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RE: 30-31st March 1942 - 6/8/2010 2:36:28 AM   
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How hurt is POW? The only real safe place for her is Cape Town. Not to mention the shipyard there. Perth is gonna get raided sooner or later and then again. It is too easy for Japan as no Allied player has the aircraft to cover it early in the game. I really just kept a skeleton force at Perth early in my game. Everything else, AKLs, CMs, AOs, AMs, AKs-whathever, went to Cape Town. If he is already banging on the door at OZ you won't need much shipping anyways as you can rail troops anywhere. I doubt he got any intel. A port raid on Perth is almost a no brainer for Japan. Most Allied players just get careless and park too much stuff there. Hobart is a great place to hide ships.



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1st April 1942 - 6/8/2010 7:13:53 AM   
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First a question - I've recently received 70th UK Division at Karachi and 3 x Brit Bde's at Aden (16, 18th and another). Now the 70th UK Division is upto strength apart from it has no soldiers. The Bde's seems a little anaemic on support weapons. I think Andy Mac mentioned something on this before? Are these units meant to be tied up (they're not showing as being the same organisation) and used together? I may send them to Aus.......

Hi crsutton - Fair points and you're probably right POW is now upto 8/53(48 MJR FLT)/0. She was originally there to remove all of her Minor FLT and a majority of her SYS. She entered with almost 50 SYS from memory and was due to leave in 2 weeks time for Cape Town.

Today Shokaku stayed on the scene (god I wish I had more ship killing aircraft in Australia (from looking there's only 6 x navy DB Squadrons in PH/USA - all of which are massively understrength as the DB's are going to my CV's) as it's just looking like Shokaku out there) and attacked Perth's port again. 5 bombs fell on POW (4 x 250KG and 1 x 800KG against the belt - phew). A couple of the attackers were downed by AA.

More Japanese ships began to unload at Darwin and were also met by heavy CD fire. AK Asakaze Maru and PB Tonon Maru were both left heavily damaged.

The good news is that I've extricated all troops from Darwin except the CD guns. They're a few hexes away from Katherine now.

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CBI -

Another good day over Katha as 3 x Oscar's were downed for 1 Hurri.

I tell you now if Faber commits full hog to Australia he'll be finding a mass of troops storming through Burma in due course

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Submarine warfare -

Good to see some Radar's getting installed on my subs

SS KXV evaded escorts near Groot Natoena and then managed to get a shot at AK Nitiryu Maru.....seconds later 2 torpedoes slammed home breaking the ship in 2.

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2nd April 1942 - 6/8/2010 11:47:27 AM   
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Australia -

Shokaku attacked Perth again today. An 800KG bomb penetrated POW deck......The Vals attacked the Heavy Industry and damaged half of it.

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CBI -

For the first time a mass of 38 x Zeroes swept over Akyab....I have no planes there but it was clearly a precursor since scouts have reported a Jaoanese unit advancing overland. I have 5 units at Akyab 1 of which is an Indian Bde.

My northern attack in China failed.....God I HATE China. It's proving impossible for me to do anything nor cause the Japanese any trouble there. I'm very tempted to just give up there and try to mass evacuate everything through to India.......

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SRA -

Bataan finally fell today after 2 days heavy fighting costing the Japanese 3000 casualties. Over 40000 Allied soldiers were marched into captivity.

Ambon fell to IJA 4th Bde netting a further 4000 Allied prisoners.

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Submarine warfare -

SS Swordfish reportedly sunk PB Konei Maru east of Cam Ranh Bay.

SS Sailfish was damn determined today as she tracked and attacked PB Eifuku Maru FOUR times loosing 16 dud and missed torpedoes at her right into Koepang harbour....damn she must be frustrated

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RE: 2nd April 1942 - 6/8/2010 4:27:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just be careful. There are only two hexes that permit land units to cross for both Akyab and Cox's Bazaar. Units there can easily be flanked and trapped. Akyab looks like it has three hexsides but the lowest one is actually not crossable terrain. Don't get trapped and keep this in mind because later in 1942 you yourself are in good position to trap a careless Imperial player there.

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3rd April 1942 - 6/8/2010 6:00:25 PM   
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Hi crsutton - interesting. Interesting. Didn't know that. Thanks! I have an air raid targetting the Japanese unit tomorrow. Depending on what it is I may well retreat to Chittagong.

In case anyone missed my question above - I've recently received 70th UK Division at Karachi and 3 x Brit Bde's at Aden (16, 18th and another). Now the 70th UK Division is upto strength apart from it has no soldiers. The Bde's seems a little anaemic on support weapons. I think Andy Mac mentioned something on this before? Are these units meant to be tied up (they're not showing as being the same organisation) and used together?

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Australia -

Shokaku is still on scene and attacked Perth again today....she didn't hit POW though......she did sink 2 x Subs though and an AM and damaged the repair yards and HI. 7 x Kittyhawk were massacered in the air today. I do have fighters in Aus that could be there within 3-5 days but there's no point in sending them since it would be babies against men at the moment based on experience.

I have 'massed' 20 x Hudson and 12 x Wirraway though who will aim to attack Shokaku tomorrow. You never know....2 hits here would mean a long journey home and subs to negotiate

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All 'quiet' else where.....Brit CV's are almost back to Bombay for R&R.

US CV's still in San Diego upgrading and SLOWLY receiving SBD's/TBD's.

Most US CA/CL/DD vessels are receiving AA and Radar upgrades.

Most AP/TK's are sailing like billio to and from the US to deliver/pickup troops and fuel.....

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RE: 3rd April 1942 - 6/8/2010 9:45:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Speedy

In case anyone missed my question above - I've recently received 70th UK Division at Karachi and 3 x Brit Bde's at Aden (16, 18th and another). Now the 70th UK Division is upto strength apart from it has no soldiers. The Bde's seems a little anaemic on support weapons. I think Andy Mac mentioned something on this before? Are these units meant to be tied up (they're not showing as being the same organisation) and used together?



I'm not sure about any comments Andy made regarding those brigades being light on support weapons, but yes, he said they go together. The parent gets withdrawn after a bit, but (I think) the brigades stay, so you are not allowed to join them together. Or something like that. I think. Sort of. Yeah. I guess in real life you can do whatever you want with an organization, but making game code work with that is a bit of a problem.

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RE: 3rd April 1942 - 6/8/2010 10:13:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Brigades and Division go together, but some of the Brigades will be withdrawn, as they were used to form the Chindit's. Ironically you get the Chindit's before the brigades are withdrawn. ;)

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RE: 3rd April 1942 - 6/9/2010 5:06:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, the division is quite useless as it will never take troops. You can opt to disband it early and get a shot of equipment for your pools or just wait until they withdraw for the same effect. I think Andy said that this divsion provided the core troops for the Chindit Brigades and that is why it has no infantry.

Otherwise the divsion has no real use and does not give any benfit to the three independant British Brigades, which by the way all are very high experience and make a valuable fire brigade to back up the less experience Indian units.

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4th April 1942 - 6/9/2010 7:32:44 AM   
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Thanks guys This helps a lot. Based upon this fact I've decided upon the following - 70th UK Division will be disbanded to provide much needed equipment for the pools....actually how is it best to do this? As in is there a particular city/mode the division has to be in? Also since it's in a Hard Coded (R) command does that prevent me from Disbanding it?

The 14, 16, 23rd UK Bde + 45th Recce Rgt will be sent from Aden to SW Australia to buttress the defence there.

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Australia -

Shokaku has moved off! Not sure where but she's gone.......I have a plan for POW which I'll outline tomorrow.

My Darwin refugees are approaching Katherine and are 35 miles away......

IJA 5th Division took Darwin today and captured the CD units and 3500 men.

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CBI -

Blenheim's from Calcutta bombed 112th IJA Rgt SE of Akyab. With a Rgt approaching and the fact they could cut off my depleted Bde in Akyab I'm thinking of pulling back to Chittagong. In due course when I have strong and well equipped forces in India I could move back down the trail.

My sweep over Katha netted an Oscar but a raid on Myitkyina got split from it's escort and 4 x Blenheim were shot down by Oscars.

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Convoy -


200,000 Tonnes of Fuel left Abadan for Australia.

On the WC a convoy for Aus is forming up comprising of:

100,000 tonnes of supply
75,000 tonnes of fuel
24th (sep) Infantry Rgt
53rd (sep) Infantry Rgt
102nd Combat Engineer Rgt
110th Combat Engineer Bn
USA BF
USN BF
Aviation BF
AA Rgt
TD Bn
2 x ART Rgt
EAB Bn
51st PG (3 x squadrons)
VMF 221

Within 3 weeks the 32nd Infantry Division will also be en route.......

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RE: 4th April 1942 - 6/9/2010 2:18:11 PM   
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This Division is due to withdraw in June 43; you can't disband units that are due to withdraw. You will, however, get all of it's devices returned to the pool when it does withdraw.

At the same time the Division withdraws, the 3 brigades will undergo a TOE change, becoming Chindit brigades; they will be renamed in October 43 as Chindits. In the TOE change, they will lose some British infantry squads and motorized support, and will gain Indian infantry squads and mountain guns. Around the same time, you will get Wingate's HQ unit 3rd (Special Force) Division. 

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5-6th April 1942 - 6/9/2010 7:18:01 PM   
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Hi ckammp - ah that helps as to why I can't disband it! In that case she'll head to Chittagong area for local backup fire. Thanks.

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SRA -

The Japanese attacked Buitenzorg on the 5th and have now reached the last fortified positions......they however paid dearly for it losing 3173 men to only 1255 Dutch! Supplies are beginning to dwindle though. Probably no more than a weeks resistance left.

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CBI -

Usual sweep over Katha netted an Oscar.

The first 3 x C47 airgroups are departing Aden for India......then the 'hump flights' begin.........

The Japanese attacked Chuhsien on the 6th but my men stood firm:

Ground combat at Chuhsien (88,56)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26801 troops, 303 guns, 111 vehicles, Assault Value = 819

Defending force 29747 troops, 157 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 889

Japanese adjusted assault: 753

Allied adjusted defense: 1285

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1718 casualties reported
Squads: 66 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
607 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 43 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 62 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled


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Submarine warfare -

A momentus day of the war on the 6th April by SS KXV as she left the large fuel laden TK Kyokuyo Maru heavily burning..........

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Convoy update -

41st Division has been approved for transfer to SwPac...she's now embarking on the convoy mentioned a few days back.




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RE: 5-6th April 1942 - 6/9/2010 8:08:06 PM   
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7th April 1942 - 6/10/2010 8:24:36 AM   
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Hi Alfred - understood but with the Japanese marching around Akyab (currently reported to be moving east of Akyab) I want to have forces in place behind the lines to prevent capture by Para's. I do have an Ind. Bde there though so I may just leave them in Calcutta in safety

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CBI -

As reported the Japanese Rgt is reportdly maching NE which will take it E of Akyab and only 45 miles from being able to cut them off. As such I'm evac'ing Akyab for Cox's Bazaar.

In China the powerful 100th Chinese Corps will attempt to sweep aside a Japanese Mongol division blocking the path between Chuhsien and Wenchow.......

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Australia -

Ok....here's a little surprise opp I ran with that is now safe to be disclosed.....BB POW slipped from underneath the clutches of Shokaku. I, rightly, assumed Faber was solely focussed on City and Port Attacks - assuming that POW was too heavily damaged to move. That was wrong. Over the course of 3 days I readied the ship and crew to move. They left at night steaming at flank speed (10 knots) to the south and then east from Perth undetected. They are now 2 days away from Adelaide I've not decided whether to move her to WC or to Cape Town at the mo. She's not in great shape but she's taken a lot of punishment in this war already - 20/49/1.

The Aussie fragments hold at Katherine as men conduct a fighting withdrawal to the south:

Ground combat at Katherine (76,128)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4688 troops, 36 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 163

Defending force 10677 troops, 157 guns, 44 vehicles, Assault Value = 169

Japanese adjusted assault: 129

Allied adjusted defense: 143

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
262 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
227 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)


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Submarine warfare -

An unusual day with no sightings or attacks today.

SigInt has identified a Japanese SS 90 miles east of Dutch Harbour. 4 x S Class boats have been ordered to intercept.

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8-9th April 1942 - 6/10/2010 3:22:10 PM   
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I sense a lull before the next storm. The next storm will most likely be the last major Japanese offensive of the war and will likely invovle the Divisions from Singapore, Bataan and the 3 of them still tied up at Buitenzorg. In fact the one's at Bataan may still be in R&R since there was very heavy fighting around there for months. All being well Faber won't be able to launch this massive attack until the end of May but who know's.......Faber has already taken all of northern Australia with 2 x Divisions equivalent and a Bde.

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CBI -

A couple of P40's have failed to return on missions over Katha.

The attack by 100th Chinese Corps was a complete success and they're following the 'Japanese' into Pucheng to the west:


Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10401 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 453

Defending force 636 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 27

Allied adjusted assault: 469

Japanese adjusted defense: 19

Allied assault odds: 24 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
204 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
100th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
5th Mongol Cavalry Division

The Japanese have, for some reason, pulled back from Pingsiang.

On the 9th in the far north of China an attack failed to take ground but did cause more casualties on the Japanese than we took:

Ground combat at 93,34

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7726 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 284

Defending force 3432 troops, 44 guns, 100 vehicles, Assault Value = 108

Allied adjusted assault: 186

Japanese adjusted defense: 307

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
315 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
255 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 52 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Assaulting units:
11th Chinese Corps
303rd Brigade
9th Separate Brigade

Defending units:
1st Cavalry Brigade
4th Cavalry Brigade
7th Mongol Cavalry Division

I've attached a screenshot of the current situation in southern and central China.

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10-11th April 1942 - 6/11/2010 7:24:32 AM   
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Buitenzorg holds on delaying the Japanese another few days.....they're now holed up in the mountains and caves for a final stand. They still managed to make the Japanese pay costing them 1670 men to 599 Dutch.

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Australia -

I'm happy to announce all Australia nforces from northern Australia have escaped Japanese encirclement at Katherine and are heading south. This is fantastic news since there's over 300 Aviation Support amongst them which will be vital for upcoming air operations. Behind them the IJA 4th Bde is about ot capture Katherine.

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CBI -

Sweeps over northern Burma have netted 4 x Oscar for 1 x P40. FO Warburton off 17th RAF Squadron claimed 3 yesterday!

204,000 Tonnes of fuel are leaving Abadan for Australia - Aus is almost totally dry of fuel!

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Other stuff -

41st USA Division convoy leaves San Fran along with 40,000 other troops, 5 x Squadrons, 187,000 tonnes of supply and 90,000 tonnes of fuel - Destination Australia and SoPac.

Within 2 weeks a whole bunch of my Subs will have the first Radar sets installed.....patrols will hopefully be even more fruitful.

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Submarine warfare -

On the 10th SS Skipjack evaded escorts and heavily damaged AK Sensan Maru with a torpedo off Taberfane. She saw the ship beach herself. SigInt helped here since it told me the 40th Bde was heading there. I was happy to provide a welcoming party

On the 11th SS Swordfish spotted a convoy SE of Quinhon, Vietnam. She reportedly sank AK Hokko Maru.

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RE: 10-11th April 1942 - 6/11/2010 10:34:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good news about the POW. Shame on Fabertong for letting her get away.  Get her sys down and she should be able to move. She has an high exp crew and in my game the actually repaired a lot of damage a sea.

No way to hold N OZ vs a detemined opponent so don't fret. Just hope that he tries to move south with his forces at hand. Daily Waters is a good place to make a stand while building up armor. It won't be till much later in the year but get yourself a nice armored fist and let him have it. Upgrade your Aussie motorized units first. IMHO, these two motorized units are the best Allied units in 1942. A great mix of infantry and tanks.

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12-15th April 1942 - 6/15/2010 8:05:24 AM   
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Hi crsutton - yeah i'm certainly hoping Faber does push on further into Australia......you're thinking of the 1st and 3rd Motor Bde's? If so the 3rd is currently taking replacements and is at Cloncurry. The 1st is resting and receiving replacements in a rear area.

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A 4-day update as things begin to settle before the next onslaught.......

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CBI -

The Japanese set a trap over Katha on the 13th as my Blenheim's lumbered forward with P40/Hurri escorts they encountered 21 x Zero on CAP. These veterans took a heavy toll on my forces shooting down 18 x planes for the reported loss of 2 x Zero.

2 further Hurri Squadrons have been bought forward to bolster fighter strength. A sweep has been planned over Katha for tomorrow.

Some small actions and successes/failures in China.

On the 14th April 4 x Chinese Corps swept east over the river SW of Nanchang routing the Japanese Rgt defending the position:

Ground combat at 83,55

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 17998 troops, 150 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 700

Defending force 3264 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 107

Allied adjusted assault: 432

Japanese adjusted defense: 25

Allied assault odds: 17 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1751 casualties reported
Squads: 29 destroyed, 76 disabled
Non Combat: 38 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 1


Allied ground losses:
370 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
44th Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
28th New Chinese Division
39th New Chinese Division

Defending units:
102nd Infantry Regiment

Tomorrow a Chinese attack will go in on Japanese positions east of Kweisui and on 2 x Bde's NE of Loyang.

The Japanese have been successful in surrounding 2 x Chinese Corps outside Tatung.....my forces have no way out and will die in due course.

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SoPac -

A Japanese CV force was spotted by PBY patrol east of Luganville on 13th April. All bombers and fighters, on Fuji, were alerted but they turned away on the 14th. Instead a patrol located a Japanese invasion TF off Efate. 20 x Miitchell had the range to attack but scored no reported hits on 2 x AMC. Japanese troops then occupied Efate.

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Submarine wafare -

No successful attacks to report.

This is a trend I expect to see for the next 2 months due to:

1.) Many subs returning to port to install Radar sets.

2.) home bases are now much further away due to all safe havens in and near to SRA being captured.

After a couple of months though I expect things to pick up more with subs upgraded and more subs on patrol.

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16-18th April 1942 - 6/16/2010 5:24:16 PM   
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CBI -

An Allied fighter sweep over Katha on 16th April encountered 9 x Oscar throughotu the area. 4 were reportedly shot down for the loss of 1 x Hurri and another lost on the way home. I'll take that.

The 17th was a rest day for my Burma Boys but on the 18th Radar detected a Japanese sweep coming in at 15K feet near Imphal. 32 x Allied P40 an Hurricane took to the sky. A vicious air battle took place from the treetops to the cloudtops...........15 enemy Zeroes were claimed for the loss of 2 x P40 and 7 x Hurri. Once more I'll take that.

China has been interesting.....as usual....I'll post separate posts on it since I'd like all your thoughts but to summarise over the past 3 days:

The Chinese attacks near Kweisui and Loyang both failed but Pucheng was retaken by the glorious 100th Chinese Corps.

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SoPac -

I 'assume' the Japanese CV force spotted NW of Fuji several days ago moved westwards and SW of New Caledonia, since out of the sun on the 17th April Vals and Kate's came screaming, attacking 4 Allied vessels anchored off Norfolk Island which had just finished unloading a Marine Def. Bn. AP Santa Barbara was the focal point and 6 bomb hits sent her quickly to the bottom. AM Vireo and DMS Long both took a bomb hit and sank on the 18th. Only AP Tasker H. Bliss managed to flee the scene to Auckland with a bomb hit to wear and heavy fires to boot.

I need more Patrols out there but with such limited planes I will have to start using LR bombers more and more.

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Submarine warfare -

The dry spell continues with 5 unsuccessful attacks in the past 3 days including against CA Atago, near Singapore and SS I-124 by SS Grayling near Attu Island.

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China - 6/16/2010 5:46:04 PM   
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I'd like your thoughts on China if I may.

As we all know it's a clusterf***.

However, overall i'm kind of happy that I've managed to frustrate the Japanese of advancing too far but Supplies are almost always an issue and my units just keep getting chewed up. I've taken the approach to tackle the Japanese at their bases and away from cities as much as I can. The main reason for this is to keep my cities being able to produce supplies and also to be able to construct fortifications (which most have and are upto level 3 at least now).

The con of course is that I'm against the Japanese in their strongholds which I just can't take sicne they're behind forts AND have better equipment across the board. At least it does stop the buggers from producing in those cities though.

As I say overall I'm quite happy with this but I'd like to try and make some progress somewhere if I can. The question is: is it possible?

What do you think?

If so how best?

The attached screenshot shows the current dispositions across southern China. I know it doesn't show AV levels but as a rule of thumb levels of forces in Chuhsien, Hankow and Wuchow are fairly even with about 1000 AV each.

The blue arrows show recent Chinese advances, the red Japanese.

It's quite clear I don't have the strength to take Hankow or Wuchow so my focus is aroudn Nanchang which has about 600AV and 450ish further arrayed to the South. In reply I have about 1300AV moving from the west. My logic is that Faber has to keep several hundred at Nanchang otherwise I'll take. This means I can focus about 1000AV to take out the forces to the south and to try and encircle it and move further east.

Wenchow and Chuhsien is just a royal PIA. I can just about hold onto Chuhsien as it is but 2 further Japanese units are moving in from the east to take Wenchow. The 100th Chinese Corps is a good unit and has taken ground to the west (recently Pucheng) with an aim to get a land route in touch with the Chinese to the west. I'm tempted to evac Wenchow and Chuhsien to join the forces to the west. Thoughts?




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It's been fairly even after the Japanese took Tsiaotso early on. We both have even forces around Loyang and Chengchow so no progress to be made here.

I tried to take Sinyang month of so ago and made progress in overcoming some fortifications but then banged my head against a brick wall so stalemate here with 1000 AV each.

The Japanese made progress pushing to the west between Sinyang and Chenchow threatening Nanyang. This region is still of concern with approximately 650 Japanese AV vs 500 Chinese.

Further north you can see the encircled 2 x Chinese Corps at Tatung.

Further north still is total stalemate. I have a 1.5X AV advantage to the NE of Kweisui but attacks here make no ground against Japanese Cavalry units.




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Anyone have any ideas/thoughts on China? Thanks

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CBI -

All quiet over Burma for now.

Plenty of action in China. The IJA 102nd Infantry Rgt was roughly handled SW of Nanchang. For 131 Chinese casualties it sustained over 1900!

An attack by 2 x Chinese corps SE of Kukong surprisngly failed. Japanese air attacks may have been the key disruptor:

Ground combat at 80,58

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15250 troops, 81 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 648

Defending force 3571 troops, 37 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 128

Allied adjusted assault: 239

Japanese adjusted defense: 370

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
376 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (0 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
447 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Assaulting units:
63rd Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
1st Ind.Inf.Group
5th RF Gun Battalion

Japanese are closing in on Wenchow....they will probably get there before any Corps get back. This will in turn force my hand and I'll evacuate to the west to re-group and advance back from there.

I've upgraded my first Chinese Squadron to P43A Lancers! Woooo

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SRA -

Buitenzorg still holds out.

An attack by IJA 41st Infantry Rgt at Medan met heavy resistance and failed to make headway. A counter attack by the Dutch on 20th also failed but did manage to cause more casualties on the Japanese.

The Japanese took Oosthaven. SS S-38, repairing major damage in port, was scuttled to prevent capture.

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South Pacific -

Japanese CV's showed up on the 19th NW off New Zealand. They detected but didn't attack AP Tasker H. Bliss.......fires were raging on board and despite the Japanese CV's running away on the 20th Tasker succumbed to the inferno and what crew remained abandoned ship in sight of Auckland.....damn.

32nd USA Division is leaving San Fran for Australia in the next week.

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A couple more missed attacks. Grrr. A bad spell indeed for my subs!


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RE: 19-20th April 1942 - 6/17/2010 12:17:24 PM   
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Hi all,

Anyone have any ideas/thoughts on China? Thanks




yeah, get your offensive into Burma rolling as soon as possible (or never lose it ) as that´s the only way to get supplies to China. That solves the supply issue and should enable you to keep your units in bases being supplied. Without enough supplies, the only advise I can give is to not defend in bases at all. And of course don´t defend clear hexes whenever possible.

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Hmm. Surely I'll need to wait for my Indian Divisiosn to fill out with 1942 squads and to get the equipment all upto scratch? Let alone the experience levels?

Why to not defend bases at all?

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RE: 19-20th April 1942 - 6/17/2010 3:01:20 PM   
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I don't think you should underestimate the value of a stalemate in China. Don't lose patience and try to become too active - it runs the risk of burning off your reserves which might be necessary to cover what looks to me a vulnerable position in front of Sian.

As to specifics.

(1) How weak are the t trapped units at Tatung. If they are forced to surrender, they will reappear 30 days later at Chunking, so a surrender may well be in your favour both in terms of increasing your AV and relocating the units away from their current out of position location.

(2) What exactly do you have at Yenan. That Chinese base does not really have any value as it doesn't produce supply nor does it have to be captured by the Japanese if they intend to approach Sian from the north east along the secondary road. The only real value of Yenan is as an airbase, but the difficulty of getting supply to it does usually curtail air operations from there. Thus you may be able to thin out the Yenan defenders to give yourself a local reserve, perhaps to advance to Tatung to rescue the 2 corps located there., or to move into position to block an enemy drive on Sian from the rear.

(3) Currently you may be confident of holding on at Nanyang and Loyang, but I see no fieldworks between them and Sian to provide rearguard positions. If you fail to hold at those two bases, or the mountainous rail line behind Loyang, you may find the Japanese quickly moving onto Sian.

(4) Sian is clear terrain but the terrain in front of it is good defensive terrain and is the area where you should anchor the defense of the oilfield.

(5) Some advise to defend outside of bases because of how supply flows viz to units rather than to bases. But this can be too simplistic an approach as one has to factor whether the base itself generates supply (Light Industry or auto supply) and how many units are inside the base itself. Certainly if you have units located between a surplus supply base and a deficient supply base, those units will commandeer supplies sent from the surplus to the deficient base.

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21-22nd April 1942 - 6/18/2010 5:59:43 AM   
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The main action for the past 2 days has centered around good old China again.....

First the bad, 62nd Infantry Bde has reached Wenchow before my Corps and will probably take it tomorrow. This is regrettable since Wenchow is a fantastic supply base. I am hoping to re-take it in due course though.

The good, Japanese attacks at both Sinyang and Chuhsien stalled.....massively.....I will post CR for this so you can see by how much. I'm launching probe attacks tomorrow to test enemy strength.

It also looks as though an opportunity may be present for progress in front of Kukong as the Japanese only have 235 AV worth of troops vs my 613 with an extra 211 arriving in 1 days time and an extra 300 arriving within 10 days.

Sinyang:

Ground combat at Sinyang (86,48)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 25861 troops, 231 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 962

Defending force 36262 troops, 239 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 992

Japanese adjusted assault: 1364

Allied adjusted defense: 2255

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3885 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 201 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 146 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled


Allied ground losses:
675 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 80 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Chuhsien:

Ground combat at Chuhsien (88,56)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 27376 troops, 329 guns, 137 vehicles, Assault Value = 869

Defending force 31991 troops, 157 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1077

Japanese adjusted assault: 1236

Allied adjusted defense: 3241

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3265 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 156 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 145 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 32 disabled
Vehicles lost 18 (0 destroyed, 18 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
324 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled

In other news an Oscar was shot down over Katha.

A convoy arrived at Calcutta bring 116th RAF BF, Catalina Squadron, Wellington Squadron and the first 3 x C47 squadrons.

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Speedy,

I don't think you should underestimate the value of a stalemate in China. Don't lose patience and try to become too active - it runs the risk of burning off your reserves which might be necessary to cover what looks to me a vulnerable position in front of Sian.

As to specifics.

(1) How weak are the t trapped units at Tatung. If they are forced to surrender, they will reappear 30 days later at Chunking, so a surrender may well be in your favour both in terms of increasing your AV and relocating the units away from their current out of position location.

(2) What exactly do you have at Yenan. That Chinese base does not really have any value as it doesn't produce supply nor does it have to be captured by the Japanese if they intend to approach Sian from the north east along the secondary road. The only real value of Yenan is as an airbase, but the difficulty of getting supply to it does usually curtail air operations from there. Thus you may be able to thin out the Yenan defenders to give yourself a local reserve, perhaps to advance to Tatung to rescue the 2 corps located there., or to move into position to block an enemy drive on Sian from the rear.

(3) Currently you may be confident of holding on at Nanyang and Loyang, but I see no fieldworks between them and Sian to provide rearguard positions. If you fail to hold at those two bases, or the mountainous rail line behind Loyang, you may find the Japanese quickly moving onto Sian.

(4) Sian is clear terrain but the terrain in front of it is good defensive terrain and is the area where you should anchor the defense of the oilfield.

(5) Some advise to defend outside of bases because of how supply flows viz to units rather than to bases. But this can be too simplistic an approach as one has to factor whether the base itself generates supply (Light Industry or auto supply) and how many units are inside the base itself. Certainly if you have units located between a surplus supply base and a deficient supply base, those units will commandeer supplies sent from the surplus to the deficient base.

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Hi Alfred,

Thanks for your thoughts. As per my previous AAR you've provided some good stuff here

1.) Tatung - very weak now. Approx 100 AV left vs. 322 Japanese. There was a big Corps there which had 68% of it's TOE. Grrrr.

2.) Yenan is very weak. I've attached a SS showing the units there.

3.) Good point. The problem here is that I don't have enough of a reserve to place as a secondary defensive line. At present I do feel strong enough at Loyang and Chenchow. Both have 5 Forts with 1000 AV at Loyang, 1500 at Chenchow and 1300 to the SW of it. You're right htough it does look as though this is the main weak area - between here and Nanyang. Not sure what to change around here now though?

4.) Thanks. Didn't know that. Noted.

5.) Ah. Thanks. I'd heard this kind of thing before but wasn't 100% sure. Explains why units in the field (like SW of Nanchang) are fully supplied but some bases are sitting at orange level!

Thanks again for this




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Hi castor,

Hmm. Surely I'll need to wait for my Indian Divisiosn to fill out with 1942 squads and to get the equipment all upto scratch? Let alone the experience levels?

Why to not defend bases at all?

Thanks



Not wanting to say to not defend at bases at all but I guess you will soon find out (if you haven´t already) that you can´t supply your troops in bases due to the bases being out of supply but you can supply them outside of bases because as long as they are outside of bases they draw supply from "somewhere" while they only draw supplies from that base they are in when they are in a base. So the advise has to be: not defend in bases that don´t draw supplies. And if that base never gets supplies, your troops will starve there which makes it impossible to hold that base in the long run. The only way to counter this is to supply China out of Burma asap. To be honest, I don´t like the supply flowing from Burma to China the way it does but it more or less cures the borked supply how it is going in China with your troops not starving outside of bases but starving inside of the bases.

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1. The Penguin will be doing you a favour if he forces a surrender at Tatung. With only 100 AV in 2 LCUs, the resurrected units at Chungking will be of a comparable strength and their initial at start strength will not have reduced your Chinese infantry squad pool.

2. Yenan is already at level 4 fortification. The cost to build up to level 5 is quite hefty - in my experience I doubt that you will be able to get sufficient supply to the base to allow the building of further fortifications. Therefore IMHO, the two construction units currently located at Yenan could be moved out of the base to build fieldworks on the approaches to Sian (or anywhere else you prefer of course).

3. If you see value in maintaining Chinese airplanes at Yenan, then of course you would have to keep the Base Force at Yenan. I admit that due to the difficulty of getting supply there to maintain air operations, I am not certain of the wisdom of keeping airplanes there . Running recon or LRCAP (using the AVG) might be OK but offensive air seems to be too expensive. Thus if no aircraft present, there is no need to keep the Base Force at Yenan. That being so, you could consider relocating the Base Force to form a bridge to get the short legged Chinese fighters (the I-16 is particularly short legged at only 6 hexes transfer range, but the I-15 is not much better at 9) at Hami to Lanchow. If the Chinese 4th Fighter Group is left at Hami, you may never build up a large enough supply stockpile to allow the Group to upgrade post April 1942.

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Hi Castor - thanks. Makes sense....well doesn't make sense but I understand what you say

Hi Alfred - you must have read my mind since after your earlier comments I've already ordered the 2 Construction Rgt's to Sian. I've also orderd the troops NE of Loyang either west to get them parallel to Loyang or NW towards Yenan where there'll stop behind the river.

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CBI -

The big news over the past 3 days is that the Japanese have taken Wenchow! This is not a surprise as Faber's troops beat me there but is a disappointing loss my end.

My end troops are moving towards the key action areas for - south of Kukong and soutth of Nanchang.

Akyab (empty) fell to the Japanese on 23rd April.

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SRA -

Buitenzorg holds again! Despite being low on supply they fought off a Japanese attack causing 2813 casualties whilst receiving 718.

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Australia -

Out of nowhere KB (or at least part of it) sailed east of Brisbane and unleashed hell. Probably a mistake on my part but some shipping was left there without much fighter cover. An attack on 23rd caused little damage. However, an attack on 25th caused massive damage. Damaging all Ship Repair Yards, some HI and sunk SS O-16, AS Columbia, 3 x AK, an AP and an AMc. A further 10 ships are heavily damaged and burning. B*******.

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Submarine warfare -

At long last a little bit of luck for my subs after a week barren patch!

On the 24th SS Grenadier was determined to sink AK Kiyama Maru off Shikuka, surfacing loosing 14 torpedoes at her and only 1 hit! It left her heavily damaged though.

On the 25th SS KVIII, following Allied doctrine, focussed on and doggedly blew to bits the 9000 tonne TK Nihon Maru with 4 torpedo hits over 3 attacks NE of Bangka Island.

Also TK Kyoko Maru was reportedly left heavily damaged after hitting a mine off Bataan.

Annoyingly SS O-20 missed the large AP Argentina Maru off Phuket. Grrrr.

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Today the focus was on one city snd one city alone.....Brisbane.

After 2 attacks in 3 days the Allied commanders were ordered to make the skies over Brisbane 'a nest full of buzzing hornets'.

They succeeded......

The Japanese confident of another day of easy and merciless bombers were surprised when 166 Allied fighters met them. These were the latest models the Allies could offer - Kittyhawk 1's, P39D's and P40E's. I'll let the results speak for themsleves:

Morning Air attack on Brisbane , at 96,160

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
B5N2 Kate x 52
D3A1 Val x 47



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 14
P-39D Airacobra x 86
P-40E Warhawk x 66


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 10 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 14 destroyed, 4 damaged
D3A1 Val: 28 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAK Tarifa, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Nisqually, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Yunnan, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AM Launceton, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Montoro, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Kooringa, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Saury, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
AS Platypus, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Lowana, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Prusa, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK American, Bomb hits 1

It wasn't totally one sided mind you as SS Saury, AM Launceston, AS Platypus, 2 x AK's an AP sank today BUT the cost outweighed the gain IMO.

2 further attacks took place but were smaller in magnitude but no different in terms of Allied victory. KB should be gone for a few weeks ;-)




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