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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/21/2009 10:36:50 PM

Andy Mac

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OK while waiting for th enext turn I have made a few decisions

The MLR in Malaya is goign to be the yellow hex.

I chose it because PZB appears to following the Temuloh axis and its deceptively slow.

11th Indian Div is now en route and concentrated 9th will follow as soon as the remnants of 8th Indian Bde get out of the trap at Kota baru.

I chose that hex for the following reasons

Good defensive ground
Not a base hex so no airbase to bomb he will have to send his air units in on groubnd attack missions and yes you guessed it my AA will be waiting.

I will concentrate 3rd HAA Regt and 1 of the HK&S HAA Regts and a LAA Regt there there giving me a mixed force of up to 48 HAA and 36 LAA Guns plus the organic guns I will turn on replacements in these formations to ensure they get the valuable arty.

That should go a long way to negating his air superiority - if my troops can dig in and concentrate I should be able to delay for a while.

Mersing will need to be garriosoned but thats a small price to pay and if it forces him to mount a naval operation so much the better its all about delay.

I will mass my best combat units there to try and delay for at least a week on this line

Andy

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/21/2009 10:37:31 PM

Andy Mac

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ps I have picked a diferent strategy v string

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/22/2009 12:02:03 AM

Andy Mac

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OK going to draw attention to a few things that happened today

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 15, 41

1stly Houston Group did get into a Japanese SCTF - PZAFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 15, 41
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TF 98 encounters mine field at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-14

18 mines cleared

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 82,82, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Urukaze, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
CA Houston, Shell hits 3
DD Scout, Shell hits 1
DD Thanet
DD Thracian

Reduced sighting due to 10% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 10% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 6,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 6,000 yards
CL Nagara launches Long Lance Torpedoes at CA Houston at 6,000 yards
DD Urukaze launches Torpedoes at CA Houston at 6,000 yards
DD Urukaze fires at DD Thanet at 6,000 yards
DD Umikaze launches Long Lance Torpedoes at DD Scout at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CA Houston at 2,000 yards
DD Thracian engages DD Umikaze at 2,000 yards
DD Scout engages DD Suzukaze at 2,000 yards
DD Suzukaze engages DD Scout at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
CA Houston engages CL Nagara at 3,000 yards
DD Thracian engages DD Urukaze at 3,000 yards
DD Suzukaze engages DD Scout at 3,000 yards
DD Umikaze engages DD Scout at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CA Houston at 6,000 yards
DD Umikaze engages DD Thracian at 6,000 yards
DD Suzukaze engages DD Thracian at 6,000 yards
DD Scout engages DD Umikaze at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CA Houston engages CL Nagara at 9,000 yards
DD Urukaze engages DD Thracian at 9,000 yards
DD Urukaze engages DD Thanet at 9,000 yards
DD Umikaze engages DD Scout at 9,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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ASW attack near Vigan at 80,73

Japanese Ships
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Inazuma
DD Ikazuchi

Allied Ships
SS S-39

SS S-39 is sighted by escort
DD Inazuma fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Ikazuchi fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Inazuma fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Inazuma fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Inazuma fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Inazuma fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Inazuma fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Legaspi at 82,82

Japanese Ships
DMS W-7
CS Mizuho
DMS W-8
AO Hayamoto
TK Matsumoto Maru
AMc Ataka Maru
xAP Takatiho Maru
xAK Shinryu Maru
PB Showa Maru #5
PB Showa Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS Skipjack

SS Skipjack launches 4 torpedoes at DMS W-7
Skipjack bottoming out ....
PB Showa Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Showa Maru #3 fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Showa Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Showa Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Showa Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Showa Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Showa Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Submarine attack near Hong Kong at 77,61

Japanese Ships
xAK Sinkyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-41

xAK Sinkyo Maru is sighted by SS S-41
SS S-41 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Sinkyo Maru

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ASW attack near Vigan at 80,73

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 15

Allied Ships
SS S-39, hits 10

SS S-39 is sighted by escort
S-39 bottoming out ....
SC Ch 15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 15 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 15 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 15 is out of ASW ammo
SC Ch 15 is out of ASW ammo
SC Ch 15 is out of ASW ammo
SC Ch 15 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 15 is out of ASW ammo
SC Ch 15 is out of ASW ammo
SC Ch 15 is out of ASW ammo
SC Ch 15 is out of ASW ammo
SC Ch 15 is out of ASW ammo
SC Ch 15 is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub

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TF 98 encounters mine field at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-14

19 mines cleared

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TF 112 encounters mine field at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-13

20 mines cleared

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TF 128 encounters mine field at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-16
DMS W-15

43 mines cleared

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Manila at 79,77

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 2
P-40B Warhawk x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 18000 feet

CAP engaged:
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
35th PG/34th PS with P-35A (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Manila at 79,77

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
G4M1 Betty x 6

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
AM Whippoorwill, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Raid is overhead
35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Manila at 79,77

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 56 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
G4M1 Betty x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AM Lark
AM Tanager, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 18
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 9

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 55

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 10 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.21 Sqn RAAF with Buffalo I (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 9 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
No.243 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 8 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 9 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
No.488 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 7 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

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Morning Air attack on SSVF Brigade, at 49,75 (Taiping)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-27b Nate attacking from 100 feet

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 45
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 7
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed on ground
Hudson I: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.488 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
No.21 Sqn RAAF with Buffalo I (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 6
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 28

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 18000 feet *
23 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet *
5 x Ki-43-Ia Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet *
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 18000 feet *

CAP engaged:
No.21 Sqn RAAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on 8th Indian Brigade, at 51,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 28

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking FMSV Brigade ...
Also attacking 8th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking FMSV Brigade ...
Also attacking 8th Indian Brigade ...

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Morning Air attack on 22nd Indian Brigade, at 51,79 (Kuantan)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 1st ISF Base Force ...
Also attacking 22nd Indian Brigade ...

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-15-II Babs x 1
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 5
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 18000 feet *
5 x Ki-43-Ia Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet *
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 18000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 5
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 18000 feet *
5 x Ki-43-Ia Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet *
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 18000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Ichang , at 83,48

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 7
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 9

Allied aircraft
A-29A Hudson x 7
DB-3M x 3
SB-III x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-29A Hudson: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
DB-3M: 3 damaged
SB-III: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x DB-3M bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 100 kg GP Bomb
5 x A-29A Hudson bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
5 x SB-III bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 100 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
54th Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead
54th Sentai Det A with Ki-43-Ia Oscar (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Legaspi , at 82,82

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 7

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 1

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Mizuho-1 with F1M2 Pete (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-15-II Babs x 1
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 5
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 18000 feet *
5 x Ki-43-Ia Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet *
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 18000 feet *

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Afternoon Air attack on 30th Chinese/C Corps, at 85,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 6
Ki-51 Sonia x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Groot Natoena at 60,83

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 3
B-339D x 2

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x 139WH-3 bombing from 15000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 300 kg SAP Bomb

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Pre-Invasion action off Jesselton

2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Fuji Maru #3

PB Fuji Maru #3 firing at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft

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Amphibious Assault at Jesselton

TF 219 troops unloading over beach at Jesselton, 68,86

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Ground combat at Kweiteh (90,46)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12126 troops, 140 guns, 92 vehicles, Assault Value = 753

Defending force 2421 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 89

Japanese adjusted assault: 418

Allied adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 139 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kweiteh !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units pursuing 1

Allied ground losses:
1697 casualties reported
Squads: 98 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 49 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
13th Indpt Infantry Regiment
32nd Division
26th Engineer Regiment
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
51st Chinese Corps
69th Chinese Corps

B is takign it slow and steady and covering everything and never getting off balance - damnation !!!

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 82,82, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Urukaze, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
CA Houston, Shell hits 3
DD Scout, Shell hits 1
DD Thanet
DD Thracian

Reduced sighting due to 10% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 10% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 6,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 6,000 yards
CL Nagara launches Long Lance Torpedoes at CA Houston at 6,000 yards
DD Urukaze launches Torpedoes at CA Houston at 6,000 yards
DD Urukaze fires at DD Thanet at 6,000 yards
DD Umikaze launches Long Lance Torpedoes at DD Scout at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CA Houston at 2,000 yards
DD Thracian engages DD Umikaze at 2,000 yards
DD Scout engages DD Suzukaze at 2,000 yards
DD Suzukaze engages DD Scout at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
CA Houston engages CL Nagara at 3,000 yards
DD Thracian engages DD Urukaze at 3,000 yards
DD Suzukaze engages DD Scout at 3,000 yards
DD Umikaze engages DD Scout at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
CL Nagara engages CA Houston at 6,000 yards
DD Umikaze engages DD Thracian at 6,000 yards
DD Suzukaze engages DD Thracian at 6,000 yards
DD Scout engages DD Umikaze at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CA Houston engages CL Nagara at 9,000 yards
DD Urukaze engages DD Thracian at 9,000 yards
DD Urukaze engages DD Thanet at 9,000 yards
DD Umikaze engages DD Scout at 9,000 yards
Task forces break off...

Numerous misses or duds and then thank gawd for the Pigboats

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Submarine attack near Hong Kong at 77,61

Japanese Ships
xAK Sinkyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-41

xAK Sinkyo Maru is sighted by SS S-41
SS S-41 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Sinkyo Maru

This was significant because of the damaged aircraft I suffered I think I set the Buffalos to be to high they really struggled agaonst the Oscars whats the opyimum height for a Buffalo to try and fight ?

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 18
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 9

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 55

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 10 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.21 Sqn RAAF with Buffalo I (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 9 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
No.243 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 8 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 9 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
No.488 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 7 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

Follow up raid no CAP

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 45
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 7
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed on ground
Hudson I: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.488 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
No.21 Sqn RAAF with Buffalo I (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 6
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 28

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 18000 feet *
23 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet *
5 x Ki-43-Ia Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet *
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 18000 feet *

CAP engaged:
No.21 Sqn RAAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on 22nd Indian Brigade, at 51,79 (Kuantan)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 1st ISF Base Force ...
Also attacking 22nd Indian Brigade ...

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-15-II Babs x 1
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 5
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 18000 feet *
5 x Ki-43-Ia Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet *
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 18000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 5
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 18000 feet *
5 x Ki-43-Ia Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet *
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 18000 feet *

There were more uncontested fights as well

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/22/2009 1:38:59 AM

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Something else to think about guys the scale of this game is really Div/Bde there are a lot of Bns scattered about at start for the allies which are usefull garrison but a Bn of Inf v a Regt will lose more often than not.

Take a long hard look at what you have in Australia and India - if you want to accelerate getting other forces ready for the fight and more importantly up to strength so they are not being diluted by replacements think long and hard about cannibalisation

The reality is a Bn sized force even a Bn group sized force is not going to do you much good.

The Aus Light Horse Bns were cannibalised int his fashion later in the war so its not gamey to make that decision now to accelerate getting other units up to speed.

Its harder to do in India because of the need for garrisons but even there a one off exercise to reduce a few Bns can greatly strengthen your Divs and make them combat ready.

looking that the Australian candidates for this activity

22nd Motor Bn - probably not worth it unless you are short of militia replacements - more worth it after they upgrade to AIF 42 squads.
17th, 19th and 25th MG Bns on the other hand are strong candidates for a disband to the pool - those three MG Bn's can pretty much bring every Aus Militia Div more or less up to strength in MMG Sections - vital as so much of the Divs firepower is in the MMG's - if you have some to spare you can always rebuild the Bns in 6 mon ths time.

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/22/2009 2:58:42 AM

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Andy, good AAR. Couple things:

In MALAYA, I am very interested in your defensive plan. I think defending forward in Malaya is foolish, since it takes a long time just to walk down the peninsula, but curious if that hex is better than Singapore itself. I chose to just move everyone to Singapore, not sure if that was the best choice or not.

On GROUND DISBAND, doesn't that cost VPs though? I see the logic otherwise.

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/22/2009 7:38:16 AM

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Hi Andy,

Great to see you guys back at it

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/22/2009 8:20:57 AM

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quote:

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Something else to think about guys the scale of this game is really Div/Bde there are a lot of Bns scattered about at start for the allies which are usefull garrison but a Bn of Inf v a Regt will lose more often than not.

Take a long hard look at what you have in Australia and India - if you want to accelerate getting other forces ready for the fight and more importantly up to strength so they are not being diluted by replacements think long and hard about cannibalisation

The reality is a Bn sized force even a Bn group sized force is not going to do you much good.

The Aus Light Horse Bns were cannibalised int his fashion later in the war so its not gamey to make that decision now to accelerate getting other units up to speed.

Its harder to do in India because of the need for garrisons but even there a one off exercise to reduce a few Bns can greatly strengthen your Divs and make them combat ready.

looking that the Australian candidates for this activity

22nd Motor Bn - probably not worth it unless you are short of militia replacements - more worth it after they upgrade to AIF 42 squads.
17th, 19th and 25th MG Bns on the other hand are strong candidates for a disband to the pool - those three MG Bn's can pretty much bring every Aus Militia Div more or less up to strength in MMG Sections - vital as so much of the Divs firepower is in the MMG's - if you have some to spare you can always rebuild the Bns in 6 mon ths time.

am I interpreting your comment right in that I can now also disband ground units and that their squads and equipment will go back into the pool?

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/22/2009 8:46:08 AM

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Yes if a unit is manually disbanded at a key city (Delhi/Sydney/Tokyo etc) then all the active devices in the unit are sent to the pool and you have the option of the empty shell unit returning in 6 months.

Be carefull you only get 50% of the disabled devices.

It costs 0 VP's if you do it at a key city to allow reorgs to (despite what the screen says)

If you do it under the this base has 200k supply plus a command HQ rule then you pay a VP penalty (this stops for example disbanding the Malayan garrison if you get Singapore to 200k supply)

This is really usefull because a lot of allied units start understreght and pool sizes are small and replacements low in 42 sometimes I am tempted to disband an entire Div on day 1 for replacements but I usually talk myself out of it ont eh grounds that it takes so long to rebuild - a Bn or even a Bde on the other hand can be rebuilt quite quickly.

Re my point of defence - ok this is suopposition built on supposition but here is my logic.

I dont think PZB realises how slow the Temuloh axis of attack is I see no sign of units on the Alor Star axis and I dont think PZB realises how much faster things go once you get Taiping. In many ways Taiping is the key to Malaya its the first railhead on the west coast road. Once Japanese armour get there they roll down the West coast at speed and every base they take brings the railhead further forward.

It can be offputting the amount of time it take to get to Alor Star as thats slow going but after you get Taiping its game over.

My impression of PZB is he is throwing everything into the Temuloh axis - I normally have Alor Star by now and even Taiping if I use paras so he is slow on the West Coast route.

What this means is that defending further forward is an option because I will get to dig in.

Why defend a Jungle hex 90 miles from Singapore.

Well

1. Its a delayiong hex nothing more I dont expect to hold it but it will force PZB to concentrate before attacking not just at Singapore but also at this hex - double the concentration double the delay.
2. PZB cannot stop my units digging in via air attacks on AF or port and he will start pounding Singers AF and Port soon he is no mug and will know he needs to stop me digging in.
3. Defending a non base hex means if he wants to disrupt my troops fromt eh air he needs to get down and dirty right into my AA guns envelope

4. Jungle is the same terrian defensive bonus as light urban.
5. If PZB does get bogged down on the Temuloh axis I can sprint a couple of Divs forward to Temuloh and force a third delay on him
6. PZB cannot prep for a non base hex neither can I but at least this way neither of us gets the advantage
7. I am on the road so even a combat mode withdrawal will be relativelly fast and if I time it right i can bug out before he gets to attack.

This is all theory because I have never tried it but I have a shot at delaying him and I wanted to try a new tactic.

The one thing the allies need to be is flexible so we shall see how it goes

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/22/2009 3:32:59 PM

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p.s. just so everyone is clear this is all about delay

44th and 45th Indian Bdes are en route to Rangoon and will reinforce BurCorps

63rd bde is en route as well as round out for 17th Indian Div

18th British Div now that is the question where do I commit the 18th.....

I am really really tempted to send it to PM actually as it could make a real difference there.

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/22/2009 3:36:00 PM

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My logic for sending it to PM is as follows

If I get a strong allied Corps organised on NG its going to be tough for the Japanese to shift me.

So lets say I have

PM Bde
30th Aus bde
and 3rd Motor Bde (Mechanised)

all on PM

if I add 1 LAA and 1 HAA Regt RA to the mix plus 18th British Div that makes ita damned tough objective to take for the Japanese especially if I keep feeding more LA and HAA into the defence.

Even without air superiority thats a tough nut to crack...

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/22/2009 5:20:45 PM

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That is an interesting strategy in Malaya. I had never considered defending in a non base hex but your logic makes alot of sense. Not being able to prep for the hex makes attacking it alot harder and air attacks are going to be costly against AA (as a Jap player I know all about that

) and he will not like the cost in pilots and planes. One thing though I have noticed that when forces get pushed back they tend to not be able to stand after that so once he gets you moving back he may walk right over you if things don't go exactly as you plan. Good luck though. The longer you delay him there the harder it will be to take Java and poiints further west and east

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/22/2009 5:49:56 PM

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It aint worked yet....

OK what other deployable assets do i have

8th Marine Regt
53rd Seperate US Regt
3 Regts of 40th Inf Div
3 Regts of 24th and 25th Divs
2nd Para Bn
41st Div
27th Div
Americal Div
13th Canadian Bde

and a few other follwo on forces.

Not all of these are ready and some will need PP's

Ideally what I want to do is send 25th Div's 3 Regts plus 8th Marines to the SOPAC and replace them in PH with another Div thats not 100% combat ready.

Basically shuffle it so a Div is constantly getting combat ready at PH maintaining a 2 Div garrison there while other forces are shuffled to the SOPAC.

I am short of lift from the West Coast at present although Queen Elizabeth covers 17 hexes a day so she will be back quickly and can lift the best part of a Regt alone

A fast convoy has just left SF with 2 Regts of US Infantry and 3 Sqns of P39's 10,000 tonnes of fuel and 30,000 tonnes of supply covered the Cruiser Concord and 3 Destroyers this convoy is the 1st of many that must get through

A follow on convoy with the 47th Constn Bn and 19th Combat Engr Regt is loading
and will also have a substantial escort.

B17's are being rushed forward to act as LR Search platforms I almost feel naked at present as I cannot see much out there

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/22/2009 9:02:25 PM

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How do you know if your an addict again ---- when you keep pressing the send/recieve button waitiing for a turn and curse an opponent who has the gall to take a holiday

sorry string !!!

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/23/2009 11:08:50 AM

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Andy, I like sending the 8th Marines to PM. It has excellent combat power, and plenty of reinforcements. Later it can act as the main assualt unit. marines get lots of reinforcements.

The 18th Div I send to Darwin. Initally to hold, then to act as a possible offensive weapon.

That can free the Aussie Divs up to help in India.

Good luck!

Cheers

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/23/2009 3:44:41 PM

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quote:

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How do you know if your an addict again ---- when you keep pressing the send/recieve button waitiing for a turn and curse an opponent who has the gall to take a holiday sorry string !!!

Well, if it pleases you I'm not too happy about it either.

I'm following this AAR with interest and I wish I could give you some suggestions, but I'm afraid that they'll be used against me

. I guess I'll try and use them in my allied game if I ever get one running.

I guess the most important component for such a game would be an opponent who doesn't quit (i've had two so far).

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/23/2009 7:56:35 PM

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Well it gets worse looks like I just wrote off my car on the giant ice rink thaat is the M6 on my way home for the holidays

In the boot (which is jammed shut) my laptop with all my WITP files.

Need to get creative and find a way around it

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/23/2009 8:01:42 PM

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Every time I have reinforced PM, my opponent hits it with KB, BBs and enough troops to take it. Then my reinforcements wind up starving tin the jungle.

Sorry to hear about your accident. Glad you are OK. Got to get the trunk open and get those files out.

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/23/2009 8:02:18 PM

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Hmmm, can opener? chainsaw? Can you get at it through the back seat?

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/23/2009 8:10:10 PM

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Not sure I had to leaveit in a garage 200 miles away from home so I will need to think it through.

I have an old build on my mums PC that I used for testing if I use th enew hotfix exe on that install it will probably work...

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/23/2009 8:14:48 PM

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Hmmm, can opener? chainsaw? Can you get at it through the back seat?

That was my first thought - most modern sedans seems to have the rear seat hinged even though it's rarely used.

Good luck.

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/23/2009 8:45:31 PM

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Ice on the road, whats Ice doing on the road???

At 0600 this morning it was over 30deg C!

Only Ice we have goes into the drinks.

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/23/2009 9:12:14 PM

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Yep, that's the ice he's talking about. It was in his drink, now it's on the road...

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/23/2009 11:31:42 PM

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It was -8 when I left London this morning which is nothing to some of the foklks on the forum but I was driving a hardtop convertible so unfortunately I cannot get to boot via the back seat :(

I think I have it working and PZB has not sent me a turn so I will sign off for tonight.

The main debates will be what forces to send to PM.

When I get the next turn I will give the full rundown of current forces and intended reinforcements and a rough timetable for the build up.

The main issue at present is lack of fighters to escort any bombers.

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/23/2009 11:33:02 PM

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PZB is being very very methodical in his approach so far - no mistakes no uncovered TF's patiently rolling forward with unstoppable momentum

I will try to derail that momentum but only when it suits me.

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/24/2009 1:33:39 AM

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I'm at the end of 12/41 with your 'special' Ironman mod (Scen 80) and have yet to figure out what to do with my Aussies.

Any ideas of what to do with them?? Do you combine the components into their parent divisions?? Why or why not??

FYI - Those extra Japanese carriers are really being a PITA in the SRA.

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/24/2009 5:08:21 PM

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Aussie Militia Divs are a hard temptation that IMO must be resisted.

It is very easy to buy out a Bde or two of a partial Div and rush them forweard - undertrained and equipped with low morale and no heavy equipment.

I have doen it everyone has done it hell in real life they did it with 39th Bn

But you must resist unless the need is desperate.

That manpower when upgraded is vital later int he war to the Australian Army losing a couple of hundred CMF Militia Sections when they are next thing to useless against anything but a raid is wastefull and you dont get that many replacements later - you will struggle to fill up all the Divs.

So resist unless its critical until they are at LEAST CMF Sections and not CMF Militia Sections and at least 50xp with a full allocation of support weapons.

Personally as I view this is a Divisional level game I recombine two or 3 of them straight away and set them to train up and rest. These are the Divs that will later be bought out for operation in NG. Other units are spread about West North and East Coast Australia.

Divisions should always fight as Divisions where ever possible - Bde Groups and especially Bn Groups get eaten up and spat out in combat - they have no staying power - you need properly constituted Divs with adequate support and supporting weapons to do a job IMO.

OK a good turn for me this one !!!

1ST bit of good news my SCTF's caught an underguarded Japanese Invasion TF while it was at anchor unloading

It was screened by a light TF that didnt get the job done a mixed Dutch/USN TF went in and sank the lot.

1st mistake PZB has made.

Second piece of god news

4 Army A-24's caught an uncovered TF at Manus.

Now as it happens a further 18 Marine SBD-2's were also at rabaul but didnt fly so he may decide to stick around figuring 4 Army DB's are weak.

If he does it could be fun tommorrow as a small USN DD TF is in the vicinity and will go into Manus harbour tomorrow.

Apart from that the air battle of Manila and Singapore are lost nothing more I can do my aircraft are being attrited to fast I am pulling out of Sinagpore to rebuild.

RAAF and RAF Buffalo Sqns are heading for India before tavoy falls and the route is cut.

One RAF Buffalo Sqn is en route to PM as I dont like having no land based fighters in the South Pacific or Australia.

So a single RAF Buffalo Sqn will head that way to give some help.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Manus at 101,119

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Macassar Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x A-24 Banshee diving from 4000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Manado at 75,99, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Fubuki, Shell hits 1
DD Usugumo
DD Hatsuyuki, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CL Tromp, Shell hits 1
CL Marblehead
DD Barker
DD Bulmer
DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 1
DD Parrott
DD Stewart
DD Van Ghent, Shell hits 1, on fire

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 25,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 25,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
DD Hatsuyuki engages CL Marblehead at 19,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages CL Tromp at 19,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Parrott at 15,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages CL Tromp at 15,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages DD Fubuki at 15,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Stewart at 15,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages DD Hatsuyuki at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Van Ghent at 11,000 yards
CL Tromp engages DD Hatsuyuki at 11,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Bulmer at 11,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Parrott at 11,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages DD Hatsuyuki at 11,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Bulmer at 11,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Barker at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages DD Hatsuyuki at 9,000 yards
CL Tromp engages DD Hatsuyuki at 9,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Van Ghent at 9,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Stewart at 9,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Bulmer at 9,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Barker at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages DD Hatsuyuki at 13,000 yards
CL Tromp engages DD Hatsuyuki at 13,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Stewart at 13,000 yards
DD Parrott engages DD Hatsuyuki at 13,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Paul Jones at 13,000 yards
DD Barker engages DD Fubuki at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 17,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Van Ghent at 17,000 yards
CL Tromp engages DD Hatsuyuki at 17,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages DD Hatsuyuki at 17,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Parrott at 17,000 yards
DD Barker engages DD Fubuki at 17,000 yards
Kamiura, Junnari orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 19,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages DD Hatsuyuki at 19,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages DD Usugumo at 19,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Parrott at 19,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Bulmer at 19,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Barker at 19,000 yards
Range increases to 21,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Van Ghent at 21,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Van Ghent at 21,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Manado at 75,99, Range 17,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
APD Fuji, Shell hits 23, heavy fires, heavy damage
TB Hiyodori, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
AMc Toroshima Maru, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PB Heiei Maru #7, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
xAK Syoka Maru, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Rokko Maru, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Igasa Maru, Shell hits 32, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21, Shell hits 17, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Sasago Maru, Shell hits 19, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Tromp, Shell hits 1
CL Marblehead
DD Barker
DD Bulmer
DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Parrott
DD Stewart
DD Van Ghent, heavy fires

Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 22,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 17,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages xAK Syoka Maru at 17,000 yards
DD Barker engages TB Hiyodori at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
AMc Toroshima Maru sunk by CL Marblehead at 14,000 yards
DD Barker engages TB Hiyodori at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages TB Hiyodori at 10,000 yards
CL Tromp engages xAK Igasa Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAK Igasa Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAK Rokko Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages xAK Syoka Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages TB Hiyodori at 9,000 yards
CL Tromp engages TB Hiyodori at 9,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages xAK Igasa Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAK Rokko Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages xAK Rokko Maru at 6,000 yards
CL Tromp engages xAK Rokko Maru at 6,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages APD Fuji at 6,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAK Igasa Maru at 6,000 yards
DD Parrott engages xAK Syoka Maru at 6,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAK Rokko Maru at 6,000 yards
xAK Rokko Maru sunk by DD Bulmer at 6,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages APD Fuji at 7,000 yards
CL Tromp engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 7,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages xAK Igasa Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Parrott engages xAK Syoka Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Parrott engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages xAK Syoka Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Barker engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 7,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages TB Hiyodori at 7,000 yards
CL Tromp engages PB Heiei Maru #7 at 7,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 7,000 yards
DD Stewart engages APD Fuji at 7,000 yards
xAK Syoka Maru sunk by DD Stewart at 7,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CL Tromp engages TB Hiyodori at 8,000 yards
DD Parrott engages APD Fuji at 8,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAK Igasa Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Barker engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 8,000 yards
TB Hiyodori engages DD Bulmer at 8,000 yards
DD Barker engages APD Fuji at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 9,000 yards
CL Tromp engages xAK Igasa Maru at 9,000 yards
CL Tromp engages APD Fuji at 9,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 9,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages TB Hiyodori at 9,000 yards
DD Barker engages xAK Igasa Maru at 9,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages TB Hiyodori at 9,000 yards
CL Tromp engages PB Heiei Maru #7 at 9,000 yards
CL Tromp engages APD Fuji at 9,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAK Igasa Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Parrott engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages APD Fuji at 9,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages APD Fuji at 9,000 yards
DD Barker engages APD Fuji at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages APD Fuji at 11,000 yards
CL Tromp engages PB Heiei Maru #7 at 11,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages APD Fuji at 11,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages xAK Igasa Maru at 11,000 yards
DD Parrott engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 11,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages xAK Igasa Maru at 11,000 yards
DD Barker engages xAK Igasa Maru at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Tromp engages TB Hiyodori at 8,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages PB Heiei Maru #7 at 8,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages APD Fuji at 8,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages xAK Igasa Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Parrott engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 8,000 yards
DD Barker engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 8,000 yards
DD Barker engages APD Fuji at 8,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages PB Heiei Maru #7 at 8,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages APD Fuji at 8,000 yards
DD Parrott engages TB Hiyodori at 8,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 8,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages TB Hiyodori at 8,000 yards
DD Barker engages APD Fuji at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages TB Hiyodori at 10,000 yards
CL Tromp engages PB Heiei Maru #7 at 10,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages APD Fuji at 10,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAK Igasa Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAK Igasa Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages TB Hiyodori at 10,000 yards
DD Barker engages APD Fuji at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages TB Hiyodori at 9,000 yards
CL Tromp engages APD Fuji at 9,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages xAK Igasa Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages xAK Igasa Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Parrott engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 9,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages TB Hiyodori at 10,000 yards
CL Tromp engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 10,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages APD Fuji at 10,000 yards
DD Parrott engages xAKL Sasago Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages APD Fuji at 10,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages TB Hiyodori at 10,000 yards
DD Barker engages APD Fuji at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages TB Hiyodori at 8,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages PB Heiei Maru #7 at 8,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages APD Fuji at 8,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages xAK Igasa Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Parrott engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 8,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAK Igasa Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Barker engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 8,000 yards
de Meester, J.B. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Tromp engages TB Hiyodori at 9,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages xAK Igasa Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Parrott engages xAK Igasa Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages xAK Igasa Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages APD Fuji at 13,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages PB Heiei Maru #7 at 13,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages APD Fuji at 13,000 yards
DD Stewart engages APD Fuji at 13,000 yards
DD Parrott engages xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 13,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages APD Fuji at 13,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages xAK Igasa Maru at 13,000 yards
DD Barker engages xAK Igasa Maru at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 18,000 yards
CL Tromp engages TB Hiyodori at 18,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages xAK Igasa Maru at 18,000 yards
Range increases to 23,000 yards
CL Marblehead engages xAK Igasa Maru at 23,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/24/2009 6:12:07 PM

Andy Mac

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Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway

The key line

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/24/2009 6:47:31 PM

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Hi Andy, just want to drop message!
Glad that you are playing with Pzb again!

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/24/2009 7:19:33 PM

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PZB and String at the same time I must be nuts !!!

Nice to hear from you all the best for tomorrow

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RE: Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!! - 12/24/2009 8:41:00 PM

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I had a bit of time in my last turn to think and I need to igure out a way for Buffalos to fight Zeroes anyone got a good idea on how to do it and get a reasonable rate of return ?

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