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Slip-Up - 2/24/2012 2:19:47 AM   
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May 22, 1943 -

The only Night Action was a Japanese sub that took a shot at and missed a Dutch DD northeast of Exmouth. The DD couldn't find the Japanese sub in return.

Daylight brought a change in Japanese Air Action as 10 Oscar IIs showed up over the Japanese Infantry Division on the Lashio Road at the Chinese border where Chinese Bombers have been flying fruitlessly the past few turns. There were 12 Chinese Lancers on Escort and the Chinese pilots valiantly tried to fight off the Japanese attackers. In the end 5 Chinese fighters went down, but so did 2 Oscars, and the Chinese Bombers got through to their Target. But once again the Chinese Bombardiers couldn't hit their target in the Rain and Jungle.

After this the rest of the Allied Air Attacks on Burma got underway in a Big Way, with DBs pounding the Air Base at Warazup, and 2Es pounding the Japanese Troops on the Mandalay Road just west of Myitkyina and also just southeast of Kalemyo.

Then the 4Es got to work and repeatedly pounded the Japanese Infantry Regiment that is now facing a British Infantry Division. The Cream of the Allied Fighter Forces showed up over the hex, but no Japanese Fighters or Bombers showed up.

Finally, in the South Pacific Liberators hammered the Air Base at Koumac again.

At that point I waited with Tremendous Anticipation for the British Shock Attack on the Japanese Infantry Regiment in the Burmese Jungle.

And nothing happened!

I pulled my jaw off of the floor, swore in a number of languages and rushed through to see the Turn itself. There, in all its Glory, the British Division stood set at Defend.

I then shutdown the Turn, moved the files out of the Save Folder into a temporary folder, and moved over the last Working Turn from yesterday. I opened the Turn, went directly to the British unit and, @#$%^ , the unit was set to Defend too.

So somewhere along the way, between my many Interim Turns and various distractions, I missed setting the Brits to attack.

So this turn I've left most of my Attacks set the same as last turn, except this time I was careful to set the Brits to Shock Attack. And I rechecked them later.

So, I'll now have to wait another turn to see what happens. In the meanwhile, more and more Japanese Fighters are showing up in Southern Burma – the latest Recon and SIGINT show 86 in Rangoon and 232 in Toungou!

Let's hope that I haven't messed up anything again this turn.

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Breaking the Line - 2/26/2012 7:32:03 PM   
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May 23, 1943 –

There was no Night Action this turn.

Daylight brought the now-usual Japanese Air Attack on the USMC Tank unit south of Wyndham. I still haven’t been able to move enough Supply forward to send out any P-38s on LR CAP.

The rest of the Day belonged to the Allies. First up was a series of Navy 4E attacks on the Air Base at Luganville.

The first wave consisted of 30 PB4Y-1s which were met by 27 A6M3as on CAP. The Navy Bombers blasted by the Japanese fighters, shooting one down on the way in and hitting the Air Base hard. An Emily was destroyed on the Ground as a Bonus.

Next 9 more Navy Liberators flew in and this time met 19 A6M3as. Once again the Big Navy Bombers blasted past the Japanese Fighters and hit the Air Base.

Finally, 7 more Navy Liberators flew in, facing another 19 A6M3as, and hit the Air Base again, shooting down another A6M3a on the way.

There are a number of Japanese TFs at Luganville. I’m not sure if they are bringing in reinforcements, taking out troops or sailing ASW missions. I’ve got a few subs hanging around the Port but they haven’t run into any of the Japanese ships. So next turn I am sending the 4Es back, along with more LR Recon, and with any luck, a Surprise for the Japanese TFs.

The Air War in Burma belonged solely to the Allies today. Allied 2Es hammered Japanese Troops southeast of Kalemyo and west of Myitkyina, and Dive Bombers hammered the Air Base at Warazup again.

Then several waves of 4Es came in and once more hammered the Japanese Infantry Regiment that was 2 hexes southwest of Kalemyo.

I was surprised that no Japanese Planes flew in to try to either interfere with the Allied Air Attacks, or to attack the British Infantry Division that was locked in contact with the Japanese Infantry Regiment. Perhaps my opponent had noticed the ever-increasing numbers of Allied Fighters on CAP in the region and decided not to attempt a shoot-out.

Once the Air Attacks were over it was the turn of the British 2nd Infantry Division to do a full Shock Attack on the Japanese Troops. The long Air Campaign, the natural Supply issues in Burma, and the Jungle Conditions did the trick, and the result was very satisfying:

Ground combat at 58,44

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 10770 troops, 306 guns, 300 vehicles, Assault Value = 352

Defending force 2716 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 90

Allied adjusted assault: 486

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 162 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
848 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 51 disabled
Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 1


Allied ground losses:
168 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2nd British Division

Defending units:
148th Infantry Regiment


What felt particularly good was that it was the British 2nd Division that had been thrown back from the position southeast of Kalemyo some time back and it had rebuilt in the Field and was now capable of opening up a path through the Japanese Jungle Defences.

So the hapless Japanese 148th Regiment is now out in the open, and you can guess where the 4Es are headed next. I’ve posted the current map and if you look carefully you will see that a number of other Allied units are on the move in multiple places, and all heading towards the Center of Burma. The Battle for Burma is only Beginning.

At the End-of-the-Day I got a bit more good news as the final Air Combat results showed that 3 A6M3as were shot down and one lost to Ops Damage over Luganville, while no Navy Liberators were lost.

One Strange Thing was reported by SIGINT – a Japanese TF is reported to be heading westwards away from the DEI island that contains the base called Bima. According to SIGINT, the TF contains 9 or more Patrol Craft of varying types.

That doesn’t make a lot of sense. I do have a couple of subs in the area, including one in the same hex. The Japanese TF could be a Combat TF on ASW duty (how to get around the 4-ship limit on ASW TFs), but somehow I don’t think so.

So I’ve increased my LR Search off of the north and west coasts of Oz and have more submarines moving in the region. I don’t have a lot of Shipping moving along the Coast right now, but I’ll keep it close to Port anyway.






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RE: Breaking the Line - 2/26/2012 8:12:37 PM   
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Well done! Is your division in any shape to cross the river and continue pursuit?

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RE: Breaking the Line - 2/26/2012 8:20:27 PM   
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Well done! Is your division in any shape to cross the river and continue pursuit?


Definitely! It has its orders and it is on its way!




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Hammering Roaches - 3/2/2012 3:05:07 PM   
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May 24, 1943 –

There was no Night Action again this turn.

Daylight brought Japanese Air Attacks on the hapless Chinese Troops at Liuchow and the equally hapless USMC Tank unit south of Wyndham. But I hope to change the situation in Australia next turn as I’ve been able to give Drop Tanks to a couple of P-38 Squadrons and have them set to fly LR CAP over the Marines.

The Japanese Air Force stayed quiet in Burma, but the Allied Air Units flew multiple Missions against various Japanese LCUs along the Front Lines. The retreating Japanese Infantry unit in the Open was hammered again by 4Es, and other Japanese troops received varying amounts of airborne punishment, depending upon the terrain where they were located.

But the Allied Bombing Campaign isn’t stopping my opponent from sending even more Japanese LCUs forward. Air Recon spotted 3 Japanese units at Katha this turn, and more moving in and out of Swebo. The Japanese troops are going up and down the Railway Line like crazy and I won’t be able to stop that until I move in some Troops to cut the line.

Things were relatively quiet in Northern Australia and my build-up continues without interference.

And finally in the South Pacific, while Koumac was pounded into Rubble by 4Es again, Luganville escaped attack due to Thunderstorms. We’ll try again next turn.

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Getting the Jump - 3/5/2012 1:07:28 AM   
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May 25, 1943 –

There was no Night Action again.

Daylight brought a change to the Daily Japanese Air Attacks on the USMC armour in northern Australia as USAAF P-38Gs flew in on LR CAP.

First off 21 P38Gs jumped 20 A6M3 Zeros that were Sweeping in alone. The Lightnings shot down two of the Zeros. Next, 26 Nicks Swept in and they were jumped by 18 P-38s. Two of the Nicks were shot down. Then the Helens started to fly in, but the Lightnings were out of position and couldn’t intercept either of the two Japanese bomber raids. Never-the-less it felt good to see the Japanese plans get a bit disrupted.

Burma continued to be an Allied Playground as Japanese troops throughout the north of the country were hammered relentlessly by hundreds of Allied planes. There isn’t much left of that Japanese Infantry Regiment that is trying desperately to reach the relative safety of Mandalay.

But the real key is turning out to be Katha as Japanese troops there are attempting to move to the East in order to stop the oncoming Chinese Troops. Therefore, I’ve ordered EVERYTHING to hit the Japanese Troops at Katha next turn, including the 4Es and even the Dive Bombers. If the Weather doesn’t interfere it ought to be a spectacular Attack.

In other news, Liberators hit the Air Base at Koumac again, and PB4Y-1s went after Luganville. The Navy Bomber Pilots there even shot down an A6M3a.

But the Bad News was that for the Second Day in a Row the Navy Pilots on the nearby US CV TF flew Recon and Search over Luganville and spotted the various JP TFs that have been sitting there for days, and yet no CV Bomber attempted to attack for the Second Day in a Row.

I’m beginning to think that I ought to use my Fleet CVs for Air Transport too, along with my CVEs…

In any event, the Good News for the Day was in the End-of-Day Air Combat Results:

Ki-45KAIa Nicks – 4 A-to-A, 3 Ops
A6M3 Zeros – 4 A-to-A, 2 Ops
A6M3a Zeros – 1 A-to-A, 2 Ops
H8K1 Emily – 1 Ground

P-38Gs – 3 A-to-A, 3 Ops

No USAAF pilots were lost in the battles.

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Kitchen Sink - 3/6/2012 12:53:58 AM   
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There was no Night Action again.

The Japanese sent out A6M3s and A6M3as on High Level Sweeps over the USMC Tank unit in northern Australia prior to an attack by almost a 100 Helens. There were no Allied planes on LR CAP so the poor Marines were hammered mercilessly.

This was followed by an ambush by Oscar IIs of the Chinese Bombers over the Japanese troops on the Lashio Road. The Chinese Fighters didn’t have their external fuel tanks on so they didn’t escort the Bombers. The result was ugly, with one redeeming feature – 4 Oscars were lost to Op Damage on the long flight.

The Allied Air Forces then got their opportunity as hundreds and hundreds of Bombers attacked Japanese troops at Katha. Untold tons of bombs were dropped with no opposition from the Japanese. The Might of the Allied Powers shook the Earth.

Unfortunately, the damage caused to the Japanese Troops at Katha was incommensurate with the effort, particularly when compared to the horrific damage caused by the Helens on the USMC armour in Australia.

My thoughts rapidly travelled to the phrase, O.F.O. ,as I contemplated the results.

Fortunately, my spirits were lifted a bit by the arrival of Flying Fortresses and Liberators over the Enemy Air Base at Wyndham. The 4Es were met by A6M3as, but with so many Japanese fighters on Sweeps and Escort over the Marines, the Japanese Fighters were at a disadvantage. Three waves of 4Es flew in, hitting the Air Fields and shooting down some Zeros on the way.

Finally, the Air Base at Koumac was hit again by 4Es, keeping it nicely closed.

The End-of-Day Air Combat totals were as follows:

A6M3a – 5 A-to-A, 2 Ops
Ki-43IIa Oscar – 4 Ops
Ki-45KAIa Nick – 2 Ground

B-24D1 – 3 A-to-A, 1 Ops
A29A (Chinese) – 3 A-to-A
DB-3M – 3 A-to-A
SB-III – 1 A-to-A, 1 Ops

So I’ve left my Massive Air Attack in Burma focussed on Katha, while I’ve brought even more 4Es into range of Wyndham. As long as my Supply holds out I will continue to blast the Japanese Troops in Burma into hamburger, and the Japanese Planes in Northern Oz into rubble.

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The Kitchen Sink Revisited - 3/7/2012 2:37:04 PM   
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May 27, 1943 –

The Night Phase saw USS Rasher shoot off 6 torpedoes at an unloading Japanese xAK at Luganville but miss. The Escort ship in the small Japanese Transport TF couldn’t find Rasher afterwards. This was one of the multiple Japanese TFs that has been hanging around Luganville for the past several turns. This was the first turn in which Rasher actually spotted one of those Japanese TFs that have been sitting at the Base.

Daylight started out with lots of Japanese Long Range Air Recon over Allied Bases in Northeastern and Northwestern Australia, but Japanese Bombers didn’t venture out.

The first Air Attacks were by the Chinese Air Force on the Japanese Troops on the Lashio Road. This time Chinese Fighters went along as Escort and Japanese LR CAP didn’t show up.

The Japanese Troops at Katha received the Allied Everything-Plus-the-Kitchen-Sink Air Attack again. The results weren’t bad, but they didn’t seem commensurate with the number of planes in the Air, particularly when you consider the High Experience Levels of the Allied Bomber Pilots. It appears that nothing compensates for Bad Terrain.

The Real Air Battle occurred over Wyndham where even more US 4Es than last turn flew in to attack the Air Base.

The First Wave consisted of 10 B-24Ds, 19 B-17Es and 23 B-24D1s. The 4Es were faced by 34 Nicks and 30 A6M3as. The 4Es were able to blast past they Japanese CAP, shooting down several of each type of Fighter, and hit their Target fairly well. This attack was followed by 3 single squadron Straggler Attacks which faced varying quantities of Japanese Fighters but were still able to get in and hit the target.

The End-of-Day Air Combat Results were reasonable when you consider that the 4Es were operating near to their Range Limit:

A6M3a – 5 A-to-A, 5 Ground, Ops 1
Nicks – 3 A-to-A, 4 Ground

B-24D1 – 3 A-to-A
B-24D – 1 A-to-A
B-17E – 1 A-to-A

The USAAF Bomber Squadrons need Rest now, so I have stood them down.

BTW – the USMC Tank unit survivors enjoyed a rare day without Japanese Air Attack. More importantly, the Allied Build-Up in Northwestern Oz continued without interference.

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Kitchen Sink Three - 3/8/2012 10:30:12 PM   
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May 28, 1943 –

There was no Night Action.

Daylight saw a continuation of the Kitchen Sink Air Attack on the Japanese Troops at Katha. This time Weather interfered with the Air Attacks with only 2Es and DBs attacking in the AM, and only some of the 4Es attacking in the PM.

As I have observed in all of my games, more Bomber Squadrons attacking at once increases the odds of at least a few of them hitting the Target. The Morning Air Attacks were broken up and none of the individual Squadron attacks could find the Target.

So with the Diminishing Returns I decided that Enough-Was-Enough and I re-set my Bombing Attacks in Burma to hit different Targets, particularly Air Bases again. Recon and INTEL reported that the Japanese Troops at Katha have stopped trying to move, so maybe my Chinese Corps will be able to cross the river without having to Shock Attack any Enemy Troops.

BTW – the Chinese Bombers hit their target on the Lashio Road – there doesn’t seem to be any Rhyme nor Reason to when they hit and when they miss.

The only other Air Attack was in the South Pacific where 30 PB4Y-1s hit the Air Base at Luganville again. There was no Enemy CAP, and it appears that my opponent has pulled out his planes and ships. This makes my Build-Up up in the South Pacific even easier.

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May 29 1943 - Interim Report - 3/9/2012 11:49:48 AM   
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May 29, 1943 – Interim Report -

My opponent only had time to run and send the Combat Reply to me, so this is an Interim Report based upon the CR.

There was no Night Action. I continue to be pleased and somewhat surprised that my opponent is not attempting to send in Fast Surface Combat TFs to interfere with my Build-Up at Broome.

Daylight brought out a large number of Japanese Air Recon Missions over northeastern Australia, China and Burma, but no Japanese Air Combat Missions.

The Allied Air Forces also sent out plenty of Air Recon but also sent out Bomber Attacks over Burma.

First in were the Chinese Bombers which flew over the Japanese Troops on the Lashio Road again, but couldn't hit their target this turn.

Next were a series of 2E and DB attacks on the Air Base at Myitkyina. Unlike the recent attacks on Japanese Ground Troops in the area the Air Base attacks were very successful.

Japanese Troops at Katha were also attacked by 2Es this turn. The attacks were surprisingly successful in comparison with the past couple of days of All Out Air Attacks on the same troops, despite there being only a fraction of the Allied planes involved this time.

Japanese Troops in Shwebo were also attacked by 2Es. From the Reports it appears that the Japanese Troops there might be low on Supplies because there were more troops reported to be destroyed than usual.

And finally, the 4Es flew in and hammered the Air Base at Mandalay extremely hard. I'm going to continue to send the 4Es to hit various Air Bases in the Region over the next few days in advance of Allied Troops moving near to various Japanese-controlled bases along the Central Burma Road and Rail System.

So the Allied Advance in Burma, Build-Up in Northern Australia, and Build-Up in the South Pacific continue nicely. I should be able to cut the Rail Line in Burma and start Counter-Invasions in the South Pacific in June. And by the end of June I hope to be in a position to Close the Air Base at Wyndham in preparation for an Advance on Wyndham and Perth in July. Finally, I should be in a position to launch a Raid on the next Japanese TF that moves to Paramushiro-Jima. All-in-All, Summer 1943 ought to be interesting for the Allies.

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RE: Breaking the Line - 3/9/2012 12:22:41 PM   
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Interesting frontline.
I'm about to start a game myself in Niks 42 scenario, where all of Burma is conquered. Playing the Japanese, I wonder how to defend Burma.

What should your opponent have done to avoid your counteroffensive? Which kind of defense would've been effective against you?

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RE: Breaking the Line - 3/9/2012 9:57:25 PM   
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Interesting frontline.
I'm about to start a game myself in Niks 42 scenario, where all of Burma is conquered. Playing the Japanese, I wonder how to defend Burma.

What should your opponent have done to avoid your counteroffensive? Which kind of defense would've been effective against you?


I'm wondering the same things myself in my Japanese pbems...

To be fair, the Battle for Burma is far from over, but I believe that I've got my opponent in a tight spot now, and it will be even tighter once I start to cut the Rail Lines.

In retrospect, my opponent should have prevented me from building up the Bases along the Rail Line from Chittagong to Ledo. I have been able to Max Out the Air Bases along the Rail Line and bring in Air HQs and Air Support that has allowed me to base hundreds of Fighters and Bombers without over-loading any individual base. And all of those Bases except for Chittagong are free from Naval Bombardment.

I suspect that my opponent overrated the ability of his Air Force to keep my Air Bases closed along the Indo-Burmese border. Certainly, when we started this game a year and a half ago I thought that Air Power alone could do much more than it turns out that it can. Even sending in the KB didn't accomplish anything other than waste Naval Planes. In the end, one has to put Troops into Battle to defeat the Enemy.

My feeling is that if my opponent had Landed in Force at Chittagong in mid-1942 and captured the Rail Line Bases he would have pushed back any Allied counter-attack until much later in 1943, even if he didn't bother to go after Calcutta.

At the same time, if he had simultaneoulsy gone after Ceylon and the near-by coastal bases he could have split my defences and forced me back to Central India, in which case I would be fighting base-by-base right now to try to relieve India instead of pushing into Central Burma on a wide Front.

Another thing that has allowed me to move a Lot of forces into the Indo-Burma region is that my opponent didn't try to defend Northwestern Australia when he captured it. That has allowed me to slowly build up my Bases and start to threaten Northeastern Oz and Timor with minimal offensive forces. So my opponent has to keep a lot of forces there too, instead of sending them to Burma or elsewhere. (That's the idea behind my 4-Front Threat; I want my opponent to spread out his defence instead of concentrating it.)

So in summary, my feeling is that the best place for the Japanese to defend Burma is in India. Sure, eventually the Allies can steam-roll Japanese forces in India, but that should add a year to the campaign for Burma.

Good luck with your match.

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RE: Breaking the Line - 3/9/2012 10:19:53 PM   
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I am at the same place as you but September 1942, and for all the same reasons you cite. The failure to interdict all those airfields allong the rail line between Ledo and Chittagong. I then split Burma into 2 by taking Katha. right now I am threating Swebo .. at the very least this strategy you have embarked on will draw resources better used elsewhere ... great game you have thus far!

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RE: Breaking the Line - 3/9/2012 10:28:37 PM   
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I am at the same place as you but September 1942, and for all the same reasons you cite. The failure to interdict all those airfields allong the rail line between Ledo and Chittagong. I then split Burma into 2 by taking Katha. right now I am threating Swebo .. at the very least this strategy you have embarked on will draw resources better used elsewhere ... great game you have thus far!


I was hoping to do the same thing around the same time as you, but I went in to Burma too light in 1942 because I was focussed upon attacking the Kuriles and northern Japan and I sent the bulk of my good forces up there. Only after watching other folks get bogged down or kicked out in northeastern Japan did I decide that I would use my forces in the Aleutians as a threat rather than as a major front.

I certainly wouldn't want to be your Japanese opponent in your game!

Good luck!

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RE: Breaking the Line - 3/9/2012 11:17:15 PM   
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In retrospect, my opponent should have prevented me from building up the Bases along the Rail Line from Chittagong to Ledo. I have been able to Max Out the Air Bases along the Rail Line and bring in Air HQs and Air Support that has allowed me to base hundreds of Fighters and Bombers without over-loading any individual base. And all of those Bases except for Chittagong are free from Naval Bombardment.

I suspect that my opponent overrated the ability of his Air Force to keep my Air Bases closed along the Indo-Burmese border. Certainly, when we started this game a year and a half ago I thought that Air Power alone could do much more than it turns out that it can. Even sending in the KB didn't accomplish anything other than waste Naval Planes. In the end, one has to put Troops into Battle to defeat the Enemy.

My feeling is that if my opponent had Landed in Force at Chittagong in mid-1942 and captured the Rail Line Bases he would have pushed back any Allied counter-attack until much later in 1943, even if he didn't bother to go after Calcutta.

At the same time, if he had simultaneoulsy gone after Ceylon and the near-by coastal bases he could have split my defences and forced me back to Central India, in which case I would be fighting base-by-base right now to try to relieve India instead of pushing into Central Burma on a wide Front.

I would have loved my Japanese opponent to do this in former PBEMs on Allied side. That means all you've got to do is take about three divisions in an amphibious invasion on Moulmein and Pegu or Rangoon. This way you cut off several Japanese divisions by committing only a fraction of the enemy's forces. To hold the Chittagong-Ledo line, you need SERIOUS forces. Those forces can only be supplied by sea, so you fill the sea to Chittagong with subs and interdict with CVs and bombardment groups.
Assuming that Ceylon is properly reinforced - what every experienced player would do, I guess, a Jap invasion there will only cost ships, planes and troops while gaining little.

I've had that in several PBEMs, and doing the things you propose always was exactly what I prefered!

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Another thing that has allowed me to move a Lot of forces into the Indo-Burma region is that my opponent didn't try to defend Northwestern Australia when he captured it. That has allowed me to slowly build up my Bases and start to threaten Northeastern Oz and Timor with minimal offensive forces. So my opponent has to keep a lot of forces there too, instead of sending them to Burma or elsewhere. (That's the idea behind my 4-Front Threat; I want my opponent to spread out his defence instead of concentrating it.)

Sorry, but I don't understand this. By not trying to defend Northwestern Australia, he should've freed the necessary forces to redeploy, shouldn't he? I mean, you either defend and use forces, or you don't defend and don't use forces.

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Good luck with your match.

Thank you :)


Is it easy to supply allied troops in the middle of the jungle not on a road? I'd rather had guessed that the border between Burma and India seems to be like a good natural defense - which it obviously doesn't seem to be.

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RE: Breaking the Line - 3/9/2012 11:48:38 PM   
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In retrospect, my opponent should have prevented me from building up the Bases along the Rail Line from Chittagong to Ledo. I have been able to Max Out the Air Bases along the Rail Line and bring in Air HQs and Air Support that has allowed me to base hundreds of Fighters and Bombers without over-loading any individual base. And all of those Bases except for Chittagong are free from Naval Bombardment.

I suspect that my opponent overrated the ability of his Air Force to keep my Air Bases closed along the Indo-Burmese border. Certainly, when we started this game a year and a half ago I thought that Air Power alone could do much more than it turns out that it can. Even sending in the KB didn't accomplish anything other than waste Naval Planes. In the end, one has to put Troops into Battle to defeat the Enemy.

My feeling is that if my opponent had Landed in Force at Chittagong in mid-1942 and captured the Rail Line Bases he would have pushed back any Allied counter-attack until much later in 1943, even if he didn't bother to go after Calcutta.

At the same time, if he had simultaneoulsy gone after Ceylon and the near-by coastal bases he could have split my defences and forced me back to Central India, in which case I would be fighting base-by-base right now to try to relieve India instead of pushing into Central Burma on a wide Front.


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I would have loved my Japanese opponent to do this in former PBEMs on Allied side. That means all you've got to do is take about three divisions in an amphibious invasion on Moulmein and Pegu or Rangoon. This way you cut off several Japanese divisions by committing only a fraction of the enemy's forces. To hold the Chittagong-Ledo line, you need SERIOUS forces. Those forces can only be supplied by sea, so you fill the sea to Chittagong with subs and interdict with CVs and bombardment groups.
Assuming that Ceylon is properly reinforced - what every experienced player would do, I guess, a Jap invasion there will only cost ships, planes and troops while gaining little.

I've had that in several PBEMs, and doing the things you propose always was exactly what I prefered!


With the KB hanging in the middle of the Indian Ocean you won't land anything at Moulmein...

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Another thing that has allowed me to move a Lot of forces into the Indo-Burma region is that my opponent didn't try to defend Northwestern Australia when he captured it. That has allowed me to slowly build up my Bases and start to threaten Northeastern Oz and Timor with minimal offensive forces. So my opponent has to keep a lot of forces there too, instead of sending them to Burma or elsewhere. (That's the idea behind my 4-Front Threat; I want my opponent to spread out his defence instead of concentrating it.)


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Sorry, but I don't understand this. By not trying to defend Northwestern Australia, he should've freed the necessary forces to redeploy, shouldn't he? I mean, you either defend and use forces, or you don't defend and don't use forces.


I was able to recapture all of the northwest of Oz with odds-and-ends troops - nothing bigger than a parachute unit. So I didn't have to commit any Divisions or even regiments. They were free to go elsewhere. If my opponent had left a few units in each base I would have had to prepare a good unit for each attack.

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Good luck with your match.

Thank you :)


Is it easy to supply allied troops in the middle of the jungle not on a road? I'd rather had guessed that the border between Burma and India seems to be like a good natural defense - which it obviously doesn't seem to be.


No - supplying Allied units in the Jungle is a nightmare. I am using all of my Transports and losing a couple each and every turn. If my opponent put some LR CAP over my troops in the jungle he would wipe out my C-47s in no time and my troops would be stuck.

On the other hand, my opponent isn't using Air Supply for his troops in the jungle so they are always undersupplied.

So he can defend in the jungle, be relatively safe from bombers, and have no supplies, or defend in the bases and be pounded by my bombers. It's an unenviable situation.

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RE: Breaking the Line - 3/10/2012 12:00:12 AM   
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No - supplying Allied units in the Jungle is a nightmare. I am using all of my Transports and losing a couple each and every turn. If my opponent put some LR CAP over my troops in the jungle he would wipe out my C-47s in no time and my troops would be stuck.

I had my last PBEM as Allied. I defended Moulmein and there were strong Japanese forces in the hex. I'd say about 80% of the allied TP together with 2 B-17 units were used to supply that base, to fly in new troops and evacuate others.
While I hade "C-47 was intercepted" nonstop - not a single one was shot down!

I don't know WHAT had happened there, but his LR-CAP was useless as it could be! Can you confirm that LR-Cap can indeed stop airsupply?

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RE: Breaking the Line - 3/10/2012 12:05:30 AM   
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With the KB hanging in the middle of the Indian Ocean you won't land anything at Moulmein...

The indian ocean usally is one of the places it hardly ever gets. For the long-legged jap planes its more like a pond than like a sea. You can always provide LBA - even though it won't be enough against allied CVs (the brit and 1 US-CV were sufficiant for me).

And if the opponent really commits the KB permanently to the Indian Ocean? Thank you, Sir! That means I can take out the Pacific Ocean without problems

I think as Japanese, you have to rely on the strength of the inner lines. Just imagine how much Divisions would be needed for Chittagong-Ledo. I bet five wouldn't be enough by far! Rather 8 or even 10. That doesn't leave much for the rest, especially not for the Rangoon area.

Anyways. I'm not here to capture your AAR - and I'm especially not here to tell you that I think your tactics are bad Sorry for my bad behaviour!

Thanks for your advice regarding Chittagong-Ledo, anyways! I'd love to continue this discussion in my AAR, especially as my opponent won't get my ideas this way

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RE: Breaking the Line - 3/10/2012 12:49:28 AM   
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No - supplying Allied units in the Jungle is a nightmare. I am using all of my Transports and losing a couple each and every turn. If my opponent put some LR CAP over my troops in the jungle he would wipe out my C-47s in no time and my troops would be stuck.

I had my last PBEM as Allied. I defended Moulmein and there were strong Japanese forces in the hex. I'd say about 80% of the allied TP together with 2 B-17 units were used to supply that base, to fly in new troops and evacuate others.
While I hade "C-47 was intercepted" nonstop - not a single one was shot down!

I don't know WHAT had happened there, but his LR-CAP was useless as it could be! Can you confirm that LR-Cap can indeed stop airsupply?


I think that it depends upon the altitude of the LR CAP. I've had transports shot down, and I've shot down transports - usually when the LR CAP is at relatively low altitudes. Like many things in AE, Luck-of-the-Draw plays a big part.

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RE: Breaking the Line - 3/10/2012 12:51:13 AM   
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With the KB hanging in the middle of the Indian Ocean you won't land anything at Moulmein...

The indian ocean usally is one of the places it hardly ever gets. For the long-legged jap planes its more like a pond than like a sea. You can always provide LBA - even though it won't be enough against allied CVs (the brit and 1 US-CV were sufficiant for me).

And if the opponent really commits the KB permanently to the Indian Ocean? Thank you, Sir! That means I can take out the Pacific Ocean without problems

I think as Japanese, you have to rely on the strength of the inner lines. Just imagine how much Divisions would be needed for Chittagong-Ledo. I bet five wouldn't be enough by far! Rather 8 or even 10. That doesn't leave much for the rest, especially not for the Rangoon area.

Anyways. I'm not here to capture your AAR - and I'm especially not here to tell you that I think your tactics are bad Sorry for my bad behaviour!

Thanks for your advice regarding Chittagong-Ledo, anyways! I'd love to continue this discussion in my AAR, especially as my opponent won't get my ideas this way


Thanks for stopping by. I also don't want to put too much detail here about Japanese moves, because my two Allied opponents will get too many ideas!

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RE: Breaking the Line - 3/10/2012 12:54:58 AM   
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you play another two PBEMs?

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RE: Breaking the Line - 3/10/2012 1:02:04 AM   
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you play another two PBEMs?


Yes. One is a Scenario 1 that I started soon after this pbem. If there are things that a Japanese player can do wrong, I've done them in it. (Few people have lost the Yamato on its maiden voyage. ) But in early 1943 I'm still at it, and still learning a ton of things. (I've probably learned more from this match than from any other.)

The other is a Scenario 2 that I started around a year ago. We are currently in mid-1942. I have been applying ALL of the lessons-learned from my other pbems, so at the moment I'm still on plan and on schedule. But even with all of the extra goodies, one has to be very careful on how you use your forces and resources as Japan.

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May 29 1943 - Final Report - 3/11/2012 2:10:17 AM   
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The actual turn brought some interesting tidbits of information.

First off - the End-of-Day Air Combat Report listed 5 Tojos lost to Ops.

Hmmm - it sounds as if some Tojo units were being transferred Long Distance.

Later on when I was checking out Burma I saw that my Recon/SIGINT was now reporting 201 Enemy Fighters at Toungoo. Adding 2 + 2, this makes me suspicious that there are now more Tojos at Toungoo.

In light of that I re-set my Air Attacks in Burma. The DBs and most 2Es are now going after the Japanese Troops at Warazup again. And the rest of the 2Es are going after the Japanese Troops in the jungle to the east of Akyab.

I've also stood down my Chinese Bombers. Instead I've ordered the 4Es to Bomb the Japanese troops on the Lashio Road. If my opponent sends out his Fighters to try to catch some Chinese planes he will have an unhappy time finding 4Es there instead!

BTW - I now have 4 decent Chinese Corps in that hex, so I am flying in Supplies and will attempt an attack as soon as all of the Units are in the "white". I've also got Stillwell there with the NCAC HQ.

Speaking of NCAC - the NCAC Corps has finally crossed the river and is now due east of Shwebo. I have ordered the unit to move to the northwest in order to cut the Rail Line.

Elsewhere, I am still resting my 4Es in Australia and the South Pacific. I have also moved fresh 4E squadrons to Eastern Oz, so next time I do Long Range Bombing I will hit more targets than in the past. (I prefer to try to suppress multiple targets simultaneously rather than try to blast one target at a time into the Stone Age.)

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Ambushed at Warazup - 3/12/2012 3:04:27 AM   
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May 30, 1943 -

There was no Night Action again.

Daylight started out To Plan as 2Es hit the Japanese troops in the Jungle to the east of Akyab. Then the Allied Air Assaults got a big surprise.

For this turn I had shifted the bulk of my Air Attacks from Central Burma to Warazup again in light of the Build Up of Japanese Fighter strength at Toungoo. I expected the Japanese Air to try to stop my attacks on the Rail Line Bases. But instead my 2E Attacks on the Troops at Warazup were met by Oscar IIs.

There were Hurricanes flying Escort on a number of the Allied Air Attacks, but since the attacks came in multiple waves not all waves had Escorts. Likewise, not all waves faced Japanese LR CAP. But enough did to cause the most Air-to-Air losses I've suffered in quite sometime, particularly since one Vengence DB attack came in with no Escorts and was caught by Oscars.

After this the Allied 4Es flew in and hit the Japanese troops on the Lashio Road west of Paoshan. This was where I expected Japanese Fighters to show up, but none did. So the 4Es caused a number of casualties and suffered no losses.

So the End-of-Day Air Combat Report was as follows:

Ki-43-IIa Oscar – 2 A-to-A, 4 Ops

Hurricane IIc Trop – 6 A-to-A
Blenheim IV – 6 A-to-A
Vengence I – 4 A-to-A

Afterwards Recon and Search reports came in and showed Japanese Aircraft at Taung Gyi again. I'm betting that's where those Oscars were based. So I've ordered the 4Es to hit the Air Base at Taung Gyi next turn.

I'm not backing down from Warazup, however, and I ordered the 2Es and DBs to hit the Japanese Troops there again. But this time I've moved up a number of additional Hurricane Squadrons to provide more Escorts.

In other important news in the Region, the British 2nd Infantry Division crossed the River and is now 1 hex west of Shwebo. I've ordered P-38s to fly LR CAP over the British Troops because I expect my opponent to attempt to Bomb the Brits back into the Stone Age while they are in Open Ground.

Elsewhere, I'm still waging Supply Wars in Northern Australia and to an extent in the South Pacific. Thus it will be a bit more time before I've got everything in position and can start to move forward.

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Battles Over Burma - 3/14/2012 1:15:42 AM   
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May 31, 1943 -

My opponent is being tied up this week by that Great Evil – the 4 letter word W*O*R*K, but he still had time to run the turn and send the Combat Reply to me. With any luck he will send the June 1 turn to me tomorrow.

The Night Phase saw a couple of US DDs find and attack a Japanese sub just south of Nadi/Suva. The DDs reported getting 5 hits on the sub, so hopefully the sub will be heading home for a while.

Daylight started out as I expected with 47 Tojos, 21 Oscar IIs and 28 Nicks Sweeping over the British 2nd Infantry Division. Facing the Japanese Hordes were 17 P-38Gs. The USAAF pilots fought hard and fought well, but the Japanese advantage in numbers was too much and 1 P-38G was shot down while no Japanese planes were reported to be downed.

At that point the Weather scrambled the Air Missions in Central Burma and the Brits got a respite for a while. Closer to the Indian border, Allied DBs and 2Es hit the Japanese troops at Warazup again. This time, also as I expected, there were no Japanese Fighters on LR CAP.

The final Air Action of the morning came in Australia as B-24Ds and B-24D1s hammered the Air Base at Katherine for the first time in quite a while.

The Afternoon brought Japanese Bombers out over the British 2nd Division. First in were Helens escorted by Nicks. They were met by a half dozen P-38s and a lone Hurricane. The Allied Fighters shot down 1 Nick but the Japanese Bombers got through to hit the British troops. This was followed by more Helens that were escorted this time by Oscar IIs. The Allied put up a handful of Hurricanes and 1 P-38 this time. Once again the Bombers got through while the opposing fighters scrambled in the Air. Fortunately, the damage on the British troops from the Air Attacks appeared to be minor.

Finally the 4Es got into action and flew in two big waves over Taung Gyi. The big bombers were met by 25 Oscar IIs, but the experienced USAAF Bomber Crews blasted through the Japanese Fighters, shooting down at least 1 Oscar and hammering the Air Base at Taung Gyi. I don't expect that Air Base to be Operational next turn, and I intend to turn the 4Es on Toungoo next.

So now I've got to wait around until I can see the full extent of the results and set my upcoming moves. But you can bet that many of those moves will involve the drone of multiple bomber engines in the Sky.

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May 31, 1943 – Final Report –

The End-of-Day Report showed surprising light losses on both sides over Burma:

Ki-43-IIa Oscar – 3 A-to-A, 2 Ops
Ki-45-KaIa Nick – 1 A-to-A

P-38G – 4 A-to-A, 2 Ops
Hurricane IIc – 1 A-to-A

The P-38G Squadron ended up with low morale and high fatigue so I sat them down for the next turn.

Allied Air Recon and SIGINT reported back an interesting situation in Southern Burma – there are 242 Japanese Fighters at Toungoo, and only 75 at Rangoon. So I changed my plans and I ordered the 4Es to hit the Air Base at Rangoon instead of Toungoo. I also moved my 4Es up to a nearer Allied Air Base so that they fly a shorter route. (See the Burma Map below.)

Elsewhere in Burma I set my 2Es to bomb the Japanese Troops on the Lashio Road because my 4 Chinese Corps there are “in the white” as far as Supply goes, so I have ordered them to try an Attack. I’m hoping that the Japanese Troops are disrupted and low on Supplies.

In Other News, SIGINT reported that a Japanese SNLF unit is planning an attack on Akyab. That would be fun if it were true – the Allied Troops at Akyab would love a chance to have at a small Japanese LCU, and the Pilots there would love to see Paratroops in the Sky if the Japanese came that way.

June 1 brought two major changes as dozens of British, Australian and other Commonwealth LCUs were withdrawn. Fortunately, I had planned for that in advance and all of the withdrawing units had replacements on hand for them. So there were no affect on my plans and no Garrison problems.

The other major change was the arrival of Upgrade Day for hundreds of Allied Ships. I also planned for this and most of the ships are already at Backwater bases. So it will be a busy month in the Repair Yards around the Allied Pacific, but again my plans won’t be impacted.





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June 1 1943 - Northern Oz - 3/15/2012 4:51:29 AM   
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Here's the situation in Northern Australia:






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Here's the situation in the South Pacific. The other regions haven't changed enough to bother updating the maps.






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June 1 1943 - Intel Screen - 3/15/2012 4:59:17 AM   
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And here is the June 1 1943 Intel Screen. The Allied Ops losses are fairly high because I am moving a lot of Air Units around.




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4Es on the Attack - 3/17/2012 3:05:11 AM   
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June 1, 1943 –

The Night Phase saw a Japanese sub spotted twice by Allied TF Escorts just west of Broome. The first ASW attack by an APD and a KV couldn’t find the sub, but the second attack by a lone AM hit the sub a half dozen times. SIGINT later reported that the sub had been sunk, but I tend not to believe those sorts of reports unless the sub comes to the Surface and is sunk with gunfire.

Daylight started out right away with the Allied Air Raid on the Air Base at Rangoon. But the first Attack was not what I expected – instead of 4Es roaring in 4 Marine Corsairs flew in at their Max Range to try to Sweep the Air over Rangoon. I had forgotten to limit their range and so they went on their own.

The Corsairs were met by 36 A6M3as, 4 Oscar IIas, 4 Oscar IIBs and 46 Tojos. To my great surprise the Corsair pilots happily shot up a number of the Enemy planes, downing 2 Tojos, and then got away safely!

The Air Effort then moved over to the Japanese Guard Division that is on the Lashio Road just inside of the Chinese border. Multiple Allied 2E attacks flew in over the Japanese troops. Most of the Attacks couldn’t find the Target, but some did and hit the Japanese troops fairly well. The British DBs, which didn’t have the Range to get there went after the Japanese Troops at Warazup and to my surprise, actually hit their Target quite hard.

Finally the 4Es flew over Rangoon. The First Wave consisted of 43 B-24D1s, 4 Liberator GRIIIs, 9 Liberator IIs, and 13 B-17Es. They were met by 38 Tojos IIs, 4 Oscar IIas, 2 Oscar IIbs and 35 A6M3as. The Big Bombers blasted through, destroying Enemy Fighters in the Air and on the Ground.

This attack was a bit different from my usual 4E attack because I had the planes flying in at 11K Feet instead of the more usual 8K Feet that I use for other Air Base Attacks. But Rangoon is a big base, with lots of AA and Barrage Balloons, so I wanted my Bombers to be above most of those problems.

The Second Wave then flew in – 8 B-24D1s and 14 B-17Fs, which were opposed by 32 A6M3as, 1 Oscar IIb, and 30 Tojos. Once again the Bombers blasted through, although 1 B-24D1 was lost to Flak, and hit the Air Base nicely again.

It was then time for a Surprise Attack as 4Es from Corunna Downs flew over to Koepang and attacked the Port. My opponent has been keeping Ships in the Port at Koepang, so I decided to discourage him a bit.

The First Wave consisted of 16 B24D1s and 27 B-17Es, which were faced by 36 Tojos and a Nick squadron that was interrupted while Training. The 4Es hit an ACM 3 times and damaged the Port facilities lightly. A Second Wave consisting of 6 B-17Es then came in late and faced 34 Tojos and 2 Nicks. The Bombers shot down 1 Tojo but they didn’t hit their Target.

There were no Japanese Air Attacks this turn.

At the end of the day the 4 Chinese Corps attempted a Deliberate Attack on the Japanese Guard Division on the Lashio Road:

Ground combat at 63,45

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 47180 troops, 322 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1766

Defending force 12783 troops, 106 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 458

Allied adjusted assault: 1055

Japanese adjusted defense: 1849

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
402 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Allied ground losses:
1833 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 140 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 152 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled


Assaulting units:
10th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
97th Chinese Corps
NCAC

Defending units:
2nd Guards Division


So despite having almost 4 times the troops, the Chinese couldn’t overcome the Japanese Defences. So I am going to let the Chinese Troops rest until they get their Supplies back into the “white”, and then I start an Artillery campaign against the Japanese.

In other news, the reports on ships going out of commission for upgrades took about 3 times longer to watch than the rest of the Combat Replay.

The End-of-Day Air Combat Totals were as follows:

Ki-43-IIa Oscar – 1 A-to-A, 10 Ground, 1 Ops
Ki-44-IIa Tojo – 8 A-to-A
A6M3a Zero – 2 Ground, 1 Ops
Ki-43-IIb Oscar – 2 Ground

B-17E – 2 A-to-A, 3 Ops
B24D1 – 1 Flak, 2 Ops
B-17F – 2 Ops

Only 2 Allied pilots were lost this turn.

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