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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/11/2011 12:14:40 AM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Mindanao

I'm convinced Mindanao will become a critical important defensive zone;
- It can intercept enemy invasions into the SRA and Luzon and act as a buffer zone.

By placing an Air Fleet HQ with range 5 in the middle of a size 9 base all the bases within the circle on the picture will receive support.
This is yet the best place to implement our mutually supporting fighter base concept, even Andy can't shut down all these bases.

I really plan to put a lot of fighters here when the time comes...for now we build, reinforce, stockpile and prepare.




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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/11/2011 11:19:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mindanao, good concept -- if Andy takes the bait.  So late in the war he must rush and he can't spend much time with the Philippines.  If he runs into heavy resistance there, he might just bypass it.

The Chink Corps is badly mauled, but as long as it is damaged squads, it isn't all that terrible.  Nemo is right, this would be a good opportunity for an counterassault.  As far as I recall the latest rule change, no shock assault will be triggered on river crossings if at least 1/3 the number of the crossing forces will already be present.  But  disabled squads don't count toward that, do they?

How are you performing long range recon missions presently?  Say from Rabaul, or the southern slot, you can reach most of the OZ West coast and down to Nomuea with the H6 and H8.  Though using these large slow engine-eating monsters for recon is a bit wasteful, I have made good experiences with them.  I usually swap out pilots (I otherwise train and use them for NAVSearch and ASW) via the reserve pools, or put the good ones in sqrn reserve, and then send them off for high-alt recon at 30%+, for a day per base.  Not sure how many of those sqrns you have at hand, and can deploy for that task, but in recon they presently might be more important than any other role now.

Unfortunately Port Blair to Columbo is 22 hexes, if I recall correctly, so Ceylon it is just out of range for them.  Yet Midway to the Hawai'ian bases should be possible, Rabaul and Tulagi would be spots to base them, as well as Koepang might give accesses to ports in northern OZ.  But how to get at Perth, Melbourne, Adelaide, and Sydney, or even Wellington and the rest of NZ?  Perhaps with a quick CS raid?

< Message edited by janh -- 9/11/2011 11:20:02 AM >

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/11/2011 4:30:32 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Luzon will also be fortified; the idea is to make Mindanao into a big PITA and force Andy to do something about it - that is if he wants to revisit the PI's.
I was expecting more Allied troops to move east from Toungoo today; another poor Chinese 1/3 Corps crossed and shock attacked. Losses were extreme - as expected.

We don't have any CS's left; they have all been converted to light carriers.
Instead I use AVs; currently 3 have been deployed for recon roles.
- Our Irving recon planes have a range of 23 hexes, the Mavis and Emily search planes can reach 29 hexes.
So we continually recon Pearl Harbour from Line Islands, Noumea and Luganville from Guadalcanal, Brisbane and Townsville from bases south in the Coral Sea, Darwin and Northern Oz from the SRA.
The only black spots as mentioned are New Zealand, Perth, Melbourne and the US West Coast. Subs with search planes and AVs will recon these areas and try to pick up activity.

Tomorrow all our units in Pegu will have moved south to the hex north of Moulmein.
This will complete our evacuation of the Rangoon region.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 09, 44

Sub Attacks

I have increased our sub activities; US west coast, Coral Sea and Indian Ocean.
In the latter we have dispatched 11 boats in a wolf pack sailing together in 2-3 TFs to try something new...

ASW attack near Port Moresby at 98,130

Japanese Ships
SS I-46, hits 5

Allied Ships
DE Austin

SS I-46 is located by DE Austin
DE Austin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Austin attacking submerged sub ....
DE Austin is out of ASW ammo
DE Austin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Austin attacking submerged sub ....
DE Austin is out of ASW ammo
DE Austin is out of ASW ammo
DE Austin is out of ASW ammo
DE Austin is out of ASW ammo
DE Austin attacking submerged sub ....
DE Austin is out of ASW ammo
DE Austin is out of ASW ammo
DE Austin is out of ASW ammo
DE Austin is out of ASW ammo
DE Austin is out of ASW ammo
DE Austin is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Port Moresby at 98,130

Japanese Ships
SS I-46, hits 5

Allied Ships
DD Napier
DD Sims

SS I-46 is sighted by escort
DD Napier attacking submerged sub ....
DD Sims fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Napier fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Chittagong at 55,41

Japanese Ships
SS I-16

Allied Ships
LCT-477
LCT-472
LCT-370
LCT-365
LCT-322
MGB No. 193

SS I-16 is sighted by escort
I-16 bottoming out ....
MGB No. 193 fails to find sub, continues to search...
MGB No. 193 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Submarine attack near Chittagong at 55,41

Japanese Ships
SS I-165

Allied Ships
LCT-178, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

LCT-178 is sighted by SS I-165
SS I-165 attacking LCT-178 on the surface
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Submarine attack near Chittagong at 55,41

Japanese Ships
SS I-170

Allied Ships
xAK Samvern, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

xAK Samvern is sighted by SS I-170
SS I-170 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Samvern
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Sub attack near Eureka at 215,68

Japanese Ships
SS I-44, hits 28, heavy damage

Allied Ships
xAK Hauraki, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
KV Nigella

SS I-44 launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Hauraki
I-44 diving deep ....
KV Nigella attacking submerged sub ....
KV Nigella fails to find sub, continues to search...
KV Nigella attacking submerged sub ....
Large oil slick appears over area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub
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Submarine attack near Chittagong at 55,41

Japanese Ships
SS I-171

Allied Ships
xAK Turing Mary, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

xAK Turing Mary is sighted by SS I-171
SS I-171 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Turing Mary
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on 26th Indian Brigade, at 55,53 (Pegu)
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 22
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 24
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 54
Ki-84a Frank x 15

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 2
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
Spitfire VIII x 3
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 2
P-39N1 Airacobra x 7
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 2
F4U-1A Corsair x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 5 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 18 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 destroyed, 30 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 destroyed by flak
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39N1 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
11 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking IV Corps RIASC Base Force ...
Also attacking 5th Indian Division ...
Also attacking IV Indian Corps ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking IV Corps RIASC Base Force ...
Also attacking 5th Indian Division ...
Also attacking IV Indian Corps ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking IV Corps RIASC Base Force ...
Also attacking 5th Indian Division ...
Also attacking IV Indian Corps ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking IV Corps RIASC Base Force ...
Also attacking 5th Indian Division ...
Also attacking IV Indian Corps ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking IV Corps RIASC Base Force ...
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Morning Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 142 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 48 minutes

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 1
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
B-17E Fortress x 20
B-17F Fortress x 11
B-24J Liberator x 48
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 5
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 36

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 5 damaged


Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 78
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Morning Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 137 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 47 minutes

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
Spitfire VIII x 1
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
B-24J Liberator x 12
P-39N1 Airacobra x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 5
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 20

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 5 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 26
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Morning Air attack on 11th Division, at 55,53 (Pegu)
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 5
Beaufighter TF.X x 3
Hurricane IId Trop x 3
Hurricane FR.IIb x 8
Hurricane IV x 11
Spitfire VIII x 1
Boomerang C-12 x 3
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
P-39N1 Airacobra x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 4

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter VIc: 5 damaged
Beaufighter TF.X: 2 damaged
Hurricane IId Trop: 2 damaged
Hurricane IId Trop: 1 destroyed by flak
Hurricane FR.IIb: 5 damaged
Hurricane FR.IIb: 1 destroyed by flak
Hurricane IV: 9 damaged
Hurricane IV: 1 destroyed by flak
Boomerang C-12: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Tank Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Tank/B Division ...
Also attacking 1st Provisional Base Force ...
Also attacking 28th Army ...
Also attacking 11th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Tank Division ...
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Afternoon Air attack on 21st Division, at 57,51 , near Toungoo
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 84
B-25G Mitchell x 7
B-25H Mitchell x 11

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 3 damaged
B-25G Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
185 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Also attacking 33rd Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 37th Division ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 7th Ind.Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 37th Division ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 7th Ind.Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 37th Division ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 7th Ind.Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 37th Division ...
Also attacking 7th Ind.Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
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Ground Combat

Poor Chinks, that must have been on gun point! Squads were destroyed today, not only damaged.

Ground combat at 57,51 (near Toungoo)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 4640 troops, 60 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 248
Defending force 52343 troops, 607 guns, 575 vehicles, Assault Value = 1754

Allied adjusted assault: 0
Japanese adjusted defense: 5032

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
5524 casualties reported
Squads: 183 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 130 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 8 disabled

Assaulting units:
5th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese/C Corps
56th Heavy AA Regiment

Defending units:
33rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
9th Tank Regiment
38th Division
21st Division
37th Division
5th South Seas Det.
6th Guards Division
18th Army
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Field Artillery Regiment
43rd Const Co
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
21st Fld AA Gun Co
50th Field AA Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
70th Field AA Battalion
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Intel gathering

Enemy units are spreading out from Port Moresby; we have 3-4 forts in all bases with garrisons.
Let's delay them as long as possible.

Some activity along the US West Coast; especially interested in ships going north.




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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/11/2011 7:42:54 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Today we showed Andy that Rangoon is going to be vulnerable; the largest combined sweep so far in the war cleared the skies over Rangoon for our (inefficient) bombers.
If Japan had 4Es we would have won this war easily....

We also counterattacked the poor Chinese (according to Andy moved against our troops by mistake)and sent the sorry remnants back over the river in shreds!
Our army in Pego has moved south and all our supply problems have been solved

With 4000 AV in Moulmein it will be difficult for Andy to weaken his Pegu - Rangoon garrisons.
A large strategic reserve will now be established at Singapore.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 10, 44

Sub Attacks

ASW attack near Chittagong at 55,41

Japanese Ships
SS I-16, hits 7, heavy damage

Allied Ships
PT-493
LCT-477
LCT-472
LCT-370
LCT-365
LCT-322
MGB No. 193

SS I-16 is sighted by escort
MGB No. 193 fails to find sub, continues to search...
MGB No. 193 fails to find sub, continues to search...
MGB No. 193 attacking submerged sub ....
MGB No. 193 fails to find sub, continues to search...
MGB No. 193 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Sub attack near Chittagong at 55,41

Japanese Ships
SS I-168

Allied Ships
xAK Samois, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

SS I-168 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Samois
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Submarine attack near Chittagong at 55,41

Japanese Ships
SS I-175

Allied Ships
xAP Daisy Moller, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

xAP Daisy Moller is sighted by SS I-175
SS I-175 attacking xAP Daisy Moller on the surface
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 207 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 62 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 41
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 16
Ki-84a Frank x 138

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2
Spitfire VIII x 5
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2
P-39D Airacobra x 3
P-39N1 Airacobra x 19
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 20
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 7


Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed
Spitfire VIII: 2 destroyed
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-39N1 Airacobra: 5 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
13 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
16 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
15 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
26 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
18 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
7 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 9000 feet
14 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 9000 feet
12 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 9000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 165 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 49 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 14
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 14
Ki-84a Frank x 28

Allied aircraft
P-39N1 Airacobra x 1
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 5
F4U-1A Corsair x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39N1 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
13 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 9000 feet *
3 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
9 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 9000 feet
13 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 9000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 125 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 23
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 13
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 22
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 50
Ki-84a Frank x 24

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 12 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 20 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed on ground
Lysander II: 1 destroyed on ground
Vengeance I: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 64
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 13
Ki-84a Frank x 53

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 9000 feet *
29 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
10 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 9000 feet
13 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 9000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 13
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 3
Ki-84a Frank x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged

Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 9000 feet *
3 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
10 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 9000 feet
13 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 9000 feet
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at 57,51 (near Toungoo)
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 49741 troops, 559 guns, 511 vehicles, Assault Value = 1764
Defending force 9244 troops, 285 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 56

Japanese adjusted assault: 914
Allied adjusted defense: 22

Japanese assault odds: 41 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
221 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 14 (4 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
3342 casualties reported
Squads: 167 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 194 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 23 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 35 (19 destroyed, 16 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
33rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
5th South Seas Det.
9th Tank Regiment
37th Division
21st Division
38th Division
6th Guards Division
43rd Const Co
18th Army
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
21st Fld AA Gun Co
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
50th Field AA Battalion
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
1st Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
70th Field AA Battalion

Defending units:
5th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese/C Corps
56th Heavy AA Regiment
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Burma





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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/11/2011 9:22:55 PM   
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so, Rangoon AF is already operational? (according to few enemy ac destroyed on the ground)

if not, gather all available ac and continue with attacks like this one . And prepare Navy - i see some enemy ships on pics attached.... you can suprise Andy while he is commited to Rangoon defense, i guess


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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/11/2011 10:45:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB
With our blocking units in blace near Kathia and Ramree Island it should be difficult to build supplies at Rangoon efficiently.
So perhaps you're right Pax; we may still make something out of Burma.

We have ~8 divisions of fresh troops in Indo China and Malaya to support our troops in the front.
With KB at full strength an amph invasion isn't very tempting for Andy I guess. We received the CVL Nisshin yesterday, 28 knots and 30 ac.

Singapore can be large repair yard at frontline, but it can not be operated under enemy air presence, because every repairing ship will be sunk. I think this whole operation had just Rangoon as target, and getting air superiority.
So now, considering types of ships at Ramree, and number of Divisions in Burma, I would say it will be landing, but NOT in Malaya, but at Sumatra, to level Palembang, and cut half of oil deliveries. Allies can easily throw there 5 Burma Divisions, and still keep Burma in balance.

I would like also to point this thing:
quote:

Ground combat at 57,51 (near Toungoo)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 4640 troops, 60 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 248
Defending force 52343 troops, 607 guns, 575 vehicles, Assault Value = 1754

Allied adjusted assault: 0
Japanese adjusted defense: 5032

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), supply(-)

And, as I have mentioned earlier, watch out on Kuriles. Have bases in Aleutians upgraded recently?

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/11/2011 11:06:24 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Hi Kresimir, good to see you here!
- Problem is that Allied AA guns are stronger than Jap medium bombers...
I simply don't have enough medium bombers to suppress Rangoon in the long run and the port is to small for large warships, so bombarding with DDs and CLs is out of the question.
Only minesweepers and MTBs there for now.

Take a look at how the Allied 4Es obliterated Milne Bay with a 1000 hits today.

Yes, Allies are low on supplies and it would have been problematic for Andy if we had stayed and fought..but the danger of being cut of or staying in clear hex ruled that out.
Checked bases around Anchorage last turn, very little activity but I will be sending more assets there to actively scout the region.

Sumatra has been prepared; the question is how to deploy our 8-10 reserve divisions for Malay, Burma, Indo-China, Sumatra and the SRA.
Currently I have placed a division at Rahaeng, a large brigade in Bangkok and Saigon, a division of troops at Tavoy and the base south of it.
1 division is at Victoria Point, another in the hex to the right of Victoria Point. 2 divisions are at Singapore (planning to move one to Medan as Sumatra reserve).
1,5 divisions are currently shipping into Malaya.

To have any effect we need to be able to ship 3-5 divisions for a quick counterattack.
- Still, Andy probably need to prepare his divisions for new targets and as mentioned already, he can't reduce his Burma armies too much since he's facing ~7000 AV of Jap troops in that region.

I've added a terrain overview today; had hoped that forest would provide better defensive value than jungle, but it's the same.
Andy will almost certainly launch his next attacks at targets without rough terrain.

What I'm mulling about is whether the hex north of Moulmein is the ideal place for our main army and what kind of unmodified AV should we place here?
The army east of Toungoo is ordered to march to Chiang Mai; this will take a month or so but that's ok - we can cancell the move if we decide we want to stay.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 11, 44

Sub Attacks

ASW attack near Chittagong at 55,41

Japanese Ships
SS I-19, hits 14, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Sproston

SS I-19 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Sproston
DD Sproston fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sproston attacking submerged sub ....
DD Sproston attacking submerged sub ....
DD Sproston cannot reach attack position over SS I-19
DD Sproston fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sproston fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 14

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2
P-39D Airacobra x 3
F4U-1 Corsair x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 192 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 57 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 35
Ki-84a Frank x 20

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 1
F4U-1 Corsair x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
22 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
16 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 50 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 47
P-38J Lightning x 5

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 390

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 6

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 51

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 87
B-24J Liberator x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
MTB G-545, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SSX Ha-33, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 26
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 517
Port hits 9
Port supply hits 5
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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 103 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-24J Liberator x 14

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 141

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Umboi Island at 100,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 15

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 12
P-39D Airacobra x 5
P-39N1 Airacobra x 9
P-40N5 Warhawk x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-39N1 Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 30000 feet
6 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 30000 feet
1 x P-39N1 Airacobra sweeping at 30000 feet *
1 x P-39D Airacobra sweeping at 30000 feet
2 x P-40N5 Warhawk sweeping at 10000 feet
2 x P-40N5 Warhawk sweeping at 30000 feet
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Umboi Island at 100,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-5 Dauntless x 29

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
LB-502, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Honan Maru, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
LB-514
LB-132, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-133
LB-510
LB-503, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LB-127, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
11 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
7 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

LB-502 dead in the water ...
LB-514 dead in the water ...
LB-132 dead in the water ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Honan Maru
LB-133 dead in the water ...
LB-510 dead in the water ...
LB-503 dead in the water ...
LB-127 dead in the water ...
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Afternoon Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 58 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 8
B-17F Fortress x 13
P-40K Warhawk x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57-II Topsy: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 27
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 100

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 127 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 10
P-40N5 Warhawk x 19

No Japanese losses
No Allied losses

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at 54,49 (near Ramree Island)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1697 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 112
Defending force 606 troops, 0 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value = 47

Allied adjusted assault: 101
Japanese adjusted defense: 22

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 42 (20 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
3rd Commando Brigade

Defending units:
4th Tank Regiment
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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/11/2011 11:35:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB
Take a look at how the Allied 4Es obliterated Milne Bay with a 1000 hits today.

According to rules Milne Bay is exactly OUT of supply range from PM (5 hexex x 20 points), so you can expect landing there any moment. I hope you have some ships in the area.

quote:

Sumatra has been prepared; the question is how to deploy our 8-10 reserve divisions for Malay, Burma, Indo-China, Sumatra and the SRA.

Allies will strike, where you are weak, so you should put mobile reserve somewhere, where they can reach any part of possible attacks. Also, you should make sure, that there will be no possibility of cutting of forces, because giving bases with forts build is total waste.
quote:


- Still, Andy probably need to prepare his divisions for new targets and as mentioned already, he can't reduce his Burma armies too much since he's facing ~7000 AV of Jap troops in that region.

The only worthy target in Burma was Rangoon, so if not all Divisions were planning for it, they can already be prepared for another step (whatever is the name of this island on the west).

quote:

What I'm mulling about is whether the hex north of Moulmein is the ideal place for our main army and what kind of unmodified AV should we place here?

Yup, base is hardly a right target for defense, because 4E will destroy all supply in one day. You should think about sending some forces north, to deal with Chinese east of Mandalay. They should be short on AT, so Tank Division can be good.
I am actually do not expect serious attempt against Moulmein. Maybe if Andy can afford to send bombarding TF, but attack E, or NE is more possible, to cut of your remaining forces in north.

quote:

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-39N1 Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Interesting, that new P40N5 are destroyed in Combat Report, but there is none in the summary.

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/12/2011 6:21:51 AM   
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Not familiar with ground movement in Allied edition, but can Andy block your force in hex north of Moulmein if he:

a) move his troops to hex north of Moulmein
b) commit amphibious assault on Moulmein?

But i do agree with Inquisitor, you dont have to worry about further steamroller campaign in Burma. In fact that would be best option for you (trading land for time). I already mentioned how you can make a clear profit from Andy's overland campaign if he choose this option.

However, as far as i know him, he will try something else. In game against me he landed at VP IIRC and then in southern Malaya (where i managed to drove him into sea), and then in Sumatra. Anyway, as long as you keep Imperial Navy in this area you will be able to counter those amphibious operations.

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/12/2011 11:17:32 AM   
janh

 

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Status: offline 		Probably right -- if within the next days Andy doesn't make a serious show of force north of Moulmein, he might just be satisfied with cleaning the rear and resting while detaching healthy units for other duties until monsoon is over.  If I were him, my next targets would be Port Blair, followed by a landing at Victoria point, and depending on whether that would go well, either a transfer of the Burma Army to that point an driving E-NE to cut of Moulmein, or alternatively pushing from the latter south. 

Any move against PB or VP, if it is to come before Rangoon's port is fixed, will likely come from NE India or Ceylon. With far away jump-off bases, there will be little warning where his next amphib OP will hit.  The best defense is what you have been doing all along -- placing holding forces at strongpoint and reinforce on need with a reaction force.  My suggestion would be holding this force ready at Singapore, with all the AP and AK at hand that are necessary.  Perhaps I'd even occasionally perform "loading exercises", which might show on Andy's Intel and confuse him a little. 
I'd even gamble at this point and reduce the force at Moulmein, Tavoy and Victoria Point at the risk of weakening front and flanks to send a few additional Divs to form a bigger reaction force.  If Andy lands at VP, with KB cover or simply by RR you probably can still bring the reaction force to bear quick enough to throw him back.  The catch is, if KB is busy here, a quick exploit from Darwin into the DEI, or in CentPac might become possible for Andy unopposed.

A landing in the Malaya or the Southern Sumatra - Western Borneo - Java triangle would at this point better be sustained from Perth than from India.  Too dangerous and too far with KB intact, and Andy will only have enough CV/L/E to assist one amphibious operation at a time.  In case of the SE DEI, there are so many LBA bases that his CV support will be necessary there for a couple of days or weeks before his LBA can fully take over convoy security as well -- see Waingapoo. 
It would cause delays for anything out in NorPac or CentPac.  And surely Andy won't have tons of Marine and US Army units sitting around idle... If he doesn't commit them to island hopping in the Solomons, with or without CV support, they must soon show elsewhere between Perth and Kiska.  CV have been a no-show at PM, will therefore likely remain so for Milne bay -- under LBA cover anyway.  So where is the bulk of his AP, APA,... CV and BB?  And what would be the easiest target from NorPac to SoPac of some strategic benefit to hit first, merge the new CV fleet into a weapon, and perhaps even draw KB into an ambush?  Guadalcanal? Midway? Line Islands? Aleutians?  Guadalcanal can happen by suppression from PM, without CV. Midway and Line Islands bear greater long-term benefits than the others, and have the advantage of the safe LBA umbrella of Pearl.  Plus, with them gone, your intel would also run dry.  So I'd rather expect a blow there before anything else.

Late edits:
(1) Bummer, the railing of reinforcements from and to VP or Moulmein will of course only work of the late war map will be done it time -- there should have been a mention up there... Presently, you could only play a gamble with KB in readiness to cover the transport of a reaction force.
(2) Looking at the map again, I wouldn't land at VP. It is more vulnerable than other bases on the coast due to the close RR, and doesn't allow much better port facilities than... Mergui!?


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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/13/2011 8:23:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Milne Bay is vulnerable but also within range of a dozen Jap bases with air bases and support!
- I do hope Andy makes a lunge for it...would be a good opportunity to inflict damage.

Mobile reserves in Malaya and IndoChina is easy; same with Java. Sumatra is more rough terrained and roadnet isn't so good.
We therefore have to rely on 3 large size 9 air bases nearby Sumatra for protection until Combined Fleet and strat reserves can be moved in.

It's also a good thing if Andy spends time on capturing Port Blair; will take some effort!
The question with Moulmein is more challenging - I don't plan of fighting inside the city but north of it.
Supplies can't be destroyed in the field as easily as when the troops are camped down town....

Exactly how many troops we need around Moulmein is a difficult question. If we have too few we may be routed and that's a risk we can't take.
A minimum of 2000 AV with reserves in Moulmein is the minimum me thinks.

Think I posted the wrong combat summary, was for 11.03 instead of 12.03...

Fortunately not Pauk, it's all about hex side controll now. If Andy lands at Moulmein we will still be controlling all inland hex sides.
Andy has a dilemma, a major amph landing outside of his LBA zones will probably be too risky. He can't fight both Combined Fleet and our LBA with his navies alone.
So I think we can limit the major risk zones to areas within Allied LBA range. The only exceptions are probably Midway and Line Islands. A quick strike towards these bases after KB has been spotted somewhere far away could work...but that's also ok. Spend time and resources in the middle of nowhere

I'm planning to make Victoria Point into a choke point; very easy to move reinforcements there and it's within range of Medan, Singapore and Bangkok air bases.
Landings further to the south is way to risky, outside of Allied LBA in smack in the center of our Singapore region. Medan is well protected and a hub in its own.

I remember having lost many KB carriers in 1943-44 raids in previous games. While I'm still eager to use them for raids and counterstrikes it's even more important to keep the fleet intact for the next major encounter with the rebuilt Allied fleets. We get another 3 fleet carriers by July 44, this will boost our CV airstrength to 1450.

We're planning to upgrade to a new beta patch, which one would you recommend using?
There will also be a break in the game soon, more RL events coming up.

PS! Forgot to add a comment about the industry production screen further up.
I have 10 factories in the Home Islands were I wish to expand industry but it requires 20k supplies to do so.
Since only main bases have 20k supplies there are many smaller bases with industry that can't be expanded unless I use the draw supply feature.
- Using draw supplies for more than one base efficiently makes sure that no other base in the Home Islands have 20k+ supplies anymore.
Tokyo actually goes in supply shortage then.

So Home Island industry is currently limited to expanding in more than a few bases at a time.
Not good so let me know if you know how to work around this....

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/13/2011 2:40:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB

PS! Forgot to add a comment about the industry production screen further up.
I have 10 factories in the Home Islands were I wish to expand industry but it requires 20k supplies to do so.
Since only main bases have 20k supplies there are many smaller bases with industry that can't be expanded unless I use the draw supply feature.
- Using draw supplies for more than one base efficiently makes sure that no other base in the Home Islands have 20k+ supplies anymore.
Tokyo actually goes in supply shortage then.

So Home Island industry is currently limited to expanding in more than a few bases at a time.
Not good so let me know if you know how to work around this....

What version are you using? ... don't see this using the latest patch ... and haven't seen this for a long time ...

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/14/2011 7:54:20 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		It's not the last beta patch Pax, we haven't updated for quite some time.
Seems like we update to 1108q3 already from next turn.

Supply reserves are down to 2.6 million; getting increasingly concerned; fuel and oil isn't a problem but supplies are shrinking way to fast.
Need help here guys; how to reduce supply waste most efficiently?

Problem is that I can dump supplies into Burma theater and it all just dissappeares in no time.

Here is a double update; last until late next week.
We can now bomb and hit Rangoon at will.
Allied heavies pound Milne Bay to dust; B-24s score 70% hit ratios constantly.
While 75 of our bombers score 86 hits from 15k feet against light AA and light clouds 10 Libs can do the same..

I have increased our intel gathering activities and today I post some of the results:
A single destroyer sails into Darwin - hunted a convoy our LBA attacked (and missed).
Didn't see a strong escort; several transports /APA's and an AVD torched or sunk.

- Slight activity in Darwin and northern Oz in general.

- Same at Perth, little or no activity and almost no ground units reported.

- Pearl Harbour is quite busy, but that's more of a norm so hard to make anything out of those sighting.

- Townsville is rather busy, lots of ac and ships but no major enemy assets spotted neither there or at Noumea.

- Today we got more interesting intel from Ceylon; a sub was spotted and attacked (and finally sunk) by a British destroyer acting as escort for a battleship and a battlecruiser.
This shows that Andy got intentions in the Indian Ocean.

My bet would be that Port Blair is going to feel the fire soon.
Possible that Andy will hit Sumatra as well while a diversion is staged at Milne Bay or Line Islands / Midway.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 12, 44

Sub Attacks

ASW attack near Rangoon at 54,53
Japanese Ships
SS RO-64, hits 19

Allied Ships
AM Carnatic

SS RO-64 is sighted by escort
RO-64 bottoming out ....
AM Carnatic fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Carnatic attacking submerged sub ....
AM Carnatic attacking submerged sub ....
AM Carnatic fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Carnatic fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Submarine attack near Akyab at 54,45

Japanese Ships
SS I-168

Allied Ships
LCVP 593K, Shell hits 2, heavy damage

LCVP 593K is sighted by SS I-168
SS I-168 attacking LCVP 593K on the surface
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Submarine attack near Akyab at 54,45

Japanese Ships
SS I-168

Allied Ships
LCVP 593L, Shell hits 1, heavy damage

LCVP 593L is sighted by SS I-168
SS I-168 attacking LCVP 593L on the surface
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 97 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 64
P-38J Lightning x 5

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 39
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 432

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 144 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 49 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 51
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 221
Port hits 8
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Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 56,54 , near Moulmein
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 155 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 43 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 14
P-40K Warhawk x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 13 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
101 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 21st Army ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
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Afternoon Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 139 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 43 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 23
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 16
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 22
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 58
Ki-84a Frank x 35

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 4 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F-5A Lightning: 2 destroyed on ground
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed on ground
Lysander II: 2 destroyed on ground
P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed on ground
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
P-70 Havoc: 1 destroyed on ground
Vengeance I: 1 destroyed on ground
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 65

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
30 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 15000 feet
6 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 15000 feet *

CAP engaged:
No.152 Sqn RAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at 61,46 (near Lashio)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2855 troops, 38 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 123
Defending force 360 troops, 26 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 57
Japanese adjusted defense: 10

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
39th Indian/A Division

Defending units:
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 13, 44

Sub Attacks

ASW attack near Trivandrum at 27,44

Japanese Ships
SS I-162, hits 7

Allied Ships
DD Quilliam

SS I-162 is sighted by escort
I-162 bottoming out ....
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Quilliam attacking submerged sub ....
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Trivandrum at 27,44

Japanese Ships
SS I-162, hits 5, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Quilliam

SS I-162 is sighted by escort
I-162 bottoming out ....
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Quilliam attacking submerged sub ....
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Submarine attack near Trivandrum at 27,44

Japanese Ships
SS I-162, hits 25, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Quilliam
DD Quality
BB Queen Elizabeth
BC Renown

SS I-162 launches 4 torpedoes at DD Quilliam
I-162 bottoming out ....
DD Quilliam attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-162 forced to surface!
DD Quilliam firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Quality firing on surfaced sub ....
BB Queen Elizabeth firing on surfaced sub ....
BC Renown firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Quilliam firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Quality firing on surfaced sub ....
BB Queen Elizabeth firing on surfaced sub ....
BC Renown firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Quality firing on surfaced sub ....
BB Queen Elizabeth firing on surfaced sub ....
BC Renown firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves
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Surface Combat


Night Time Surface Combat, near Darwin at 76,124, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze

Allied Ships
APA Pierce, Shell hits 23, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK William C. Claiborne
xAK Empire Glade, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
AVD San Pablo, Shell hits 19, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...

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TF 326 encounters mine field at Rangoon (54,53)

Allied Ships
AM Carnatic, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Darwin at 76,124, Range 3,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze

Allied Ships
xAK William C. Claiborne, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

Task forces break off...
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 21
Ki-84a Frank x 66

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
39 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 15000 feet *
21 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 15000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 165 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 56 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 54
B-24J Liberator x 25
P-38H Lightning x 2

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 267
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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 23

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 80
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Morning Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 84 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 67
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Afternoon Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 162 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 51 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 19
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 23
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 54
Ki-84a Frank x 38

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F-5A Lightning: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 89

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
23 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Surface Combat & Intel Gathering




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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/14/2011 8:55:06 PM   
witpqs


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ORIGINAL: PzB

It's not the last beta patch Pax, we haven't updated for quite some time.
Seems like we update to 1108q3 already from next turn.




There is a 1108q3a that fixes some bug that was quickly noticed in 1108q3.

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/15/2011 4:31:59 AM   
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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/15/2011 7:07:11 AM   
Rainer79

 

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Status: offline 		Where is the Southern Area Army HQ? I found that once you get supplies into Burma they'll be sucked back across the trails to Bangkok (and further on to Singapore, Saigon, etc.) if that command HQ is in a base further back. You can also see something similar if one of that bases has the supply draw feature enabled.

Regarding the global supplies, do you have any fort construction programs going on? Going from level 6 to 9 seems to cost about 100k supplies for a single base so that will quickly add up. Industry expansion/repair can of course also be a culprit.

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/15/2011 10:49:24 AM   
janh

 

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Status: offline 		Interesting Intel, and thumbs up for the DD run into Darwin.  That was bold, but very useful!  Any has lost quite a few APA by now, that must hurt?
So N and W OZ is silent, E OZ shows AC and ships, but no major warships and additional LCU?  I am curious to see the intel from Melbourne, Sydney and Adelaide, as well as New Zealand. So far looks like there is nothing big in the making between PM and Nomuea, but this can still amount to an LBA covered invasion of Milne Bay, or ops against southerm Solomons. Btw, who owns Espritu Santo? And it also suggests that DEI is safe for now.
Ceylon, well, perhaps Port Blair, but if so, when?  That question must depend on air cover, i.e. CV.  Either he has all his CV united in Indian waters, or he must make a Port Blair invasion dependent on a carrier battle in the Pacific. That leaves Midway, Line Islands, and Aleutians -- the first two of which are at least close to Pearl's air cover if something would go wrong badly.  But this is still a lot of speculation -- if you knew the rough date for anything to happen, you could sneak KB forward into the rear of Wake or Line Islands, out of Andy's recon reach, but I doubt you can really sustain the fleet there for more than 2 weeks, and likely will be detected much earlier.  The question remains: where are his carriers?

As for the supply -- all you can do is to shut down factory expansions and repairs where feasible, and reduce any port/airfield/fort expansions to a minimum throughout the Empire. Once our airframe losses drop, and LCU losses, this might also save some. Yet repairs of your bombed bases will keep eating a lot. Usually such a drop in supplies should only occur in the first 6 months of a GC, when aggressively expanding industry and the facilities at conquered bases, but not much later.  I am afraid that Andy might bring down your game by just toasting all of your supply with his 4EB, which would not be very historical and ruin an otherwise great game/AAR.  Perhaps you should discuss this with him? Maybe Andy can get some rethinking of this started with the devs?


< Message edited by janh -- 9/15/2011 10:51:01 AM >

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/17/2011 7:35:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PzB

Supply reserves are down to 2.6 million; getting increasingly concerned; fuel and oil isn't a problem but supplies are shrinking way to fast.
Need help here guys; how to reduce supply waste most efficiently?

Few months ago, you have said, that you will close down some LI factories, to conserve fuel, by not transporting that much Resources (and I have said, that you should NOT, because you will need all supply ). Have you turned them back on?

Also, it is 1944, and if you were transporting only fuel to Japan, there is already no oil at islands, so Refineries there stay idle. If you begin hauling oil now, you will get around 1000 supply per day, because there are hundreds of Refineries in Japan.

This whole destroying of supply by planes can have also benefit. Just find a base in Burma, on clear terrain, where there is at least one enemy Division, and start destroying it. Supply will be drawn every time, because LCU will need it.


quote:

Allied heavies pound Milne Bay to dust; B-24s score 70% hit ratios constantly.
While 75 of our bombers score 86 hits from 15k feet against light AA and light clouds 10 Libs can do the same..

In beta some reporting was changed. It seems hits which generated ZERO damage, are also reported, but I am guessing it should show for both sides, not only for one.
Anyway, you can probably safely use green pilots for bombers. After all their experience is needed only to hit ships, and they will train quicker by actually bombarding, than just training. Just make sure, there will be no enemy CAP there. The old WITP China training way

Also, do not be surprised in latest beta, where you will see dozens of damaged planes, during air base bombing. It was always there, just not reported.

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/17/2011 12:53:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PzB

I have increased our intel gathering activities and today I post some of the results:
A single destroyer sails into Darwin - hunted a convoy our LBA attacked (and missed).
Didn't see a strong escort; several transports /APA's and an AVD torched or sunk.



Andy seems not to care for his transports. He probably thinks that he has enough to bother. But this is not true in the AE (it wasn't even in WITP). He propably doesn't know how much supplies B-29's consume. Good for the Empire!

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/17/2011 3:08:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Im not sure Andy is careless about supplies... Have read some post of him and he knows ( or he knew) b29 spent LOT of supplies

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/25/2011 11:30:09 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Back from my little vacation east; Kiev - Dnepetrovsk - Nikopol area.
10 days of summer and cheap beers

We have updated to the latest beta patch: [1108q5]
Seems like it offers quite a lot new stuff, need to study it in detail.

First impression: seems stable and game runs smoothly.
Andy tried to hit Port Blair with B-24s at max range. Our 30 George fighters claimed 25 kills and our base was not ripped to pieces
Not sure how much this is because of the patch, but we can always hope....

Andy knows his logistics, don't think he'll run out of fuel or supply anytime soon.

I followed your advice Inq, all LI factories remained turned on!
Souther Area HQ is at Singer; could move it to Bangkok but Singapore is also a hub were I need a steady supply source.

Intel seems more...generous now; more detailed info about enemy units in places like Ceylon, Brisbane, Noumea, PH and Townsville.
Will continue to monitor the reports, maybe the patch has adjusted this as well.

The ML vessels with torpedoes can still not be moved to pools or converted to other than ML - with DC.
The ability to finally halt ALL vessels construction based on type was a godsend; no more AK-Ls are being produced

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 14, 44

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 132 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 20
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 16
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 22
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 54
Ki-84a Frank x 38

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 4 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 13 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F-5A Lightning: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 9th Division, at 56,54 , near Moulmein
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane FR.IIb x 9
Hurricane IV x 11
Boomerang C-12 x 5

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane FR.IIb: 5 damaged
Hurricane FR.IIb: 1 destroyed by flak
Hurricane IV: 6 damaged
Hurricane IV: 1 destroyed by flak
Boomerang C-12: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hurricane FR.IIb bombing from 7000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
11 x Hurricane IV bombing from 7000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
5 x Boomerang C-12 bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 3rd Tank Division ...
Also attacking 1st Provisional Base Force ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 11th Division ...
Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Tank Division ...
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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 68 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 32

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 3
B-24D1 Liberator x 28
B-24J Liberator x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
H8K2 Emily: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 destroyed, 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-601 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 22 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes

Nomura M. in a N1K1-J George makes head on attack ... forces B-24D1 Liberator out of formation
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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 62 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 23

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-601 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
19 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 22470.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 78 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 14

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 7
B-24D1 Liberator x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-601 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 8

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-601 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 5

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-601 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
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Morning Air attack on 16th Infantry Regiment, at 60,48 , near Taung Gyi
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-20G Havoc x 77
B-26B Marauder x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-601 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 54 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-601 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Japanese losses
No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-601 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
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Air attack on Port Blair; enemy takes heavy losses





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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/27/2011 2:47:18 PM   
PzB74


Posts: 5076
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From: No(r)way
Status: offline 		In general ground casualties seems lower now.
We set a CAP trap over our army south of Pegu, the kill list became long as Andy didn't sweep.

Testing enemy strength at PM and lost a few light cargo ships.
There are now night fighters, search planes, CAP fighters, escorts, medium bombers and naval bombers at PM.
Interesting...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 15, 44

Air Combat

Lots of nightfightes on CAP over PM, we've made an impression!
Not so impressed about game functionality that sends our naval bombers after PT boats...
Thought that bug was fixed?

Night Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 141 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 52 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 18

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 11
P-39N1 Airacobra x 12
P-70 Havoc x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
PT-84
PT-81
PT-83

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
No.79 Sqn RAAF with Kittyhawk III (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
15th FG/6th NFS with P-70 Havoc (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
49th FG/8th FS with P-39N1 Airacobra (3 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 21
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 15
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 21
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 52
Ki-84a Frank x 38

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 5 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 15 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F-5A Lightning: 8 damaged

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cape Gloucester at 102,124
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 66 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40N5 Warhawk x 7
SBD-5 Dauntless x 14

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAKL Suzan Maru, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
xAKL Hokuan Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Hokuan Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Suzan Maru
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Morning Air attack on 9th Division, at 56,54 , near Moulmein
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 13
Ki-84a Frank x 40

Allied aircraft
Hurricane FR.IIb x 6
Hurricane IV x 5
Boomerang C-12 x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane FR.IIb: 3 destroyed
Hurricane IV: 3 destroyed
Boomerang C-12: 2 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on 9th Division, at 56,54 , near Moulmein
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 12
Ki-84a Frank x 40

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 18
Vengeance I x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 6 destroyed
Vengeance I: 7 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on 6th JNAF AF Unit , at 99,129 (Buna)
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IV x 13
Spitfire VIII x 16
PV-1 Ventura x 19
B-25D1 Mitchell x 19
B-25G Mitchell x 9
B-25H Mitchell x 6
P-38H Lightning x 2
P-38J Lightning x 11
P-39N1 Airacobra x 8
P-40N5 Warhawk x 8

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25G Mitchell: 3 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25H Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25G Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25G Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 11th JAAF Base Force /1 ...
Also attacking 16th Garrison Unit ...
Also attacking 6th Shipping Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 16th Garrison Unit ...
Also attacking 9th RF Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 16th Garrison Unit ...
Also attacking 6th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 16th Garrison Unit ...
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Morning Air attack on Buna , at 99,129
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 54
B-25D1 Mitchell x 5
P-38J Lightning x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 87
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 3
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Morning Air attack on 113th Infantry Regiment, at 59,48 (Taung Gyi)
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-20G Havoc x 70
B-26B Marauder x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cape Gloucester at 102,124
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40N5 Warhawk x 7
SBD-5 Dauntless x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
E Wakatake, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Hokuan Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 4000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
5 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Hokuan Maru dead in the water ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Hokuan Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring E Wakatake
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Cap Trap

OPERATIONAL REPORT FOR Mar 15, 44

Today's confirmed kills

PO1 Endo M. of 281 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 3
PO1 Endo D. of 281 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 2
1LT Mitsumasa A. of 64th Sentai is credited with kill number 9
1LT Inoue D. of 64th Sentai is credited with kill number 12
WO Nomura, A. of 77th Sentai is credited with kill number 4
2LT Chojiro R. of 77th Sentai is credited with kill number 2
WO Emura R. of 77th Sentai is credited with kill number 5
WO Emura R. of 77th Sentai attains ace status!!
CPO Kamisaka H. of S-301 Hikotai is credited with kill number 2
CPO Kamisaka H. of S-301 Hikotai is credited with kill number 3
CPO Matsumoto R. of S-301 Hikotai is credited with kill number 6
CPO Hirano D. of S-301 Hikotai is credited with kill number 4
PO1 Endo M. of 281 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 4
LT Mochizuki, I. of 281 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 2
MAJ Egashira D. of 32nd Sentai is credited with kill number 9
1LT Inoue O. of 11th Sentai is credited with kill number 12
WO Miyazaki N. of 11th Sentai is credited with kill number 4
WO Miyazaki N. of 11th Sentai is credited with kill number 5
WO Miyazaki N. of 11th Sentai attains ace status!!
CPT Egashira D. of 32nd Sentai is credited with kill number 2
1LT Tsukamoto T. of 11th Sentai is credited with kill number 2
CPO Matsumoto R. of S-301 Hikotai is credited with kill number 7
MGEN Anma, K. of 64th Sentai is credited with kill number 12
MAJ Yasuda, Y. of 64th Sentai is credited with kill number 12
WO Nomura, A. of 77th Sentai is credited with kill number 5
WO Nomura, A. of 77th Sentai attains ace status!!
CPT Anabuki R. of 77th Sentai is credited with kill number 8
WO Emura R. of 77th Sentai is credited with kill number 6
1LT Miyazaki J. of 77th Sentai is credited with kill number 3
CPT Bunkichi T. of 77th Sentai is credited with kill number 6
MAJ Eiichi R. of 77th Sentai is credited with kill number 8
1LT Inoue O. of 11th Sentai is credited with kill number 13






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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/28/2011 7:47:55 AM   
Remenents

 

Posts: 176
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Status: offline 		Hey PzB! I absolutely LOVE the AAR! Its like reading a new history book on the pacific war! Im only on page 40 of the AAR, but just wanted to let you know ya made a fan out of me lol!

I have been trying to send you a personal mail, but for some reason it wont let me, not sure why :( Anyway, will try to get this fixed because I have a question I want to ask ya :)

Anyway, keep up the awesome AAR!

Adam

P.S. Ok, I managed to fix it. I had to add you to buddy before I could send a message, hope you dont mind. :)

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/28/2011 12:37:06 PM   
PzB74


Posts: 5076
Joined: 10/3/2000
From: No(r)way
Status: offline 		Welcome to the AAR thread and alternative history Adam - glad you enjoy it!
I've sent a PM back to you.

I sent 2 subs into Colombo harbour as we have sighted much activity; we found gold!
A tanker convoy unloading fuel...and it looks like escorts were disbanded in order to make room for the tankers to dock.
- We lit up 2 tankers, unfortunately dud torps let 2 others escape

There is no doubt that Andy is building up at Colombo; an invasion against Malaya - Sumatra region is likely and Port Blair is a hot candidate nr 1.
In New Guinea Buna is singled out as the next target and the Americal Div is marching towards the place which is now low on supplies.
It will take a major effort to reinforce the place; question is whether it's worth it.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 16, 44

Sub Attacks

Submarine attack near Colombo at 29,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-26

Allied Ships
TK Deroche

TK Deroche is sighted by SS I-26
SS I-26 launches 6 torpedoes at TK Deroche
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Submarine attack near Colombo at 29,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-170

Allied Ships
TK Cathwood

TK Cathwood is sighted by SS I-170
SS I-170 launches 4 torpedoes at TK Cathwood
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Submarine attack near Colombo at 29,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-26

Allied Ships
TK Athelduke, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

TK Athelduke is sighted by SS I-26
SS I-26 launches 6 torpedoes at TK Athelduke
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Submarine attack near Colombo at 29,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-170

Allied Ships
TK Miralda, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires

TK Miralda is sighted by SS I-170
SS I-170 launches 4 torpedoes at TK Miralda
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Surface Combat

Sent some PT boats into Rangoon...they met plenty of similar vessels and got locked up in multipe combat rounds.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Rangoon at 54,53, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-538
MTB G-540
MTB G-541
MTB G-10, Shell hits 1
MTB G-11, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
MTB 299, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
MTB 300
MTB 301
MTB 302
MTB 303
MTB 304
MTB 305
MTB 306

Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 1,000 yards
Range closes to 1,000 yards...
MTB G-11 engages MTB 306 at 1,000 yards
MTB G-10 engages MTB 306 at 1,000 yards
MTB G-541 engages MTB 306 at 1,000 yards
MTB 306 engages MTB G-540 at 1,000 yards
MTB G-10 engages MTB 302 at 1,000 yards
MTB G-11 engages MTB 301 at 1,000 yards
MTB G-10 engages MTB 299 at 1,000 yards
Range increases to 2,000 yards
MTB G-10 engages MTB 305 at 2,000 yards
MTB G-10 engages MTB 303 at 2,000 yards
MTB 299 engages MTB G-10 at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Rangoon at 54,53, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-538
MTB G-540
MTB G-541
MTB G-10, Shell hits 1, on fire
MTB G-11, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
MTB 300
MTB 301
MTB 302
MTB 303
MTB 304, Shell hits 1
MTB 306

Task forces break off...
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 27
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 16

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 10
P-38G Lightning x 2
P-39D Airacobra x 2
P-39N1 Airacobra x 4
P-40N5 Warhawk x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 9
F4U-1A Corsair x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 5 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on 16th Garrison Unit , at 99,129 (Buna)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-5 Dauntless x 43

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x SBD-5 Dauntless bombing from 16000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
26 x SBD-5 Dauntless bombing from 16000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 55th Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 16th Garrison Unit ...
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 39
Spitfire VIII x 6
Spitfire Vc Trop x 7
P-38G Lightning x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 6
P-39N1 Airacobra x 10
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22
F4U-1A Corsair x 5
PV-1 Ventura x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
MTB G-538

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 16th Garrison Unit , at 99,129 (Buna)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 10
Kittyhawk IV x 13
Spitfire VIII x 16
PV-1 Ventura x 19
B-25D1 Mitchell x 18
B-25G Mitchell x 6
B-25H Mitchell x 3
P-39N1 Airacobra x 2

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25G Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Also attacking 6th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 11th JAAF Base Force /1 ...
Also attacking 55th Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 16th Garrison Unit ...
Also attacking 55th Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 16th Garrison Unit ...
Also attacking 11th JAAF Base Force /1 ...
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Morning Air attack on Buna , at 99,129
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 38
B-25D1 Mitchell x 9
P-38J Lightning x 7

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 51
Port hits 1
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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 59
B-24J Liberator x 28
P-38H Lightning x 10

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 31
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 26
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 11

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
Spitfire VIII x 2
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2
A-36 Mustang x 3
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 1
P-39N1 Airacobra x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 3
F4U-1A Corsair x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-36 Mustang: 1 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/29/2011 3:04:13 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Heavy fighting in the air: we sweep Rangoon - numerous enemy fighters now in place.
Can we wrestle air superiority over Rangoon?

Allies hit Umbon island (east of Lae) with all they have: 80 fighters, 47 medium bombers and 136 heavy bombers dusted the place.
Still, we inflicted many losses on the Allied air units!


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 17, 44

Sub - ASW Attacks

As expected enemy asw vessels were in place today; still we had to try and hit the high-value tankers.
Not hits were scored and we lost 1 sub with another suffering heavy damage.

I have spotted Allied subs moving back for another round; immediate action has been ordered.
Time to try our new "special" ASW vessels...

ASW attack near Colombo at 29,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-26, hits 18, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Penn
AO Suamico
AO Tippecanoe
AO Brazos
TK British Destiny
TK Robert E Hopkins
TK L.P. St. Clair
DD Quilliam
DD Quality

SS I-26 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Penn
I-26 bottoming out ....
DD Quilliam fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Quality fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Quality attacking submerged sub ....
DD Quality attacking submerged sub ....
DD Quality cannot reach attack position over SS I-26
DD Quality cannot reach attack position over SS I-26
DD Quality is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Colombo at 29,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-170, hits 3

Allied Ships
AMc Digoel
AMc Cuttack
AMc Cochin

SS I-170 is sighted by escort
AMc Cuttack fails to find sub and abandons search
AMc Cochin attacking submerged sub ....
AMc Cochin fails to find sub, continues to search...
AMc Cochin fails to find sub, continues to search...
AMc Cochin fails to find sub, continues to search...
AMc Cochin attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Colombo at 29,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-168, hits 21, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Alden
AO Suamico
AO Brazos
TK Inge Maersk
TK Marpessa
TK Santa Maria
TK Cathwood
DD Quilliam

SS I-168 is sighted by escort
I-168 bottoming out ....
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Quilliam attacking submerged sub ....
DD Quilliam attacking submerged sub ....
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Colombo at 29,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-171, hits 6

Allied Ships
DD Alden
AO Suamico
AO Brazos
TK Inge Maersk
TK Marpessa
TK Santa Maria
TK Cathwood
DD Quilliam

SS I-171 is sighted by escort
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Quilliam attacking submerged sub ....
DD Quilliam is out of ASW ammo
DD Quilliam is out of ASW ammo
DD Quilliam attacking submerged sub ....
DD Quilliam is out of ASW ammo
DD Quilliam is out of ASW ammo
DD Quilliam is out of ASW ammo
DD Quilliam is out of ASW ammo
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Quilliam fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 18

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 32
Spitfire VIII x 3
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
Spitfire VIII x 5
A-36 Mustang x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 2
P-39N1 Airacobra x 5
P-40N5 Warhawk x 15
P-40N26 Warhawk x 7
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 19
F4U-1A Corsair x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed
A-36 Mustang: 1 destroyed
P-39N1 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40N26 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 48

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 23
Spitfire VIII x 3
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
Spitfire VIII x 5
A-36 Mustang x 2
P-39D Airacobra x 1
P-39N1 Airacobra x 2
P-40N5 Warhawk x 14
P-40N26 Warhawk x 4
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 18
F4U-1A Corsair x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
A-36 Mustang: 1 destroyed
P-39N1 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Umboi Island , at 100,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 26
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 49

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IV x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IV: 4 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Umboi Island , at 100,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 25
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 47

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 4 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 24

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 19
Spitfire VIII x 2
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2
Spitfire VIII x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 1
P-39N1 Airacobra x 1
P-40N5 Warhawk x 4
P-40N26 Warhawk x 3
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 18
F4U-1A Corsair x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Umboi Island , at 100,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 24
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 41

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 17
Kittyhawk IV x 9
Spitfire VIII x 46
Kittyhawk IV x 12
P-38H Lightning x 3
P-40N5 Warhawk x 11
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 6 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 15 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 2 destroyed
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Kittyhawk IV sweeping at 30000 feet
9 x Kittyhawk IV sweeping at 30000 feet
9 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 30000 feet
11 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 30000 feet
6 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 30000 feet
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
9 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 30000 feet
5 x Kittyhawk III sweeping at 30000 feet
9 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 30000 feet
3 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 30000 feet
4 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Umboi Island , at 100,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 2
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 23
B-25D1 Mitchell x 15
B-25G Mitchell x 6
B-25H Mitchell x 3
P-39N1 Airacobra x 17
P-40N5 Warhawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25G Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 44
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 79
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Morning Air attack on Umboi Island , at 100,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 43
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Morning Air attack on Umboi Island , at 100,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 52
B-24J Liberator x 32

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 29
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 27
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Morning Air attack on Umboi Island , at 100,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 7

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Umboi Island , at 100,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 7

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Umboi Island , at 100,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-24J Liberator x 5

No Allied losses

Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Umboi Island , at 100,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 4
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 9

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 30000 feet
4 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Umboi Island , at 100,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 12

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
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Ground Combat

Lashio is rough jungle hex; a naval guard unit can actually stall an Indian division here...

Ground combat at Lashio (62,46)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8332 troops, 104 guns, 47 vehicles, Assault Value = 354
Defending force 1458 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Allied adjusted assault: 79
Japanese adjusted defense: 229

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
101 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
39th Indian Division

Defending units:
62nd Naval Guard Unit
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Heavy Air to Air Combat




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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/29/2011 3:16:09 PM   
castor troy


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Status: offline 		Andy will never get rid of his faults... no radar at Rangoon... keep bashing him

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/29/2011 6:57:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		You're winning the airframe count sweeping Rangoon, but prolly losing the pilot war. Need to get your sweeps better coordinated ... somehow ...

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/29/2011 11:05:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PzB

Our blocking unit (tank reg) near Ramree Isl is isolated but still receives supplies.
This is the main problem, an enemy army in the open receive their supplies while armies in base hexes are starved.
Last few turns both Rangoon and Pegu went red, tank division that had full supplies the turn before suddenly had 0!!




Many AFBs bitched and whined about this over the course of the first year the game was out with no help. It is a critical problem in China with about half of all Chinese cities having this problem thus making them usless for defense. It is for this reason that I think any commited Japanese player can and should take China out of the war. I feel your pain but it is nice to see that this in not solely an Allied problem.

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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/30/2011 7:57:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		That was only a small sweep; first when Andy sent in the bulk of his fighter force did we committ.
250 fighters sweeping Rangoon today, ~140 went in coordinated.
The new air combat model still restricts air combat so while our smallers strikes suffer our big sweep fail to
take sufficient advantage of their superior numbers.

Result is that we roughly achieves a 1-1 kill ratio with 32 pilots KIA.

What do you think, is it worth a prolonged effort?

Andy knows there is a supply issue and says there's little to be done about it without re-designing the entire model.
But yes, it has been an annoyance for a looong time for me.

In Japan I'm still struggling to have enough supplies in more than 1-2 places at the same time in order to expand factories.
Some Zeke fighter bombers have been at 0/12 for 3 months now as the base is a minor one with only 500 supplies, far from enough to expand.
By using the supply pull even Tokyo gets into the red....

The only solution would be to make a change that allowed us to set the exact supply level desired for the different bases, e.g. 20000.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 18, 44

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 23

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 68
Spitfire VIII x 7
Spitfire Vc Trop x 5
Spitfire VIII x 15
A-36 Mustang x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 4
P-39N1 Airacobra x 7
P-40N5 Warhawk x 37
P-40N26 Warhawk x 10
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 55
F4U-1A Corsair x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed
P-39N1 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 128 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 59
Ki-84a Frank x 83

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 63
Spitfire VIII x 7
Spitfire Vc Trop x 5
Spitfire VIII x 15
A-36 Mustang x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 4
P-39N1 Airacobra x 4
P-40N5 Warhawk x 37
P-40N26 Warhawk x 9
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 55
F4U-1A Corsair x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 5 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-40N26 Warhawk: 3 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
22 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
16 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
18 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
21 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
29 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 27

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 53
Spitfire VIII x 7
Spitfire Vc Trop x 5
Spitfire VIII x 15
A-36 Mustang x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 4
P-39N1 Airacobra x 4
P-40N5 Warhawk x 30
P-40N26 Warhawk x 4
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 51
F4U-1A Corsair x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 3 destroyed
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
A-36 Mustang: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-39N1 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 113 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 3

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 48
Spitfire VIII x 5
Spitfire Vc Trop x 4
Spitfire VIII x 13
A-36 Mustang x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 1
P-39N1 Airacobra x 3
P-40N5 Warhawk x 26
P-40N26 Warhawk x 4
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 48
F4U-1A Corsair x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-36 Mustang: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 125 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 3

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 47
Spitfire VIII x 5
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
Spitfire VIII x 11
A-36 Mustang x 2
P-39D Airacobra x 1
P-39N1 Airacobra x 2
P-40N5 Warhawk x 25
P-40N26 Warhawk x 4
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 47
F4U-1A Corsair x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 26

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 42
Spitfire VIII x 5
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
Spitfire VIII x 10
A-36 Mustang x 2
P-39D Airacobra x 1
P-39N1 Airacobra x 2
P-40N5 Warhawk x 23
P-40N26 Warhawk x 4
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 44
F4U-1A Corsair x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 28

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 39
Spitfire VIII x 3
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
Spitfire VIII x 9
A-36 Mustang x 2
P-39D Airacobra x 1
P-39N1 Airacobra x 2
P-40N5 Warhawk x 19
P-40N26 Warhawk x 3
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 39
F4U-1A Corsair x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed
A-36 Mustang: 1 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 30000 feet
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Air Combat over Rangoon




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RE: Rangoon is abandoned! - 9/30/2011 9:39:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PzB


Result is that we roughly achieves a 1-1 kill ratio with 32 pilots KIA.

What do you think, is it worth a prolonged effort?




Nah, you should keep your pilots for .... errrrr... i dont know. The problem is, with new air to air combat model that CAP is almost useless (when we are talking about being Japs in '44) ...

anyway, i think you should strike only when you know that you can achive some success, tactical or strategical. Let Andy to act as a hammer, keep your elite airforce safe.... and use only green pilots and limited air force (outclassed planes, backed with few new generation ACs --- sooner or latter you will get your golden chance to strike with all out attack on him - all you have to do is sit and wait and wait him to become reckless and easy going - which will certainly happen if you adopt "oh boy im finished" strategy..

damn, i'm feeling ready to try this Allied Edition



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