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RE: Milne Bay Invaded - 11/17/2011 6:57:45 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		We've deployed the first Jack 2M3s - 4x 20mm guns and service level of 2.
This is a nice improvement of the previous model with 2x20mm, 2x7,9mm and service rating of 3.

The Central Burma Army has almost completed its shift to Chiang Mai as shown on the screen below.
There's a tank regiment left in Central Burma, a Tank Bde plus 10 support units still moving towards Chiang Mai.
With these reserves total Theatre strength Malaya - Burma now stands at around 10k AV.




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RE: Christmas Island falls! - 11/17/2011 9:10:12 PM   
witpqs


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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB

Suddenly the Tony d displayed bomb load...strange.





It might depend on where you looked. When editing a scenario, you can have a plane be one way, but the specific instance of that plane in a specific unit be another way. That little quirk gives scenario designers the ability to, for example, have a certain fighter get a potential bomb load for ground attack, but give a single squadron no such bomb load because it was forward deployed at war's outbreak and did not historically have the equipment.

I am not saying for sure that is the case with the Tony D, but it is one possibility for what you saw. It could also be an error where a change was made to the plane but not propagated to the group that had been equipped with the plane before the change was made.

In any event, if a unit has what you consider to be the 'wrong' version and the planes in the pool have what you consider to be the 'right' version, you can probably fix that by upgrading to another model and then upgrade right back to the Tony D.

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KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/17/2011 11:20:08 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Could be so Witpqs! I put the Tony's on naval attack training now...perhaps that triggered the bomb orndance.

Got a nice snack for you
When I first spotted activity in the Coral Sea around a week ago the Combined Fleet was just SSW of the Marianas enroute to Manila to replenish.
Parts of the fleet had already split of to undergo upgrades in Manila, this included 5 heavy cruisers and the carrier Junyu.

The rest of the fleet was running low on fuel and I had to make a difficult decision; RTB or move towards the Coral Sea.
Sine the Fleet was restless for combat after the abortive mission to the Line Islands it was decided to act.

So we moved west of Truk, replenished from our supply train that raced down from the Marianas, continued east of Rabaul and yesterday a last leg
of 8-9 hexes was lined up to bring the fleet within range. I was afraid we just would miss the train; I had to split off 40% of the fleet that was running low on fuel, so this half
travelled 1 hex shorted than the main fleet.

I was also correct in my estimate; Andy just "lept in" - dumped another division and lept out again.
A surface combat TF just missed the last ships leaving after an MTP had succeeded in sinling an LST.

At extreme range, 7-8 hexes the enemy fleets were spotted and the airborne Samurais' immediately went to work!
The enemy main fleets was spotted at 8 hexes so the Judy nerf immediately cost us and only our Jills could attack them, we still got in 2 nice strikes with over 200 bombers.
A smaller fleet was spotted 1 hex closer so our Judy's also got something to work on.

Results could have been even greater with Judy's but we could also have missed the train completely - another close call, take a look for yourself!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 06, 44

Surface Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 101,133, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-221
MTB G-232
MTB G-234, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MTB G-10, Shell hits 15, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Dauntless
DD Sims
DE Hotspur
DE Crouter, Shell hits 1
AM Arnidale
AK Ascella
AK Livingston
AK Indus
AK Amador
AK Antrim
LST-39
LST-40
LST-41
LST-122
LST-335, Shell hits 1
LST-350
LST-446
LST-479, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-484
LCI-435
PC Jackson
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 101,134, Range 28,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya
CL Isuzu
CL Kitakami
DD Shikinami
DD Oboro
DD Mutsuki
DD Asakaze
DD Hayate

Allied Ships
CL Adelaide
DE Austin
AK Cheleb
AK Pavo
AK Alamosa
AK Beaverhead

Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 7,000 yards
Range closes to 26,000 yards...
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
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Range closes to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 7,000 yards
Allied TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 8,000 yards...
Range increases to 9,000 yards...
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Range increases to 11,000 yards...
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Range increases to 30,000 yards...
Range increases to 30,000 yards...
Allied Escort TF evades combat
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Merauke , at 89,124
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 39
N1K1-J George x 24

Allied aircraft
P-39N1 Airacobra x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39N1 Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
17 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 66

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K2 Emily: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 48
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Morning Air attack on 2nd JNAF AF Unit , at 101,133 (Milne Bay)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 8
Kittyhawk IV x 6
Mitchell II x 11
Spitfire VIII x 18
PV-1 Ventura x 14
B-25D1 Mitchell x 32
B-25G Mitchell x 9
B-25H Mitchell x 6
P-38H Lightning x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 13
P-40N5 Warhawk x 7
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 11
P-51B Mustang x 10

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 10 damaged
B-25G Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Liberator GR.VI x 7
B-24D1 Liberator x 35
B-24J Liberator x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 36
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Morning Air attack on Woodlark Island , at 104,133
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 13

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 39

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 36
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Morning Air attack on Woodlark Island , at 104,133
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 26
A6M5b Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Merauke at 89,124
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 112 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 36
P1Y1 Frances x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Coquina, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AM Shepparton
xAK Sagadahoc, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
27 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet

Coquina dead in the water ...
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 100,136
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 127
A6M5b Zero x 17
B6N1 Jill x 11
B6N2 Jill x 65

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 1
P-38J Lightning x 2
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 1
F6F-3 Hellcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
B6N1 Jill: 2 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 11 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK Antrim, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CA Canberra, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
APA Harry Lee, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
CA Frobisher, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Devonshire
DD Renshaw
DD Philip
AK Indus
xAK Mahukona, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AK Bullock
APA Joseph T. Dickman, Torpedo hits 1
LST-39, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Cape May, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Le Maire
DD Schroeder
CL Dauntless, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
509 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 24 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 31 (31 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
11 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
13 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
10 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
9 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
9 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
8 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
11 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
8 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
17 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
11 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
14 x A6M5b Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
13 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
8 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
9 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
11 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 100,136
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 93 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 9

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 1
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 1
F6F-3 Hellcat x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAK Mariso, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
CA Devonshire

Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 100,136
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 126
A6M5b Zero x 17
B6N2 Jill x 127

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 1
P-38J Lightning x 2
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 1
F6F-3 Hellcat x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 15 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Corregidor, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
LST-41, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Rochussen, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CA Frobisher, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CL Mauritius
CA Devonshire, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CA Sussex
AK Amador
AK Beltrami, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AK Blount
DD Stanly
DD Humphreys
CL Sumatra, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CL Birmingham, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Philip
xAP Republic, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Glasgow
LSI(L) Empire Pride, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Brevard
DD Monssen
CL Mobile
xAP Van Rees, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AK Bullock
AK Cabell, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
1127 casualties reported
Squads: 68 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 32 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 26 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 13 (13 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 100,136
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 3,100 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia Peggy x 4

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia Peggy: 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAK Corinda, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 15 (2 destroyed, 13 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-67-Ia Peggy bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 100,134
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y1 Judy x 27
D4Y3 Judy x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y1 Judy: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Adelaide, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AK Pavo, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AK Cheleb, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Alamosa, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x D4Y1 Judy bombing from 15000 feet *
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
9 x D4Y3 Judy bombing from 15000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Adelaide
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AK Alamosa
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AK Pavo
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 100,136
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N1 Jill x 10
B6N2 Jill x 18

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N1 Jill: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
APA Doyen, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Renshaw
DD Nicholas
APD Herbert, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LSI(L) Empire Pride, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD Philip

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
9 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 100,134
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y1 Judy x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CL Adelaide, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DE Austin, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Cheleb, on fire, heavy damage
AK Pavo, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x D4Y1 Judy bombing from 15000 feet *
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Adelaide
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DE Austin
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AK Pavo
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Ground Combat

Enemy shock attack just fails to capture Milne Bay. Parts of one Australian division has not been completely unloaded.
Much of these troops now rest on the bottom of the Coral Sea.

Ground combat at Milne Bay (101,133)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 10531 troops, 295 guns, 57 vehicles, Assault Value = 652
Defending force 3732 troops, 31 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 102

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4
Allied adjusted assault: 453

Japanese adjusted defense: 139
Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
587 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 48 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 7 (3 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
252 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 94 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 21 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Assaulting units:
7th Australian Division
8th Australian Div /10

Defending units:
148th Infantry Regiment
10th RF Gun Battalion
2nd JNAF AF Unit
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Kido Butai strikes

It was a brutal strike that met little opposition!
Here is a compilation of the ships that were hit: 32 ships including 1 CVE, 3 CA, 3 CL, 2 destroyer types, 3 LSTs, 4 assault ships and 16 troops and cargo ships.
Some of these were hit by LBA in nearby waters.

CVE Corregidor, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

CA Frobisher, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CA Devonshire, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CA Canberra, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CL Adelaide, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CL Sumatra, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CL Birmingham, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

DE Austin, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
APD Herbert, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

LST-479, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-41, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
LST-39, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

xAK Coquina, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Sagadahoc, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Antrim, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Mahukona, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Cape May, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Mariso, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
xAP Rochussen, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AK Beltrami, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Republic, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAP Van Rees, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AK Cabell, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Corinda, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AK Pavo, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AK Cheleb, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Alamosa, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

APA Harry Lee, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
APA Joseph T. Dickman, Torpedo hits 1
APA Doyen, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
LSI(L) Empire Pride, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk




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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/18/2011 12:50:15 AM   
Cribtop


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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/18/2011 5:54:24 AM   
pauk


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thats excellent strike!

Well, Andy actually killed his men and sink his ships by himself. Sending invasion TF without CV cover while he doesnt know where KB could be is... pretty easy going (im such diplomat )

perhaps you can evacuate your troops from Milne Bay now? You cant hold there for too much longer.

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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/18/2011 7:10:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Andy keeps throwing away his forces like the AI does. I´ve long stopped wondering about his actions. What does he think about sending such a force to Milne Bay? Even LBA could whipe it out easily. I´m not as diplomatic as Pauk is, Andy plays at times as if it would be his first game and even then one should do better. And I´m sure he knows that.

< Message edited by castor troy -- 11/18/2011 7:14:23 AM >

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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/18/2011 7:54:55 AM   
plund

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB

The enemy main fleets was spotted at 8 hexes so the Judy nerf immediately cost us and only our Jills could attack them, we still got in 2 nice strikes with over 200 bombers.

Pardon me but what is a 'Judy nerf'?

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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/18/2011 8:01:20 AM   
Puhis


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Status: offline 		They reduced Judy's range.

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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/18/2011 10:51:13 AM   
janh

 

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Status: offline 		Congrats, the CA and CL on Andy's side must run out sooner or later.  You have again been unbelievably lucky, and should I call it a present from Andy?  A little of both, I guess.

Andy is taking more risks, but he actually has to if he still wants to make it to the HI.  He plays for "all or nothing, glory or dead" it seems.  He will probably not split his CV main force to support a theater that likely won't be decisive and can be suppressed by his LBA.  I was surprised to a see a CVE here, though.  Whether he would bring his CV main force here, I don't know but don't expect so.  He probably is busy covering the clean up the Line Islands, the shuttling of LCU around or maybe just replenishing at Pearl?  If I was him, I would now be seeking to draw KB into a battle close to Pearl, and far from the yards in Japan.  Ideally even employing 4B in naval bombing and carrier-CAP sweeping.  Imagine the B29 on skip-bombing...

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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/18/2011 1:14:42 PM   
castor troy


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Status: offline 		it just again shows that mounting amphibious assaults from several different directions is not that much of a smart idea when the enemy still has carriers and LBA to react against it. Focus on one direction, use the hammer and move forward with the enemy not being able to do something against it. If you go away from that tactic and split your force then the enemy will always have a chance to punish you. KB against the full might of Allied carriers and LBA is something KB will regret trying to. KB against little or no LBA at all getting a shot against an invasion convoy? OMG, I should keep my comments behind my back.

Can´t see any reasonable explanation for all of Andy´s disasters. Again and again and again. Just look at that attack at Moulmein trashing thousands of Allied av! And that by one that was responsible for the ground combat model? Sorry, he should just know better not to shock attack across the river right into Moulmein. And a hundred more pages of AAR that show many more rather flawed decisions. PzB will get Andy to a point when Andy runs out of squads, ships and aircraft. The fact that he has to use P-40 for frontline duty at this stage of the war says it all anyway with the P-40 of 1944 being as crappy as the P-40 of 12/7/41.

Kudos to PzB but Andy really is a thankful victim.

Banzai!

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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/18/2011 1:21:40 PM   
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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/18/2011 8:30:37 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Thx guys, I know you love to see the decadent democracies take a beating

I think Andy has handled his amph invasions of PM and Milne Bay quite well.
In and out in 1 turn - and it is like said; he's in mid 44 and can't hassle around any longer.
Allied carrier fleets need to work together to be superior to KB and thus can't be two places at the same time.

It may look easy to add another nail but all the decisions from committing the KB, meeting with replenishment fleet going flank speed not to cause delays and
then the split hex attack from 7-8 hexes with low fuel reserves. It's touch and go; I got it right, was lucky and beat Andy by 1 hex (again).

This turn was not so great;

1. I sent the KB west 3-4 hexes and ordered a combined sea & air bombardment of Milne Bay.
Wanted to cripple Allied troops there.

--> Our bombardments from the sea were semi-efficient but KB refused to launch a single ac against them from 8 hexes.

In return ca 100 enemy ac (fighters and medium bombers) attacked KB.
They didn't hit anything but I was scared to see 8 out of 12 B-25s with a tiny escort slip so easily through our 250 fighter CAP to make attack runs.

2. Allied shock attack at Milne Bay capture the base and Andy has now secured southern New Guinea and will soon be able to dominate Solomons and New Britain.

3. I got a bit "over committed" and sent the small fleet a Tagula Island west to intercept fleeing enemy ships.
Hoped to sink the cripples and catch a few more high value assault transports and LSTs.

--> We missed the enemy by 1 hex and even though the TF was ordered to return to base after its 6-7 hex long journey it didn't.
Instead it stayed put just within Allied SBD and TBD efficient range This cost us 1 CA, 2 CL and 1 DD. The old CLs I could have lived with but the Suzuya was a bad loss.
It was hit by 1 torp that didn't cause much damage, then 3 1000lb bomb hits wrecked it completely; 76 fires and I had to scuttle her. So a small consolation for Andy here.
I should have sent only the smaller ships or stayed away but forgot all about the bad tendency of TFs to "stick around" when they absolutely shouldn't.

So we've had another victory with some unnecessary losses and been reminded that Allied LBA can be absolutely deadly even to KB with 1000+ ac.
I will continue to snipe and be an opportunist in the Solomons - New Guinea area.

Time to vanish into the shadows again!


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 07, 44

Bombardments

Night Naval bombardment of Milne Bay at 101,133

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
BB Kirishima
CA Aoba
CL Teshio

Allied ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Mutsu
BB Mutsu firing at 7th Australian Division
BB Kirishima firing at 7th Australian Division
CA Aoba firing at 7th Australian Division
CL Teshio firing at 7th Australian Division
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Night Naval bombardment of Milne Bay at 101,133

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
BB Kongo
CA Tone
CL Yahagi
DD Tagokaze
DD Teruzuki
DD Akizuki

Allied ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

BB Hiei firing at 7th Australian Division
F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Kongo
BB Kongo firing at 8th Australian Division
CA Tone firing at 7th Australian Division
CL Yahagi firing at 7th Australian Division
DD Tagokaze firing at 7th Australian Division
DD Teruzuki firing at 8th Australian Division
DD Akizuki firing at 7th Australian Division
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Sub Attacks

Submarine attack near Milne Bay at 99,133

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-53

Allied Ships
AK Pavo, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

AK Pavo is sighted by SSX Ha-53
SSX Ha-53 launches 2 torpedoes at AK Pavo
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 98,137
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 9
TBF-1 Avenger x 27

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CA Suzuya

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 12000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
21 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 98,137
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 9
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 13

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya
CL Kitakami
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Treasury Islands at 108,133
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 229
A6M5b Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 3
P-38J Lightning x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 2 destroyed
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Treasury Islands at 108,133
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 220
A6M5b Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 3
B-25D1 Mitchell x 6
B-25G Mitchell x 3
P-38H Lightning x 19
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Mitchell II: 3 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25G Mitchell: 2 damaged
P-38H Lightning: 4 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CVL Shoho
CV Unryu
CVL Nisshin
CV Katsuragi

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 11000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x Mitchell II bombing from 11000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
1 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 11000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x B-25G Mitchell bombing from 11000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 98,137
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 18
TBM-1C Avenger x 16

Allied aircraft losses
TBM-1C Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya, Torpedo hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 98,137
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 9
PV-1 Ventura x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Kitakami

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 15000 feet
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Treasury Islands at 108,133
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 164
A6M5b Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CV Shinano

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 11000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 98,137
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
Barracuda II x 11
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya
CL Kitakami, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Barracuda II bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Treasury Islands at 108,133
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 139
A6M5b Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Mitchell II: 2 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Treasury Islands at 108,133
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 134
A6M5b Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 2 destroyed
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 98,137
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Kittyhawk IV x 8
Spitfire VIII x 16
P-38H Lightning x 3
P-38J Lightning x 6
P-40N5 Warhawk x 6
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 14
P-51B Mustang x 8
TBF-1 Avenger x 20

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Kitakami, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Shikinami

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 98,137
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 4 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Kittyhawk IV x 8
Spitfire VIII x 16
P-38H Lightning x 3
P-38J Lightning x 6
P-40N5 Warhawk x 6
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 14
P-51B Mustang x 8
SBD-5 Dauntless x 14

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Shikinami, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x SBD-5 Dauntless bombing from 16000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 98,137
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 52 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Kittyhawk IV x 8
Spitfire VIII x 16
P-38H Lightning x 3
P-38J Lightning x 7
P-40N5 Warhawk x 6
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 48
P-51B Mustang x 8
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 11

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Oboro

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
6 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Suzuya
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 98,137
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Kittyhawk IV x 8
Spitfire VIII x 16
P-38H Lightning x 3
P-38J Lightning x 6
P-40N5 Warhawk x 6
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 14
P-51B Mustang x 8
TBF-1 Avenger x 13

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Shikinami, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 16000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Shikinami
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 98,137
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Kittyhawk IV x 8
Spitfire VIII x 16
P-38H Lightning x 3
P-38J Lightning x 6
P-40N5 Warhawk x 6
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 14
P-51B Mustang x 8
TBF-1 Avenger x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Oboro

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 12000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Suzuya
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Milne Bay (101,133)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 9848 troops, 294 guns, 57 vehicles, Assault Value = 555
Defending force 3654 troops, 33 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 84

Allied adjusted assault: 316
Japanese adjusted defense: 33

Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 2)
Allied forces CAPTURE Milne Bay !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E8N2 Dave: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1962 casualties reported
Squads: 42 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 47 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (14 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (14 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Allied ground losses:
415 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 44 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
7th Australian Division
8th Australian Div /10

Defending units:
148th Infantry Regiment
2nd Raiding Rgt /2
10th RF Gun Battalion
2nd JNAF AF Unit
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Post #: 3102
RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/18/2011 9:33:41 PM   
pauk


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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB

Thx guys, I know you love to see the decadent democracies take a beating



quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB
Time to vanish into the shadows again!


hey mate, you are a real poet!


couldnt resist, but i had to say how much i like your style


quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB
he old CLs I could have lived with but the Suzuya was a bad loss.


hmph, i always loved those torp cruisers (Oi and Kitakami). Yes i know that their torpedo tubes arent working in the game, but radar and AA rating always kept me faithfull about them. Probaby im wrong, but hey im romantic guy!



< Message edited by pauk -- 11/18/2011 9:34:55 PM >

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Post #: 3103
RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/19/2011 12:21:31 AM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Thx Pauk-San!

I know, been tryin to use the torpedo cruisers but they catch a single torpedo or bomb and that's about it...
The heavy cruisers is a proven concept on the other hand!

This turn I tried to take advantage of the disorganization among Allied fighter units in New Guinea; most of them were most likely fatigued and still on escort missions.
So I gathered the bulk of our fighters and ordered 100 bombers to strike. Almost everything worked; 200 fighters overwhelmed the CAP and our Judy's broke through to pound an assault transports and more.
If ONLY our 70 Betty naval bombers 12 hexes away with Air HQ support had followed suit we had given the Allied fleets a nasty backlash.

Well, c'est la vie - dang hard to coordinate things properly here, just as in RL

Some unescorted Allied bombers went alone to Rabaul and were massacred by the relatively weak CAP there. Even Tony a's are capable against such prey (have ordered them to upgrade to the c version now!).


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 08, 44

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 27
D4Y2 Judy x 19
J2M2 Jack x 35
N1K1-J George x 15
Ki-46 KAI Dinah x 6
Ki-84a Frank x 91

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 10
Kittyhawk III x 6
Kittyhawk IV x 8
Spitfire VIII x 23
Hurricane XIIb x 6
Kittyhawk I x 2
Kittyhawk III x 4
P-38J Lightning x 8
P-39N1 Airacobra x 13
P-40K Warhawk x 9
P-40N5 Warhawk x 8
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 18
P-51B Mustang x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 5 destroyed
D4Y2 Judy: 6 destroyed
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IV: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
APA Sheridan
CA Canberra
xAK Simoon, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
APA Ormsby, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Simoon
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring APA Ormsby
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Rabaul at 106,125
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 7
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 20

Allied aircraft
SBD-5 Dauntless x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 15 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Katsukawa Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SBD-5 Dauntless bombing from 16000 feet *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Merauke at 89,124
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 38
P1Y1 Frances x 9

Allied aircraft
P-39N1 Airacobra x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAK Ensley City, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AM Geelong
AM Shepparton, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
24 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rabaul at 106,125
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 7
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 20

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 2 destroyed
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rabaul at 106,125
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 7
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 19

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 2 destroyed
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Raiding Port Moresby in Style




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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/19/2011 10:30:01 AM   
inqistor


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Status: offline 		The whole Milne Bay operation was completely unnecessary. Especially with this number of ships. If Andy wanted to invade place, he could used only barges, but I can hardly see use for this base. With 3 bases covering it, there was surprisingly few CAP fighters over there.
Most Allies BBs are already sunk, Cruisers vere in short supply, and now there are even less of them. You can probably challenge next landing with surface battle (but avoid his airforce).

With whole peninsula under control, Lae seems to be next logical target. It can be easily taken by land, but I suspect Andy will send fleet there. Flood whole bay with short-range subs. They should slow invasion fleet enough to catch them during unloading. What are thiose Allied ahips at Buna anyway?


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ORIGINAL: PzB

Bombardments

Night Naval bombardment of Milne Bay at 101,133

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
BB Kongo
CA Tone
CL Yahagi
DD Tagokaze
DD Teruzuki
DD Akizuki

Allied ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

BB Hiei firing at 7th Australian Division
F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Kongo
BB Kongo firing at 8th Australian Division
CA Tone firing at 7th Australian Division
CL Yahagi firing at 7th Australian Division
DD Tagokaze firing at 7th Australian Division
DD Teruzuki firing at 8th Australian Division
DD Akizuki firing at 7th Australian Division

So, it actually seems to work sometimes...

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

It might depend on where you looked. When editing a scenario, you can have a plane be one way, but the specific instance of that plane in a specific unit be another way. That little quirk gives scenario designers the ability to, for example, have a certain fighter get a potential bomb load for ground attack, but give a single squadron no such bomb load because it was forward deployed at war's outbreak and did not historically have the equipment.

I am not saying for sure that is the case with the Tony D, but it is one possibility for what you saw. It could also be an error where a change was made to the plane but not propagated to the group that had been equipped with the plane before the change was made.

I think it only works for groups starting on map. Any arriving later seems to have planes in-line with in-game model.
Also, I am not sure if plane do not get streamlined when Drop Tanks are turned on. I see this with my 4E experiment, when originally they are listed with original bombload, but changing mission, and drop tanks shows new bombload.

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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/19/2011 11:27:08 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		I must disagree there; Milne Bay is key to opening up the Solomons and New Britain region.
Already today Allied air strength attack Rabaul. Woodlark Island (AF size 5) will soon be captured and all of Solomons will become untenable.
Within 4-6 months New Britain will be isolated and Allies can continue their drive up New Guina while moving towards Marshalls.

I don't mind fighting in these regions in mid 44, much better than a concerted drive into the SRA but Allied losses and logistics make this difficult as seen by previous...setbacks

I intend to fight over Rabaul, far from enemy fields with few pilot losses and with ample support and a size 9 airdrome and supporting fields we can cause some damage here.
I'm also planning a couple of reinforcement operations to strengthen key strategic bases and regions.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 09, 44

Sub Attacks

The midgets are one shot weapons only efficient against slow or crippled targets.
The ones at Milne Bay are now running out of fuel and ammo but they claimed another victim today.

Submarine attack near Milne Bay at 101,133

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-61

Allied Ships
AK Cheleb, heavy damage

AK Cheleb is sighted by SSX Ha-61
SSX Ha-61 launches 2 torpedoes at AK Cheleb
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Submarine attack near Milne Bay at 101,133

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-62

Allied Ships
AK Cheleb, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

AK Cheleb is sighted by SSX Ha-62
SSX Ha-62 launches 2 torpedoes at AK Cheleb
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 19
J2M2 Jack x 10
N1K1 Rex x 7
N1K1-J George x 5
Ki-46 KAI Dinah x 2
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 20
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 24

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 54 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 19
J2M2 Jack x 10
N1K1 Rex x 6
N1K1-J George x 5
Ki-46 KAI Dinah x 1
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 20
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 18
Ki-84a Frank x 23

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 3 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 17
J2M2 Jack x 10
N1K1 Rex x 6
N1K1-J George x 5
Ki-46 KAI Dinah x 1
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 20
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 18
Ki-84a Frank x 23

Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 6
B-24J Liberator x 5
B-25D1 Mitchell x 24
B-25G Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 3 damaged
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed on ground
N1K1 Rex: 5 damaged
Ki-46 KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-61-Ia Tony: 3 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 23 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Mitchell II: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 4 destroyed, 14 damaged
B-25G Mitchell: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 19
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 12
N1K1 Rex x 6
N1K1-J George x 4
Ki-46 KAI Dinah x 1
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 6
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 3
Ki-84a Frank x 6

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12
B-25D1 Mitchell x 3
B-25H Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1 Rex: 1 damaged
N1K1 Rex: 1 destroyed on ground
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-46 KAI Dinah: 1 damaged
Ki-46 KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-61-Ia Tony: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-61-Ia Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 3 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 6 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed on ground
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 7 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 3 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 16

Banzai! - Kurakane G. in a A6M5 Zero rams a B-25H Mitchell for the Emperor
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 4
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 3
Ki-84a Frank x 2

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 11
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 12
P-51B Mustang x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1 Rex: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ia Tony: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses
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New Guinea - Solomons

The entire Lae region as seen on the map is easily defensible because of the rough jungle terrain - a fact I'm going to take advantage off.
Bombardments have a limited effect on enemy LCU only when very large forces are committed - results then are quite minimal as seen here.




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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/19/2011 11:50:43 PM   
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I must disagree there; Milne Bay is key to opening up the Solomons and New Britain region.
Already today Allied air strength attack Rabaul. Woodlark Island (AF size 5) will soon be captured and all of Solomons will become untenable.
Within 4-6 months New Britain will be isolated and Allies can continue their drive up New Guina while moving towards Marshalls.


+1

Milne can be built into a pretty big airfield.

I think the timetable is faster than that, 3 - 4 months tops. Allied engineering units are huge. Milne AB will get maxxed out in like 14 - 18 days if he wants. That puts a large LBA with fighter cover over all of the Solomons. As you know, he can close a field each day, and you can't really defend as you can't rail your damaged air groups away.

I'll be watching how you defend. I haven't come up with a good solution.

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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/20/2011 1:37:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Within 5 months the entire South - Central New Guinea, New Britain and the Solomons will most likely be cut off, isolated or captured.
The pace depends on how much resources Andy puts into this offensive. I'm not going to make an all out defensive effort, just delay.
- I'm slowly extracting non-essential units from the region and moving it north.

I want a solid defense in Marianas and a strong strategic reserve at Mindanao; something like 2500 AV for counter-invasion ops.
We can't prevent Allies from landing 5-6 divisions werever they want but we can counterattack and stall any such invasions if properly prepared.
- Stalled Allied invasion is a victory for us.

Allied ac hit Rabaul again today - cost them 30 B-24s and we hardly lost any killed pilots.
A huge base with 9 forts and supplies is difficult to suppress from 10-12 hexes.

Another ugly bugly showed its face today; B-29s mining Bataan harbour from Burma at max range, 35 hexes.
Think I will move some of my training units to Manila and deploy them at 30% CAP and 50% training.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 10, 44

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 45
J2M2 Jack x 17
N1K1 Rex x 14
N1K1-J George x 24
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 13
Ki-84a Frank x 19

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 44
J2M2 Jack x 16
N1K1 Rex x 11
N1K1-J George x 24
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 13
Ki-84a Frank x 19

Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 3
PV-1 Ventura x 6
B-24J Liberator x 54
B-25H Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
J2M2 Jack: 2 damaged
N1K1-J George: 4 damaged
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 6 damaged
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-84a Frank: 18 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-61-Ia Tony: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Mitchell II: 1 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 5 destroyed, 23 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 9
Runway hits 30
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Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 37

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 7000 feet *
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 6000 feet *
6 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 8000 feet *
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 7000 feet *
6 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 7000 feet *
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 6000 feet *
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 8000 feet *
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 5000 feet *
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 6000 feet *
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 6000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 9

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 7000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 7000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 22
J2M2 Jack x 5
N1K1 Rex x 5
N1K1-J George x 20
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 7
Ki-84a Frank x 4

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 31
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 27
P-51B Mustang x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 6 destroyed
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1 Rex: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51B Mustang: 1 destroyed
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B-29s...




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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/20/2011 11:17:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, New Britain is a key location, and though Andy was careless with sending this landing force of high-value targets rather poorly covered, had bad luck with KB making the 8th hex in time, the operation might turn out to be an important one.  Andy is getting even more pushy it seems -- Moulmein, and simultaneous ops on other fronts.  He is playing the clock now, so he might go for even greater risks soon.  For sure, his magical eye is focused on KB now   He probably is desperate for any intel on its parts, and happy to have found it at Milne Bay. 

Rabaul with lvl 9 AF and forts sounds huge, but we have seen how little forts can mean.  Hopefully, even if B-29 get involved, the lvl 9 airfield complex supported by smaller AF can hold out a couple of weeks.  You are right, it is a great opportunity to fight over your own turf and hurt Andy's air forces.  Surely Andy will attempt to shut down all air bases and then launch some amphibious landings. NE-New Guinea, New Ireland and New Britain might be on his list.  With large air bases there, and 29's stationed, he could hit and in effect control the ports and bases of huge area.

Scary to see the B-29 reach Manila now, to be honest.  That has huge implications for security of your naval lines in the China Sea.  What other ports can he mine now? A couple come to mind...  And imagine he will use the 29's on port strikes, even if just at night?  Not good, but that's the advance thru Burma good for.  I think it was Canorebel who used an advance into Vietnam successfully to set up 4EB bases to eliminate all of the DEI and SRA effectively?  Or was it Cannonfodder?  Don't recall, but the AAR was over sometime last year, and that was a slow but low-risk-high-gain move.  Will Andy go for that too?

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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/20/2011 2:04:17 PM   
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Another ugly bugly showed its face today; B-29s mining Bataan harbour from Burma at max range, 35 hexes.
Think I will move some of my training units to Manila and deploy them at 30% CAP and 50% training.


B-29's are quite efficient at this, far more than any other plane in my experience. Not sure if this is real or just perceived or more of my unlucky rolls ...

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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/20/2011 4:06:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I suspect it's real and is another manifestation of the linear nature of the game. B-29s drop the most ordinance and get more die rolls. That said, this is what all those local minesweepers are for.

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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/20/2011 4:15:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hm, yes I need to have 4-5 teams of dedicated mine sweepers based in key areas were Allied 4Es can drop mines.
Andy discontinued his attacks on Rabaul; too costly. This gave me an opportunity to strengthen the fighter defenses there.
As of now Allies still doesn't have sufficient number of fighters and bombers in the area to both suppress our ground forces, close our airfields, act as naval bombers and
launch a campaign against Rabaul.

We should keep in mind that Andy is fighting a tough battle; it will take a lot for him to achieve anything better than a draw and time is short.
We still controll a territory the same size as Japan did in Mid 42 and got a lot more strength to defend it with.

Allies starting to nibble at our resources in the SRA is something we will have to live with.
I will place some interceptors as the more valuable bases and ensure that the B-29s will pay a price for their visits.

Within 2 months we will have 3 new fast Katsuragi carriers and a new light carriers and dozens of escort destroyers.
I think I will take up raiding, forming 2 fast high endurance task force with some fast fleet oilers and try to perform hit and run ops.
- As long as we still controll Midway there is a huge gap were we can slip into the Pacific.

I'm here thinking about 2 34 knot carriers escorted by 2 light or heavy cruisers of Oyodo / Tone Class plus 4 Akizuki class destroyers.

B-29s hit Miri at max range today, minor damage to refineries.
In return we set an ambush over Moulmein and gutted another 25 or so B-24s.
Had hoped that more medium bombers would strike but ok, this was not so bad either.

In the Central Pacific Intel has informed that CA New Orleans has been sunk with a given coordinate.
This means that flooding has increased; I'm using the intel to vector a sub precisely into the path leading from this coordinate and to San Francisco.
- This was the same method I used to pinpoint Allied cripples west of Australia 7-8 months ago. One of the few ways to use the limited Jap intel.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 11, 44

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Miri , at 64,87
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 45

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged

Refinery hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 30000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 30000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 30000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 30000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 8000 feet *
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 7000 feet *
9 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 30000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 30000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Moulmein , at 55,55
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 12
J2M3 Jack x 13
N1K1-J George x 62
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 48
Ki-84a Frank x 28

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 8
B-24J Liberator x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 8 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 7 destroyed, 11 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground Combat

Paras securing dot bases around Milne Bay.

Ground combat at Kiriwina Island (102,131)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 42 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 4
Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Kiriwina Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
1st Australian Para Bn /1
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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/20/2011 10:54:34 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Tried to gather our army bombers for an attack against an Allied bomber base.
180 Helen IIb and numerous fighter units were assigned. A large unit of "sacrificial" Oscars were also sent along.

Not a lot to cheer Banzai about...more faint ...ai! :p

1. Bombers didn't go in together but in 3-4 waves
2. Enemy CAP was inferior to our escort but we suffered immense losses in escorts and moderate bomber losses.
Our "sacrificial" Oscars took the heaviest casualties fortunately.
3. Our trained bomber units caused only minor-moderate damage to targets.

It's absolutely futile to mount such ops; seems like Japan is doomed to defense in the air from 44-46.

In Burma our Central Army has now returned to Chang Mai, in 3 days monsoon season sets in.
In the Solomons the Allies are flooding into the area around Milne Bay; little to be done about that.

Numerous new land combat units are arriving in Home Islands, will rest and prepare them and insert them into the Main Defensive Line.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 12, 44

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 72
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 48
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 65

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 9
Spitfire VIII x 22
Spitfire VIII x 10
P-40N5 Warhawk x 31
P-51B Mustang x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 13 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 16 destroyed
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40N5 Warhawk: 3 destroyed
P-51B Mustang: 1 destroyed
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
34 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 35
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 15
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 54

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4
Spitfire VIII x 11
Spitfire VIII x 2
P-40N5 Warhawk x 13
P-51B Mustang x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 3 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed on ground
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed on ground
PV-1 Ventura: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 66 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 11
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 19

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4
Spitfire VIII x 7
P-40N5 Warhawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 111 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 4
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 18

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
Spitfire VIII x 3
P-40N5 Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/22/2011 12:25:06 PM   
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Nice 4E kills there , i always wonder what Andy does with the Allied aircraft , he doesn't seem to want to conserve them and create pools of the better a/c , all the better for you then

As ever good luck and great read.

PS World of Tanks , hope to see you there sometime , got TS3 ? if so we can platoon up and actually chat .. that would be interesting after reading all your AAR's . and clan wise we accept anyone over 21 who isn't a complete idiot if you fancy trying out a friendly group. our forums are here http://xiii.monkeh.net/ if your interested. We are a very multi national group but mostly North Europeans , Basically anywhere North of Britain.

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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/22/2011 6:42:20 PM   
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Andy is playing with his new toys and is mining and bombing everywere possible with his B-29s both from Burma and Northern Oz.
- I'm distributing my mineseweepers

Enemy has now marched through the jungle to Salamua, it's a rough jungle hex with 3 forts and 140 AV so let's see if 1 division is enough to take it.
Enemy paras are collecting dot bases near Milne Bay and Line Islands while an amph invasion is about to hit Palmyra. The latter has run out of supplies - it had 600 troops
over max limit and this "ate" 6000 supplies in a week and with Xmas Island out of business there's no way to restock. I have airlifted important units and cadres out.

In general using huge flying boats to collect troops that have stranded in the jungle, like those that retreated from Milne Bay.

In Moulmein we have 5000 AV and 4 forts + building. More than enough me thinks and I'm busy building a large reserve at Bangkok and Singapore.
The division cadre evacuated from Xmas Island together with 2 shattered regiements and the CD unit have arrived at Guam and started rebuilding; within 6 months the place will have its garrison ready.
- Lots of this logistical tasks all over the place.

Yeah, perhaps I need to join up Rob - not getting any further team wise in WoT. Most teams are made up Baldricks without cunning plans
TS3 in place, have played some platoon missions but that only set you up against 1 tier higher opponents, so not much to gain. Just unlocked the E-75, GW Tiger and VK4502A and trying to get the best
gun for the Jagdtiger

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 14, 44

Mine Warfare

TF 237 encounters mine field at 49,83

Japanese Ships
AMc Kyo Maru #1

31 mines cleared
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TF 237 encounters mine field at 49,83

Japanese Ships
AMc Kyo Maru #1

4 mines cleared
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TF 136 encounters mine field at 49,83

Japanese Ships
E Ishinui, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
E Tobui
SC Ch 36

5 mines cleared
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Morning Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6

No Allied losses

Refinery hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/29/2011 8:24:52 PM   
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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 11/29/2011 11:06:54 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Sorry about that Pauk-San!
The Emperor has given us a week off to enjoy sushi, sake and geisha treats!

We're still doing a turn per day; mostly hundreds of air strikes on bases south in New Guinea and on Palmyra.
Nothing really worth talking loudly about. We sent BB Hiei and 3 heavy cruisers + 1 light cruiser and 5 destroyers to bombard enemy division at Salamua.
With 6 spotters we claimed 12 casualties

KB has returned to base to refurbish; upgrading some Judy's to "version 2" - but this is almost exactly the same crap as the first with a service rating of 3.
Also found some "pre-production" Judy's - version 3 with the range we need. All our latest carriers arrived with these, so when we get 3 more fleet carriers we will have a 75% 8 hex strike capability.
- Just waiting for the Grace and reinforcements while cleaning up mines, hundreds of mines dropped by B-29s. We lost a few sweepers, that's about it.

Next great upgrade for Combined Fleet is scheduled to 6-7 /44 while last batches go in 9, 12 and 1/45 me thinks.

Rabaul will soon become totally suppressed by Allied air power in Southern New Guinea area; it's just a question of stocking the place up and evacuate everything that can burn.
We got a "faulty" AA unit that has the equipment of a full tank division; this is the native garrison with 9 forts.

Ok, back to rainy November and a few hours of blessed sleep before being dragged out of bed and out into the darkness to work for the state again

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 18, 44

Bombardments

Night Naval bombardment of Salamaua at 98,127

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
CA Kako
CA Aoba
CA Tone
CL Yahagi
DD Tagokaze
DD Hamakaze
DD Urakaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Akizuki

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Hiei
BB Hiei firing at Americal Infantry Division
CA Kako firing at Americal Infantry Division
CA Aoba firing at Americal Infantry Division
CA Tone firing at Americal Infantry Division
CL Yahagi firing at Americal Infantry Division
DD Tagokaze firing at Americal Infantry Division
DD Hamakaze firing at Americal Infantry Division
DD Urakaze firing at Americal Infantry Division
DD Tokitsukaze firing at Americal Infantry Division
DD Akizuki firing at Americal Infantry Division
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< Message edited by PzB -- 11/29/2011 11:07:57 PM >

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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 12/3/2011 5:30:37 PM   
PzB74


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From: No(r)way
Status: offline 		Time for a more extensive update:

Andy is busy in Line Islands and in New Guinea - New Britain.

In Line Islands Palmyra has been pounded flat and enemy troops landed there yesterday.
We held on without supplies for 2 days. Cadres of all LCUs on the island has been withdrawn.

In New Britain area LCUs landed a whole Oz Divsion at Gasmata; well I think only half the division got ashore.
When I got the last turn the small crafts were already at Gasmata and I used Zero's on naval attack and PT boats to punish them.
We sank dozens but the combat elements of the 1st Oz Div still got ashore.

Let's see what we can do to disrupt this move with limited resources.
Allied para's also landed in dot bases on New Britain.

Today's counterstrike came at Moulein; a full LRCAP effort caused heavy Allied losses in the air.
We lost some ac to OPS but only 13 pilots were lost in all theatres today.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 22, 44

Invasions

Pre-Invasion action off Gasmata (103,127)

21 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
LCT-153
LCT-154
LCT-155

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

LCT-153 fired at enemy troops
LCT-154 fired at enemy troops
LCT-155 fired at enemy troops
LCT-153 fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Moulmein , at 55,55
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 10
J2M3 Jack x 13
N1K1-J George x 112
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 43 <- The Oscars take most of the beating instead of our crack fighter units
Ki-84a Frank x 131

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 9
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 12
B-25D1 Mitchell x 10
P-38J Lightning x 15
P-40N5 Warhawk x 26
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 8
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 3 destroyed
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
P-38J Lightning: 5 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 7 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 15000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 103,127
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 2,100 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 47
Ki-84a Frank x 49

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 damaged
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
LCT-137, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-359
LCT-147, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-134
LCT-139, Shell hits 1, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
LCT-149, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-135
LCT-143
LCT-151, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-150
LCT-153, Shell hits 2
LCT-140, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-355, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
47 x A6M5 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
20th PS (P) with P-40K Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

Massive explosion on LCT-137
Massive explosion on LCT-140
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Morning Air attack on Moulmein , at 55,55
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 60 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 7
J2M3 Jack x 13
N1K1-J George x 95
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 32
Ki-84a Frank x 114

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 5
A-20G Havoc x 13
P-40N5 Warhawk x 1
P-51B Mustang x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
A-20G Havoc: 8 destroyed, 1 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 1 destroyed by flak
P-51B Mustang: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 15000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 103,127
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 5,100 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 40
Ki-84a Frank x 49

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
LCT-353, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-352
LCT-359, Shell hits 1
LCT-326, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-373, Shell hits 1
LCT-179, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-320
LCT-478, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-351, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-356, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-361, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
LCT-350, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
40 x A6M5 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet

Massive explosion on LCT-361
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Afternoon Air attack on 144th Infantry Regiment, at 170,133 (Palmyra)
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 24
Barracuda II x 22
Corsair II x 42
F4U-1A Corsair x 87
F6F-3 Hellcat x 31
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 83
SB2C-3 Helldiver x 15
TBF-1 Avenger x 9
TBM-1C Avenger x 91

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 3 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
312 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
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Surface Combat

Day Time Surface Combat, near Gasmata at 103,127, Range 3,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-540
MTB G-548
MTB G-549
MTB G-843
MTB G-844
MTB G-845
MTB G-847

Allied Ships
LCT-130, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
LCT-131
LCT-132, Shell hits 1
LCT-133, Shell hits 1
LCT-134
LCT-135
LCT-136, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
LCT-138
LCT-141
LCT-142
LCT-143, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
LCT-144
LCT-145
LCT-146
LCT-148
LCT-150, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
LCT-153, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
LCT-154, Shell hits 1, on fire
LCT-155, Shell hits 10, and is sunk

Minami D. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Task forces break off...
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Palmyra (170,133)
Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2987 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 52
Defending force 3789 troops, 45 guns, 172 vehicles, Assault Value = 103

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
144th Infantry Regiment
Kure 7th SNLF
1st JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
762nd Tank Battalion
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
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Ground combat at Palmyra (170,133)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3789 troops, 45 guns, 172 vehicles, Assault Value = 103
Defending force 3656 troops, 64 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 46

Allied adjusted assault: 18
Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 4)
Allied forces CAPTURE Palmyra !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
4935 casualties reported
Squads: 157 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 320 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 81 (81 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 3

Allied ground losses:
353 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
762nd Tank Battalion
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
34th Combat Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
144th Infantry Regiment
Kure 7th SNLF
1st JNAF AF Unit
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Ground combat at Gasmata (103,127)
Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 472 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 34
Defending force 6387 troops, 143 guns, 34 vehicles, Assault Value = 369

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
15th/C Div /1
2nd Raiding Rgt /3
37th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
1st Australian Div /26
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Ground combat at Arawe (102,126)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 31 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 3
Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Arawe !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
1st Australian Para Bn /1
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Ground combat at Cape Gloucester (101,125)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 64 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 6
Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Cape Gloucester !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
2nd Fiji Commando Bn /1
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Solomons - New Guinea - New Britain - Line Islands regions

In general I'm busy with logistics; building up fuel and supply bases, reinforcing bases and equipping our main lines of resistance.

We now have 10 of the new Matsu destroyers; they will release 10 fleet destroyers from escort duties for the slower Car Divs.
I'm also pulling most subs back to refit. We only have 8 coastal subs and 24 fleet subs operational now. I want to increase the number to 50 and
equip them with radar before deploying them in more organized ways. E.g. wolf packs against enemy fleet ops, mining and recon missions.

In 3 months I expect the Empire to reach its peak fighting strength; foremost we're waiting for 4 carriers, 2 light cruisers, 20 destroyers, 20 subs and the Grace multi dive - torpedo bomber.
Numerous LCU reinforcements also make it possible to make certain theatre's "Andy proof". My plan is to make 3 strategic reserve grouping of 3 or more divisions for counter attacks.
- All successful defensive operations depend on strong counter attacks in air, sea and land.




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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 12/3/2011 6:39:31 PM   
pauk


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hmph, what are your plans there?

I think you should delay Andy at Gasmata using Imperial Navy (both surface raiding and bombardment TFs, once when he moves ac there)

the more effort you put in the 'defence' at New Britain, the more attention from Andy you will recive there. And its better to fight there then allow him to advance towards New Guinea.

Ofc, we all aware that N. Britain is secondary theatre, but it would be a pitty not to exploit exposed Allies at Gasmata and buy another month.

Just remember, the more effort you put in "defence", the more Allied resources you will bring there. Andy will become greedy... and when he do that, you can make a *poof* dissapearing without trace (to the Marians...)

and this one is for motivation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FB1QCo1y_s





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RE: KB hit enemy fleets in Coral Sea - 12/4/2011 3:46:49 PM   
PzB74


Posts: 5076
Joined: 10/3/2000
From: No(r)way
Status: offline 		There are dozens of small dot bases and islands in the region and I can't defend them all.
Most bases therefore have 3-4 forts and ~30 AV for defense. Only the bigger bases have dedicated garrison units.
If a base is invaded I will immediately try to reinforce and drag the battle out and then get the troops out again afterwards.

With Gasmata Andy sent a full sized division, fully prepped, in small landing barges and they appeared and unloaded within 1 turn.
This was very well planned and executed and didn't give me time to counter. I ordered reinforcements to be flown in by seaplane and over 150 bombers were
ordered to perform ground attacks while numerous MTBs buzzed around the place.

As usual, it's difficult to get Jap air units to fly even with aggressive commanders and support, so only 45 or so ac attacked with little effect.
The Allied shock attack brought down all forts and Gasmata is bound to fall tomorrow.

While I would like to throw in more troops and resources I have to contend with one fact; The Empire doesn't have a limitless pool of supplies and troops.
I'm working hard to build supply depots and provide strong garrisons and reserve forces for the main defensive lines. This effort is so all consuming that even the
holding activities in the Solomons - New Britain - New Guinea region are difficult to sustain.

Each time Andy pops his head out a bit to far I'm going to be there to smack it with a large fly swatter though

The numerous reinforcement units that are arriving in the Home Islands now are not at full strength anymore and morale is low, how can it be!!
So I have to rest them, prepare them and ship them out with supplies. Making the Marianas including Truk and Carolines, Northern New Guinea, Phillippines, DEI, SRA ++ ready for combat
is a daunting task. Hundreds of smaller bases require smaller garrisons and 2-3000 supplies while ~50 or more require strong garrisons and large supply pools. Then we got 4-5 major hubs
like Singapore, Soerabaja, Truk, Rabaul, Manila, Bangkok etc that must be bullet proof and provide 250+ air support and 150k supplies or more.

Just wait until Andy tries to handle this; then we can sit back and enjoy the fruits of our hard labour now!
So no matter how unattractive, we're now fighting a delaying battle in the outer perimeter bases. Small TFs are transporting surplus units and base forces from the isolated or bypassed bases back
into the perimeter lines.

Nice motivation Pauk-San!


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 23, 44

Air Combat

Andy now dutifully swept Moulmein with hundreds of fighters before making a meek bombing run.
This is the price of bombing us here, constant sweeps and high fatigue.

Our fighter strength is growing, all frontline units are at full strength and weekly numerous second rate fighter units can be upgraded with Franks, Jacks or Tonys
Our traing and rear area units now consist of Zeros, Oscars and Tojos mostly.

Afternoon Air attack on 1st Australian Division, at 103,127 (Gasmata)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 2,100 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-46 KAI Dinah x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick bombing from 100 feet
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Afternoon Air attack on 1st Australian Division, at 103,127 (Gasmata)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 27
Ki-84a Frank x 49

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
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Ground Combat

Did a mistake and launched the same para unit to recapture 2 dot bases in New Britain.
Said sorry to Andy for this...


Ground combat at Gasmata (103,127)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 7157 troops, 144 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 368
Defending force 1761 troops, 29 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Allied adjusted assault: 246
Japanese adjusted defense: 43

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 4)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
207 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
174 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st Australian Division

Defending units:
Yokosuka 5th SNLF /1
15th/C Div /1
41st Nav Gd /1
2nd Raiding Rgt /3
37th JNAF AF Unit
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Ground combat at Arawe (102,126)
Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 230 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 13
Defending force 116 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Japanese adjusted assault: 9
Allied adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Arawe !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
168 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
2nd Raiding Rgt /2

Defending units:
1st Australian Para Bn /1
1st Australian Div /1
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Ground combat at Cape Gloucester (101,125)

Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 124 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9

Defending force 58 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4
Japanese adjusted assault: 9

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Cape Gloucester !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Allied ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
2nd Raiding Rgt /4

Defending units:
2nd Fiji Commando Bn /1
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Gasmata assaulted




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