's not a perfect system but it does give one an appreciation of the reasons why both Lincoln and Davis needed to widen the powers of their respective federal goverment to prosecute their war efforts despite personal and political convictions to the contrary.

That's my $0.02 (less 15% because Burton of Delaware is acting like an idiot again)...

Cheers

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RE: Governor action - 11/6/2009 11:49:33 PM   
terje439


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Status: offline 		I think that the governors can be a pain at times
(espesially when demanding buildings that serves no real purpose in their state, like barracks in Florida),
but I leave them on as they make the game even more challenging.
In a few pbem games as the Union I lost the game cause I was too occupied with satisfying the governors...next game I lost cause I ignored them

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RE: Governor action - 11/7/2009 10:14:13 AM   
GrouchyXe

 

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Status: offline 		Yes disabling governors is for me a no way because it is really so great.

I have not yet made any troops or ressource prosecution requisistions on any state but I have always rejected offers for staff and I have furthermore decreased generals according to my plans and regardless of governors actions. For instance moving Butler from 4 star to 1 star was a nice one :)

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RE: Governor action - 11/7/2009 12:58:50 PM   
terje439


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ORIGINAL: GrouchyXe

Yes disabling governors is for me a no way because it is really so great.

I have not yet made any troops or ressource prosecution requisistions on any state but I have always rejected offers for staff and I have furthermore decreased generals according to my plans and regardless of governors actions. For instance moving Butler from 4 star to 1 star was a nice one :)



Completely agree with you here, YOU not the Govs should decide where the troops are needed, and I never accept governor demands to appoint staff members. And the demotion of generals is a must!

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RE: Governor action - 11/8/2009 1:32:16 AM   
Gil R.


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Status: offline 		As I recall -- and I'm in a foreign country, far from the manual -- governors' attitudes are also impacted by how the war is going. So if you have some big victories I think that might raise their attitude.

I'm glad people like the governors. Putting them in the game was Eric's (=programmer/lead developer) idea, and he and I both thought it would take me a few days to do the research and create the data files, but then I started to get into it... and took several weeks. (The bios on the Overview screen reflect this.) I ended up reading whatever I could that was on the Web in order to get an idea of their political leanings, and also -- much more difficult -- figured out when they had to run for reelection and who their opponent was (and, if I couldn't learn who opposed them, which prominent politicians might have run). I was shocked to find that back then some states had governors run every year, or every other year. So, I think it can be safely said that FOF is the first wargame with a historically accurate schedule of gubernatorial elections!

< Message edited by Gil R. -- 11/8/2009 3:08:56 PM >

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RE: Governor action - 11/8/2009 2:16:31 PM   
GrouchyXe

 

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Status: offline 		Huge, nice and appreciated work that give a big added value to the game.

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RE: Governor action - 11/8/2009 6:42:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's a BIG thing in the game, you MUST keep them happy and that's it. Wonderful idea, unique in its kind. 


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RE: Governor action - 11/9/2009 8:11:51 PM   
SlickWilhelm


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Status: offline 		I love how some of the Generals will quit if you demote them. VERY historical and a nice touch! 

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