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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 8/9/2010 1:25:18 PM   
castor troy


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ORIGINAL: Yakface

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ORIGINAL: castor troy


more is coming in, this time also some Beaufighters that obviously got lost... and now please tell me how it works to detect this raid 4min before they drop their bombs but the Tonies have 142 min time to reach interception... is this a joke or what? I guess the bombers donīt even need that long from their base to the target!

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Hi Castor

You seem to be understanding the time for all groups to intercept as the time the code is giving to the defender as a warning.

My understanding of the 142 minutes is that it refers to the length of time needed for all the possible fighters to get into battle (scrambled or called in from elsewhere). In effect it means that (with only 4 minutes warning) most of these will not get into the fight. In effect the longer the 'time needed' compared to 'estimated time to target', the better for your bombers.





Hi

To be honest, Iīve asked myselve more than a dozen times already if Iīm just too stupid to understand what I read. Iīve never seen it from that perspective, it certainly makes sense. Thanks for the tip , Iīm definetely will have a close look on the issue in future.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 8/9/2010 2:19:15 PM   
castor troy


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Status: offline 		1st May, another important date. The SBD-5 Dauntless (in big numbers) and the Helldiver (in smaller numbers) are available from now on. The Helldiver will be my preferred bomber for my carrier based bomber squadrons but it will take forever to equip them with this fine aircraft. The SBD-5 is no improvement at all over the SBD-3 so I wonder why I should upgrade the squadrons (other than to have more replacements), in fact, from the stats the SBD-5 is even worse than the 3. The Helldiver is the ultimate bomber though, it carries radar and gets two additional 250lb bombs to itīs 1000lb bomb. A month since the appearance of the Hellcat has passed and three VF squadrons are now flying this fighter, the rest of the available carriersī VF squadrons will be upgraded this month. Within the next six weeks, every carrier based fighter squadron will be upgraded to Hellcats (also the VR squadrons which I use for Cap only and not for replacement use, this gives me additional CVE with 28 fighters each, the bomber squadrons were sent ashore for training)


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 01, 43
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Sub attack near Aogashima at 112,66

Japanese Ships
xAK Florida Maru
E W-25
xAK Glasgow Maru
xAK Aden Maru
E Sureko
E Uruko

Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon, hits 2



SS Sturgeon launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Florida Maru
E Sureko fails to find sub and abandons search
E Uruko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Uruko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Uruko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Uruko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Uruko attacking submerged sub ....
E Uruko fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

heavy escort for this convoy, the sub takes a direct hit... mission kill...

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ASW attack near Chiba at 115,63

Japanese Ships
DD Minekaze

Allied Ships
SS Seadragon



SS Seadragon is sighted by escort
Seadragon diving deep ....
DD Minekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Minekaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Minekaze cannot establish contact with SS Seadragon
DD Minekaze loses contact with SS Seadragon
DD Minekaze loses contact with SS Seadragon
DD Minekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Minekaze attacking submerged sub ....
SS Seadragon eludes DD Minekaze by diving deep
SS Seadragon eludes ASW attack from DD Minekaze
SS Seadragon eludes DD Minekaze by diving deep
SS Seadragon eludes ASW attack from DD Minekaze
DD Minekaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Minekaze cannot establish contact with SS Seadragon
DD Minekaze loses contact with SS Seadragon
SS Seadragon eludes DD Minekaze by diving deep
DD Minekaze cannot establish contact with SS Seadragon
DD Minekaze cannot reach attack position over SS Seadragon
SS Seadragon eludes ASW attack from DD Minekaze
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Bandjermasin at 58,99

Japanese Ships
DD Tadeyame
DD Harukaze
DD Suruyame

Allied Ships
SS O21, hits 2



SS O21 is located by DD Tadeyame
O21 bottoming out ....
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Suruyame fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tadeyame attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Aogashima at 112,66

Japanese Ships
E W-26
xAK Glasgow Maru
xAK Aden Maru
E Sureko
E Uruko

Allied Ships
SS Runner



SS Runner launches 4 torpedoes at E W-26
Runner diving deep ....
E Sureko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Uruko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Sureko attacking submerged sub ....
E Uruko fails to find sub and abandons search
E Sureko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Sureko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Sureko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Sureko fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


duds...
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Sub attack near Taihoku at 87,62

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-27, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
SC CHa-37

Allied Ships
SS Tinosa



SS Tinosa launches 6 torpedoes at SC CHa-27
Tinosa diving deep ....
SC CHa-37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

consolation prize...

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Sub attack near Okinoerabushima at 97,66

Japanese Ships
xAK Kanko Maru
xAK Tateisi Maru
PB Tonon Maru

Allied Ships
SS Growler



SS Growler launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Kanko Maru
Growler diving deep ....
PB Tonon Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tonon Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tonon Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tonon Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tonon Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

duds again...

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Pre-Invasion action off Lunga

54 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CL Concord
CL Marblehead
LST-17
LST-19
LST-16
AM Bengal
AM Muritai


Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


CL Concord firing at 14th Division
CL Marblehead firing at 14th Division
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Lunga

TF 109 troops unloading over beach at Lunga, 114,138


Allied ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 23 (2 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (0 destroyed, 8 disabled)


0.5in M2HB AAMG x4 lost overboard during unload of 3rd Marine Div /2
37mm M3 AT Gun lost overboard during unload of 3rd Marine Div /3
10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 3rd Marine Div /6
8 Aviation Support troops lost overboard during unload of 104th USN Base Force /2

two USMC divisions plus two base forces are sent to Guadalcanal to take the island... with Munda already taken, Shortlands being in the process of bein taken and now Lunga under siege leaves Tulagi as the only enemy base with troops... no plans of taking this base though, two units reported there (small ones), no airfield, level 2 port... perhaps Iīm going to prep two rgt to take them out in a couple of months but Tulagi really is no threat...

this is the first amphib operation with APA, AKA and LST... itīs working wonderfully... at the end of the day, all troops and 20,000 supplies have been unloaded and both divs received 7-9,000 supplies, enough to take out the defenders...


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Invasion Support action off Lunga

31 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CL Concord
CL Marblehead
LST-17
AM Bengal
AM Muritai
LST-18
LST-16


Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


CL Marblehead firing at 14th Division
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards

note that we AGAIN face a division... two divs destroyed on New Guinea, one already destroyed in the Solomons with another one going to be destroyed here... four or five divs at Darwin and the enemyīs strenght in the Moulmein - Chian Mai area is further increasing, estimated enemy assault value is already around 8-10,000av. I beg your pardon for asking the same question again: "where are all these troops coming from?"... Donīt get me wrong, from a gameīs perspective Iīm happy to see that many enemy divs in Thailand because an Allied rush to Singapore in mid 43 is somewhat off IMO (itīs more than enough that taking Burma was that easy) but from the "wanting to win perspective" Iīm pretty much a big when it comes down to the huge number of enemy divs Iīm facing everywhere...

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ASW attack near San Francisco at 215,69

Japanese Ships
SS I-28

Allied Ships
xAK B. F. Shaw
SC PC-599



SS I-28 is sighted by escort
I-28 diving deep ....
SC PC-599 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-599 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-599 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-599 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-599 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

probably two enemy subs operating off the West Coast at the moment...

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Sub attack near Chiba at 115,63

Japanese Ships
E Oki
DD Minekaze

Allied Ships
SS Runner



Captain of SS Runner elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
Runner diving deep ....
DD Minekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Minekaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Minekaze cannot establish contact with SS Runner
SS Runner eludes ASW attack from DD Minekaze
DD Minekaze cannot reach attack position over SS Runner
SS Runner eludes ASW attack from DD Minekaze
DD Minekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Minekaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Minekaze loses contact with SS Runner
SS Runner eludes ASW attack from DD Minekaze
SS Runner eludes ASW attack from DD Minekaze
SS Runner eludes DD Minekaze by diving deep
SS Runner eludes ASW attack from DD Minekaze
DD Minekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Gunzan at 100,51

Japanese Ships
xAK Kirishima Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Toa Maru
PB Tatsumi Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tunny



SS Tunny launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Kirishima Maru
Tunny bottoming out ....
PB Tatsumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

weīre far away from sinking an AK or TK each day with our sub fleet...

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Submarine attack near Rossel Island at 105,136

Japanese Ships
SS I-8, hits 13, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Dunlap
DD Meade
DD Farenholt



SS I-8 is sighted by escort
DD Dunlap fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Meade fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meade fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meade fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meade attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-8 eludes ASW attack from DD Meade
SS I-8 forced to surface!
DD Farenholt firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Dunlap firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Farenholt firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Dunlap firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Farenholt firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Dunlap firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Farenholt firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Dunlap firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Meade firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Farenholt firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Dunlap firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Meade firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Farenholt firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Dunlap firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

you should keep one thing in mind when using your DDs for ASW duty: EXPERIENCE... Iīve complained about my US DDs being more or less useless when attacking enemy subs while my British DDs were killers... the reason for this was more than obvious though, the overall higher exp of British DDs and me using lots of different US DDs in ASW TFs all the time... so Iīve focussed on using the same DDs in ASW TFs over a longer period (like the above one) and especially Meade and Dunlap increased their experience (eg. Meade by 8 points, night and day exp together). And it seems that there is a magic line in the code that makes ASW deadly while itīs useless before. A couple of points in exp seems to make a huge difference, this can also be seen in the huge step forward of IJN ASW on 1/1/43 when the ASW exp increases from 67% to 80% ASW exp (total exp as basis)...

the sub fired three! torp salvoes during the gun battle... all of them missed luckily... seems rather odd but so far a sub never has hit something in such a case in this PBEM...

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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 38,740 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 34



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
34 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 36740 feet

no thank you, I wonīt put up Cap to be shot down in droves... our air offensive in Burma FAILED! 400+ fighters and something like 170 bombers werenīt enough to harm the IJAAF, with how the game is designed, the enemy just flew sweeps daily, leaves the airfields empty and makes landing on a ten times destroyed airfield possible which makes my bomber attacks useless... youīve got to Cap your bomber bases because you never know if your bombers fly or not and voila, not you are the one that hurts your enemy, but the enemy comes in and hurts you...

now we go back to what Iīve been saying for ages again, sweeps... stratosphere sweeps with Lightnings (and P-47 soon with three squadrons coming as replacements in the next 1.5 months)... then from time to time moving the bomber force to Burma to do a one day bomber offensive... means transferring some 40 squadrons back and forth from India to Burma everytime I decide to launch a raid... lots of work and pretty strange... but I am just not willing to throw away my airforce like many other Allied players seem to constantly do in their AARs for no gain in return... itīs a game, if the game forces you to play a command and conquer game then thatīs what Iīve got to do... unfortunetely...

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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 41,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 44



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
44 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 36750 feet *

these two sweeps on Toungoo would have been enough to knock out 50 of my fighters easily and without a working radar I wonīt get more fighters airborne when Iīve got 200 of them at the base... which means 50 being shot down by the sweeps, another 50 being destroyed on the ground if the enemy manages to bring a good number of bombers over the airfield... leaves me with flak, but flak is useless... more about that below...

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Morning Air attack on Changteh , at 81,50

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 24
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 21



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

could be another 50 bombers in Thailand...

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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 23
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 30
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 32
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 28
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 5



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-21-IIb Sally: 8 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 7 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Airbase hits 23
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 64

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
28 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
30 x Ki-21-IIb Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

and there you go! 86 enemy bombers coming in at 11,000ft, the standard attack alt for IJAAF bombers... Iīve got 150 heavy flak guns at the base (1 is disabled) and we claim the whopping number of two enemy bomber shot down by flak... Iīve said it before on the main forum, I can say it for a repeated time here in my AAR again, flak isnīt modelled correctly... and I sure stand by what Iīve said... itīs totally unrealistic to have that amount of flak guns at such a base in Burma but who cares, the gameīs routine for flak is even more unrealistic because not even that many guns do what 25% of them could do - force the enemy to a higher alt or cause serious losses...

Iīve pointed out on the main forum that Berlin had some 400-500 heavy flak guns at itīs peak in 44 so having 150 3.7 inch guns in a base somewhere in the Burmese jungel is off... even more off is the result of the flak fire against IJAAF bombers at 11,000ft... US heavy bomber crews didnīt like Berlin as a target because they knew this wouldnīt be a cakewalk but they were flying twice as high or higher and were flying in so called Flying FORTRESSES for example... I beg your pardon, but AFAIK the IJAAF bombers werenīt famous for being flying tanks ala IL-2... too me, flak is far from being correctly modelled, sorry to say that. Perhaps Iīm just wrong and thatīs perfectly realistic... I do know how the loss ratios in real life looked like though and I also know that there werenīt these UBER flak concentrations like Iīve got one here at Toungoo... heck, more than 50% of the available heavy flak in India has been put into Toungoo...



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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 7
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 19



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 8 damaged



Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

more enemy bombers, bringing the total numbers to 100+ today... roughly 2% lost to flak, sounds "reasonable" but only when you would have "reasonable" flak at the target... but having 150 3.7 flak guns at the target is NOT reasonable, therefore the result isnīt either...





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Morning Air attack on TF, near Rabaul at 106,125

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 20
TBF-1 Avenger x 16


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
LB-127, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
16 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo

the last barge was sunk... wonder why Rainer didnīt make use of the barges in the Solomons to supply his bases but I donīt know if they can be compared to US LCTs which I can make good use of (the LCVPs are utter useless though)...

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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 18
B-26B Marauder x 14


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking 9th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...

we keep up the bombing, with no effect other than a bit training... noticed that training seems to improve all the needed skills faster than actual bombing runs though... is that strange too?

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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 8


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 2nd JNAF AF Unit , at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 39


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 47

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

keeping Rabaul closed is as impossible as Darwin... if the enemy decides to, he sure will get lots of chances to place 150+ fighters on Cap at these bases... so far he hasnīt done that...

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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 7


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 37


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 52

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 10


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Invasion Support action off Lunga

38 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
LST-19
AM Bengal
AM Muritai
LST-16
LST-20


Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards



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Ground combat at Lunga (114,138)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9233 troops, 32 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 279

Defending force 29721 troops, 641 guns, 437 vehicles, Assault Value = 842


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
14th Division
9th Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
2nd Marine Div /28
3rd Marine Div /29
119th USAAF Base Force /1
104th USN Base Force /1

my units havenīt turned into the parent yet but will do at the end of the turn... having a 3:1 in av and even more so in firepower "should" do the trick but experience has shown the different already... will see...

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Ground combat at Shortlands (109,131)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 41453 troops, 813 guns, 1144 vehicles, Assault Value = 1486

Defending force 11790 troops, 136 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 357

Allied adjusted assault: 813

Japanese adjusted defense: 105

Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Shortlands !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1418 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 85 disabled
Non Combat: 33 destroyed, 55 disabled
Engineers: 30 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 55 (55 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 39 (39 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
460 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 18 (2 destroyed, 16 disabled)


Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Division
25th Infantry Division
Americal Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
177th USAAF Base Force
2nd RNZAF Base Force

Defending units:
10th Division
85th Naval Guard Unit
12th Naval Construction Battalion


we finally take the base... a tough nut to crack, took us weeks to do so and also took us four divisions... quite a force for such a target and it makes me sick already when Iīve got to think about targets like Rabaul with reported 30 units at the base... seems it doesnīt matter that they will be cut off for probably 6-8 months when weīre finally going to invade the place... going to finish off the Japanese here, then the troops will start prepping for the next target and will be brought back to Australia for R&R...


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The SBD-5 is no improvement at all over the SBD-3 so I wonder why I should upgrade the squadrons (other than to have more replacements), in fact, from the stats the SBD-5 is even worse than the 3.


The SBD-5 has a radar. That's the main difference (apart from the loss of one hex range as you implied).

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The SBD-5 is no improvement at all over the SBD-3 so I wonder why I should upgrade the squadrons (other than to have more replacements), in fact, from the stats the SBD-5 is even worse than the 3.


The SBD-5 has a radar. That's the main difference (apart from the loss of one hex range as you implied).



oh, must have missed that. That (perhaps) makes it a better choice over the SBD-3. No clue how much it influences finding the target though.

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Submarine attack near Saumlaki at 78,116

Japanese Ships
xAKL Tientsin Maru, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
SS S-30



xAKL Tientsin Maru is sighted by SS S-30
SS S-30 attacking on the surface
Laing, F.W. decides to submerge SS S-30 due to damage

Excuse me, Iīm in total rant mode again today, perhaps itīs the weather, perhaps the constallation of Jupiter to Mars or perhaps itīs just bad luck that all those things keep on happening in my PBEM...

there was more than one thread on the forum about subs disbanding themselve into port due to "damage" and they do this very often due to only one or two points of sys or other damage. Now Don Bowen then told the op that this isnīt true and everything is working as designed (what actually isnīt wad in this game?) and subs wouldnīt do that with minimal damage. The op gave up pretty quick as he was obviously fighting Matrix windmills and I thought that "while the op is true and the dev is wrong, Iīve got enough problem with other game issues already that I donīt want to get involved in this one too". Now Iīve seen this happening dozens of times in this PBEM already, everytime thinking about the dev statement that this wonīt happen in the game. Everytime thinking "is it the same as with the air team lead, not having fired up the game for a looong time?". If a sub disbands itselve into port then itīs one thing, if subs constantly break off engagements due to damage that actually isnīt "real" damage then I call this yet another routine that either is broken, not wad, or the devs arenīt aware of how it is designed because the devīs statement about it would be that subs with minimal damage would press on.

NO, they donīt! This has happened often enough already in this game and it just plain sucks! Iīve got no problem to act as a kind of re-release betatester but what I find kind of odd is when I encounter not working things on and on when a dev seems to think it is working.

the way it is now, itīs saver for the enemy to run the convoys unescorted because an attack on the surface by my subs got a good chance to be broken off immedietely due to non existing damage. Or is anyone here thinking that 2 sys damage would be severe enough to break off the engagement after a single shot was fired???




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Sub attack near Kochi at 107,62

Japanese Ships
E W-13
SC Ch 39
TK Tatibana Maru
E W-14

Allied Ships
SS Steelhead, hits 3



SS Steelhead launches 6 torpedoes at E W-13
Steelhead diving deep ....
E W-14 attacking submerged sub ....
E W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-14 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

1 hit, knocked out

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Sub attack near Kochi at 107,62

Japanese Ships
E W-13
TK Tatibana Maru
TK Ogura Maru #1
E W-14

Allied Ships
SS Wahoo



Captain of SS Wahoo elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
E W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Iba at 78,74

Japanese Ships
DD Oite
DD Yunagi
DD Asanagi

Allied Ships
SS Pompon, hits 1



SS Pompon is sighted by escort
Pompon diving deep ....
DD Yunagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yunagi attacking submerged sub ....
DD Asanagi fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yunagi attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yunagi cannot reach attack position over SS Pompon
DD Yunagi cannot reach attack position over SS Pompon
SS Pompon eludes ASW attack from DD Yunagi
DD Yunagi cannot establish contact with SS Pompon
DD Yunagi cannot reach attack position over SS Pompon
SS Pompon eludes ASW attack from DD Yunagi
DD Yunagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yunagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yunagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Bandjermasin at 59,101

Japanese Ships
DD Harukaze, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tadeyame

Allied Ships
SS Grampus, hits 4



SS Grampus launches 6 torpedoes at DD Harukaze
Grampus bottoming out ....
DD Tadeyame attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

wow, we kill a DD, 4 near misses in return...

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Morning Air attack on 2nd JNAF AF Unit , at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 16
F6F-3 Hellcat x 9


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 15000 feet
9 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet
6 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 15000 feet

looks like the only chance to see my carrier based fighters not escorting the LBA strikes would to either stand them down or restrict their range as long as the carriers are in the area... thatīs great, really... and then wait for KB to show up... STOP trying to escort LBA with carrier based fighters... thatīs insane...

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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet
8 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 15000 feet

more of that... coordination...

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Morning Air attack on Dobo , at 83,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3



Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 39


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 54

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on Lunga , at 114,138

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 27
B-26B Marauder x 18


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 9th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 9th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...


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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
Martlet IV x 2
B-26 Marauder x 8
B-26B Marauder x 9


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Dobo , at 83,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2



Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 3 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 38


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 59

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 8


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9


No Allied losses



Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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ASW attack near Balikpapan at 64,98

Japanese Ships
PB Chitose Maru

Allied Ships
SS Thresher



SS Thresher is located by PB Chitose Maru
Thresher bottoming out ....
PB Chitose Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chitose Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chitose Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chitose Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chitose Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Ground combat at Shortlands (109,131)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 41024 troops, 813 guns, 1143 vehicles, Assault Value = 1454

Defending force 10208 troops, 93 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 271

Allied adjusted assault: 701

Japanese adjusted defense: 15

Allied assault odds: 46 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1376 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Allied ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Division
25th Infantry Division
Americal Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
177th USAAF Base Force
2nd RNZAF Base Force

Defending units:
10th Division
85th Naval Guard Unit


guess the enemy units will be whiped out rather quickly... thatīs definetely a step forward from WITP IMO...



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Sub attack near Kofiau at 79,106

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 5
SC Ch 10

Allied Ships
SS O23



SS O23 launches 2 torpedoes at SC Ch 5
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Iba at 78,74

Japanese Ships
DD Asanagi
DD Oite
DD Yunagi

Allied Ships
SS Trigger, hits 1



SS Trigger launches 6 torpedoes at DD Asanagi
DD Yunagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub


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TF 269 encounters mine field at Shortlands (109,131)

Allied Ships
AM Dubbo
AM Cowra
AM Bowen
AM Benalla



24 mines cleared

the enemy had mines at Shortlands, I wasnīt aware of this fact during my invasion and my AM havenīt found any during unloading of the amphib convoys... now it could also be that a sub came for a visit, I was amazed to suddenly spot a red dot at the base...

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Sub attack near Kobe at 107,61

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-43, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
SC CHa-28

Allied Ships
SS Wahoo



SS Wahoo launches 6 torpedoes at SC CHa-43
Wahoo diving deep ....
SC CHa-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

another subchaser finished...

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Sub attack near Pescadores at 85,62

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-29
SC CHa-37

Allied Ships
SS Gato



SS Gato launches 6 torpedoes at SC CHa-29
SC CHa-37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Perth at 44,147

Japanese Ships
SS I-32

Allied Ships
AM Jan van Amstel
AM Pieter de Bitter



SS I-32 launches 6 torpedoes at AM Jan van Amstel
I-32 diving deep ....
AM Pieter de Bitter fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Pieter de Bitter fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Pieter de Bitter fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Pieter de Bitter attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-32 eludes AM Pieter de Bitter by diving deep
AM Pieter de Bitter fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Morning Air attack on 2nd JNAF AF Unit , at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 9


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
9 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet
8 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 15000 feet *

oh well, what can I say...

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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet

never get in range with your carriers to a target of your LBA... the coordination routine probably would send your carrier based fighters with the land base bombers to a secondary target instead of escorting the carrierīs bombers on an attack on KB...

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Morning Air attack on Changteh , at 81,50

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 24
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 21



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 69

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb


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Morning Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 38,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 43



Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 8
Beaufighter VIc x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed
Beaufighter VIc: 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 36750 feet

CAP engaged:
3rd FG/7th FS CAF with P-43A-1 Lancer (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 36000.
Raid is overhead
3rd FG/8th FS CAF with P-43A-1 Lancer (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 36000.
Raid is overhead
VMF-121 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
No.27 Sqn RAF with Beaufighter VIc (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
No.177 Sqn RAF with Beaufighter VIc (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes

why, oh why have I forgot to fly out all my fighters... or at least stand them all down... radar? British radar is a wet fart, am again claiming that this isnīt realistic... Akyab also got something like a dozen radar sets, none of them was able to spot anything... result is a pre warn time of 10 min, what a joke... donīt know what a realistic pre warn time would be to be honest but just look at the pre warning times you get when you are lucky to get a radar warning... as it stands now, my British radar sets fail 100% of the time... my understanding would be it could fail and did so in real life, wonder if a dozen sets at a single base would never pick up the enemy... probably not... radar being 100% useless in Burma is one reason why itīs impossible to put up Cap... impossible... and hey, the usual never ending DIVE, shooting down or damaging EVERY of my fighters, not a single Oscar was damaged or shot down... the dive? Yeah, when a dev thinks (and states on the forum) that this is the phase when the diving side takes out one, two or at best three of your fighters... lol... wad... 10 out of 19 fighters were destroyed, the rest was damaged... no loss on the DIVING side... perfectly works for both sides and Iīm doing the same with my Lightnings all of the time...




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Morning Air attack on Lunga , at 114,138

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
Martlet IV x 2
B-26 Marauder x 29
B-26B Marauder x 18
P-40K Warhawk x 15


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...


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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 8
B-26B Marauder x 8
P-40K Warhawk x 17


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 9th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking 9th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...


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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 17


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 16


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Ground combat at Shortlands (109,131)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 40866 troops, 813 guns, 1143 vehicles, Assault Value = 1445

Defending force 9135 troops, 93 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 192

Allied adjusted assault: 629

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 89 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1272 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 70 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 72 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Division
Americal Infantry Division
25th Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
177th USAAF Base Force
2nd RNZAF Base Force

Defending units:
10th Division
85th Naval Guard Unit


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Ground combat at Lunga (114,138)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25206 troops, 616 guns, 270 vehicles, Assault Value = 853

Defending force 10575 troops, 40 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 279


Allied ground losses:
223 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Assaulting units:
2nd Marine Division
3rd Marine Division
104th USN Base Force
119th USAAF Base Force

Defending units:
14th Division
9th Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd JNAF AF Unit

wow, this bombardment result could not be anymore stupid... the enemy shreds us with a couple of mortars... no more comment, the cr speaks for itselve...


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Ground combat at Wessel Islands (83,126)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 660 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 55

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 44

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 44 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Wessel Islands !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
503rd Parachute Rgt /1


thatīs the last of the three dot bases South East of Darwin... Wessel Island is taken by a para unit, a USMC def btn is embarked on a landing craft convoy and will be landing here tomorrow... not that I would really fear an enemy counterinvasion but just to make sure... thatīs the second base being 8 hexes off Darwin and weīre going to build it up ASAP... at the moment I could bring 100+ Corsairs and the same number of torp carrying Beauforts to the party if the enemy decides to move ships to Darwin... I could back up these squadrons with another 100 B-25 all trained on low nav attacks, some 60 PB4Y trained on lownav and 150 USAAF 4E as "anti fighter escorts"...



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Status: offline 		regarding radar, during our last carrier engagements (and the small attacks on our carriers) we had prewarning times of 60min, the enemy had the same. With a dozen radar sets, we get prewarning of 10min, without any radar, the enemy gets 14 min over the Solomons so I expect radar to have totally failed when we get prewarnings around 10min.

How did the British fight the BOB? Did they have any working radar a year earlier than where we are now? Granted, proably different, static radar but why is all the radar in Burma totally useseless. Wonder what the land based US radar is worth.

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regarding radar, during our last carrier engagements (and the small attacks on our carriers) we had prewarning times of 60min, the enemy had the same. With a dozen radar sets, we get prewarning of 10min, without any radar, the enemy gets 14 min over the Solomons so I expect radar to have totally failed when we get prewarnings around 10min.

How did the British fight the BOB? Did they have any working radar a year earlier than where we are now? Granted, proably different, static radar but why is all the radar in Burma totally useseless. Wonder what the land based US radar is worth.


Which British radar models are present at the airfields (CH, GL models, as part of the base forces)?

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ORIGINAL: Kereguelen


quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

regarding radar, during our last carrier engagements (and the small attacks on our carriers) we had prewarning times of 60min, the enemy had the same. With a dozen radar sets, we get prewarning of 10min, without any radar, the enemy gets 14 min over the Solomons so I expect radar to have totally failed when we get prewarnings around 10min.

How did the British fight the BOB? Did they have any working radar a year earlier than where we are now? Granted, proably different, static radar but why is all the radar in Burma totally useseless. Wonder what the land based US radar is worth.


Which British radar models are present at the airfields (CH, GL models, as part of the base forces)?



at Toungoo, Iīve got 4x GLI and 5x GLII

at Akyab, Iīve got 2x GLI, 11x GLII and 2x CH

at the surrounding bases like Pegu, Prome and Rangoon Iīve got another dozen of these different sets. So far, theyīve all failed. IIRC always.

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Morning Air attack on Chihkiang , at 78,50

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 21



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Chihkiang , at 78,50

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 24



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Lunga , at 114,138

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 33
B-26B Marauder x 14


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking 9th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...

we keep on pounding the enemy position... effect unknown but probably non existent... doing the airfield attacks purely to burn enemy supplies but that wonīt bring us further either... even after being cut off for month, the enemy seems not to be suffering from supply shortages at all...

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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 8


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 11


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 41


Japanese aircraft losses
H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 6 damaged



Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 48

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11


No Allied losses



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9


No Allied losses



Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Taberfane , at 82,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 7


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground


Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Taberfane , at 82,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 23


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 3 damaged



Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 42

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 16


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

flying lots of air attacks round the clock at the moment, stress on the heavies is pretty high... Iīve discovered something really concerning, while weīre getting a nice number of heavy bombers for the USAAF (48 a month) we are not going to get ANY medium bombers (NON attack bombers) for the USAAF... now Iīm glad to have attack bombers for anti shipping strikes but the only bombers I can use for ground attack missions will be the heavies as I canīt send the attack bombers to attack targets like Rabaul or Darwin because losses would just be too high at 100ft. And 100ft is the default attack alt for the attack bombers... Iīve more or less equipped all my anti shipping squadrons with attack bombers already but as soon as Iīm going to run out of B-26 and B-25C, I wonīt have any medium bomber squadrons left for ground attacks!!! Now I could use the attack bombers for ground attacks against lightly defended targets BUT that would mean I would have to train these guys on low gnd bombing too... Iīm a bit puzzled at the moment as my heavies wonīt be enough to suppress everything in range, I canīt even constantly suppress Darwin and Rabaul, using some 200 heavy bombers against both targets but there are just too many enemy troops and the airfields are up running again in no time...

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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Sub attack near Balikpapan at 64,98

Japanese Ships
PB Banshu Maru #56

Allied Ships
SS Barb



Captain of SS Barb elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
Barb bottoming out ....
PB Banshu Maru #56 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Banshu Maru #56 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Banshu Maru #56 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Banshu Maru #56 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Banshu Maru #56 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Ground combat at Shortlands (109,131)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 40863 troops, 813 guns, 1144 vehicles, Assault Value = 1444

Defending force 8078 troops, 93 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 127

Allied adjusted assault: 784

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 784 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
6164 casualties reported
Squads: 116 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 258 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 17 (15 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Division
25th Infantry Division
Americal Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
177th USAAF Base Force
2nd RNZAF Base Force

Defending units:
10th Division
85th Naval Guard Unit

looking good now, itīs been a very tough and long fighting on Shortlands... four divs were needed to finally take out the place...

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Ground combat at Tassafaronga (113,137)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 244 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 9

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Tassafaronga !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
1st Australian Para Bn /2

dropping on Tassafaronga, dot base North of Lunga... youīve got to seize this dot bases, otherwise the enemy will be able to retreat to them... paras are of good use for these attacks...

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ASW attack near Pescadores at 85,62

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 14
SC Ch 15

Allied Ships
SS Gato



SS Gato is located by SC Ch 14
Gato diving deep ....
SC Ch 15 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 15 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 14 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Aogashima at 113,66

Japanese Ships
xAK Yamahuku Maru, Torpedo hits 1
SC Ch 33
SC Ch 27
AG Muroto
xAK Saiho Maru
xAK Yamayuri Maru
xAK Tuyama Maru
xAK Tatuno Maru
xAK Kosei Maru
DD Hatsuyuki
E Hatsutaka
E Niizaki

Allied Ships
SS Drum



SS Drum launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Yamahuku Maru
Drum diving deep ....
DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hatsutaka fails to find sub and abandons search
E Niizaki fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Niizaki fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Niizaki fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Niizaki fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Niizaki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

huge convoy sighted with quite a heavy escort... a freighter is hit but seems not to be in real trouble, the sub got away unharmed...

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Sub attack near Torishima at 106,68

Japanese Ships
TK Nisshin Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
SC Ch 1
SC Ch 26
SC Ch 25

Allied Ships
SS Harder



SS Harder launches 6 torpedoes at TK Nisshin Maru
Harder diving deep ....
SC Ch 26 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 25 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 25 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 25 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 25 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 25 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 25 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

these are the juicy targets that make me smile... especially when I see oil or fuel cargo burning as this usually means that a single hit would be enough to doom the ship... got the feeling that weīre doing good in sinking enemy tankers, on the other hand Iīve got no clue how many tankers are available for the enemy...

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Morning Air attack on Kweilin , at 76,54

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 3
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 21



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
3 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Kweilin , at 76,54

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 24



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 32

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Lunga , at 114,138

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 26
B-26B Marauder x 14


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...


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Morning Air attack on Lunga , at 114,138

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 17


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...

round the clock bombing... any player out there reading this AAR who suffers the same air attacks nearly daily on one of his troops who can give me some advice if these attacks got ANY effect? So far the enemy seems not to get any negative multipliers for disruption at all and it seems the attacks are completely useless... and this isnīt the first time weīre doing round the clock bombing of a target without noticing any effect... that we donīt cause casulties at all is one thing, but not causing any disruption is another thing...

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Morning Air attack on 2nd JNAF AF Unit , at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 12


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 23


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged



Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

lucky flak hit took out a Liberator... the way weīre using our heavies at the moment, we are losing MORE bombers than we actually get as replacements... REALLY concerning...

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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 8


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 10


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Submarine attack near Hollandia at 93,115

Japanese Ships
xAKL Tenpei Maru, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-41



xAKL Tenpei Maru is sighted by SS S-41
SS S-41 attacking xAKL Tenpei Maru on the surface
SS S-41 low on gun ammo, Holley, G.M. breaks off surface engagement and submerges

this time the sub didnīt submerge due to "non existing damage"... 11 shells hit the small freighter and we get a ship sinking sound right after the engagement... looks like the enemy is now using more and more single xAKLs to go to frontline bases... they seem to mostly get in and out without being attacked by my bombers... we spot them, but we donīt attack them... arrrrgh...

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Sub attack near Aogashima at 113,66

Japanese Ships
E Matsuwa
DD Minekaze

Allied Ships
SS Herring



SS Herring launches 4 torpedoes at E Matsuwa
Herring diving deep ....
DD Minekaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Minekaze cannot establish contact with SS Herring
DD Minekaze cannot reach attack position over SS Herring
DD Minekaze loses contact with SS Herring
E Matsuwa fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Minekaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E Matsuwa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Matsuwa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Matsuwa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Matsuwa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Matsuwa fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Ground combat at Shortlands (109,131)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 40834 troops, 813 guns, 1144 vehicles, Assault Value = 1440

Defending force 3637 troops, 81 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Allied adjusted assault: 643

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 643 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4803 casualties reported
Squads: 153 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 383 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 21 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 105 (105 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 17 (17 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1



Assaulting units:
Americal Infantry Division
25th Infantry Division
24th Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
177th USAAF Base Force
2nd RNZAF Base Force

Defending units:
10th Division

the last enemy unit on Shortlands was whiped out today... finally... another enemy div has been destroyed, no doubt that Rainer was able to bring out fragments of all his units but this should hopefully really stress his armament pool as heīs going to have lots of divs to be rebuilt... need for a lot of armament points means less HI for aircraft production so Iīm not unhappy about him rebuilding these units...

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Ground combat at Lunga (114,138)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 25103 troops, 615 guns, 270 vehicles, Assault Value = 854

Defending force 10507 troops, 38 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 279

Allied adjusted assault: 327

Japanese adjusted defense: 2875

Allied assault odds: 1 to 8 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
583 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled


Allied ground losses:
550 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Vehicles lost 14 (3 destroyed, 11 disabled)


Assaulting units:
2nd Marine Division
3rd Marine Division
104th USN Base Force
119th USAAF Base Force

Defending units:
14th Division
9th Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd JNAF AF Unit


itīs funny to see our adjusted av ONCE AGAIN being a complete joke and being only a third of the base av as usual... troops are fully prepped, this never seems to matter at all... again I can only say that I find this very odd, thereīs just no reason to always see this happening without having any negative multiplier... are the 38 enemy guns of an enemy that has been cut off and bombed for months that powerful that these super guns shred our adjusted av? pff...

on the other hand the enemy gets three negative multipliers but has his av multiplied by 10, resulting in a non combat worthy div getting an adjusted av, being the equivalent of 9!!! US divisions... the enemyīs ridicoulos adjusted av is by far not as concerning as the ongoing 1/3-1/2 adjusted av my troops are ALWAYS seem to get in my amphib invasions without getting any negative multipliers... having unloaded ample supply, being fully prepped and having excellent leaders of course wonīt lead to any positive multipliers either... funny ground combat routines but weīve been used to that since WITP anyway... I just donīt understand it though...

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Status: offline 		Do you think that using strategic bombers (4E's) in a ground attack role is realistic?
Historically 4Es were rarely used for this purpose; I can only think of a few

- Against major enemy strongholds (ala Monte Cassino which had fine little effect)
- Against German positions in Normandy (had an effect but caused more than a hundred US casualties)

With a bombing accuracy at less than a couple of kilometers it was very difficult to accurately hit enemy positions; area saturation was therefore the only option.

Bombing enemy bases is thus one thing, bombing frontlines were friendly and enemy troops are deployed within a few hundred meters of each other is a different matter as collateral damage would be a major issue.

In AE you _can_ use 10 B-24's to hit a contingent of 150 paras on an island and cause 94 casualties.
This is more than very questionable if you ask me

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 8/12/2010 9:21:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think the terrain and fort adjusted defensive AV is a way to make ground combat against Japan more realistic.
In real life it took weeks to reduce major strongholds. As long as you cause enemy losses on a 1-1 scale or better you are bound to win in due time and then you can repair damage while the enemy troops will be destroyed.

I agree that fort and terrain modifiers are a bit extreme; when I play Japan I sometimes can remove 2 Chinese corps from a hex unless I bring 4-5 Jap divisions. Fighting the rather poorly trained and equipped Dutch in Bandoeng is another extreme; they hold out for ages against vastly superior troops.

Everything is a trade of; make it this way and China will fall within 6 months - make it that way and the Allies can capture islands and atolls much easier than in real life. Finding a balance is very challenging.

To me it looks like you're well ahead of schedule already though!

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 8/12/2010 10:47:06 AM   
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Do you think that using strategic bombers (4E's) in a ground attack role is realistic?
Historically 4Es were rarely used for this purpose; I can only think of a few

- Against major enemy strongholds (ala Monte Cassino which had fine little effect)
- Against German positions in Normandy (had an effect but caused more than a hundred US casualties)

With a bombing accuracy at less than a couple of kilometers it was very difficult to accurately hit enemy positions; area saturation was therefore the only option.

Bombing enemy bases is thus one thing, bombing frontlines were friendly and enemy troops are deployed within a few hundred meters of each other is a different matter as collateral damage would be a major issue.

In AE you _can_ use 10 B-24's to hit a contingent of 150 paras on an island and cause 94 casualties.
This is more than very questionable if you ask me


well, other than heavies there is NOTHING left I could use after the B-25C and B-26 pool is used up. Guess you wonīt advise me to use attack bombers against ground targets? This is AE and not real life. Iīm surely going to try it but I guess after doing it twice or perhaps three times I will come up with the conclusion that itīs not worth seeing 5 out of 20 bombers ending up in balloon cables during each mission. As you could see, I was usually using medium bombers in ground attack role. With ground attack Iīve also meant airfield and port attacks though, guess you wonīt have an issue with 4Es bombing bases. But thatīs what also is going to be a problem with 4Es the only "level" bomber available. Talking about the USAAF.

In AE you can use 500 4Es to hit a construction rgt in a jungle hex and cause 12 casualties too. Or 1000 bombers and you cause 20.


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I think the terrain and fort adjusted defensive AV is a way to make ground combat against Japan more realistic.
In real life it took weeks to reduce major strongholds. As long as you cause enemy losses on a 1-1 scale or better you are bound to win in due time and then you can repair damage while the enemy troops will be destroyed.

I agree that fort and terrain modifiers are a bit extreme; when I play Japan I sometimes can remove 2 Chinese corps from a hex unless I bring 4-5 Jap divisions. Fighting the rather poorly trained and equipped Dutch in Bandoeng is another extreme; they hold out for ages against vastly superior troops.

Everything is a trade of; make it this way and China will fall within 6 months - make it that way and the Allies can capture islands and atolls much easier than in real life. Finding a balance is very challenging.

To me it looks like you're well ahead of schedule already though!



itīs not as much as the defenderīs adjusted av that makes me think (usually, when I donīt see 270 base av adjusted to 2800 av when there are also two or three negative multipliers), itīs the constant 1/4-1/3 adjusted av my units get when being 100% prepped, supplied, etc without getting any negative or positive multipliers. Thatīs what I donīt understand. Having two Marine or US Inf divs getting 250 adjusted av on average is a bit off IMO.

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Status: offline 		It's hard to understand how AV modifiers work in AE, the only thing I can see in your last assault is that you don't have a HQ present. Probably got a bad dice roll....

I think hitting a small LCU in a huge jungle hex usually would mean bombing a lot of jungle

Well, if medium bomber pool is empty I'd say you would have to do without for a while!-)
Have you lost them all or converted them to ship bombers?


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It's hard to understand how AV modifiers work in AE, the only thing I can see in your last assault is that you don't have a HQ present. Probably got a bad dice roll....

I think hitting a small LCU in a huge jungle hex usually would mean bombing a lot of jungle

Well, if medium bomber pool is empty I'd say you would have to do without for a while!-)
Have you lost them all or converted them to ship bombers?



there is no HQ, thatīs correct. IIRC Iīve got 4! HQs for the whole US Army to use, all are of course prepping for a target (important ones). Bad die rolls? On 15 pages of AAR all the time? Hmm. Talking about the invasions Iīve done...

no, Iīm playing the Allied side, which means I canīt "produce" 200 medium bombers a month like the Japanese are doing, Iīm stuck with 200 B-25C for the whole war. Now the B-25D1 is the only 2E bomber for the USAAF and thatīs an attack bomber. And, like Iīve said, attack bombers go in at 100ft all the time, hence you should not use them against any Japanese base with at least a bit of defense. Leaves me with the 48 B-24 for the USAAF for all tasks.

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no, Iīm playing the Allied side, which means I canīt "produce" 200 medium bombers a month like the Japanese are doing, Iīm stuck with 200 B-25C for the whole war. Now the B-25D1 is the only 2E bomber for the USAAF and thatīs an attack bomber. And, like Iīve said, attack bombers go in at 100ft all the time, hence you should not use them against any Japanese base with at least a bit of defense. Leaves me with the 48 B-24 for the USAAF for all tasks.


Its to late now for you, but i've not see any HRs that are stops the allied side of pressing the upgrade button, changing it not to upgrade for the B-25C Factory. That way u will keep getting 20 B-25Cs per month. Better than nothing if u wish to avoid the ABs.
The allied side actually do have some, tho not alot, of choices in this.

Kind regards,

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Sub attack near Balikpapan at 65,98

Japanese Ships
PB Banshu Maru #56, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Barb



SS Barb launches 6 torpedoes at PB Banshu Maru #56
Sub escapes detection

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Sub attack near Torishima at 106,68

Japanese Ships
TK Kurume Maru
PB Karimo Maru
PB Mikitade Maru
PB Toyokuni Maru

Allied Ships
SS Harder


SS Harder launches 6 torpedoes at TK Kurume Maru
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Toyokuni Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Toyokuni Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Toyokuni Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Toyokuni Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Toyokuni Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Toyokuni Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

duds...

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Sub attack near Kochi at 107,63

Japanese Ships
TK Amahi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
E W-10

Allied Ships
SS Drum



SS Drum launches 6 torpedoes at TK Amahi Maru
Drum diving deep ....
E W-10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

a couple of hexes from the previous attack Drum is more succesful... nice

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ASW attack near Perth at 41,147

Japanese Ships
SS I-32

Allied Ships
AM Pieter de Bitter



SS I-32 is located by AM Pieter de Bitter
AM Pieter de Bitter fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Pieter de Bitter fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Pieter de Bitter fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Pieter de Bitter fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Pieter de Bitter fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 25


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet

spotted a single freighter in the area and hoped to find some Cap...

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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 24


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
24 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Rahaeng , at 58,56

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 13



Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 7
P-38G Lightning x 49


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet
24 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet
16 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet

CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters to 36000.
Raid is overhead

both P-38G squadrons and 7 P-38F flew together today... 13 Tojos encountered and we had NO dive phase... wow... we had lots of Lightnings damaged, one was shot down over the target with another two crashing on the runway... one of the very very rare events when you miss the dive even though youīre coming in like a sattelite...

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Morning Air attack on Rahaeng , at 58,56

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 13
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4



Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 7
P-38F Lightning x 7


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 4 destroyed




Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet

CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 12 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36750
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters between 34000 and 38740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes

the rest of the Lightnings show up, getting the dive, shredding the enemy...

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Morning Air attack on Hengyang , at 80,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 24
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 21



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 33


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

the Lightnings are followed by the heavy bombers, no enemy ac are destroyed... only some Babs or Dinah at the base I guess...

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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Lunga , at 114,138

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 27
B-26B Marauder x 26


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...


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Morning Air attack on Lunga , at 114,138

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 17


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...


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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6



Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 40


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Port hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 32810
Raid is overhead

Zero LRCAP isnīt really worth putting up... I will try to fly a Corsair sweep from time to time but I doubt weīre going to be lucky enough to catch the enemy fighters at some point as itīs a rare event to see them over Darwin... the heavies were unimpressed...





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Sub attack near Daito Shoto at 98,68

Japanese Ships
E Sokuten
E Naryu
E Nuwashima
E Yurijima

Allied Ships
SS Finback, hits 1



SS Finback launches 6 torpedoes at E Sokuten
E Nuwashima attacking submerged sub ....
E Yurijima fails to find sub and abandons search
E Nuwashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Nuwashima attacking submerged sub ....
E Nuwashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Nuwashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Nuwashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub





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quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

no, Iīm playing the Allied side, which means I canīt "produce" 200 medium bombers a month like the Japanese are doing, Iīm stuck with 200 B-25C for the whole war. Now the B-25D1 is the only 2E bomber for the USAAF and thatīs an attack bomber. And, like Iīve said, attack bombers go in at 100ft all the time, hence you should not use them against any Japanese base with at least a bit of defense. Leaves me with the 48 B-24 for the USAAF for all tasks.


Its to late now for you, but i've not see any HRs that are stops the allied side of pressing the upgrade button, changing it not to upgrade for the B-25C Factory. That way u will keep getting 20 B-25Cs per month. Better than nothing if u wish to avoid the ABs.
The allied side actually do have some, if not alot, of choices in this.

Kind regards,

Rasmus



the B-25C got an on map factory??? Oh, damn, I thought it would be replacements only, I didnīt think about having the choice to stop factory upgrading. Keeping 20 B-25C in production would have been great, not a lot but still better than to drown in attack bombers you "canīt use". I couldnīt even think about being able to stop auto upgrading as the Allied.

nice tip Rasmus, going to keep that in mind for my next PBEM for sure. Makes looking at the aircraft replacement list more important, especially to have a look at what ac are replacements and which are produced onmap.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 8/12/2010 6:12:49 PM   
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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 8/13/2010 8:05:09 AM   
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I've never even thought to do that. Yet another thing learned.



these are the things you find out in your first PBEM. With a couple of other things learnt, the next PBEM will see lots of things different. Thatīs what makes the first PBEM so interesting though, you really suffer from your bad decisions.

The whole medium / attack bomber issue still causes me headache though because I havenīt figured out yet how to support my heavies. Am getting limited USN bomber squadron replacements but having three or four Ventura squadrons for ground attacks only will be too few and the USNīs main task is anti shipping (while the USAAFīs main task is ground attack). Leaves me with quite some Australian bomber squadrons but many of them are restricted and the Australian bomber squadrons are my "long range" torpedo bomber squadrons equipped with Beauforts being able to carry torps up to 8 hexes. Using these squadrons on ground attacks is a nogo so I could use one or two B-25 squadrons (non attack bomber) but the replacement rate of 4 bombers each month will soon end such a task.

At the moment I got 9 USAAF medium bomber squadrons in the frontline equipped with medium (level) bombers but they will all run out of replacements within the next couple of weeks. After that, I can only either upgrade them to 4Es or attack bombers. Attack bombers can only be used against ships or really lightly defended targets but these usually arenīt worth an attack anyway. At some point I will end up with attack bomber squadrons and 4E squadrons only I guess and thatīs for sure not what I like.

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ASW attack near Kochi at 105,63

Japanese Ships
E Hato
DD Okikaze
E Kamo

Allied Ships
SS Cabrilla



SS Cabrilla is sighted by escort
DD Okikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E Kamo fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Hachijo-jima at 114,64

Japanese Ships
DD Minekaze
E Matsuwa

Allied Ships
SS Herring



SS Herring launches 6 torpedoes at DD Minekaze
Herring diving deep ....
DD Minekaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E Matsuwa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Matsuwa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Matsuwa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Matsuwa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Matsuwa fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Daito Shoto at 102,68

Japanese Ships
DD Sawakaze
TK Okuni Maru
DD Akikaze

Allied Ships
SS Scorpion



SS Scorpion launches 6 torpedoes at DD Sawakaze
Scorpion diving deep ....
DD Akikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akikaze loses contact with SS Scorpion
DD Akikaze cannot establish contact with SS Scorpion
DD Akikaze cannot reach attack position over SS Scorpion
DD Akikaze cannot reach attack position over SS Scorpion
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze attacking submerged sub ....
SS Scorpion eludes ASW attack from DD Akikaze
DD Akikaze cannot reach attack position over SS Scorpion
DD Akikaze cannot establish contact with SS Scorpion
DD Akikaze loses contact with SS Scorpion
SS Scorpion eludes DD Akikaze by diving deep
Escort abandons search for sub

we only achieve misses or 75%+ duds if we actually hit DDs... which again leaves me with the question if the message about duds actually is correct or not because this seems like really bad die rolls... could misses be shown as duds too?

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ASW attack near Truk at 110,108

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 5
SC Ch 10

Allied Ships
SS Saury



SS Saury is sighted by escort
Saury diving deep ....
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Morning Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 38,740 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 30



Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 15


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 36740 feet

CAP engaged:
49th FG/9th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
18th FG/12th FS with P-40K Warhawk (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Raid is overhead
35th FG/40th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes

hmm... so much about US radar, seems not to help me either... not a dozen sets like in Burma here at Gasmata but at least weīve got four of them... I was stupid enough to have P-40K at the base flying Cap to cover an incoming convoy, out of 75 P-40K we see a whopping number of 15 getting airborne... nice ratio... these 15 were all shot to pieces without a single Tojo damaged... the usual dive massacre... got more than twice the number of fighters at the base than the enemy got incoming, four radar sets and the layered Cap people seem to dream about as a counter to the sattelites... result was the never ending dive on my first squadron, followed by the never ending dive on my second squadron, followed by the never ending dive on my third squadron... every single P-40K was either damaged or shot down... 100% vs not even a single damaged Tojo... same as my opponent, Iīve just lost any mood to put up fighters on Cap at all, mine are all shot to pieces by Oscar II and Tojos (they fly higher than my fighters on Cap) and his are shot to pieces at the same idiotic ratio all the time by my Lightnings and the P-47 we can field now (getting 75 as replacement squadrons and production starts in 7/43)... WITP for sure brought up more realistic kill ratios in such engagements than AE does... and thereīs only one reason for it...


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Morning Air attack on Hengyang , at 80,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 17
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 24
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 21



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 14
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

thank you for keeping these aircraft in China... while China has been a backwater theatre, with hundreds of thousand supplies having found itīs way there through Burma, we are in preparation of a big offensive to end the Sitzkrieg and weīre planning for a massive assault onto Liuchow in the South West. Itīs a clear hex and weīve spotted 8 enemy units there. Weīre going to field 12,000!! av, 8,000av will be fully prepped for the base. Plan is to break through here asap and then march on the road to Nanning and fughter on to Hanoi. This should then threaten Vietnamīs coast and further on put a threat onto the enemy positions in Thailand. Result should be 5,000 enemy av being withdrawn from the Moulmein - Chiang Mai area to counter the Chinese hordes and give the British/Indian troops a chance to achieve something on their front...

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Morning Air attack on Gasmata , at 103,127

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 39,740 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 36740 feet

3 more Tojos show up and none of my fighters scrambles?

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Afternoon Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 26


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 12


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 7


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

we keep on dropping bombs into the jungle... who needs Agent Orange? Weīve got TNT...




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Afternoon Air attack on Lunga , at 114,138

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 9


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 22


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 16


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged



Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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ASW attack near Gebe at 80,104

Japanese Ships
TK Matsumoto Maru
PB Showa Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS Gudgeon



SS Gudgeon is sighted by escort
Gudgeon diving deep ....
PB Showa Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Showa Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Showa Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Showa Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Showa Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

the silent service failed comletely today...

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Ground combat at Lunga (114,138)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 24497 troops, 615 guns, 267 vehicles, Assault Value = 811

Defending force 9922 troops, 36 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 250

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 222

Japanese adjusted defense: 2243

Allied assault odds: 1 to 10 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
674 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
502 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 67 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled


Assaulting units:
2nd Marine Division
3rd Marine Division
104th USN Base Force
119th USAAF Base Force

Defending units:
14th Division
9th Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd JNAF AF Unit


in this case you donīt have to care much about the adjusted av, even though Iīm still of the opinion that itīs quite odd to have no negative multiplier at all but again having the base av shred to 1/3... in the long run the enemy base will fall but it will take a hell a lot of attacks until the enemy finally will be worn down enough to see them getting an adjusted av of only 100 because I doubt ours will ever get any better than 300 at best... prepping seems to only help for the invasion but not for the fighting... Even if the enemy unit is rated as a division, itīs only a division on paper... more or less no heavy weapons and totally understrenght... two Marine divs got a real hard time to overcome such an enemy, which again brings me to the point of trying to have 3 inf divs plus support for our upcoming assaults...



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Sub attack near Hilo at 203,123

Japanese Ships
SS I-7

Allied Ships
DE Paul Jones
DE John D. Edwards
TK Merula
TK Marpessa
TK William H. Berg
TK Stanvac Manila
TK Connecticut
TK Larry Doheny
TK L.P. St. Clair
DE Gilmer
DE Pope
DE Fox



SS I-7 launches 2 torpedoes at DE Paul Jones
I-7 diving deep ....
DE Gilmer fails to find sub and abandons search
DE Pope fails to find sub and abandons search
DE Paul Jones fails to find sub and abandons search
DE Fox fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Fox fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Fox fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Fox attacking submerged sub ....
DE Fox fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

one of our huge tanker convoys runs over a sub again, glad one of the 8 DE was targetted and missed... two dozen DCs dropped in return but none came even close to damaging the sub... Iīve got three really big tanker convoys shuttling between the US West Coast and Australia, I would not want to have one run into enemy carriers or a big surface combat force... the chances for this are very small considering the routes my tankers take but everytime one of the convoys is spotted by an enemy sub Iīm a little bit concerned...

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Morning Air attack on 73rd Chinese Corps, at 74,54

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 8
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 21



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 73rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 6th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 73rd Chinese Corps ...

the enemy has now started to bomb my ground units that are marching on Liuchow... the number of units should already be alerting for the enemy but without any road or rail connnection to the South or East of Japanese held territory there is no chance for the enemy to bring in lots of reinforcements soon...

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Morning Air attack on Lunga , at 114,138

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 26
B-26B Marauder x 13


Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...

we keep up the daily runs on Lunga...

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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 9
B-26B Marauder x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 37,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 11


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 36800 feet *

have set the four Corsair squadrons at Gove to do a sightseeing flight over Darwin...

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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 39,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 11


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 36800 feet *



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 38,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 11


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 36800 feet *



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 39,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 11


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 36800 feet *



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 22


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

followed by our bombers... that kind of damage done isnīt enough as I guess all the enemy engineers there are bringing the damage down faster as we can actually cause it...

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Afternoon Air attack on Manus , at 101,119

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 21


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 46

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

thatīs where the Tojos came from that shot our P-40K over Gasmata to pieces... as usual, the enemy employs hit and run tactics and heīs doing good...

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Afternoon Air attack on Manus , at 101,119

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 10


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 15


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 25
F4F-3P Wildcat x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Manus , at 101,119

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 16


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Ground combat at Darwin (76,124)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 58086 troops, 908 guns, 1619 vehicles, Assault Value = 2642

Defending force 55633 troops, 444 guns, 672 vehicles, Assault Value = 1893

Japanese ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (3 destroyed, 8 disabled)


Assaulting units:
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
2nd Australian Division
762nd Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
763rd Tank Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
4th Australian Division
2/11th Armoured Car Battalion
2/4th Armoured Regiment
3rd Army Tank Brigade
2/7th Armoured Regiment
3rd Australian Division
2/6th Armoured Regiment
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade
2/8th Armoured Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
2/10th Armoured Regiment
5th Australian Division
1st Australian Division
193rd Tank Battalion
4th Armoured Brigade
1st Motor Brigade
197th Coast AA Regiment
1st Australian Army
2nd Australian Army
16th RAAF Base Force
I Australian Corps
209th Field Artillery Battalion
183rd Field Artillery Regiment
10th RAAF Base Force
70th Coast AA Regiment
188th Field Artillery Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
94th Coast AA Regiment
II Australian Corps
205th Field Artillery Battalion
216th Coast AA Regiment
2nd RAN Base Force
198th Field Artillery Battalion
154th FA Bn
40th Field Artillery Regiment
III Australian Corps
4th Field Artillery Battalion
1st RAN Base Force
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
2nd RAAF M/W Sqn
181st Field Artillery Regiment
30th Field Artillery Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
114th USAAF Base Force
96th Coast AA Regiment
148th Field Artillery Battalion
503rd Coast AA Regiment
97th Field Artillery Battalion
226th Field Artillery Battalion
198th Coast AA Regiment
21/22 Field Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
13th Australian Hvy AA Regiment

Defending units:
21st Division
8th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
5th Division
54th Division
18th Division
16th Division
14th Tank Regiment
40th JNAF AF Unit /1
11th JAAF Base Force
16th AA Regiment
16th Army
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Bn /3


have ordered an intelligence bombardment today... the enemy still seems to have four full divisions at Darwin that are backed up by some tanks... considering probable level 6 forts thereīs not much my force can do here as long as the enemy got supplies... and as long as flak is firing, the enemy does have supplies... with two of the units only being fragments anymore, it seems that some kind of evacuation has been going on (or still is)... what is interesting though is the lack of aviation units though because that will make any big style Cap attempt over Darwin for a couple of days impossible I guess so I wonder how Rainer is planning to bring these troops back out again... airtransport only? I will keep an eye on the situation and it can only be a win win situation for us... the main goal is to take Darwin, destroying these units is only secondary... evacuating all of the units will be impossible with our force steadily growing in the area and leaving back only one or two divisions will end up in an enemy defeat pretty fast... and if the enemy is only kept in place we can also think about bypassing them... having these four divisions here surely will hurt sooner than later IMO...

nearly the whole US artillery units in the Pacific at this place now without any effect other than giving us intel... the meager counterfire caused more destroyed squads/equipment of course...


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TF 269 encounters mine field at Rabaul (106,125) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
25 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
AM Dubbo, Shell hits 2
AM Cowra, Shell hits 4, on fire
AM Bowen, Shell hits 2
AM Benalla, Shell hits 6



2nd Provisional Base Force firing at AM Dubbo
AM Dubbo firing at 2nd Provisional Base Force
AM Cowra firing at 2nd Provisional Base Force
2nd Provisional Base Force firing at AM Cowra
AM Bowen firing at 2nd Provisional Base Force
2nd Provisional Base Force firing at AM Bowen
AM Benalla firing at 2nd Provisional Base Force
2nd Provisional Base Force firing at AM Benalla
16 mines cleared

preparations for the upcoming assault on Rabaul... I was amazed when I noticed CD firing on my minesweepers... all of them are damaged, none is anywhere near sinking condition... this was alerting though as I didnīt expect any CD fire to be honest... we wonīt invade that place anytime soon so I guess some more mines will whittle away until the invasion, the same is true for the available supply... Iīm going to take the bases to the East and North East first (Namatanai and Kavieng) and place LBA there as this would make any enemy intervention of my Rabaul invasion a super dangerous task... Weīre going to have a couple of hundred Hellcats by then, 100 B-25D1 attack bombers on Gasmata and could place a hundred Corsairs with SBDs and Beauforts at Kavieng. Namatanai could further support us with fighters... as the enemy hasnīt intervened with our landings in the Solomons, I donīt expect him to act against an invasion of Rabaul either as this would just be a kamikaze move IMO... 30 enemy units at Rabaul, weīve got several divs, a HQ and support units prepping for the target...

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Sub attack near Balabac at 69,83

Japanese Ships
E Shimakaze
E Karukaya
E Asagao

Allied Ships
SS Guardfish



SS Guardfish launches 6 torpedoes at E Shimakaze
Guardfish diving deep ....
E Karukaya attacking submerged sub ....
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Karukaya fails to find sub and abandons search
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Asagao attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Moppo at 99,53

Japanese Ships
PB Tatsumi Maru

Allied Ships
SS Cabrilla



SS Cabrilla is sighted by escort
Cabrilla bottoming out ....
PB Tatsumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Yokohama/Yokosuka at 114,63

Japanese Ships
E Ishigaki, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
E Shimushu

Allied Ships
SS Pompon



SS Pompon launches 6 torpedoes at E Ishigaki
Pompon diving deep ....
E Shimushu fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Shimushu fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Shimushu fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Shimushu fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Shimushu fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

a rare but delighting event...

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Sub attack near Perth at 41,147

Japanese Ships
SS I-32

Allied Ships
AM Jan van Amstel, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AM Bobolink
AM Pieter de Bitter



SS I-32 launches 6 torpedoes at AM Jan van Amstel
I-32 diving deep ....
AM Pieter de Bitter fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Pieter de Bitter fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Pieter de Bitter fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Pieter de Bitter attacking submerged sub ....
AM Pieter de Bitter cannot reach attack position over SS I-32
AM Pieter de Bitter fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

we lose another minesweeper on ASW duty off Perth...

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Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 39,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 34



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
34 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 36750 feet

no thanks, no Cap in the air...

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Morning Air attack on Lunga , at 114,138

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 33
B-26B Marauder x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking 9th Ind. Engr Rgt /2 ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 114,138 (Lunga)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 6


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 54th Chinese Corps, at 74,54

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 15
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 15



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 31


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 32

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 26


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 37

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 27


Japanese aircraft losses
H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed on ground


Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 15


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 15


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 10


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 5 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

lots of really dispersed strikes...

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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 3 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Ground combat at Darwin (76,124)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 57929 troops, 908 guns, 1616 vehicles, Assault Value = 2634

Defending force 55063 troops, 442 guns, 672 vehicles, Assault Value = 1873

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 49 (12 destroyed, 37 disabled)

this is so nuts... thank god Iīve just recently read on the main forum that the devs are sure the artillery model is realistic... hmm... what have they been thinking about the originally designed nuclear artillery in AEīs release then? Doing this comment because one of my tank units was totally shredded today! A dozen tanks destroyed and the rest was disabled... heck, thatīs so stupid... forget about aritllery in this game! DONīT USE IT! Youīre better off not using it at all... wonder what this tank unit was doing to be shredded just because we ordered a bombardment...


Assaulting units:
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
2/11th Armoured Car Battalion
2/6th Armoured Regiment
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade
2/8th Armoured Regiment
193rd Tank Battalion
2/4th Armoured Regiment
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
4th Armoured Brigade
3rd Australian Division
2/10th Armoured Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
1st Australian Division
763rd Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
2nd Australian Division
4th Australian Division
2/7th Armoured Regiment
5th Australian Division
3rd Army Tank Brigade
1st Motor Brigade
216th Coast AA Regiment
226th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd RAAF M/W Sqn
198th Field Artillery Battalion
197th Coast AA Regiment
70th Coast AA Regiment
205th Field Artillery Battalion
96th Coast AA Regiment
III Australian Corps
I Australian Corps
21/22 Field Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
II Australian Corps
249th Field Artillery Battalion
40th Field Artillery Regiment
16th RAAF Base Force
2nd Australian Army
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
114th USAAF Base Force
97th Field Artillery Battalion
4th Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd RAN Base Force
188th Field Artillery Regiment
1st RAN Base Force
209th Field Artillery Battalion
94th Coast AA Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
30th Field Artillery Regiment
503rd Coast AA Regiment
154th FA Bn
10th RAAF Base Force
1st Australian Army
183rd Field Artillery Regiment
181st Field Artillery Regiment
198th Coast AA Regiment
13th Australian Hvy AA Regiment

Defending units:
5th Division
8th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
16th Division
21st Division
18th Division
54th Division
14th Tank Regiment
11th JAAF Base Force
16th AA Regiment
16th Army
40th JNAF AF Unit /1
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Bn /3

the reason for the back to back artillery use was to see if the enemy is doing air transports and this seems to be the case... the enemyīs troop strenght dropped by 570 troops and the av by 20 points in one day... thatīs fine with me... the enemy suffered a couple of IJAAF transports lost too which supports my assumption of air evac here... the enemy transports are probably coming from Timor, Dili is a level 6 airfield, which is a pretty big airfield for the Japanese as Rainer usually hasnīt built up his fields...

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Ground combat at Lunga (114,138)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 24129 troops, 615 guns, 267 vehicles, Assault Value = 795

Defending force 9237 troops, 32 guns, 67 vehicles, Assault Value = 213

Allied adjusted assault: 622

Japanese adjusted defense: 689

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
970 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled


Allied ground losses:
231 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
2nd Marine Division
3rd Marine Division
104th USN Base Force
119th USAAF Base Force

Defending units:
14th Division
2nd JNAF AF Unit
9th Ind. Engr Rgt /2

wow, we get an adjusted av of 75%...



< Message edited by castor troy -- 8/13/2010 1:22:53 PM >

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 8/13/2010 4:46:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		To any one that might have gotten the wrong impression and avoid any confusion i might have been wrong about the whole not upgrading factories idea.

Read: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2546210&mpage=1&key=&#2547252

As i've never tested it i dunno if Ckammp are correct or not, but if he are it will in effect just stop production, keeping the old production plane.
Its certainly worth testing.

Kind regards,

Rasmus

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 8/14/2010 6:30:56 PM   
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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 8/15/2010 8:02:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: castor troy

hmm. would be interesting to know if the "old" ac stays in production if you turn auto upgrade off


Tested and answered in pic below. No reason why it wouldnt work for any planes, at leased that i can think of.

Hijack off,

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 8/16/2010 7:29:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		excellent news Walloc!

Now I only have to figure out how I can turn back the couple of months to get back to B-25C production... the game is a couple of weeks ahead the AAR and I made use of the B-25D1 on ground attack and found out they donīt work at all for me. Used up to 48 bombers against a base without any real enemy resistance and they usually achieve only one or two hits on the runway. Thatīs totally borked it seems, while they do gain a point of strafe in these attacks now and then you canīt use them against ground targets it seems. Granted, I never trained them in lowgnd but I didnīt do that with my level bombers either and they can hit an airfield if they attack with skill right out of school if they do level bombing from 10,000ft... not possible for crews when attacking at 100ft or what?

not only have I feared the attack bombers would be useless due to them attacking at 100ft and therefore would be chewed up by flak and balloons, no, itīs even worse, they canīt hit anything at 100ft. Now Iīve got them all at lownav skill 70 but havenīt seen a nav attack yet. As it stands now, I wonder if thereīs something borked and they need 70 skill in strafe to hit something at 100ft. And you know what, you canīt train bombers on strafe! Tried it with training on 100ft, doesnīt work.

Now I only want to see my first couple of B-25D1 squadrons flying a lownav attack with 70 skill and not hitting the broadside of a barn and you will see me crying about something seriously broken. And all Iīm going to get until late 44 are these friging attack bombers you have no use for...

holy crap, they were killers in combined attacks on airfields in real life and in the game, they are just 100% rubbish...

as a side note, the skill gaining seems to be borked anyway, because I had my bombers on "naval attack" as primary mission and "airfield attack" as secondary mission. Now which skill do you think my crews gained? Strafe and lowgnd? NO! Naval attack and strafe!!!! So even if they fly a lowgnd attack, they gain navattack skill! Not even lownav but NAV!

PLEASE give me B-25 level bombers, every attack bomber just sucks. Nice idea but a shot in your foot.

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ASW attack near Gunzan at 100,51

Japanese Ships
PB Tatsumi Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Toa Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tunny



SS Tunny launches 4 torpedoes at PB Tatsumi Maru
Sub escapes detection

a single escort it seems... that would be the chance to take a shot at the convoy...

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Sub attack near Boela at 80,109

Japanese Ships
xAK Tofuku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
PB Kure Maru #5

Allied Ships
SS KXVI



SS KXVI launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Tofuku Maru
KXVI diving deep ....
PB Kure Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kure Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kure Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kure Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kure Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Dutch boat scores...

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Sub attack near Boela at 80,109

Japanese Ships
PB Kure Maru #5

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, hits 1



SS KXVI launches 4 torpedoes
KXVI diving deep ....
PB Kure Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kure Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kure Maru #5 attacking submerged sub ....
SS KXVI eludes PB Kure Maru #5 by diving deep
PB Kure Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kure Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

then dares to fire a salvo at the escort but missed...

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Sub attack near Saishu To at 99,56

Japanese Ships
xAK Nansin Maru
xAK Toei Maru
xAK Sakido Maru
xAK Zuisyo Maru
xAK Chile Maru
PB Ryusei Maru

Allied Ships
SS Drum



SS Drum launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Nansin Maru
Drum diving deep ....
PB Ryusei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Ryusei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Ryusei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Ryusei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Ryusei Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

duds...

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ASW attack near Cooktown at 94,136

Japanese Ships
SS RO-63, hits 14, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DE Express



SS RO-63 is sighted by escort
DE Express attacking submerged sub ....
Debris floats to surface in area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub

and a sub thatīs probably sunk... number of enemy subs around New Guinea, Solomons and Aussie East Coast have gone down dramatically, looks like my ASW has done a good job... guess the enemy subs are now again in the Pacific trying to get a shot at my shipping deep in the South Pacific but that will be a hard task as nearly none of the convoys uses the same route as another one... and itīs quite a long way for the enemy subs...

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Morning Air attack on Saumlaki , at 78,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 21


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
21 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet

nothing in the air unfortunetely...

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Morning Air attack on Saumlaki , at 78,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 22


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet



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Morning Air attack on 1st New Chinese Corps, at 74,54

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 8
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 21



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 37th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 1st New Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 37th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 1st New Chinese Corps ...


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Morning Air attack on Saumlaki , at 78,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 42


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 41

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Saumlaki , at 78,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Saumlaki , at 78,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

another lucky shot claims a bomber...

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Morning Air attack on Saumlaki , at 78,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Saumlaki , at 78,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Lunga , at 114,138

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 26
B-26B Marauder x 15


Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking 9th Ind. Engr Rgt /2 ...
Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 9th Ind. Engr Rgt /2 ...
Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking 9th Ind. Engr Rgt /2 ...
Also attacking 2nd JNAF AF Unit ...


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Morning Air attack on Lunga , at 114,138

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 9
B-26B Marauder x 12


Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 damaged



Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Lunga ...


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Morning Air attack on Saumlaki , at 78,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Saumlaki , at 78,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Saumlaki , at 78,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

nothing but dispersed strikes today...

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Morning Air attack on Saumlaki , at 78,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 6


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet
3 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet



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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 42


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 11 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

and bad weather that prevents us from achieving something...

the way weīre using our bombers causes too many losses to keep up with the losses... receiving 1.5 each day so losing four is definetely too much...







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