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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/2/2010 11:29:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: PzB

Andy says we need to slow down; a bug prevents his armored units from taking replacements.
We need to wait for the patch or upgrade to beta? Asked him about the latter.

Don't know were his carriers are Mynok; not at Pearl cause then he would have been more active around Palmyra me thinks.
Probably Suva area! Still, I got the KB nearby - so if he wants to trap my convoy he needs to handle 6 carriers in total.

Thx Cribtop; but honestly - Andy has been retreating up until now and the victories have been easy ones!
Logistics is hard to handle; my Central Pacific Operations turned out to be a shoestring ops
- In a year we will know how succesful my campaigns have been!

Long time Harvey, which way did you go - Kabul?
Let me know, are things going according to Andy's plan?

Ok some good news today!
Andy is going to need Red Adair to put out these fires....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 06, 42

Surface Combat

My scouts run into the convoy - and it's more than 11 ships, it's 25!!
Without an escort loaded with FUEL!
EVIL KANIVIL

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cocos Islands at 8,104, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AV Kamikawa Maru

Allied Ships
xAK Jalaratna
xAK Pundit
xAK Sirsa
xAK Taiping
xAK Tak Sang
xAK Tanfield
xAK Wo Sang
xAK Autolycus
xAK Clan Macilwraith
xAK Elmdale
xAK Empire Grenfell
xAK Forthbank
xAK Glenaffric
xAK Mahsud
xAK Pardo
xAK Subadar
xAK Turing Mary
xAK Siantar
xAK Iron Knob
xAK Momba
xAK Moonta
xAK Elisavet
xAK Mary Livanos
xAK Michael Goulandris
xAK Zannis Cambanis

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 64% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
Japanese TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat
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Air Combat

We have 72 strike planes minus 20% set of for searches...and only 27 launch in both AM and PM.
Why so lame? Still 6 ships lit up and sinking; only 19 to go. We split up the escort to hunt!

Morning Air attack on TF, near Cocos Islands at 6,108

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
B5N2 Kate x 18
D3A1 Val x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Momba, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAK Forthbank, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAK Tak Sang, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Empire Grenfell
xAK Elmdale
xAK Taiping
xAK Clan Macilwraith, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Zannis Cambanis, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Mary Livanos, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
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Ground Combat

Ouch, found a more substantial Chink stack....

Ground combat at 85,42
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 36393 troops, 316 guns, 156 vehicles, Assault Value = 1344
Defending force 83790 troops, 543 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3001

Japanese adjusted assault: 471
Allied adjusted defense: 5194
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 11

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker: disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
7715 casualties reported
Squads: 34 destroyed, 351 disabled
Non Combat: 37 destroyed, 312 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Vehicles lost 41 (0 destroyed, 41 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
557 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
59th Infantry Brigade
6th Mongol Cavalry Division
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment
32nd Division
13th Tank Regiment
110th/C Division
41st/A Division
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
1st Chinese Corps
36th Chinese Corps
41st Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
47th Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
76th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
57th Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
43rd Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps
22nd Group Army
5th War Area
8th Group Army
4th Chinese Base Force
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Caught up with the main Allied force retreating to Alice Springs; tried to defeat it with
a single recon regiment to allow 2 to pursue. Need more firepower I see.

Ground combat at 75,142
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1025 troops, 4 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 157
Defending force 2453 troops, 3 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 36

Japanese adjusted assault: 18
Allied adjusted defense: 63

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (0 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Assaulting units:
48th Recon Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
26th Recon Regiment

Defending units:
2nd Recce Battalion
Tennant Creek RAAF Base Force
Katherine RAAF Base Force
NW Aus Aviation Rgt
1st Fgtr RAAF Wing
10th Patl RAAF Wing
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
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Securing my Holliday Island

Ground combat at Palm Island (92,143)
Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 33 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 4
Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Palm Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
2nd Raiding Rgt /1
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Convoy Battle

PzB,

Yes go ahead an upgrade to the beta. It really is unfair to be on the offensive as the bug really kills all Australian and Indian armor units and I find that these are big in defending OZ.

I have found nothing wrong with the beta and it certainly cured that bug.

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/2/2010 11:57:46 PM

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Is it a trap? Yes, he's lulling you into a justified sense of security ;-)

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/3/2010 7:57:38 AM

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It does not seem that convoy planning is Andy's strong suit given the way you have really hammered him with everything from subs, to CV intercepts to surface raiders. If as the Allies you don't get creative you subject ourself to leaving alot of merchant shipping and cargo on the bottom of the Pacific against player of your caliber. Andy is going to miss those tankers you have been hammering when trying to get the fuel necessary to sustain those big offensive ops in late 43.

I think that is one of the more underappreciated aspects of the game and given the way AE has put the kabash on the Allied "over supply" in WitP one of the more critical to Allied success. It is definitely one that I always focused on. It is not glamorous and is rather time consuming, but it sure does payoff. The japanese player will have the same kind of issues getting resources to the home islands against a player who is active with his subs. I look forward to seeing your convoy plans.

John, I was tasked on short notice to go to AFG, I was given 10 days to pack my bags and do the "duffle bag drag", so I pretty much dropped all non essential activities and focused on getting ready to deploy. I am in Kabul working for the NATO Training Mission. Went by the Norwegian Mission Support Element on the ISAF compound yesterday, so if you decided to visit Kabul there would be a place for you have lunch (although GEN McChrystal stopped all the sale of alcohol on the compound).

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ORIGINAL: Nemo121

Is it a trap? Yes, he's lulling you into a justified sense of security ;-)

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/3/2010 5:18:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: denisonh

It does not seem that convoy planning is Andy's strong suit given the way you have really hammered him with everything from subs, to CV intercepts to surface raiders. If as the Allies you don't get creative you subject ourself to leaving alot of merchant shipping and cargo on the bottom of the Pacific against player of your caliber. Andy is going to miss those tankers you have been hammering when trying to get the fuel necessary to sustain those big offensive ops in late 43.

I think that is one of the more underappreciated aspects of the game and given the way AE has put the kabash on the Allied "over supply" in WitP one of the more critical to Allied success. It is definitely one that I always focused on. It is not glamorous and is rather time consuming, but it sure does payoff. The japanese player will have the same kind of issues getting resources to the home islands against a player who is active with his subs. I look forward to seeing your convoy plans.

John, I was tasked on short notice to go to AFG, I was given 10 days to pack my bags and do the "duffle bag drag", so I pretty much dropped all non essential activities and focused on getting ready to deploy. I am in Kabul working for the NATO Training Mission. Went by the Norwegian Mission Support Element on the ISAF compound yesterday, so if you decided to visit Kabul there would be a place for you have lunch (although GEN McChrystal stopped all the sale of alcohol on the compound).

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nemo121

Is it a trap? Yes, he's lulling you into a justified sense of security ;-)

I do believe that the French base (somewhere) has a bar and alcohol is freely available there (upto a personal limit) but being french i doubt they classify wine as alcoholic

.. Brits too are booze free these days, rather odd considering our football fans get very aggressive and dangerous after boozing up, surely our squaddies bladdered up to the hilt would deterr the taliban

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Back on track , nice convot kill there , far too big a convoy imo anyway, he'd have to split it up to unload anywhere, so should have had several small ones on differant routes to minimise potential ambushes. Maybe Andy has a weak point here ,, although i am sure he can make it back up with ground combat.

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/3/2010 11:07:58 PM

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So you're enjoying the sun in Kabul; hope you got more than a trench to sleep in

Say hello to Mr Taliban from me - with a hand grenade if possible!-)
Take care down there and get back in one piece Harvey!

Updated to the beta patch - didn't notice much difference; old plagues still haunt me.

Andy is a tad lazy with subs and convoys, the very annoying thing is that he almost got away with it; should have finished that convoy!

- Sent out 3 seaplane tenders, 2 warships and the 2 carriers but the enemy convoy was gone gone gone....
There's no way to order "shadow convoy" so by turning on full speed the convoy could escape faster than our search planes could follow them even when "surrounded" by our ships and planes.

Was also hampered by the bug that hit my fighters last time; this time ALL Kate torpedo bombers were set to 100% training.
Probably when I set a unit in Japan. There is something wrong here and I'm starting to get a bit frustrated as I had set the Kates on 20% search to follow the enemy convoy.

At Palmyra I have had 3 docked ships for 3 days with 3-4000 supplies unloading; island supply levels have been stationary at _20_ supplies

Don't really get it, just like the AKV that wouldn't unload.

Got some big plans but I'm wavering a bit; not sure if I dare to deploy, cause time and again I meet these strange little annoyances and carriers that refuse to launch. - Starting to loose faith and can see a big disaster looming on the horizon; probably when the KB is wiped out when refusing to launch ac at a critical moment.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 08, 42

Ground Combat

Ground combat at 89,150
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1175 troops, 2 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 55
Defending force 946 troops, 16 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 26
Japanese adjusted assault: 52

Allied adjusted defense: 3
Japanese assault odds: 17 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
250 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
5th Recon Regiment

Defending units:
30th Australian Brigade
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This is Andy's rag tag Army in Alice Springs; they repulse our recon regiment - which obviously is low on supplies.
Adjusted defense...1 :p) 42 stationary tanks should have more firepower than that.

Ground combat at Alice Springs (74,143)

Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 2873 troops, 34 guns, 117 vehicles, Assault Value = 114

Defending force 1025 troops, 4 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 38
Allied adjusted assault: 82

Japanese adjusted defense: 1
Allied assault odds: 82 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
139 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 39 (11 destroyed, 28 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 31 (0 destroyed, 31 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2nd Recce Battalion
3rd Australian Brigade
Katherine RAAF Base Force
NW Aus Aviation Rgt
10th Patl RAAF Wing
Tennant Creek RAAF Base Force
1st Fgtr RAAF Wing
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
107th RN Base Force

Defending units:
26th Recon Regiment
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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/4/2010 7:41:13 AM

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well, there�s another possibility why the convoy in this area is gone from one day to the other, but I let you figure out why this has happened.

Could be that your search ac had no chance to find it

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/4/2010 9:45:04 PM

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Please don't tell me that it's possible to "zoom" off the maps edge....

Andy sent 3 destroyers to Townsville today, probably motivated by his easy kills earlier on.
What a dead boring encounter; 2 single hits from ranges between 3 and 13000 yards, being 8 against 3 didn't help - nor did Japan's so called superior night fighting abilities. - The complete opposite of what happens when a convoy is engaged.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 09, 42

Surface Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Townsville at 92,144, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kazegumo, Shell hits 1
DD Satsuki
DD Minazuki
DD Kamikaze
DD Oite
TB Hayabusa
TB Hato
TB Kamo

Allied Ships
DD Russell
DD Ellet
DD Dunlap, Shell hits 1

Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 32% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
DD Dunlap engages DD Satsuki at 8,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages DD Ellet at 8,000 yards
DD Dunlap engages DD Minazuki at 8,000 yards
DD Dunlap engages DD Kazegumo at 8,000 yards
DD Ellet engages TB Hato at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
DD Oite engages DD Dunlap at 3,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages DD Ellet at 3,000 yards
DD Dunlap engages DD Minazuki at 3,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages DD Ellet at 3,000 yards
DD Kazegumo engages DD Dunlap at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
DD Dunlap engages DD Oite at 5,000 yards
DD Ellet engages DD Satsuki at 5,000 yards
DD Dunlap engages DD Minazuki at 5,000 yards
DD Dunlap engages DD Kazegumo at 5,000 yards
DD Ellet engages TB Hato at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages DD Dunlap at 8,000 yards
DD Ellet engages DD Kamikaze at 8,000 yards
DD Dunlap engages DD Minazuki at 8,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages DD Ellet at 8,000 yards
TB Hayabusa engages DD Dunlap at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
DD Ellet engages DD Oite at 10,000 yards
DD Ellet engages DD Kamikaze at 10,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages DD Russell at 10,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages DD Russell at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
DD Dunlap engages DD Oite at 13,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Russell at 13,000 yards
DD Kazegumo engages DD Russell at 13,000 yards
DD Dunlap engages TB Hayabusa at 13,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Sub Attack

This was a good one, fully loaded large tanker near Sydney!

Submarine attack near Sydney at 92,168

Japanese Ships
SS I-29

Allied Ships
TK California Standard, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

TK California Standard is sighted by SS I-29
SS I-29 launches 6 torpedoes
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Air Combat

Been sweeping the P-40's at Alice Springs with Zero's and now crack Oscars', just can't seem to get an edge.
Strange.

Morning Air attack on Alice Springs , at 74,143
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
P-400 Airacobra x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
20th PS (P) with P-400 Airacobra (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 10 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Alice Springs , at 74,143
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
P-400 Airacobra x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
20th PS (P) with P-400 Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
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Indecisive

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/4/2010 10:02:52 PM

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Ok, I've pondered and here it is:

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/4/2010 10:03:13 PM

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...and

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/4/2010 10:03:33 PM

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...and maybe

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/4/2010 10:10:38 PM

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Audacious. India got boring, eh? What will it be in your next game? Continental US?

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/4/2010 10:14:34 PM

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OK, here is my question/concern. How many troops are you using for this? (i.e. how many divisions) Does this not require a large effort? And therefore, does this not weaken your perimeter, leaving you open to a counter thrust somewhere else? What have you done to defend your perimeter such as Burma, Sumatra/Malaya, Java, Solomons, Marshals, Kuriles?

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/4/2010 10:34:15 PM

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Yep, audacious - but who dares wins and now it's Hammer time�

Need to go through the combat roster, but we got something like 6 full sized divisions, 1 brigade and maybe a dozen crack regiments and 20 tank / recon regiments. Will get back with more details later on, you just got a sketch for now; but the invasion force is already on its way!

I'm putting ca 2000 AV in Burma including strong armored units with some reserves in Singapore - Java - Luzon area.
Elite fighter and naval bombers units are available in Singapore / Sumatra and Java with more in the Home Islands.

The perimeter bases are being developed; New Guinea - Solomons with mutually supporting bases.
The idea is that the KB will patrol the area from Rabaul to Sydney and be available for a strong counter attack on an enemy invasion force in this area. If Andy wants a full carrier clash in 42 or early 43 he can have it.

In the Central Pacific - Marshalls we have now expanded into Palmyra and I've sent numerous reinforcements to this area.
It will be a slow slugging match to get to Kwajalein which is heavily supported by naval bombers.

Not concentrating in the Kuriles; building troops closer to the Home Islands. I'm not moving out 4th Fleet troops but keeping them as a reserve. If Andy makes a major effort I will have to consider using the KB to hit him in the flank. Can't see he would be interested in anything like this before mid 43 at earliest.

When attacking in India we put all our eggs in a far away basket; Oz is much more central and it will be possible to divert air and sea assets to Java, Solomons, Marshalls much quicker.

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/4/2010 10:36:48 PM

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Burma is a big concern in AE - if India is off the agenda, there are enough forces to start pushing Japan back from mid 42.

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/5/2010 12:31:38 AM

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Good, it is nice to see this ambition.

Frankly, if you go into Oz you should go in with a view to crushing it entirely and simplifying your war into just two fronts -
1. Pacific vs USA
2. Western ( Java and Oz ) facing the British in India and the US ability to send troops and the USN through the Atlantic and into Capetown etc.

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/5/2010 12:42:09 AM

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PzB, Are you playing scen 1 or 2?

With two campaigns going as the Allies, I actually have come to think that they have made the Allies much weaker in 1942 than in WITP. What is your take on this?

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/5/2010 7:50:44 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB

Please don't tell me that it's possible to "zoom" off the maps edge....

a good thought...

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/5/2010 12:46:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: Monter_Trismegistos
Booooring! In AE everybody are attacking Northern Australia.

Why hasn't you just told me to shut up, because you have a such daring plan? :)
Now I'm ashamed I doubted you. Actually I might even think you are overdoing it! :P

BTW. What is the line, which triggers additional Australian militia?

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/5/2010 10:04:07 PM

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Monter, if PzB goes south of Brisbane the Aussie reserves are called up. Defining "south" is challenging in AE, but my understanding is that Perth won't trigger them but the SE Australia campaign he's outlined would.

If PzB pulls this off (and I think he just might) we will build a JFB statue in his honor.

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/5/2010 11:32:11 PM

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Ah, finally weekend; tired as a log despite not having kids yet.
- AE is much to blame since I always stay up 1 hour to long to do just another turn!

Burma is a threatened sector indeed; need to work hard to reinforce it.
Can anyone give me an estimate of what AV Andy could be expected to bring?
- If we have 2000 AV in place for defence he will have to bring 3-4000 to get somewhere.
If he wants to invade by sea he need more than the British flat tops for support.

Well, if I first invade Australia why don't give it all my best!

Maybe all of it is to ambitious but I'll be opportunistic and do my best while trying to avoid the big disasters.
Andy doesn't have much of a reference on how to defend Oz and I like that - all new dice.

This is scen 2; so Japan got an extra army. No idea if Allies are weaker, have to ask Andy or someone more familiar with the Allied battle roster. If they are able to attack in Burma in mid 42 weaker wouldn't be the first thought that came to mind though

Hehe, a few surprises along the way only spice things up Monter!-)

If I fail you can build an AFB statue of Andy instead and place a small moron statue next to hi...

6 days until Yamato is ready - not using battleships much at this stage; to fuel hungy and they hit $hit...
Considering to put half the battle wagons at Truk and the rest in Singapore as a reserve together with some escort carriers.
- The Mini KB must support the KB in the task of isolating SE Oz.

Our heavy cruisers will be our main striking force backed up by the 4 Kongo's escorting the KB.

The Australian Army Group is composed of:

The Geraldton invasion force

65th Brigade
20th Inf regiment
2 tank regiments
1 engineer regiment
1 arty unit
Div base forces and support units.

The 16th Army spread out between Alice Springs and Bowen

2 full divisions
9 inf regiments
13 tank units
2 assault engineer units
A dozen arty units
Numerous garrison and support units

The 25th Army currently at sea:

4 full divisions
3 inf regiments
2 tank units
3 assault engineer units
Numerous arty and support units

The plan is that 6 tank units and 1 inf regiment will link up with these troops from Alice Springs.

Reserves: 2 infantry regiments at Rabaul.

Totals:
6 divisions
1 brigade
12 regiments (+2)
17 tank units
6 assault engineer units
+ Arty, garrisons and support units

I'm planning to place the amphibious brigade at Tulagi / Lunga while 3 regiments are kept in the Marshalls together
with the bulk of naval garrisons and SNLF units.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 10, 42

Sub Attacks

Hm, an AKL is an acceptable target if you ask me...I-124 better not RTB with torps in the tubes!-)

Submarine attack near Sydney at 91,168

Japanese Ships
SS I-124

Allied Ships
xAKL Wawa

xAKL Wawa is sighted by SS I-124
Captain of SS I-124 elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
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Ground Combat

Bown was also abandoned!

Ground combat at Bowen (93,147)
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1025 troops, 4 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 89
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 38
Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 38 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Bowen !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:

Assaulting units:
22nd Recon Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/6/2010 1:02:24 AM

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Upgraded to the full patch; it immediately helped and we got some good results today

- Almost 20 enemy ships sunk.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 11, 42

Surface Combat

Dispatched a surface group to Perth after numerous enemy ship sightings.
Delibaretely took the chance to ignore enemy LBA since our surface raider wasn't spotted or attacked.
- We performed a clean sweep, but the Furutaka took a torpedo; not critical but 42 sys damage and some 18 flood. RTB.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Perth at 49,147, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Furutaka, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CL Kinu
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Shigure
DD Murasame
DD Harusame

Allied Ships
DD Stewart, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
APD Rathburne, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AVD Childs, Shell hits 21, and is sunk
AM Latrobe, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
AM Whyalla, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
AM Wollongong, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PC Zeeman, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
AM Chevreuil, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Reduced sighting due to 14% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 14% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
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Landing troops at Xmas Island

Pre-Invasion action off Christmas Island
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro
DD Kyukaze
DD Fubuki
DD Usugumo

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

CA Haguro firing at Christmas USN CPNAB
DD Kyukaze firing at Christmas USN CPNAB
DD Fubuki firing at Christmas USN CPNAB
DD Fubuki firing at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards
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Amphibious Assault at Christmas Island

TF 73 troops unloading over beach at Christmas Island, 174,141

Japanese ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 15 (0 destroyed, 15 disabled)
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The fast transport to Xmas Island met 2 enemy destroyers; both damaged.
No decisive hits.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Christmas Island at 174,141, Range 22,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro
DD Fubuki
DD Usugumo
DD Isonami
DD Kyukaze

Allied Ships
DD Perkins, heavy damage
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Christmas Island at 174,141, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro
DD Fubuki
DD Usugumo
DD Isonami
DD Kyukaze

Allied Ships
DD Cushing
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Air Combat

This was a bonus; the enemy ships near Perth were RTB and the KB caught em!

Ca 11 ships sunk or damaged today; more to come tomorrow I hope.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Perth at 36,145

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
B5N2 Kate x 21
D3A1 Val x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Santa Maria, Bomb hits 4, on fire
xAP Klipfontein
xAP Marella, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Santa Barbara, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AM Castlemaine
AP President Monroe, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
AM Benalla
xAKL Pulganbar, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Perth at 36,147

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
B5N2 Kate x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Robert Luckenbach, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Fultala, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Perth at 36,145

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AP President Monroe, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Santa Barbara, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AM Benalla, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Santa Maria, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Perth at 36,145

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Santa Maria, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Klipfontein, Torpedo hits 1
AM Castlemaine
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Perth at 36,147

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
B5N2 Kate x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Edward Luckenbach, Bomb hits 17, and is sunk
xAK Steel Traveler, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
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Ground Combat

Landed a detachment at Xmas Island; may need some more!
Let's rest and bring in some supplies.

Ground combat at Christmas Island (174,141)
Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 563 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 20
Defending force 790 troops, 2 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 6

Japanese adjusted assault: 6
Allied adjusted defense: 14
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
31st Infantry Rgt /6

Defending units:
Christmas USN CPNAB
E Det USN Port Svc
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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/6/2010 3:02:25 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 12, 42

Surface Combat

Tried to dispatch of the damaged and out of ammo? enemy destroyers at Xmas Island.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Christmas Island at 174,140, Range 17,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Usugumo
DD Isonami

Allied Ships
DD Cushing, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
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Air Combat

Continuing to sweep the P-40s as Alice Springs with Oscars and Zeros.
Can't get more than a 1-1 odds and that surprises me...

Morning Air attack on Alice Springs , at 74,143

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
P-400 Airacobra x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
20th PS (P) with P-400 Airacobra (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 7 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Alice Springs , at 74,143
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8

Allied aircraft
P-400 Airacobra x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 22000 feet *

CAP engaged:
20th PS (P) with P-400 Airacobra (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 3 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Alice Springs , at 74,143

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
P-400 Airacobra x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
20th PS (P) with P-400 Airacobra (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
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The KB finish of most of the enemy merchants west of Perth

That's another 15 ships; notice that we use bombs and not torpedoes - not need to spend limited merchandise
on sitting duck targets.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Perth at 34,144

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
B5N2 Kate x 31
D3A1 Val x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged
D3A1 Val: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Wing Sang, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Ping Wo, Bomb hits 8, and is sunk
xAK Islami, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk
xAK Mundra, Bomb hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Taiyuan, Bomb hits 13, and is sunk
xAK Gogra, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Busselton at 35,149

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
B5N2 Kate x 38
D3A1 Val x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged
D3A1 Val: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK City of Canterbury, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAK Forafric, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
xAK City of Manchester, Bomb hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Elout, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk
xAK Derrymore, Bomb hits 8, and is sunk
xAK City of Pretoria, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Troilus, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
xAKL Buijskes, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Perth at 32,145

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 13
D3A1 Val x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Klipfontein, Bomb hits 13, and is sunk
AM Castlemaine, Bomb hits 8, and is sunk
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Perth at 34,144

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Mundra, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
xAK Haresfield, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
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Convoy Massacre!

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/6/2010 3:05:55 PM

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Combing the oceans

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/6/2010 3:07:42 PM

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Hm, I thought the AV's no longer flew their floatplanes in open ocean?

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/6/2010 3:09:32 PM

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Ok this is what will happpen next!

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/6/2010 3:10:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: String

Hm, I thought the AV's no longer flew their floatplanes in open ocean?

Who told you that?

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/6/2010 3:21:04 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: String

Hm, I thought the AV's no longer flew their floatplanes in open ocean?

Who told you that?

Read it somewhere in the fora that they had to be docked in port to fly them... hmm...

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/6/2010 4:10:48 PM

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I thought the change was that now the AVs could fly their planes even while disbanded in port.

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/6/2010 4:45:41 PM

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Think its only allied AV's that dont fly at sea , was like that in WitP and don't believe it's changed in AE.

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/6/2010 5:51:45 PM

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Think its only allied AV's that dont fly at sea , was like that in WitP and don't believe it's changed in AE.

But a few allied AV's have a capacity in addition to their support. I haven't gotten them to work (to transfer planes to them), but I thought that a few were supposed to be able to operate seaplanes like warships do?

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