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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 5/6/2010 3:17:27 PM

EUBanana

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I also put the Dutch Martins down on low level naval bombing on day 1 of the war, and when the Japs came knocking at Java, sent the Dutch in banzai style at 100'.

Results actually weren't too bad! They got massacred but did manage to score a few penetrating hits, including on CVs, which is better than they normally do. I think that'll probably be the standard move for the Dutch airforce in my games from now on.

I noticed from playing Guad scenarios that B17s, even untrained, are ridiculously lethal at 100'. A handful of B17s can do serious damage to Japanese CVs skip bombing, you get more hits than you have bombers sometimes, and half a dozen to a dozen 500lbers will seriously f*ck up all but the heavily armoured CVs. They are also pretty much immune to CAP, at least they seemed to be when I did it, and they can reach out and touch CVs from a very long way. I got no issue with using mediums in such a role but using heavies to do that struck me as gamey, so common decency stops me from doing it usually.

Low level naval bombing is pretty borked IMO. But I find, same as you, that the Allies basically have no choice but to do this, you got almost no antishipping capability otherwise.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 5/6/2010 3:26:45 PM

castor troy

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 25, 42
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ASW attack near Milne Bay at 101,134

Japanese Ships
SS RO-67, hits 1

Allied Ships
CL Adelaide
AMC Westralia
AMC Monowai
AM Wollongong
AM Lithgow
AP William Ward Burrows
AP Barnett
xAP Illisos
xAP Iron Warrior
xAP Echunga
xAP Arkaba
xAP Nairana
xAP Maori
xAP Dardanus
xAP Jalaratna
xAP Haresfield
xAP Congella
xAP Clan Maciver
xAP Changte
xAP St. Mihel
xAK Bundaleer
xAK Laida
xAK Potter
xAK Admiral Laws
xAK Lena Luckenbach
xAK Julia Luckenbach
xAK J.L. Luckenbach
xAK Tuscaloosa City
xAK Lancaster
xAK Challenger
DD La Triomphant
DD Allen
DE Ward
DE Chew

SS RO-67 is sighted by escort
RO-67 diving deep ....
DD La Triomphant fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Allen fails to find sub and abandons search
DE Ward fails to find sub and abandons search
DE Chew attacking submerged sub ....
DE Chew fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Chew attacking submerged sub ....
DE Chew is out of ASW ammo
DE Chew is out of ASW ammo
DE Chew is out of ASW ammo
DE Chew fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Chew fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

nice intel for my opponent, we�ve sent a 100 ship convoy to Milne Bay to pick up the two divisions that were sent there to take the place... they are in perfect shape and already are 50+ prepped for the next target... they�re moved back to Townsville which is the staging base for all my invasions so far and probably so for the next 6 months... I wouldn�t want to see a couple of IJN cruisers showing up tomorrow, it will take one day to load the troops and move out again...

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Sub attack near Suva at 131,161

Japanese Ships
SS I-29, hits 2

Allied Ships
xAP Macdhui, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
AM Bowen
AK Betelgeuse
AK Fomalhaut
xAP Santhia
xAP Rajula
xAP Rochambeau
xAP Lurline
xAK Liberty Glo
xAK Sawokla
xAK Crown City
AM Strahan
AM Rockhampton
AM Gladstone

SS I-29 launches 6 torpedoes at xAP Macdhui
I-29 diving deep ....
AM Strahan fails to find sub and abandons search
AM Rockhampton fails to find sub and abandons search
AM Gladstone attacking submerged sub ....
AM Gladstone loses contact with SS I-29
AM Gladstone fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Gladstone fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Gladstone attacking submerged sub ....
AM Gladstone fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

this convoy going to Suva to pick up one of the three divisions on Fidji as I doubt the enemy will attack anyway... attacks deep into my territory are over IMO, the Japanese have to focus on the defense now... we�re going to keep some bgds at Suva and Nandi with some support troops but that�s it then... the three divs there were set to prep for different targets already months ago... the transport sank outright and the sub took a hit and a near miss...

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ASW attack near Canberra at 89,170

Japanese Ships
SS I-27, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD MacDonough
DD Farragut
DD Hull

SS I-27 launches 6 torpedoes at DD MacDonough
I-27 diving deep ....
DD MacDonough attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hull fails to find sub and abandons search
DD MacDonough attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-27 eludes ASW attack from DD MacDonough
DD MacDonough cannot reach attack position over SS I-27
DD MacDonough loses contact with SS I-27
DD MacDonough fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD MacDonough fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD MacDonough fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

one of the ASW TFs based at Sydney is being shot at...

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Sub attack near Milne Bay at 101,134

Japanese Ships
SS RO-66, hits 2

Allied Ships
DD Electra
DD Express
DD Encounter

SS RO-66 launches 4 torpedoes at DD Electra
RO-66 diving deep ....
DD Express fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter attacking submerged sub ....
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

as well as the British ASW TF around Milne Bay...

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Sub attack near Truk at 113,110

Japanese Ships
xAK Daijukyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Kyo Maru #6

Allied Ships
SS Gudgeon

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

SS Gudgeon launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Daijukyo Maru
Gudgeon diving deep ....
PB Kyo Maru #6 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #6 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #6 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #6 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #6 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

troop transport that was hit earlier is finished...

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ASW attack near Milne Bay at 101,134

Japanese Ships
SS RO-64

Allied Ships
DD Encounter
DD Express

SS RO-64 is located by DD Encounter
RO-64 diving deep ....
DD Express fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Hengchun at 85,68

Japanese Ships
xAK Yamabuki Maru
xAK Zinzan Maru
xAK Kyokusei Maru
SC CHa-11

Allied Ships
SS Growler

SS Growler is sighted by escort
Growler diving deep ....
SC CHa-11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on 110th Combat Engineer Battalion, at 99,130

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 25

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet *

CAP engaged:
VMF-111 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes

Tojos from Gasmata doing a sweep over our combat eng units on the Kokoda trail to pick off leaking Cap from Port Moresby... luckily only one Wildcat showed up and has only been damaged but not lost... the enemy of course did not get a coordinated attack...

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Morning Air attack on 110th Combat Engineer Battalion, at 99,130

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet *

some more Tojos...

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ASW attack near Jaffna at 29,45

Japanese Ships
SS I-30

Allied Ships
DD Thanet
DD Tenedos

SS I-30 is sighted by escort
DD Thanet fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thanet fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

ASW attack around Ceylon... two subs were spotted in the area but we don�t have shipping going to Ceylon...

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Sub attack near Taihoku at 88,62

Japanese Ships
TK Azuma Maru #2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Seki Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS Amberjack

SS Amberjack launches 6 torpedoes at TK Azuma Maru #2
PB Seki Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Seki Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Seki Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Seki Maru #3 attacking submerged sub ....
PB Seki Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

oil loaden tanker is burning... burn baby burn...

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Ground combat at Buna (99,129)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1597 troops, 47 guns, 46 vehicles, Assault Value = 711

Defending force 13779 troops, 145 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 362

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Americal Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
5th RAA Coastal Artillery Regiment
I US Amphib Corps
2nd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
4th Division
Maizuru 1st SNLF
83rd Naval Guard Unit
50th Field AA Battalion
2nd Provisional Base Force
6th Naval Construction Battalion
7th Naval Const Bn /287

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 5/6/2010 3:51:40 PM

castor troy

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 26, 42
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ASW attack near Truk at 111,109

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 5
SC Ch 11
SC Ch 10

Allied Ships
SS Narwhal, hits 4

SS Narwhal is sighted by escort
Narwhal diving deep ....
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 10 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 10 is out of ASW ammo
SC Ch 10 is out of ASW ammo
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

a hit and three near misses put Narwhal out of action... retiring damaged to Brisbane...

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ASW attack near Canberra at 89,170

Japanese Ships
SS I-27

Allied Ships
DD MacDonough
DD Farragut
DD Hull

SS I-27 is located by DD MacDonough
I-27 diving deep ....
DD MacDonough attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-27 eludes ASW attack from DD MacDonough
DD MacDonough is out of ASW ammo
DD Hull fails to find sub and abandons search
DD MacDonough attacking submerged sub ....
DD MacDonough is out of ASW ammo
DD MacDonough is out of ASW ammo
DD MacDonough is out of ASW ammo
DD MacDonough is out of ASW ammo
DD MacDonough is out of ASW ammo
DD MacDonough is out of ASW ammo
DD MacDonough fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD MacDonough fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD MacDonough fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD MacDonough attacking submerged sub ....
DD MacDonough is out of ASW ammo
DD MacDonough is out of ASW ammo
DD MacDonough is out of ASW ammo
DD MacDonough is out of ASW ammo
DD MacDonough is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub

dropped a whole load of depth charges over two days but we haven�t achieved anything...

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ASW attack near Truk at 110,110

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 10
SC Ch 5
xAKL Higari Maru
SC Ch 11

Allied Ships
SS Seal

SS Seal is sighted by escort
Seal diving deep ....
SC Ch 11 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Toyohara at 124,48

Japanese Ships
xAK Hokkai Maru
xAK Hohuku Maru
PB Tokihime Maru

Allied Ships
SS Haddock, hits 1

SS Haddock is sighted by escort
Haddock diving deep ....
PB Tokihime Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tokihime Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tokihime Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tokihime Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tokihime Maru attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Canberra at 89,170

Japanese Ships
SS I-27, hits 6, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Dunlap
DD Cushing
DD Mahan

SS I-27 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Dunlap
I-27 diving deep ....
DD Cushing attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-27 eludes ASW attack from DD Cushing
DD Mahan attacking submerged sub ....
DD Cushing fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Mahan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mahan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mahan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mahan fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

we get another chance as I-27 tried to attack one of the destroyers and in return we score some damage... the sub was reported moving North later on so it�s not been sunk...

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Sub attack near Truk at 111,109

Japanese Ships
DD Tanikaze
DD Arare
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo

Allied Ships
SS Trout

SS Trout launches 6 torpedoes at DD Tanikaze
Trout diving deep ....
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagumo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Minegumo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Arare fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Asagumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Minegumo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Asagumo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Minegumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Minegumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Minegumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Lingga at 51,88

Japanese Ships
TK Teiyo Maru
DMS W-16

Allied Ships
SS KXVI

SS KXVI is sighted by escort
DMS W-16 fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS W-16 fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS W-16 fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS W-16 fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS W-16 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near New Hanover Island at 103,122

Japanese Ships
DD Umikaze
DD Yugure
DD Hatsushima

Allied Ships
SS O24

SS O24 is sighted by escort
O24 diving deep ....
DD Yugure attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hatsushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugure fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hatsushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsushima attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Fergusson Island , at 102,132

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 26

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 25000 feet *

another try to pick off leaking Cap from Milne Bay...

sweep one...

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Morning Air attack on Fergusson Island , at 102,132

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 25000 feet *

two...

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Morning Air attack on Fergusson Island , at 102,132

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 28

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet *

and three...

it�s just like I�ve always said, it just (doesn�t) work for both sides...

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 28
B-24D Liberator x 27

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 40

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 10

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Buna (99,129)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1609 troops, 47 guns, 46 vehicles, Assault Value = 942

Defending force 13549 troops, 140 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 350

Assaulting units:
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
151st Combat Engineer Regiment
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
Americal Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
5th RAA Coastal Artillery Regiment
I US Amphib Corps
2nd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
4th Division
Maizuru 1st SNLF
83rd Naval Guard Unit
7th Naval Const Bn /287
2nd Provisional Base Force
50th Field AA Battalion
6th Naval Const Bn /294

the combat engineers arrived... good news, we�re now going to work on the enemy fortifications...

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 5/6/2010 4:04:18 PM

castor troy

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quote:

ORIGINAL: EUBanana

I also put the Dutch Martins down on low level naval bombing on day 1 of the war, and when the Japs came knocking at Java, sent the Dutch in banzai style at 100'.

Results actually weren't too bad! They got massacred but did manage to score a few penetrating hits, including on CVs, which is better than they normally do. I think that'll probably be the standard move for the Dutch airforce in my games from now on.

I noticed from playing Guad scenarios that B17s, even untrained, are ridiculously lethal at 100'. A handful of B17s can do serious damage to Japanese CVs skip bombing, you get more hits than you have bombers sometimes, and half a dozen to a dozen 500lbers will seriously f*ck up all but the heavily armoured CVs. They are also pretty much immune to CAP, at least they seemed to be when I did it, and they can reach out and touch CVs from a very long way. I got no issue with using mediums in such a role but using heavies to do that struck me as gamey, so common decency stops me from doing it usually.

Low level naval bombing is pretty borked IMO. But I find, same as you, that the Allies basically have no choice but to do this, you got almost no antishipping capability otherwise.

I didn�t have much chance to experiment with my Dutch bombers as I had a day when 50+ were shot down by a handful Zeroes so I ran out of bombers quite quickly.

We�ve got the house rule about no 4Es below 10.000ft on nav attack so the B-17/B-24 won�t attack low level anyway (except USN heavy bombers). I usually have my Army 4Es on nav attack 10.000ft when I want to rest them, which usually is at least a day after they�ve flown an attack. Doing this not because I hope to achieve a hit with them (not even with nav skill 70) but to do a "bomber" sweep. If 50 heavy bombers are the first to engage a capped task force then they will whipe out most of the defending fighters and my other attack aircraft, like my dive bombers would have a field day after the heavies cleared the sky. This is only the theory of course. Unfortunetely this is aso pretty off IMO but that�s just how it works. When I�ll get my first USN heavy bomber squadrons early 43 then those crews will be trained in lownav too and they will be a major threat to the Japanese shipping I guess... having two dozen USN Liberators coming in at 2000ft, each dropping 10 x 500lb bombs will be quite dangerous for anything in the Japanese arsenal except BBs I guess.

I will have hundreds of bombers of all different types in mid 43 which I will expect to be very effective vs enemy shipping and except the divebombers, all of them will do attacks at altitudes of 1000 or 2000ft. They should be nearly as dangerous to ships as the Japanese Betty family, so as long as the Japanese can drop torps more or less everywhere (if the Japanese commander cares and thinks about) I will fly highly effective low level nav attacks. Not sure about strafing attacks with B-25s yet.

< Message edited by castor troy -- 5/6/2010 4:05:53 PM >

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 5/7/2010 9:37:09 AM

castor troy

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 27, 42
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ASW attack near Emirau Island at 108,115

Japanese Ships
DD Umikaze
DD Yugure
DD Hatsushima

Allied Ships
SS Stingray

SS Stingray is sighted by escort
DD Yugure fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hatsushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 99,129 (Buna)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 31
B-24D Liberator x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 50th Field AA Battalion ...
Also attacking 2nd Provisional Base Force ...
Also attacking 83rd Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...

I don�t give up doing those ground attacks, which in fact is pretty stupid as they�re just a waste of resources...

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Morning Air attack on 50th Field AA Battalion, at 99,129 (Buna)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12
B-24D Liberator x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking Maizuru 1st SNLF ...
Also attacking 50th Field AA Battalion ...

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Morning Air attack on Maizuru 1st SNLF, at 99,129 (Buna)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Maizuru 1st SNLF, at 99,129 (Buna)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Merauke at 89,124

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Kittyhawk IA sweeping at 15000 feet

CAP engaged:
3rd Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes

escorts from the same base fail to link up... no wonder, it�s hard enough when being on the same alt but more or less impossible if there�s an alt difference... costs us a Kittyhawk...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Merauke at 89,124

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Kittyhawk IA sweeping at 15000 feet

CAP engaged:
3rd Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

another Kittyhawk is lost, once again proves that you�re just better off in AE not to use fighters at all and send the bombers alone...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Merauke at 89,124

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 1 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 7
B-26 Marauder x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kyuei Maru, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Kyuei Maru caught transferring cargo ...

6 bomber, 5 hits... not bad but the small freighter was transferring cargo which makes it quite easy to hit... nevertheless, lownav attacks are the way to go...

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Sub attack near Taihoku at 88,62

Japanese Ships
xAK Koyu Maru
PB Konei Maru

Allied Ships
SS Grunion

SS Grunion launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Koyu Maru
Grunion diving deep ....
PB Konei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Konei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Konei Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Konei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Konei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

duds

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Sub attack near Shortlands at 111,130

Japanese Ships
xAK Daihachikyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Kyo Maru #7

Allied Ships
SS S-27

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

SS S-27 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Daihachikyo Maru
S-27 diving deep ....
PB Kyo Maru #7 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #7 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #7 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #7 attacking submerged sub ....
PB Kyo Maru #7 is out of ASW ammo
PB Kyo Maru #7 is out of ASW ammo
PB Kyo Maru #7 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

and a troop transport is hit...

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Submarine attack near Shortlands at 111,130

Japanese Ships
xAK Daihachikyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-27

xAK Daihachikyo Maru is sighted by SS S-27
SS S-27 launches 4 torpedoes

and finished...

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Ground combat at Buna (99,129)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26917 troops, 465 guns, 718 vehicles, Assault Value = 944

Defending force 13396 troops, 138 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 342

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 1022

Japanese adjusted defense: 2863

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1082 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 99 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
421 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled
Vehicles lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Assaulting units:
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
151st Combat Engineer Regiment
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
Americal Infantry Division
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
40th Infantry Division
5th RAA Coastal Artillery Regiment
I US Amphib Corps
2nd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
4th Division
83rd Naval Guard Unit
2nd Provisional Base Force
7th Naval Const Bn /287
50th Field AA Battalion
6th Naval Const Bn /294

obviously, it was well worth sending the combat engineers over the Kokoda trail... would they�ve been ordered to march with the Inf divs, Buna would have been taken two weeks ago at the latest...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 28, 42
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ASW attack near Shortlands at 110,132

Japanese Ships
PB Fumi Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS S-34

SS S-34 is sighted by escort
PB Fumi Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Fumi Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Fumi Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Fumi Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Fumi Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Lingga at 51,87

Japanese Ships
PB Kantori Maru

Allied Ships
SS KXVI

SS KXVI is sighted by escort
KXVI bottoming out ....
PB Kantori Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kantori Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kantori Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kantori Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kantori Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Mussau Island at 104,118

Japanese Ships
DD Yamagumo
DD Arare
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo

Allied Ships
SS KXIV

SS KXIV is sighted by escort
KXIV diving deep ....
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagumo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Minegumo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on 26th Indian Division, at 56,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 11000 feet

the usual Zero escort that fails to escort the bombers coming from the same base... this is just ridicoulos... how did this pass beta stage?

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Morning Air attack on 20th Indian Division, at 56,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 27
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 31
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 5 damaged
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 13 damaged

Allied ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 6 (0 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (0 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
31 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 23rd Indian Division ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 20th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 23rd Indian Division ...
Also attacking 20th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 23rd Indian Division ...
Also attacking 20th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 23rd Indian Division ...
Also attacking 20th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 23rd Indian Division ...
Also attacking 20th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 23rd Indian Division ...

then the bombers come in, as you can see, Rainer had his Zeroes at the same alt but with such a screwed feature you only get BS... When those Zeroes would have been ordered to fly escort for the bombers from the same base I can not see a reason why they wouldn�t be able to do so in 9 out of 10 times...

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 33
B-24D Liberator x 11

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 56

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 54th Division, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 28
B-24D Liberator x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...

our Army has nearly reached Katherine and the enemy took position already... we�re probably again facing the equivalent of six enemy divs...

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Morning Air attack on 54th Division, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

it�s a clear hex but I expect to see at least level 4 forts...

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 11
B-24D Liberator x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 16th Division, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6

No Allied losses

Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Buna (99,129)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1598 troops, 47 guns, 46 vehicles, Assault Value = 915

Defending force 12289 troops, 138 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 290

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
151st Combat Engineer Regiment
40th Infantry Division
Americal Infantry Division
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
5th RAA Coastal Artillery Regiment
I US Amphib Corps
2nd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
4th Division
83rd Naval Guard Unit
50th Field AA Battalion
2nd Provisional Base Force

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 29, 42
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Sub attack near Truk at 111,108

Japanese Ships
AO Shiriya
AO Teibo
AO Kyuko
AO Sata
AO Ondo
AO Hayamoto
DD Kuri

Allied Ships
SS Skipjack

SS Skipjack launches 4 torpedoes at AO Shiriya
DD Kuri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kuri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kuri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kuri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kuri fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

one hex West of Truk, either this AO TF is moving in to bring fuel or moving out to get some more... the usual duds...

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ASW attack near Amoy at 84,62

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 13
SC Ch 15
SC Ch 14

Allied Ships
SS Grunion, hits 2

SS Grunion is located by SC Ch 13
SC Ch 15 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 14 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Truk at 111,109

Japanese Ships
xAKL Ujigawa Maru
PB Sento Maru

Allied Ships
SS Seal

SS Seal launches 4 torpedoes at xAKL Ujigawa Maru
Seal diving deep ....
PB Sento Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sento Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sento Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sento Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sento Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Taihoku at 90,62

Japanese Ships
xAK Kinryu Maru
DD Tatsukaze

Allied Ships
SS Sunfish

SS Sunfish launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Kinryu Maru
Sunfish diving deep ....
DD Tatsukaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tatsukaze attacking submerged sub ....
SS Sunfish eludes ASW attack from DD Tatsukaze
DD Tatsukaze cannot establish contact with SS Sunfish
DD Tatsukaze cannot establish contact with SS Sunfish
DD Tatsukaze cannot reach attack position over SS Sunfish
DD Tatsukaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tatsukaze cannot establish contact with SS Sunfish
SS Sunfish eludes DD Tatsukaze by diving deep
SS Sunfish eludes ASW attack from DD Tatsukaze
DD Tatsukaze cannot establish contact with SS Sunfish
SS Sunfish eludes ASW attack from DD Tatsukaze
DD Tatsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tatsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 11

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Kanoya Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Tainan Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
3rd Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
5th Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...

ouch! There were more enemy fighters than I expected and the first pass of a Zero already downed a bomber... one was shot down by an Oscar during the replay... and I doubt that these attacks are causing any trouble to the enemy divisions...

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Morning Air attack on 5th Division, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
3rd Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
5th Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 16th Army ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Army ...

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Morning Air attack on 5th Division, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
3rd Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead

it was a severe hit today, we�ve lost 6 B-24 today, nearly a two weeks replacement... a real good day for the enemy fighter defense...

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Ground combat at Buna (99,129)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26747 troops, 465 guns, 718 vehicles, Assault Value = 924

Defending force 11926 troops, 138 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 289

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 721

Japanese adjusted defense: 405

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1025 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 59 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Allied ground losses:
213 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 15 (0 destroyed, 15 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Americal Infantry Division
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
151st Combat Engineer Regiment
40th Infantry Division
5th RAA Coastal Artillery Regiment
I US Amphib Corps
2nd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
4th Division
83rd Naval Guard Unit
50th Field AA Battalion
2nd Provisional Base Force

the battle at Buna is the bright side at the moment... there�s no doubt that the combat engineers were really needed and it�s only a matter of a couple of days to see the enemy at Buna being defeated... the enemy units are now reported being set to march North, but they won�t be able to move out of the hex early enough so I expect them being forced to retreat...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 30, 42
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Sub attack near Wewak at 97,119

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 10
SC Ch 5
xAKL Higari Maru
SC Ch 11

Allied Ships
SS KXIII

Captain of SS KXIII elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
KXIII diving deep ....
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

a pity...

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Kanoya Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
Tainan Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
3rd Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead

wanted to do something against the LRCAP over Katherine, therefore I�ve ordered the B-24 to attack Darwin but with the 90% bad weather the bombers can�t hit anything...

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 24
P-39D Airacobra x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x P-39D Airacobra sweeping at 15000 feet
14 x P-40E Warhawk sweeping at 15000 feet

CAP engaged:
1st Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead

as most of my heavy bombers are operating out of Alice Springs now, I�ve moved three dozen B-25 to Port Moresby to take over the airfield supression task... we trade a P-40 for a Zero... our fighters show up as sweeping?

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Kanoya Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Tainan Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 14

No Allied losses

Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 9 damaged

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
33 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

unfortunetely only big calibre flak can reach the enemy bombers...

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ASW attack near Palm Island at 93,143

Japanese Ships
SS I-176, hits 3

Allied Ships
AM Kalgoorlie, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
AM Shepparton
xAKL Pelton Bank
xAKL Oorama
xAKL Caledon
xAKL Patris
xAKL Meroendoeng
xAKL Honomu
xAKL Atlantic
xAKL Iowan
xAKL Georgian
AM Oriole
AM Wallaroo
AM Stawell

SS I-176 launches 6 torpedoes at AM Kalgoorlie
AM Oriole fails to find sub and abandons search
AM Wallaroo attacking submerged sub ....
AM Stawell fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Wallaroo fails to find sub and abandons search
AM Stawell fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Stawell fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Stawell fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Stawell fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Stawell fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

moving a convoy to Townsville losing a minesweeper...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 31, 42
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ASW attack near Manus at 99,118

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 10
SC Ch 5
xAKL Higari Maru
SC Ch 11

Allied Ships
SS Argonaut, hits 2

SS Argonaut is sighted by escort
Argonaut diving deep ....
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 11 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

useless Argonaut is attacked...

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Sub attack near Chefoo at 99,49

Japanese Ships
xAK Kumagawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1
xAK Kazuura Maru
xAK Brisbane Maru
E Hishu

Allied Ships
SS Tambor

SS Tambor launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Kumagawa Maru
Tambor bottoming out ....
E Hishu fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hishu fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hishu attacking submerged sub ....
E Hishu fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hishu fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

probably not a kill...

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Sub attack near Truk at 112,111

Japanese Ships
xAKL Ujigawa Maru
PB Sento Maru

Allied Ships
SS Gudgeon

SS Gudgeon launches 6 torpedoes at xAKL Ujigawa Maru
Gudgeon diving deep ....
PB Sento Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sento Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sento Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sento Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sento Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 11
P-39D Airacobra x 10
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x P-39D Airacobra sweeping at 15000 feet
7 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 10000 feet

CAP engaged:
1st Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Raid is overhead

only damaged fighters on both sides...

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 28

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet

CAP engaged:
1st Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Raid is overhead

my three B-25 squadrons should be easily enough to suppress Lae and Buna will soon be took off the target list anyway as I�m expecting the base to fall sooner than later... nothing but Lae in the area left that has got a built up airfield... the rest of the airfields are too small to be a threat...

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 15

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 9 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Kanoya Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
5th Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes

we just can�t hit something when the weather is bad all the time...

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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Kanoya Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
5th Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead

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ASW attack near Tandjoengpinang at 51,86

Japanese Ships
DD Mikazuki
DD Nagatsuki

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, hits 2

SS KXVI is sighted by escort
DD Mikazuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Nagatsuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Mikazuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mikazuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mikazuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mikazuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Ground combat at Buna (99,129)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26695 troops, 465 guns, 718 vehicles, Assault Value = 916

Defending force 10441 troops, 125 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 217

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 703

Japanese adjusted defense: 579

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1201 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 56 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 65 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
247 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Assaulting units:
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
151st Combat Engineer Regiment
40th Infantry Division
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
Americal Infantry Division
5th RAA Coastal Artillery Regiment
I US Amphib Corps
2nd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
4th Division
Maizuru 1st SNLF
83rd Naval Guard Unit
50th Field AA Battalion
2nd Provisional Base Force

one more attack and the enemy will be forced to retreat...

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Ground combat at Shwebo (59,45)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 84399 troops, 1189 guns, 2828 vehicles, Assault Value = 3167

Defending force 52830 troops, 590 guns, 753 vehicles, Assault Value = 1802

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 2911

Japanese adjusted defense: 1257

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3296 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 138 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 341 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 30 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 37 (2 destroyed, 35 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
3507 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 200 disabled
Non Combat: 36 destroyed, 436 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 88 disabled
Guns lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 278 (18 destroyed, 260 disabled)

Assaulting units:
73rd Motorised Brigade
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
6th Australian Division
7th Australian Division
2nd British Division
267th Armoured Brigade
255th Armoured Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
2/1 AIF Pioneer Battalion
254th Armoured Brigade
2/2 AIF Pioneer Battalion
43rd Cavalry Regiment
19th Indian Division
44th Cavalry Regiment
14th Indian Division
IV Indian Corps
XXXIII Indian Corps
48th Light AA Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
224 Group RAF
2/9th Field Regiment
2nd Ceylon H AA Regiment
6th Heavy AA Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
77th Heavy AA Regiment
22nd Light AA Regiment

Defending units:
6th Guards Division
38th Division
33rd Division
55th Cavalry Regiment
Guards Tank Division
35th Field AA Battalion
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
6th Field AF Construction Battalion
15th Army
27th JAAF AF Bn
85th JAAF AF Bn

the first attack at Shwebo goes in and we get an amazingly good result... the troops were 100% supplied and 100% prepped while the enemy obviously prepped for another target... our losses were acceptable and the enemy has ordered his troops to march to Mandalay now, I guess they will have marched out before we are able to kick them out which would be preferrable as this would shred the enemy divs... if he the enemy can fall back into a prepared position then it will be a hard task... got my 2000 av Army in the South crossing the river near Magwe soon... we�ve then got 3000av in the North and 2000av in the South with another 800 marching through the jungle at the moment... everything is 100% supplied...

so much about the theory and how it really is in the game... it�s no problem at all to supply ten thousands av through the jungle, you just can�t supply them in a friendly base... hey, now that is working well, could be the twin of the air coordination routine...

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Entering November and the war isn�t going too bad. Losses (especially ships) haven�t been severe at all. We�ve lost the usual territory, the usual LCUs but have been in the lead for air losses for months already and have established our positions on New Guinea again while the enemy hasn�t been able to build up a complex of bases near the front yet. Indian, Australian and British troops are marching into Burma and already have attacked there succesfully. The massed Tojos in Burma are causing us headache because together with the borked "coordination" routine it�s impossible to attack a base with four dozen Tojos it seems, therefore we�re going to mainly rely on our ground offensive and play a rather conservative air war in Burma.

I�ve sent Saratoga and POW back to Cape Town where they should arrive in the next two weeks for repairs of major flt damage. I�ve also set my naval forces in Australia to do their upgrades as I�m in the process of regrouping and preparing for the next step forward, so it shouldn�t be a problem to do those 21 day upgrades. Got enough surface forces and LBA to guard my ships under upgrade but I seriously doubt the enemy would dare to attack me in Australia anyway. The IJN tried once and lost 300 carrier based ac doing so.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 01, 42
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ASW attack near Kanoya at 103,63

Japanese Ships
DD Okikaze
SC CHa-41
PB Muroran Maru

Allied Ships
SS Sculpin

SS Sculpin is located by DD Okikaze
Sculpin diving deep ....
DD Okikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

seems like a mixed ASW TF...

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ASW attack near Truk at 111,109

Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Umikaze
DD Kawakaze

Allied Ships
SS Stingray

SS Stingray is sighted by escort
DD Umikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Umikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Umikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Umikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Umikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Tanegashima at 101,64

Japanese Ships
xAK Meiu Maru
xAK Kokai Maru
PB Kembu Maru

Allied Ships
SS Sculpin

SS Sculpin is sighted by escort
PB Kembu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kembu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kembu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kembu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kembu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Truk at 111,109

Japanese Ships
DD Shiranui
DD Amatsukaze

Allied Ships
SS Stingray

SS Stingray launches 4 torpedoes at DD Shiranui
DD Amatsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Amatsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Amatsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Amatsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Amatsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Tanegashima at 101,64

Japanese Ships
PB Kembu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Kokai Maru

Allied Ships
SS Sculpin

SS Sculpin launches 4 torpedoes at PB Kembu Maru
Sub escapes detection

I would have preferred to target the freighter...

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Submarine attack near Cooktown at 96,136

Japanese Ships
SS RO-62, hits 26, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Express
DD Encounter
DD Electra

SS RO-62 is sighted by escort
DD Express fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Encounter attacking submerged sub ....
DD Encounter attacking submerged sub ....
DD Encounter is out of ASW ammo
DD Encounter is out of ASW ammo
SS RO-62 forced to surface!
DD Encounter firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Electra firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Express firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Encounter firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Electra firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Express firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Electra firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Express firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Electra firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Express firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Encounter firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Electra firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Express firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Encounter firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Electra firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Express firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

another bugger is down... with all the ASW fighting going on so far, I would rate a British ASW TF of four DDs being five times more effective than a comparable USN TF... Encounter dropped all her depth charges and forced the bugger to surface where the sub was hit by dozens of 4.7 inch shells. This didn�t stop the sub from firing a torpedo salvo against one of the DDs though... the sub is sunk for sure... since I�ve employed British DDs on ASW duty the numbers of enemy subs between Townsville - Port Moresby - Milne Bay have gone down dramatically...

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Submarine attack near Rossel Island at 106,144

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
xAKL Morazan, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

xAKL Morazan is sighted by SS I-21
SS I-21 attacking on the surface
Kumagaya S. decides to submerge SS I-21 due to damage

a single xAKL that was moving the short but direct way from Australia to the Fidjis is caught by a sub...

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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 30000 feet

I had 200 fighters at Milne Bay yesterday covering the loading of a big TF and Rainer didn�t miss that so he has set some Zeroes to sweep the place... it took only one day to load the TF so also the fighters were gone again today so the Zeroes swept a more or less empty base... a pity in the end because I guess with 200 fighters we could have won this encounter against 27 Zeroes... I�m not really afraid of Zeroes anyway, it�s the Tojo that is really causing us headache...

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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 66 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 30000 feet

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Morning Air attack on 16th Division, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 27
B-17F Fortress x 19

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 18th Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Army ...
Also attacking 8th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...

heavy rain again, no damage... our Army has entered Katherine and with the total success last time I expect to see the Japanese attacking next turn... our troops are 100% prepped for Katherine and got 100% supply, hundreds of tanks and probably over 1000 artillery tubes...

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Morning Air attack on 5th Division, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Perth at 37,147

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 17
SBD-3 Dauntless x 15

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AMC Asaka Maru, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AMC Asaka Maru

my sneaky opponent has moved an AMC into the shipping lane to Perth but unfortunetely for him, exactly today Saratoga and POW left Perth after refuelling there and the AMC was spotted and sunk by Saratoga�s dive bombers... the AMC would have only found some minesweepers doing ASW in the area so it would probably have been fun to see the AMC attacking a bunch of minesweepers with their pop guns...

those IJN raiders don�t convince me to be really effective as raiders, I would just use them as troop transport, same as I do with the Allied AMCs. They are great to include them in amphibious TFs as they can effectively support the landings with their light cruiser sized armament... while I don�t know if you really need amphibious fire support anyway if the enemy doesn�t have dedicated CD guns...

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ASW attack near Laoag at 81,71

Japanese Ships
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships
SS Kingfish

SS Kingfish is sighted by escort
DD Hatakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Ground combat at Buna (99,129)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26450 troops, 465 guns, 717 vehicles, Assault Value = 894

Defending force 9327 troops, 118 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 160

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Allied adjusted assault: 418

Japanese adjusted defense: 207

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Buna !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4059 casualties reported
Squads: 129 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 192 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 34 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 41 (41 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Allied ground losses:
248 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (0 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
Americal Infantry Division
151st Combat Engineer Regiment
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
40th Infantry Division
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
5th RAA Coastal Artillery Regiment
I US Amphib Corps
2nd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
4th Division
Maizuru 1st SNLF
83rd Naval Guard Unit
50th Field AA Battalion
2nd Provisional Base Force

we finally conquer Buna, 4th Division should be more or less a wreck now... have set our two divs, a HQ and three combat eng units to pursue the enemy North... we�re in no hurry to conquer the area around Lae so we�re doing this by moving our troops overland from Buna... supplying them shouldn�t be a problem and we have to do something against the enemy troops in the hex North of Buna anyway... will be interesting if they�re gonna be able to move out before we move in... our two divisions are in good shape, one of them is down to 92/100 and the other one is at 90/100. Full support and enough supply should bring most of the disablements back during the march North. Buna will be built up but won�t be one of our first line bases as it�s just to exposed on that side of the coast...

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ASW attack near Port Moresby at 97,131

Japanese Ships
SS I-172, hits 1

Allied Ships
AM Horsham
xAKL Pelton Bank
xAKL Oorama
xAKL Caledon
xAKL Patris
xAKL Meroendoeng
xAKL Honomu
xAKL Atlantic
xAKL Iowan
xAKL Georgian
AM Oriole
AM Wallaroo
AM Stawell

SS I-172 launches 4 torpedoes at AM Horsham
I-172 diving deep ....
AM Oriole fails to find sub and abandons search
AM Wallaroo attacking submerged sub ....
AM Stawell attacking submerged sub ....
AM Stawell cannot establish contact with SS I-172
AM Wallaroo fails to find sub and abandons search
AM Stawell fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Stawell fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Stawell fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Stawell fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Stawell fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

resupply convoy going to Port Moresby is attacked but the sub missed... took a near miss in return...

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ASW attack near Milne Bay at 101,134

Japanese Ships
SS RO-64, hits 7, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Encounter
DD Express

SS RO-64 is located by DD Encounter
RO-64 diving deep ....
DD Express fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Encounter attacking submerged sub ....
DD Encounter cannot establish contact with SS RO-64
DD Encounter attacking submerged sub ....
Debris floats to surface in area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub

the Brits score again, after three hits and another four near misses the sub was sunk...

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20

Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 17

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 21 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
251 Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
202 Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
5th Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (5 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes

89-90% of the time there is bad weather on the whole map, no matter where...

doesn�t make sense to keep up with those attacks as we can�t hit anything anyway with ongoing bad weather... zzz

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
202 Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
5th Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
253 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead

unsustainable 4E losses for no gain at all... thanks weather model...

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Ground combat at Katherine (76,128)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5220 troops, 442 guns, 348 vehicles, Assault Value = 2671

Defending force 74159 troops, 720 guns, 641 vehicles, Assault Value = 2520

Japanese ground losses:
189 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 35 (23 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 66 (35 destroyed, 31 disabled)

stupid, nothing else...

Assaulting units:
2/4th Armoured Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
2/7th Armoured Regiment
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
2/11th Armoured Car Battalion
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
4th Australian Division
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
2/6th Armoured Regiment
5th Australian Division
3rd Motor Brigade
2/10th Armoured Regiment
4th Aus Cav Brigade
763rd Tank Battalion
3rd Australian Division
1st Australian Division
2nd Australian Division
193rd Tank Battalion
2/8th Armoured Regiment
3rd Army Tank Brigade
1st USMC Tank Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st Motor Brigade
209th Field Artillery Battalion
40th Field Artillery Regiment
16th RAAF Base Force
216th Coast AA Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
249th Field Artillery Battalion
94th Coast AA Regiment
198th Field Artillery Battalion
154th FA Bn
2nd RAAF M/W Sqn
2nd Australian Army
2nd RAN Base Force
4th Field Artillery Battalion
181st Field Artillery Regiment
198th Coast AA Regiment
96th Coast AA Regiment
I Australian Corps
503rd Coast AA Regiment
10th RAAF Base Force
1st Australian Army
30th Field Artillery Regiment
226th Field Artillery Battalion
188th Field Artillery Regiment
183rd Field Artillery Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
III Australian Corps
148th Field Artillery Battalion
1st RAN Base Force
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
21/22 Field Regiment
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
70th Coast AA Regiment
II Australian Corps
114th USAAF Base Force
197th Coast AA Regiment
205th Field Artillery Battalion
97th Field Artillery Battalion
13th Australian Hvy AA Regiment

Defending units:
54th Division
5th Division
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
21st Division
16th Division
18th Division
3rd Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
16th AA Regiment
16th Army
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion
40th JNAF AF Unit

seriously, the artillery routine as it stands now is just a joke... it�s "better"

than the funny nuke artillery but when I order my artillery to attack and have units being completely trashed and losing 60% of their strenght (yes, destroyed) then I wonder on what trip the devs are. I admit that it�s hard to get it right, but we�re so far off that it just hurts. Give me WITP artillery back and I stop crying but what we had pre patch and what we have now is so far off, even command & conquer would do it better...

when one side is doing a bombardment with far superior force and gets trashed on and on by "counterfire" then I wonder what has been smoked to think that this would be right... as many other people already have pointed out, it�s better not to have artillery at all now... sorry, but this is just off...

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Ground combat at Shwebo (59,45)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 79138 troops, 1167 guns, 2819 vehicles, Assault Value = 2938

Defending force 49879 troops, 590 guns, 751 vehicles, Assault Value = 1640

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 2630

Japanese adjusted defense: 1515

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4032 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 198 disabled
Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 276 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled
Guns lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 49 (10 destroyed, 39 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
958 casualties reported

Squads: 15 destroyed, 187 disabled
Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 418 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 40 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 301 (42 destroyed, 259 disabled)

Assaulting units:
267th Armoured Brigade
2/1 AIF Pioneer Battalion
44th Cavalry Regiment
43rd Cavalry Regiment
2nd British Division
50th Tank Brigade
19th Indian Division
73rd Motorised Brigade
2/2 AIF Pioneer Battalion
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
255th Armoured Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
6th Australian Division
7th Australian Division
14th Indian Division
8th Medium Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
6th Heavy AA Regiment
2nd Ceylon H AA Regiment
224 Group RAF
48th Light AA Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
77th Heavy AA Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
2/13th Field Regiment
IV Indian Corps
22nd Light AA Regiment

Defending units:
33rd Division
6th Guards Division
55th Cavalry Regiment
38th Division
Guards Tank Division
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
27th JAAF AF Bn
35th Field AA Battalion
15th Army
6th Field AF Construction Battalion
85th JAAF AF Bn

we succesfully attack at Shwebo again... I first thought this attack has cost us nothing when I saw our casualties being below 1000 but then noticed that the casualty number is totally off what really happened...

we had far more casualties than the enemy so I�ve got no idea what the combat report is bringing up here... FOW is one thing but it seems it makes the combat report more or less totally useless... the enemy is trying to march out and we�re going to try to kick him out as this is the only way to trash those divisions... if we�re able to force a retreat then this could be the first step to the collapse of the Japanese defense in Burma... not to forget the 2000av I�ve got further South (crossing the river tomorrow) and the reinforcements marching in... if this Japanese Army is forced to retreat and our Army South can hold against the couple of Japanese divs in that area then Rainer will be in trouble...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 03, 42
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ASW attack near Mussau Island at 104,118

Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Umikaze
DD Kawakaze

Allied Ships
SS KXIV

SS KXIV is sighted by escort
KXIV diving deep ....
DD Umikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kawakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Umikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 32

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x A6M3 Zero sweeping at 6000 feet *

this sweep was coming from Munda... Rabaul is completely filled up with fighters and some bombers, Shortlands and Munda also have considerable numbers of aircraft...

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 24
P-39D Airacobra x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 31
P-40K Warhawk x 10

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

the Mitchells do quite good even in bad weather...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Merauke at 89,124

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 11
B-26 Marauder x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PB Toko Maru #4, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet

Toko Maru #4 caught transferring cargo ...

and the low skilled Marauders score another kill... single PB going to Merauke, must be a fast transport TF bringing supply...

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 20

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 27

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

we had a Catalina damaged but that�s it... halve a dozen AA units and base forces can�t put up enough defense to hurt a strike at 11.000ft...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Merauke at 89,124

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 11
B-26 Marauder x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PB Toko Maru #4, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Toko Maru #4 caught transferring cargo ...

3 x 500lb bombs didn�t sink the vessel in the morning so the Marauders sortied again in the afternoon scoring a hit each... what makes me wonder is why are they armed with only 3 bombs each? Range is four, airfield size is 6, not overstacked... normal loadout is 6 x 500lb bombs so is there a special rule I�ve missed for lownav attacks using only reduced load or what? When the hit rate stays that high with reduced load then I don�t need normal load anyway but it would be nice to know why those bombers attack with only three instead of six bombs...

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Ground combat at Shwebo (59,45)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 75344 troops, 1167 guns, 2801 vehicles, Assault Value = 2740

Defending force 46741 troops, 590 guns, 741 vehicles, Assault Value = 1462

Allied adjusted assault: 2271

Japanese adjusted defense: 687

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4626 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 237 disabled
Non Combat: 33 destroyed, 298 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 43 (17 destroyed, 26 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
952 casualties reported

Squads: 24 destroyed, 107 disabled
Non Combat: 49 destroyed, 401 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 50 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 295 (24 destroyed, 271 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2/2 AIF Pioneer Battalion
73rd Motorised Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
44th Cavalry Regiment
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
6th Australian Division
43rd Cavalry Regiment
267th Armoured Brigade
255th Armoured Brigade
2/1 AIF Pioneer Battalion
19th Indian Division
254th Armoured Brigade
2nd British Division
7th Australian Division
14th Indian Division
2/11th Field Regiment
48th Light AA Regiment
6th Heavy AA Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
2nd Ceylon H AA Regiment
77th Heavy AA Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
IV Indian Corps
224 Group RAF
2/13th Field Regiment
22nd Light AA Regiment

Defending units:
6th Guards Division
55th Cavalry Regiment
33rd Division
38th Division
Guards Tank Division
35th Field AA Battalion
6th Field AF Construction Battalion
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Army
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
27th JAAF AF Bn
85th JAAF AF Bn

that one was close... would the combat engineers have been able to take down a fort level then the 3:1 would have been enough to kick the enemy out of the hex... we�re fully supplied and most of my units will attack again tomorrow, hopefully achieving the 2:1 needed to force the enemy to retreat... we will then have enough time to get back to strenght again as the enemy will have lost far more casualties in the battle for Shwebo than we did...

the number of Allied casualties is again totally off it seems... don�t know how this is calculated, we should have at least the same number of casualties showing up as the Japanese... escpecially our support squads are hit hard all the time but we took very light losses in combat squads today... I can only hope that tomorrow�s attack will be a full success and that the enemy won�t have moved out again...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 04, 42
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ASW attack near Truk at 110,108

Japanese Ships
PB Sonan Maru #5
PB Shuko Maru #5

Allied Ships
SS Skipjack

SS Skipjack is located by PB Sonan Maru #5
Skipjack diving deep ....
PB Shuko Maru #5 fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Sonan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sonan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sonan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sonan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sonan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sonan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Iriomote at 88,68

Japanese Ships
xAK Alaska Maru
xAK Eihuku Maru
DD Tawakaze

Allied Ships
SS Gato

SS Gato launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Alaska Maru
Gato diving deep ....
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Truk at 111,108

Japanese Ships
DD Hayate
AO Toho Maru
AO Shinkoku Maru
AO Ken'yo Maru
DD Myojinami

Allied Ships
SS Skipjack

SS Skipjack launches 4 torpedoes at DD Hayate
DD Myojinami fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hayate fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hayate fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hayate fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hayate attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hayate fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hayate fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Port Moresby at 96,133

Japanese Ships
SS I-172

Allied Ships
DD Express
DD Encounter

SS I-172 is sighted by escort
DD Express fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Express fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Express fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Express fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Express fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Express fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Daito Shoto at 101,68

Japanese Ships
TK Hirota Maru
PB Daiya Maru

Allied Ships
SS Gunnel

SS Gunnel is sighted by escort
Gunnel diving deep ....
PB Daiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Daiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Daiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Daiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Daiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Rambutyo at 103,120

Japanese Ships
DD Yamakaze
DD Samidare
DD Umikaze
DD Kawakaze

Allied Ships
SS KXII, hits 1

SS KXII launches 4 torpedoes at DD Yamakaze
DD Umikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kawakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Merauke , at 89,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 41
B-17F Fortress x 22
B-24D Liberator x 22

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 26
Port hits 19
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

lots of port hits but bad weather keeps us from hitting the airfield...

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 48
B-25C Mitchell x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
286 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (5 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes

Training flight from 286 Ku S-1 has been caught up in attack

same here... after 8 days of not flying this attack due to bad weather, the bombers finally took off and the enemy had only some Zeroes on training... nevertheless they take some of our bombers down... the weather in this game is making me sick...

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 99,128

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 24
P-39D Airacobra x 10
P-40K Warhawk x 10

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 2nd Provisional Base Force /331 ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Provisional Base Force /331 ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Provisional Base Force /331 ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Provisional Base Force /331 ...

clear sky but not one casualty... trying to slow down the retreat of the ex defenders of Buna... won�t work with the inability to hit something in non clear hexes...

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Morning Air attack on 83rd Naval Guard Unit, at 99,128

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 10

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
286 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on 26th Indian Division, at 56,49

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 11000 feet

failed escort attempts... stupid air routines...

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Afternoon Air attack on 26th Indian Division, at 56,49

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 11 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

bombers then coming alone... stupid airroutines... would be cool to say non working air routines but this is wad which can only make you shake your head...
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Ground combat at Shwebo (59,45)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 68423 troops, 1103 guns, 2595 vehicles, Assault Value = 2613

Defending force 43198 troops, 590 guns, 726 vehicles, Assault Value = 1262

Allied adjusted assault: 1928

Japanese adjusted defense: 867

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3962 casualties reported
Squads: 60 destroyed, 187 disabled
Non Combat: 24 destroyed, 244 disabled
Engineers: 20 destroyed, 31 disabled
Vehicles lost 38 (14 destroyed, 24 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
919 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 72 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 168 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 136 (17 destroyed, 119 disabled)

Assaulting units:
254th Armoured Brigade
6th Australian Division
73rd Motorised Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
7th Australian Division
43rd Cavalry Regiment
2/2 AIF Pioneer Battalion
19th Indian Division
44th Cavalry Regiment
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
255th Armoured Brigade
2/1 AIF Pioneer Battalion
267th Armoured Brigade
2nd British Division
14th Indian Division
6th Heavy AA Regiment
224 Group RAF
2nd Ceylon H AA Regiment
77th Heavy AA Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
8th Medium Regiment
IV Indian Corps
2/11th Field Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
48th Light AA Regiment
22nd Light AA Regiment

Defending units:
6th Guards Division
38th Division
55th Cavalry Regiment
33rd Division
Guards Tank Division
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
27th JAAF AF Bn
6th Field AF Construction Battalion
15th Army
35th Field AA Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
85th JAAF AF Bn

we�re constantly attacking now, if the enemy hasn�t moved out tomorrow I expect them to be kicked out...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 05, 42
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ASW attack near Port Moresby at 97,131

Japanese Ships
SS I-172

Allied Ships
DD Decoy
DD Express
DD Encounter

SS I-172 is located by DD Decoy
I-172 diving deep ....
DD Express fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Encounter fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Colombo at 28,46

Japanese Ships
SS I-158, hits 3, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Preston
DD Thanet
DD Tenedos

SS I-158 launches 8 torpedoes at DD Preston
I-158 diving deep ....
DD Thanet fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tenedos attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

it isn�t a good idea to attack British DDs...

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ASW attack near Palm Island at 93,143

Japanese Ships
SS I-176, hits 13

Allied Ships
DD Morris
DD Nepal
DD Fortune

SS I-176 is sighted by escort
DD Nepal fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Fortune fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fortune fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fortune fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fortune fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fortune attacking submerged sub ....
DD Fortune attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

same here even though we only score near misses...

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Sub attack near Port Moresby at 97,131

Japanese Ships
SS I-172

Allied Ships
xAKL Lorinna, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
AM Junee
AM Ipswitch
xAKL Kindur
xAKL Karuah
xAKL Corrimal
xAKL Siaoe
xAKL Surigao
xAKL Prusa
xAKL Montanes
xAKL Bisayas
xAKL Argus
xAKL Nevadan
AM Mirimichi
AM Bellechasse

SS I-172 launches 4 torpedoes at xAKL Lorinna
AM Mirimichi fails to find sub and abandons search
AM Bellechasse fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Bellechasse attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

small supply freighter is sunk...

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ASW attack near Truk at 111,109

Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Umikaze
DD Kawakaze

Allied Ships
SS Spearfish

SS Spearfish is sighted by escort
Spearfish diving deep ....
DD Umikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Umikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Umikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Umikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Umikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Port Moresby at 97,131

Japanese Ships
SS RO-60, hits 3

Allied Ships
DD Encounter
DD Express

SS RO-60 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Encounter
DD Express attacking submerged sub ....
DD Encounter fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Express fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Express fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Express fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Express attacking submerged sub ....
SS RO-60 eludes DD Express by diving deep
DD Express cannot establish contact with SS RO-60
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Truk at 111,108

Japanese Ships
PB Tama Maru #8
PB Shuko Maru #5
PB Sonan Maru #5

Allied Ships
SS Skipjack

SS Skipjack launches 4 torpedoes at PB Tama Maru #8
PB Shuko Maru #5 fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Sonan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sonan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sonan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sonan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sonan Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Sangi at 76,96

Japanese Ships
AO Hayamoto
AO Teibo
AO Kyuko
AO Shiriya
AO Sata
AO Ondo
AO Iro
DD Kuri

Allied Ships
SS Permit

SS Permit launches 4 torpedoes at AO Hayamoto
Permit diving deep ....
DD Kuri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kuri attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kuri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kuri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kuri fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

the AOs from Truk are entering the SRA...

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 99,128

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 23
P-39D Airacobra x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 15
P-40K Warhawk x 20

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 82nd Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 82nd Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 82nd Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 82nd Naval Guard Unit ...

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Morning Air attack on 2nd Provisional Base Force, at 99,128

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Shwebo (59,45)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 71012 troops, 1167 guns, 2763 vehicles, Assault Value = 2557

Defending force 38662 troops, 580 guns, 716 vehicles, Assault Value = 1064

Allied adjusted assault: 1896

Japanese adjusted defense: 933

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Shwebo !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
14755 casualties reported
Squads: 277 destroyed, 75 disabled
Non Combat: 783 destroyed, 130 disabled
Engineers: 211 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 211 (193 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 480 (480 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 10

Allied ground losses:
512 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 49 disabled
Non Combat: 58 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Vehicles lost 100 (52 destroyed, 48 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
43rd Cavalry Regiment
7th Australian Division
50th Tank Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
2/1 AIF Pioneer Battalion
44th Cavalry Regiment
19th Indian Division
2/2 AIF Pioneer Battalion
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
73rd Motorised Brigade
6th Australian Division
255th Armoured Brigade
267th Armoured Brigade
2nd British Division
14th Indian Division
6th Heavy AA Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
IV Indian Corps
224 Group RAF
48th Light AA Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
77th Heavy AA Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
2nd Ceylon H AA Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
22nd Light AA Regiment

Defending units:
33rd Division
6th Guards Division
55th Cavalry Regiment
38th Division
Guards Tank Division
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
35th Field AA Battalion
15th Army
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
6th Field AF Construction Battalion
85th JAAF AF Bn

YEAH! We take Shwebo and the enemy divisions are trashed... 6th Guards Division showed up with 0 assault value during the replay so I guess this unit is in a very bad shape now. I�ve said it often enough, also outside of this AAR, you can move as many units into Burma and fully supply them without any problem. IMO this move should not be possible at all and just proves how the supply routine is working. Sorry, I would like to say something different but it�s just yet another thing that is not working. No matter how many theoretical calculations one of the devs is doing in his AAR, you can move as much supply to your troops as is needed. You can�t supply them in a friendly base but you can 400 miles deep into the jungle. I wonder if the Japanese can do something against the loss of Burma now. At this date I should not be able at all to do such a move.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 06, 42
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ASW attack near Truk at 112,113

Japanese Ships
DD Tagonami

Allied Ships
SS Grayling

SS Grayling is sighted by escort
Grayling diving deep ....
DD Tagonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tagonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tagonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tagonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tagonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Channel Islands at 223,78

Japanese Ships
SS I-6, hits 2

Allied Ships
PC Crawford
PC Morris
KV Dawson
KV Chilliwack

SS I-6 launches 4 torpedoes at PC Crawford
I-6 diving deep ....
KV Dawson fails to find sub, continues to search...
KV Chilliwack fails to find sub, continues to search...
KV Dawson fails to find sub, continues to search...
KV Chilliwack fails to find sub and abandons search
KV Dawson attacking submerged sub ....
KV Dawson fails to find sub, continues to search...
KV Dawson fails to find sub, continues to search...
KV Dawson fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

a hit and a near miss, the sub is sitting off LA...

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Sub attack near Wakkanai at 123,48

Japanese Ships
xAK Sekiho Maru
PB Tokihime Maru

Allied Ships
SS Runner, hits 1

SS Runner launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Sekiho Maru
Runner bottoming out ....
PB Tokihime Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tokihime Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tokihime Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tokihime Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tokihime Maru attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Aogashima at 112,67

Japanese Ships
xAK Hakodate Maru
PB Atsu Maru

Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon

SS Sturgeon launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Hakodate Maru
Sturgeon diving deep ....
PB Atsu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Atsu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Atsu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Atsu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Atsu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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and now the stupidity starts again... AGAIN!

Morning Air attack on 1st South India Base Force, at 56,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 23

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 20
P-40B Warhawk x 8
P-40E Warhawk x 40

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
343rd FG/11th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
51st FG/16th FS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
51st FG/26th FS with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
8th FG/35th FS with P-39D Airacobra (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
23rd FG/75th FS with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
70th FS with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes

got 180 fighters at Akyab to fly Cap over a supply convoy, the leak three hexes and get shot to pieces... this air routine is just stupid... 70 skill, they�re dived endlessly and shot to pieces, kill rate 10:1+... hey, we only outnumber the enemy 3:1... stupid air routine...

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Morning Air attack on 1st South India Base Force, at 56,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 9
P-40B Warhawk x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 26

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
343rd FG/11th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
51st FG/16th FS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
51st FG/26th FS with P-40E Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
8th FG/35th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
70th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
23rd FG/75th FS with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes

the enemy gets a completely screwed sweep when looking at the coordination but one stupid part of the airroutine meets another stupid one... outnumbering the enemy 4:1, being endlessly dived on, shot to pieces 7:0... stupid air routines...

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Morning Air attack on 20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment, at 56,49

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 11000 feet

another escort attempt that failed... stupid airroutine...

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Morning Air attack on 23rd Indian Division, at 56,49

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 11000 feet

more of the same... stupid airroutine...

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Morning Air attack on 20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment, at 56,49

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 27
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 31
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 8 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (0 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
31 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
3 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 26th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 23rd Indian Division ...
Also attacking 20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Division ...

then the bombers coming alone... stupid airroutine...

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Morning Air attack on 20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment, at 56,49

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 13 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 26th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...

more unescorted bombers... stupid airroutine...

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Morning Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 27
B-17F Fortress x 14
B-24D Liberator x 21

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

clear sky but not hitting a lot...

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Morning Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 10

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 1st South India Base Force, at 56,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 5
P-40B Warhawk x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 19

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
343rd FG/11th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
51st FG/16th FS with P-40B Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead
51st FG/26th FS with P-40E Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
8th FG/35th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
70th FS with P-40E Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
23rd FG/75th FS with P-40E Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead

not that the Oscar would be the only unit, of course the UBER Tojos are coming also... not coordinated but that won�t change anything about the stupid air routine... being dived on endlessly... skill 70 blah blah blah... 9:0... stupid air routine...

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Morning Air attack on 1st South India Base Force, at 56,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 10

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet

hey! Nothing left to take out?

This turn is just one of many examples that pisses me off on and on. In five years of playing WITP I have not seen so many stupid results as in playing AE for five months and I can only repeat myselve that I perfectly go with what a beta tester said: the airroutine is the most borked routine of all! But what gets me even more fed up are those stupid explanations about everything that is just plain wrong and has nothing to do with reality but are only coming out of the mouth of the super ego called air team leader. I�m glad I had all those fighters on different altitudes, otherwise someone would come up with the advise: no wonder, you�re doing it wrong, you need layered Cap.

The devs haven�t been paid? Heck, I�ve spent 60 bucks for this game and all I can say is that I hope that at least some of them will never get a single cent of my money. Some of them definetely deserve to be paid, but when I look at the airroutine and the ego on the forum then I only get sick! But hey, it�s been a long time since he has fired up the game the last time. Ridicoulos from A to Z.

42:5 for the Japanese being totally outnumbered. My pilots are all skill 70. Such a result would have never happened in real life but they happen in this broken piece of BS all the time. On and on and on loopsided results. And when I look at the threads on the main forum then it only makes me sick that WITP was "upgraded" with some nice features, a great map, OOB and a perfectly working wide screen mode but also made a lot of the most important routines to something I only call BS! BS par excellence.

No surprise the development was nothing but bitching around, quit and come back.

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I�m still pissed by last turn as I just can�t believe that the air routine constantly brings up such BS

so I�m not really spending a lot of time doing my turns at the moment. Amazingly enough that a computer game is frustrating me, guess PBEM is the factor here.

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ASW attack near Manus at 103,119

Japanese Ships
DD Yamagumo
DD Asagumo
DD Tachekaze
DD Kasumi
DD Arare

Allied Ships
SS KXIV

SS KXIV launches 2 torpedoes at DD Yamagumo
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kasumi fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare attacking submerged sub ....
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

I have to check the accuracy ratings of the different torps because I can�t figure out why the Mk-14 torp salvoes got a hit rate far above 90% while the rest of the torps is far behind...

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Sub attack near Sapporo at 118,50

Japanese Ships
xAK Hankow Maru
PB Yamabato Maru

Allied Ships
SS Runner

SS Runner launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Hankow Maru
PB Yamabato Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yamabato Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yamabato Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yamabato Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Yamabato Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Orchid Island at 86,68

Japanese Ships
E Hayabusa
E Otori
E Kari

Allied Ships
SS Grouper

SS Grouper is located by E Hayabusa
Grouper diving deep ....
E Kari fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hayabusa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hayabusa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hayabusa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hayabusa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hayabusa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hayabusa fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on 23rd Indian Division, at 56,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 11000 feet

failed escort attempt... again? hey, can�t be, the airroutine works so well...

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Morning Air attack on 23rd Indian Division, at 56,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 27
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 16 damaged

Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 26th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 23rd Indian Division ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 23rd Indian Division ...

and the unescorted bombers... either I�m nuts or most people just keep their eyes closed...

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 99,128

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 24
P-40K Warhawk x 10

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 2nd Provisional Base Force /331 ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Provisional Base Force /331 ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Provisional Base Force /331 ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Provisional Base Force /331 ...

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Morning Air attack on 82nd Naval Guard Unit, at 99,128

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 15
P-40K Warhawk x 10

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

amazingly enough, my PM bombers get escorts... none of my Army fighters are set to the same alt or the same HQ but they escort the bombers... got four USMC fighter squadrons set to the same alt and escort but of course none is flying at any time... I hate the air routines as they�re just borked...

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Morning Air attack on 26th Indian Division, at 56,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

all IJAAF strikes came in unescorted... got two or three messages of Zeroes failing their escort attempt... same base, same alt, 5 hexes range...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 101,134

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 7 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Bordvik, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Agnes

Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

that was a surprising one, well done! We were lucky that the Betties focused on only two ships scoring three hits on one of the small transports... strike was coming from Munda, don�t have fighters at Milne Bay as they would just get shredded at 10:1 or higher by the UBER fighters of the Japanese... the fact that all my fighters are flown by 70 skilled pilots doesn�t help at all as could be seen last turn... give me WITP�s results please as they were spot on compared to the stupid AE loops all the time...

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ASW attack near San Francisco at 215,73

Japanese Ships
SS I-36

Allied Ships
AM Guysborough
AM Bayfield
AM Caraquet

SS I-36 is located by AM Guysborough
I-36 diving deep ....
AM Guysborough fails to find sub and abandons search
AM Caraquet fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Caraquet fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Caraquet fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Caraquet fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Caraquet fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

guess next time I�m going to move a capitol ship in or out near the West Coast it will be hit again...

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Sub attack near Wewak at 97,119

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 10
SC Ch 6
SC Ch 5
xAKL Higari Maru
SC Ch 11

Allied Ships
SS O23

SS O23 launches 4 torpedoes at SC Ch 10
O23 diving deep ....
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

would be cool I could get the dud rate of the Dutch torps and the hit rate of US Mk-14 torps...

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quote:

Ground combat at Shwebo (59,45)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 84399 troops, 1189 guns, 2828 vehicles, Assault Value = 3167

Defending force 52830 troops, 590 guns, 753 vehicles, Assault Value = 1802

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3 ********************

Allied adjusted assault: 2911

Japanese adjusted defense: 1257

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3 ********************[/quote

Only me that finds this strange???
I will admit that my brain is completely worn out today, but this seems wrong to me...

Terje

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quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439

quote:

Ground combat at Shwebo (59,45)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 84399 troops, 1189 guns, 2828 vehicles, Assault Value = 3167

Defending force 52830 troops, 590 guns, 753 vehicles, Assault Value = 1802

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3 ********************

Allied adjusted assault: 2911

Japanese adjusted defense: 1257

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3 ********************

Only me that finds this strange???
I will admit that my brain is completely worn out today, but this seems wrong to me...

Terje

note that the fort at the beginning of the battle was four and engineers took down a fort level already before getting the adjusted av. When the engineers take a fort down then a 2:1 (or better) doesn�t take down another fort level. If the engineers fail to reduce the forts then a 2:1 (or better) in a deliberate attack takes down one fort level. If you do a shock attack and you get a 4:1 for example then you take down the forts by 3 levels. IIRC it has always been like this also in WITP.

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Yes, Burma sucks totally. It is not really possible IRL for Allies to supply such masssive army there.

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ORIGINAL: Swenslim

Yes, Burma sucks totally. It is not really possible IRL�for Allies to supply such masssive army there.

the supply routine as it is now really is borked and while it really harms you in China where you can�t supply your units at all when they�re sitting in base hexes (supply only available outside) it�s an advantage for the Allied in Burma for example when they can just move through the jungle while being fully supplied. I neither like the China situation nor the situation in Burma.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 08, 42
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ASW attack near Amoy at 84,62

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 3
SC Ch 15
SC Ch 14

Allied Ships
SS Sunfish

SS Sunfish is located by SC Ch 3
SC Ch 15 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 14 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Laoag at 80,71

Japanese Ships
E Yaeyama

Allied Ships
SS Gunnel

SS Gunnel is sighted by escort
E Yaeyama fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Yaeyama fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Yaeyama fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Yaeyama fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Yaeyama fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub vs Sub: SS S-27 attacking SS I-27 at 110,132 - near Shortlands
Japanese Ships
SS I-27, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-27

SS S-27 launches 4 torpedoes at 2,000 yards

first sub on sub in the war... so far we only had sighted enemy subs but they dove before we engaged them... today we succesfully engage I-27 in the Solomons, the sub is sunk (got a Glen destroyed on the ground so I�m sure about it)...

the combat replay looked strange though, anyone else having it displayed like this? Everything else is displayed just fine...

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ASW attack near Moppo at 99,53

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-41
DD Okikaze
PB Muroran Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tambor

SS Tambor is sighted by escort
Tambor bottoming out ....
DD Okikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Submarine attack near Queenstown at 79,178

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
xAK Masula, Torpedo hits 1

xAK Masula is sighted by SS I-21
SS I-21 launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Masula

empty convoy going back to Cape Town (coming from Tasmania) is attacked but the big freighter has a fair chance to make Hobart port with 45 flt (24 major)... no escort for this convoy as it was pretty safe so far to move from Cape Town into this region with differing waypoints...

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Sub attack near Dadjangas at 80,94

Japanese Ships
xAK Teiryu Maru
PB Gamitsu Maru #1

Allied Ships
SS Gar

SS Gar launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Teiryu Maru
Gar diving deep ....
PB Gamitsu Maru #1 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Gamitsu Maru #1 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Gamitsu Maru #1 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Gamitsu Maru #1 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Gamitsu Maru #1 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Truk at 111,109

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsuharu
DD Yugure
DD Hatsushima

Allied Ships
SS Seal

SS Seal is sighted by escort
Seal diving deep ....
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsushima fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugure attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on 23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment, at 56,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 11000 feet

failed escort... ridicoulos air routine...

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Morning Air attack on 23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment, at 56,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 16
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 13 damaged

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 20th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...

while the Zeroes from the same base fail to escort the bombers day after day, these Helens are now escorted from Tojos from Mandalay, a base some 500 miles from where the bombers are coming from...

ridicoulos air routine... unfortunetely such BS can�t be fixed with a mod, only code changes would do the trick... it�s a feature, a ridicoulos one...

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Morning Air attack on 23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment, at 56,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 11 damaged

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

same here, the Oscars are based 500 miles away from the bombers but they manage to escort them while the Zeroes from the same base fail daily... I wonder how empty ones head must be when you ignore the game�s result on and on and keep on saying everything is just fine... it may be working as designed but then one should just get over his ego and admit that it�s BS...

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Morning Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 25
B-17F Fortress x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
C5M2 Babs: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 41

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

I�m thinking about moving a couple of dozen 4Es to Port Moresby which is a level 9 airfield.. that way we could attack targets like Gasmata with a full bomb load... the bases around Cairns are already quite far away from our main targets...

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Morning Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 9

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shortlands , at 109,131

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 2 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 36

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
801 Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

while Munda seems to house lots of bombers and fighters, Shortlands was reported to be more or less empty... only some float fighters engaged our bombers today but they were not threat...

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Morning Air attack on Shortlands , at 109,131

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 50th Field AA Battalion, at 99,128

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 36
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 82nd Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 50th Field AA Battalion ...
Also attacking 82nd Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 50th Field AA Battalion ...
Also attacking 82nd Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 50th Field AA Battalion ...
Also attacking 82nd Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...

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Morning Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 11

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 26th Indian Division, at 56,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 11000 feet

more of the failed escort attempts... how stupid is this really? I can�t wait for the next time when someone asks for evidence of the air routines being rubbish... pages full of evidence in this AAR alone, a pity there aren�t really a lot people posting every single combat report as this would show infinite evidence...

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Afternoon Air attack on 26th Indian Division, at 56,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 18

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 35000 feet

those seem to have been actually sweeping... at least there was no message about fighters failing to link up with the bombers...

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Afternoon Air attack on 26th Indian Division, at 56,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 39
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
30 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

bombers from Rangoon get fighter escorts from Mandalay, Rangoon�s Zeroes fail a couple of times each day... a broken piece of programming...

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Sub attack near Talaud-eilanden at 81,96

Japanese Ships
TK Fukoku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Shinetsu Maru
PB Teiko Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tautog

SS Tautog launches 4 torpedoes at TK Fukoku Maru
PB Teiko Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Teiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Teiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Teiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Teiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

a small tanker full of oil is left burning heavily...

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ASW attack near Toyohara at 124,48

Japanese Ships
PB Yachiyo Maru

Allied Ships
SS Shad

SS Shad is sighted by escort
PB Yachiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yachiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yachiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yachiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yachiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Iba at 77,75

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-20
SC CHa-23

Allied Ships
SS Pollack

SS Pollack launches 4 torpedoes at SC CHa-20
SC CHa-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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2/3 of a Rufe chutai destroyed on the ground if the numbers are correct. Our massed flak in Burma that should protect our Army is far from being really effective but usually destroys a couple of bombers. Two of the new P-40K were lost flying two hexes LRCAP over our British destroyers near Milne Bay as I saw a chance of another Betty strike out of Munda...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 09, 42
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ASW attack near Truk at 111,109

Japanese Ships
DD Asagumo
DD Tachekaze
DD Kasumi
DD Arare

Allied Ships
SS Seal

SS Seal is sighted by escort
Seal diving deep ....
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kasumi attacking submerged sub ....
DD Arare fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kasumi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kasumi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kasumi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kasumi fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

It seems that the Japanese are relying completely on fast transport missions for their bases South of Truk... with system and engine damage being fixed in only a couple of days at a big port it shouldn�t be a problem to keep his DDs ready all the time...

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Sub attack near Saishu To at 99,56

Japanese Ships
xAK Wakatu Maru
xAK Syoryu Maru
xAK Liverpool Maru
PB Nichiro Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tambor

SS Tambor launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Wakatu Maru
Tambor diving deep ....
PB Nichiro Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Nichiro Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Nichiro Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Nichiro Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Nichiro Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Tanegashima at 102,63

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-38
SC CHa-39

Allied Ships
SS Haddo, hits 1

SS Haddo is located by SC CHa-38
SC CHa-39 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-39 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-39 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-39 attacking submerged sub ....
SC CHa-39 is out of ASW ammo
SC CHa-39 is out of ASW ammo
SC CHa-39 is out of ASW ammo
SC CHa-39 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

near miss...

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ASW attack near Colombo at 27,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-159, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Tenedos
DD Preston
DD Thanet

SS I-159 launches 8 torpedoes at DD Tenedos
DD Thanet fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tenedos attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tenedos fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

another attack on our ASW TF near Ceylon... torps missed, only a near miss in return...

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ASW attack near Ominato at 118,52

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-2
SC CHa-18

Allied Ships
SS Runner

SS Runner is located by SC CHa-2
Runner diving deep ....
SC CHa-18 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-18 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-18 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-18 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-18 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Deboyne Islands at 103,136

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Decoy
DD Encounter
DD Express
DD Electra

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

glad that the enemy gets the same bad weather as we do usually... as we�ve spotted a small enemy TF at Shortlands and only had the British destroyers in the area I�ve ordered them to move in during the night to engage the expected PB or small freighter(s)... unfortunetely the enemy spotted our approach, suspended loading and moved out before we could catch them... our DDs were ordered to move back to Milne Bay but they move more South than West and ended up 4 hexes South East of Milne Bay and to make it worse, I�ve stood my P-40K down also... fortunetely all torps missed the agile targets...

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Sub attack near Cooktown at 93,139

Japanese Ships
SS I-33

Allied Ships
DD Nepal
DD Morris
DD Fortune

SS I-33 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Nepal
I-33 diving deep ....
DD Nepal fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Fortune fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fortune fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fortune fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fortune fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fortune fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fortune fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

torps missed, destroyers failed to locate the enemy sub... while the enemy subs were highly succesful in attacking our heavily escorted capitol ships, they mostly did their attacks when stumbling into our TFs in the middle of nowhere and not in the areas I�m heavily patrolling with ASW TFs so I�m not sure if it�s worth it to keep the IJN subs in these areas as they usually fight my ASW TFs and so far paid for at least 2 subs lost for each destroyer being sunk by subs...

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Sub attack near Sapporo at 118,50

Japanese Ships
PB Fumi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Kyokuzan Maru
xAK Toko Maru

Allied Ships
SS Runner

SS Runner launches 4 torpedoes at PB Fumi Maru
Runner diving deep ....
Sub escapes detection

the escort is obliberated and the freighters moved on...

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Ground combat at Shwebo (59,45)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 84399 troops, 1189 guns, 2828 vehicles, Assault Value = 3167

Defending force 52830 troops, 590 guns, 753 vehicles, Assault Value = 1802

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3 ********************

Allied adjusted assault: 2911

Japanese adjusted defense: 1257

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3 ********************

Only me that finds this strange???
I will admit that my brain is completely worn out today, but this seems wrong to me...

Terje

note that the fort at the beginning of the battle was four and engineers took down a fort level already before getting the adjusted av. When the engineers take a fort down then a 2:1 (or better) doesn�t take down another fort level. If the engineers fail to reduce the forts then a 2:1 (or better) in a deliberate attack takes down one fort level. If you do a shock attack and you get a 4:1 for example then you take down the forts by 3 levels. IIRC it has always been like this also in WITP.

Hmm this was actually new to me, but then again only having played the Allies untill the end of -42 I have not had too many chances to attack

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 10, 42
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ASW attack near Flinders Island at 84,177

Japanese Ships
SS I-10, hits 1

Allied Ships
SC-706
SC-704

SS I-10 is sighted by escort
I-10 diving deep ....
SC-706 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-704 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC-706 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-706 attacking submerged sub ....
SC-706 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-706 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-706 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

created an ASW TF consiting of 6 subchasers to operate out of Hobart... on the way to their new homeport the ASW already stumbles over a sub achieving a hit with a mousetrap...

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ASW attack near Sapporo at 118,50

Japanese Ships
DD Sanae
PB Santo Maru
PB Zuikai Maru

Allied Ships
SS Shad

SS Shad is located by DD Sanae
Shad diving deep ....
DD Sanae fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Zuikai Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Zuikai Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Zuikai Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Zuikai Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Zuikai Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Kume-jima at 93,62

Japanese Ships
xAK Kuritake Maru
xAK Koyu Maru
xAK Konzan Maru
PB Konei Maru

Allied Ships
SS Haddo, hits 1

SS Haddo launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Kuritake Maru
Haddo diving deep ....
PB Konei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Konei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Konei Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Konei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Konei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Haddo just recently arrived in her patrol zone and takes a hit today, putting here into the docks again... on her way to Pearl...

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 10000 feet

Marine fighters failing to link up with my Army bombers...

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Morning Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 23

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet *

CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead

two squadrons set to sweep, the ridicoulos outcome is clear before they even launch, they go in alone of course... the first sweep only meets one Tojo that was damaged...

sweep one...

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Morning Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet

CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 35000
Raid is overhead
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead

usually the first sweep only alerts the hornets and the follow on strikes meet more enemies... in this case it was good for us but it could turn out exactly the other way around... low numbers of enemy fighters, the dive endlessly on our side, the enemy shot to pieces... they were lucky that some of them were only damaged... we took out five IJAAF fighters for no loss though...

sweep two...

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 10

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

my medium bombers seem to achieve better hit rates in bad weather than my heavy bombers...

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 11
P-40K Warhawk x 9

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 10

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 19th Indian Division, at 59,45 (Shwebo)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 11000 feet *

the usual Zero escort attempt that fails day after day after day after day... how ridicoulos is this? They�re base at Rangoon just like the bombers and they�re set to the same alt... yet they fail every time and it was the same in Australia too... very well designed...

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Afternoon Air attack on 19th Indian Division, at 59,45 (Shwebo)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 20
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 22
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 9 damaged

Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
23 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

being in repeat mode, the Tojos coming from a base 500 miles away from the bomber base are flying this escort mission but the Zeroes from the same base fail day after day... this has to be looked at as it�s just a ridicoulos outcome all the time, this is not the exception... it�s borked and if there will only be bug busting then be it, but then the design of the air routine should be called nothing else but a BUG when it really is wad...

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Afternoon Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 17
B-17F Fortress x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 28

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 3 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead

looks like Rainer has set some of his Tojos at Rabaul to LRCAP Gasmata...

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Afternoon Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 11
B-17F Fortress x 11

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 28

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 11

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 15

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 11, 42
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Sub vs Sub: SS I-160 attacking SS Pompano at 88,125 - near Merauke

Japanese Ships
SS I-160

Allied Ships
SS Pompano

SS I-160 launches 8 torpedoes at 4,000 yards

wow, next sub vs sub...

torps were duds, Pompano was lucky here...

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ASW attack near Cairns at 94,140

Japanese Ships
SS I-33, hits 3

Allied Ships
DD Fortune
DD Morris
DD Nepal

SS I-33 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Fortune
I-33 diving deep ....
DD Nepal fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fortune fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Nepal fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Nepal attacking submerged sub ....
DD Nepal fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Nepal fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

it�s the sub that usually attacks first, far too often IMO when it comes down to attack enemy ASW TFs... true for both sides... torps missed and I-33 takes three near misses in return...

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Morning Air attack on 268th Motorised Brigade, at 56,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 20

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
343rd FG/11th FS with P-40E Warhawk (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(16 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

unescorted bomber strike as usual... wth are there P-40E flying above this unit? All my P-40E are stationed at Akyab and are set to 80% LRCAP (BB TF covering unloading of a supply convoy at Akyab) 20% rest, so why does LRCAP leak out to a unit two or three hexes away?

when I order them to LRCAP a target then they should do that and not fly 130 miles away to a unit in the jungle...

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Afternoon Air attack on 268th Motorised Brigade, at 56,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 25
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 23

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (0 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
343rd FG/11th FS with P-40E Warhawk (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(16 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

also the follow on strike meets leaking LRCAP

... while we were able to take out some Helens of the first (unescorted strike) the second strike had Tojos diving on our fighters and of course shredding them for no loss on the escorts...

we�ve also lost 7 C-47 to ops today...

transport duty and naval search are killer missions...

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Ground combat at Prome (55,50)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1785 troops, 134 guns, 56 vehicles, Assault Value = 2061

Defending force 5141 troops, 60 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 139

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
42nd Cavalry Regiment
20th Indian Division
7th Armoured Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
39th Indian Division
23rd Indian Division
150th RAC Regiment
70th British Division
26th Indian Division
XV Indian Corps
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
21st Light AA Regiment
Eastern Army
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
RAF 221 Group Base Force
4th NW Frontier Base Force
6th Medium Regiment
106th RAF Base Force
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
III Indian Corps
95th Heavy AA Regiment

Defending units:
77th Infantry Regiment
7th Field AF Construction Battalion
34th Field AA Battalion
84th JAAF AF Bn

Rainer had movement trouble with his units here so he asked me not to attack this turn and I agreed... only a bombardment to look what he�s got there, the enemy will have moved out next turn... we will do a shock attack tomorrow...

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Sub attack near Laoag at 80,72

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-20
SC CHa-23

Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon

SS Sturgeon launches 4 torpedoes at SC CHa-20
SC CHa-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub vs Sub: SS I-169 attacking SS Blackfish at 93,130 - near Horn Island

Japanese Ships
SS I-169

Allied Ships
SS Blackfish, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

SS I-169 launches 4 torpedoes at 1,000 yards

it might be the usual paranoia by my opponent and me, but what about that? First we play 11 months and haven�t seen a single sub vs sub engagement and since we�ve done the hotfix we see no less than THREE sub vs sub engagements in four turns...

sorry, but is this strange or not?

330 turns when nothing happens and then out of a sudden three attacks in four turns? hmmm

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Morning Air attack on Meiktila , at 58,47

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 39,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet

CAP engaged:
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead

two Lightning squadrons set to sweep of course... What do we see? One or two squadrons? The air routine just sucks...

first sweep into the hornets nest and we see a small number of fighters... we dive them and they are shredded...

sweep one...

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Morning Air attack on Meiktila , at 58,47

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 16

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 6 destroyed

CAP engaged:
260th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 26000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes

the P-38E then follow the P-38F attack and as usual, the second attack draws more enemies in... always the same... we dive the enemy fighters again and again shred them... for one P-38 lost to ops we take out 16 Tojos... loop for us today, these are the Tojos that took out our P-40 at 20:0 while being outnumbered...

sweep two...

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Morning Air attack on Shortlands , at 109,131

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 27
B-24D Liberator x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 4 damaged
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 67

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
801 Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
264th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes

moved some B-17 squadrons to Port Moresby and they join the B-24 from Cairns... even though the weather is awful, we get a really nice hit rate and the fighters more or less did nothing... all went well so far...

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Morning Air attack on Shortlands , at 109,131

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 1
A6M3 Zero x 18
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 16
B-24D Liberator x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(18 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
18 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead
801 Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
264th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

... until we then see the usual piece meal BS following... and as mentioned a hundred times already, the follow on strike faces more fighters joining in from other bases too then... in this case we pay a heavy price for it...

suffers...

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Morning Air attack on Shortlands , at 109,131

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Shortlands , at 109,131

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

in the end we lose 8 heavy bombers today, a big hug to the uncoordination feature called "strike pack"... lost two weeks bomber replacements in this strike and that�s definetely something we can�t afford at this stage... I�m thinking about more or less doing nothing for the next three months to further build up and wait for the Corsairs arrive in 1/43 and for 48 B-24 each month from 2/43 on...

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Afternoon Air attack on Goodenough Island , at 101,131

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 27

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 25000 feet *

Rainer spotted my fighters at Milne Bay and sent a sweep to pick off leaking Cap but all my fighters were set to LRCAP/rest and none leaked to Goodenough...

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Ground combat at Prome (55,50)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 55130 troops, 921 guns, 1274 vehicles, Assault Value = 2057

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 2449

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 2449 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied forces CAPTURE Prome !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+)

Assaulting units:
42nd Cavalry Regiment
150th RAC Regiment
23rd Indian Division
39th Indian Division
70th British Division
7th Armoured Brigade
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
20th Indian Division
26th Indian Division
4th NW Frontier Base Force
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Light AA Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
RAF 221 Group Base Force
XV Indian Corps
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
106th RAF Base Force
Eastern Army
III Indian Corps
6th Medium Regiment
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
95th Heavy AA Regiment

we shock attack but as expected the enemy was able to move out...

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Sub attack near Truk at 111,109

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 5
xAKL Higari Maru
SC Ch 11
SC Ch 10

Allied Ships
SS Stingray

SS Stingray launches 4 torpedoes at SC Ch 5
Stingray diving deep ....
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Mussau Island at 104,118

Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Umikaze
DD Kawakaze

Allied Ships
SS KXIV

SS KXIV is sighted by escort
DD Umikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Truk at 111,109

Japanese Ships
DD Asagumo
DD Tachekaze
DD Kasumi
DD Arare

Allied Ships
SS Stingray

SS Stingray is sighted by escort
Stingray diving deep ....
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kasumi fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Normanby Island , at 102,133

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 24

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 22000 feet *

trying to pick off leaking Milne Bay Cap but all fighters were set to LRCAP a convoy against the Betty threat from Munda...

sweep one...

small Cap for the first strike...

sweep one...

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Morning Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet

CAP engaged:
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
24th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 35000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes

bigger Cap for the second strike... it�s always the same... we dive on the enemy again and shred them... getting more and more of those "small" loops, soon will have made up for the big loop when I lost 45 fighters for no gain recently...

sweep two...

I don�t like the airroutines... 14:0 kills today...

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Morning Air attack on Normanby Island , at 102,133

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 22000 feet *

sweep two...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Mussau Island at 104,118

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Samidare

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 1000 feet *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

have set the Port Moresby Mitchells to low nav full range and they attack with one bomb at 11 hexes range... have I missed something? I�ve already mentioned it when my Marauders attacked with 3x500lb bombs normal range and now we get 1x500lb bomb extended range... seems like low nav attack means the normal loadout divided by 2 at normal range and another time divided by 2 (rounded down) when attacking at extended range...

is this a bug or is this working as designed? Needless to say that Mitchells won�t hit anything with one bomb and light rain...

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Sub attack near Wakayama at 108,62

Japanese Ships
PB Heiei Maru #7
TK Kiyo Maru
PB Sozan Maru

Allied Ships
SS Sculpin

SS Sculpin launches 4 torpedoes at PB Heiei Maru #7
Sculpin diving deep ....
PB Sozan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sozan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sozan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sozan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Sozan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Orchid Island at 86,68

Japanese Ships
E Kari
E Otori
E Hayabusa

Allied Ships
SS Gunnel

SS Gunnel is located by E Kari
Gunnel diving deep ....
E Kari fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hayabusa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hayabusa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hayabusa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hayabusa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hayabusa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hayabusa attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Toyohara at 125,47

Japanese Ships
xAK Nitiren Maru
xAK Tatuha Maru
PB Yachiyo Maru

Allied Ships
SS Shad

SS Shad launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Nitiren Maru
Shad diving deep ....
PB Yachiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yachiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yachiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yachiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yachiyo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

dud

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ASW attack near Tanegashima at 101,63

Japanese Ships
TK Azuchisan Maru
TK Okuni Maru
TK Fukko Maru
DD Akikaze

Allied Ships
SS Wahoo

SS Wahoo is sighted by escort
Wahoo diving deep ....
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akikaze attacking submerged sub ....
SS Wahoo eludes ASW attack from DD Akikaze
SS Wahoo eludes ASW attack from DD Akikaze
SS Wahoo eludes DD Akikaze by diving deep
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Toyohara at 125,46

Japanese Ships
xAK Samarang Maru
PB Teshio Maru

Allied Ships
SS Shad

SS Shad launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Samarang Maru
Shad bottoming out ....
PB Teshio Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Teshio Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Teshio Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Teshio Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Teshio Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

dud

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Sub attack near Toyohara at 125,47

Japanese Ships
PB Teshio Maru

Allied Ships
SS Runner, hits 1

SS Runner launches 4 torpedoes at PB Teshio Maru
PB Teshio Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Teshio Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Teshio Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Teshio Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Teshio Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

and dud... too many duds lately...

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Morning Air attack on 268th Motorised Brigade, at 56,49

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet *

no leaking Cap from Akyab over this unit...

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Morning Air attack on 1st South India Base Force, at 56,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 26

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 35000 feet

CAP engaged:
343rd FG/11th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

but of course leaking LONG RANGE Cap over this unit... what the hell is going on when I set my fighters to LRCAP a TF 135 miles away and some of them leak into Burma? Sightseeing flight? Would this happen also in real life? Guess not or would the Luftwaffe fighters fly 135 miles into France to cover a ground unit when their Battleships break through the Channel? Probably NOT!

All four Warhawks were dived and shot down...

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Morning Air attack on 1st South India Base Force, at 56,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 25

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 26000 feet

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Morning Air attack on 1st South India Base Force, at 56,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 6

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 35000 feet

the enemy gets dispersed sweeps just a we do, if not worse as even his units seem to split up... nothing left to be shot down...

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Morning Air attack on 268th Motorised Brigade, at 56,49

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 21
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 24
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 8 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 6 damaged
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (0 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 35th JAAF AF Bn , at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 7
Wellington Ic x 17
B-17E Fortress x 27

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
318 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 6 (0 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Wellington Ic bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Wellington Ic bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

we�ve ordered all our bombers to attack this single unit marching East in a clear hex as I�ve thought that we could do some damage... good weather and a clear hex means we did good damage... we should catch this unit with our advancing tanks from Shwebo anyway so it wasn�t really worth flying this attack though... Mandalay was abandoned by the enemy yesterday and today it autoswitched to the Allied side... our Army that took Shwebo will arrive at Mandalay tomorrow... the enemy is in full retreat in Burma and I�m sure I will get all the clear terrain for free after our success at Shwebo... don�t know about Rangoon yet but I guess also that base will be abandoned as it�s a death trap and if the enemy isn�t moving out early enough he could be cut off. Leaves him with naval supply and evacuation but this could become costly when I get my bombers on low nav attack through and there�s also the Royal Navy...

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Morning Air attack on 35th JAAF AF Bn , at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 9
B-17E Fortress x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington Ic bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 35th JAAF AF Bn , at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9
B-25C Mitchell x 24

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 35th JAAF AF Bn , at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 18
B-24D Liberator x 39

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 12
B-24D Liberator x 13

No Allied losses

Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Lae won�t get operational again and the base is only supplied by fast transport TFs... hopefully I will catch a fast transport TF soon again as this could make Rainer stop these resupply attempts once and for all... there are 25.000 troops reported at Lae, the two divs that took Buna are on the march and should arrive there in two months or so if they have to fight their way through... marching them there because I�m not in a hurry, have to take all the surrounding bases of Lae and I have to deal with the Japanese ground units anyway that were kicked out of Buna and are also marching North...

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 35th JAAF AF Bn , at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 1st South India Base Force, at 56,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 26000 feet

pretty dispersed IJAAF sweeps today...

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Afternoon Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 28

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 41

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 36
P-40E Warhawk x 10
P-40K Warhawk x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 10
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 14

No Allied losses

Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Sub attack near Truk at 108,111

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 11
SC Ch 6
SC Ch 5
xAKL Higari Maru
SC Ch 10

Allied Ships
SS Barb

SS Barb launches 6 torpedoes at SC Ch 11
Barb diving deep ....
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 11 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

and the last dud of the day...

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Ground combat at 99,128

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20367 troops, 404 guns, 574 vehicles, Assault Value = 685

Defending force 6800 troops, 60 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 142

Allied adjusted assault: 600

Japanese adjusted defense: 619

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
482 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
295 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Americal Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
I US Amphib Corps

Defending units:
82nd Naval Guard Unit
4th Division
83rd Naval Guard Unit
50th Fld AA Bn /379
2nd Provisional Base Force /331

4th division is a really tough unit... was kicked out of PM easily but then fought a tough fight at Buna, delaying us by at least two weeks. Now the unit is on the march in the hex NW of Buna and while only showing up with 90 av in the combat replay, the unit withstands our attack again... tough unit... I thought mopping up here would be a walkover...

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Ground combat at 56,49

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4101 troops, 64 guns, 159 vehicles, Assault Value = 151

Defending force 1650 troops, 0 guns, 247 vehicles, Assault Value = 138

Assaulting units:
268th Motorised Brigade

Defending units:
9th Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment

North East of Prome one of our mot bgds meets two tank regiments that are reported to move South East... we�re on par in assault value and are sitting in a jungle hex so I doubt an enemy attack can achieve something and I doubt Rainer will try to attack anyway... the enemy air attacks neither caused losses nor notable disruption...

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ASW attack near Rabaul at 106,124

Japanese Ships
DD Asagumo
DD Yamagumo
DD Tachekaze
DD Kasumi
DD Arare

Allied Ships
SS KXI

SS KXI is sighted by escort
KXI diving deep ....
DD Tachekaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kasumi fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arare fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Vigan at 78,73

Japanese Ships
xAK Sanura Maru
DD Yakaze

Allied Ships
SS Pollack

SS Pollack launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Sanura Maru
Pollack diving deep ....
DD Yakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Buna , at 99,129

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
VMF-111 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes

with the given air routines it has become standard tactic for both sides not to attack heavily capped targets but a target in three hexes range of the fighter base to pick off leaking Cap... that way I�m losing between 2 and 6 fighters daily... I hate the air routines...

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Morning Air attack on Buna , at 99,129

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
VMF-211 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
VMF-221 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
35th FG/39th FS with P-40E Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
35th FG/41st FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes

especially when you see the daily repeated stupid results... always the same... dive... boom... dive... boom... dive... boom... works for both sides and brings up nothing but loops all the time...

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 99,128

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 15
B-25C Mitchell x 24
P-40E Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
752 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 2nd Provisional Base Force /331 ...
Also attacking 50th Fld AA Bn /379 ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Provisional Base Force /331 ...
Also attacking 50th Fld AA Bn /379 ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Provisional Base Force /331 ...
Also attacking 50th Fld AA Bn /379 ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Provisional Base Force /331 ...
Also attacking 50th Fld AA Bn /379 ...

dive... boom... boom... boom...

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 99,128

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 13
P-40K Warhawk x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Raid is overhead
752 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 99,128

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 14
B-25C Mitchell x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 82nd Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 82nd Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 82nd Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 82nd Naval Guard Unit ...

it�s just the old story... unlike WITP, AE has created a "don�t use fighters air war"... as the Allied you�re better off using your bombers alone and also don�t fly Cap somewhere, this would result in 1/3 of your losses... our bombers shot down more Zeroes today than all my 70 skilled fighters... these air routines are just rubbish... we lost a dozen fighters for 2 enemies... funn, considering we constantyl put more fighters into the air... dive... boom...

for all of those who have missed it reading books, the Japanese invented zoom and boom...

but hey, going in at 39.000ft with my P-38 against a dozen figthers on leaking Cap gives me a 25:1 kill rate over time so I can make up for all the loops... the big picture is correct...

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Ground combat at 99,128

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20116 troops, 404 guns, 574 vehicles, Assault Value = 671

Defending force 6373 troops, 66 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 116

Allied adjusted assault: 290

Japanese adjusted defense: 409

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
674 casualties reported
Squads: 30 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 36 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
64 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Americal Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
I US Amphib Corps

Defending units:
82nd Naval Guard Unit
4th Division
83rd Naval Guard Unit
50th Fld AA Bn /379
2nd Provisional Base Force /331

4th Div is really causing me headache but it seems we�re only delayed as we don�t really take losses...

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