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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/23/2010 3:24:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: crsutton]I just wish my Allied ship based flak worked. Almost a waste of time upgrading ships.

Yeah. It is weird though, IIRC flak in WITP was pretty good.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/23/2010 4:03:52 PM

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I concur. The bettys and nells just don't seem to be the killers that they were in WITP. This is the way it should be. I just wish my Allied ship based flak worked. Almost a waste of time upgrading ships.

The game is a month ahead of the AAR and we had the next carrier engagement, don�t gonna tell the outcome nor any other details at the moment except the fact that I had a couple of TFs, all underwent all upgrades, we had some 65-70,000 AA value (no joke) but our flak was more than pathetic. Don�t know when VT fuses are available but if they don�t make flak at least three times deadlier then it doesn�t matter if your ships field two 1.1 inch or five dozen 40mm Bofors.

Betties, Nells, Kates and Jills are as deadly as in WITP when they actually attack your ships IMO, but if they�re land based, they usually end up in rather dispersed strikes and that�s what makes them "easy prey". You don�t want to see a hundred of them getting through your Cap as this is then exactly what has happened in our carrier engagement when the Kates killed my fleet.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/23/2010 4:07:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: EUBanana

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ORIGINAL: crsutton]I just wish my Allied ship based flak worked. Almost a waste of time upgrading ships.

Yeah. It is weird though, IIRC flak in WITP was pretty good.

really? While having probably played 90% of my WITP PBEM as Japanese I can�t really remember flak being that much of a threat, or the uber Cap was just covering my fear of flak. At least stock flak is nothing I can really remember, Nikmod flak is another thing.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/23/2010 4:43:08 PM

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Well, its better than it was in AE I recall. A lot of damaging hits at least which would throw off accuracy.

I remember a Brit CVTF fighting mini KB and the Brits with a really high flak rating (from 3 or 4 CVs in one TF, and Brit CVs pack a lot of guns), the flak saved their bacon.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/24/2010 8:02:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: EUBanana

Well, its better than it was in AE I recall. A lot of damaging hits at least which would throw off accuracy.

I remember a Brit CVTF fighting mini KB and the Brits with a really high flak rating (from 3 or 4 CVs in one TF, and Brit CVs pack a lot of guns), the flak saved their bacon.

yeah, having flak effect the accuracy of bombers in AE is one of the nice steps forward compared to WITP. If it works.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/24/2010 8:17:04 AM

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In WITP flak from all guns on a ship would fire at oncoming bombers.

In AE it's been changed so only guns facing the side which the bomber is attacking from fire.

So the number of guns actually firing in AE has been more than halved I imagine.

As I doubt the AA gun effect has been razzed up at all to compensate, that is probably why AA fire seems quite gutless. I think even in WITP it was probably too ineffective, so now it's half of that.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/24/2010 10:22:03 AM

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any clue when exactly the VT fuses are available in game? Guess this is the time when flak will become more dangerous, or dangerous at all.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/24/2010 11:38:14 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 21, 43
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ASW attack near Tanegashima at 102,63

Japanese Ships
AO Tsurumi
AO Notoro
TK San Luis Maru
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships
SS Runner, hits 3

SS Runner is sighted by escort
DD Hatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Runner tried to attack a high value target but is hit and retires with 31 sys / 24 flt...

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ASW attack near Koshiki-jima Retto at 100,60

Japanese Ships
E Hashidate
E Susuki
E Natsushima
E Uji

Allied Ships
SS Halibut

SS Halibut is located by E Hashidate
E Natsushima fails to find sub and abandons search
E Uji fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Uji fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Uji fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Uji fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Brunei at 66,85

Japanese Ships
DD Shinonome
DD Murakumo
DD Isonami

Allied Ships
SS Grayling

SS Grayling is located by DD Shinonome
Grayling diving deep ....
DD Murakumo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Isonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Isonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Isonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Isonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Isonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Isonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Obi at 76,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Sinno Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 30 (11 destroyed, 19 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

an amazingly large strike attacks a TF of around 20 ships going towards Ambon... troop convoy, would be great to actually attack it with all we�ve got...

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 58

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 5th Div /1 ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking Darwin ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking Darwin ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 8th Tank Regiment ...

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Morning Air attack on 201st JAAF AF Bn , at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 72

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 44th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 201st JAAF AF Bn ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 44th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 201st JAAF AF Bn ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 201st JAAF AF Bn ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 44th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 44th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 201st JAAF AF Bn ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...

training

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Morning Air attack on 44th JNAF AF Unit , at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 1

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 39th Field AA Battalion, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 19

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 39th Field AA Battalion, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 42,740 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 19
P-40K Warhawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.60 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
No.79 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
23rd FG/75th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes

moved a "cap trap" to Vinh to catch som enemy bombers but first the Tojos show up and bounce us... outnumbering them 4+:1 we were finally able to overwhelm them, resulting in a 1:1 losses... wonder if I should rate that as a success considering the numbers involved...

of course we weren�t lucky to also see some bombers showing up today... mmm...

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Afternoon Air attack on 14th Chinese Corps, at 58,61 (Nakhon Ratchasima)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 31

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Haiphong , at 68,57

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 40,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 18

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Obi at 76,106

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 1 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 10

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAKL Ganges Maru, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
xAK Nagato Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAKL Kitahuku Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

while there were only 4 out of 48 bombers attacking in the morning phase, in the afternoon we launch a mega strike to attack this troop convoy without any air cover... 10 USN long range bombers show up hitting the helpless freighters hard, but 80% of the convoy is untouched even though all conditions would just be fine... no wonder our bomber crews got 99 morale as they just never attack... can�t find any more agressive leaders for them...

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Sub attack near Saishu To at 99,56

Japanese Ships
xAKL Bunzan Maru
SC CHa-44

Allied Ships
SS Tullibee

Captain of SS Tullibee elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
Tullibee diving deep ....
SC CHa-44 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-44 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-44 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-44 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-44 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Submarine attack near Obi at 76,106

Japanese Ships
xAK Nagato Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-42

xAK Nagato Maru is sighted by SS S-42
SS S-42 launches 4 torpedoes

then one of our subs sinks a freighter that was hit by bombs earlier... means most of the troops and supplies will reach Ambon... we had intel of at least three AA units being moved to Ambon and I bet this is exactly the convoy that is bringing in this troops... we could have easily obliberated it if our bombers would launch...

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Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 36607 troops, 666 guns, 861 vehicles, Assault Value = 1682

Defending force 17049 troops, 168 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 339

Allied adjusted assault: 454

Japanese adjusted defense: 37

Allied assault odds: 12 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1131 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 19 destroyed, 105 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

Allied ground losses:
276 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

Assaulting units:
37th Infantry Division
27th Infantry Division
14th NZ Brigade
18th British Division
131st Combat Engineer Regiment
151st Combat Engineer Regiment
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
7th Infantry Division
32nd Aviation Base Force
109th USN Base Force
I US Corps
24th USN Naval Construction Battalion
36th USN Naval Construction Battalion
26th USN Naval Construction Battalion
27th USN Naval Construction Battalion
147th USA Base Force
258th USAAF Base Force
35th USN Naval Construction Battalion
42nd USN Naval Construction Battalion

Defending units:
Sasebo 5th SNLF
4th Division
87th Naval Guard Unit
82nd Nav Gd /1
144th Infantry Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF /1
50th Fld AA Bn /1
5th Naval Construction Battalion
44th JNAF AF Unit
14th Naval Construction Battalion
201st JAAF AF Bn
5th Air Div /1
39th Fld AA Bn /1
43rd JNAF AF Unit
55th JNAF AF Unit
6th Naval Construction Battalion
49th Field AA Battalion
7th Naval Construction Battalion
56th Fld AA Bn /1

we�re going to kill off most of the remaining troops but will try not to destroy all of them to have some training targets for our attack bombers... other than for training we can�t use our attack bombers anyway until the patch is out and I wonder how they work then...

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/24/2010 12:18:46 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 22, 43
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Submarine attack near Bathurst Island at 77,123

Japanese Ships
SS RO-100

Allied Ships
LCT-322

LCT-322 is sighted by SS RO-100
SS RO-100 cannot acquire firing solution on enemy LCT

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Sub attack near Culion at 75,80

Japanese Ships
E Asagao
E Takashima
E Hoko

Allied Ships
SS Albacore

SS Albacore launches 6 torpedoes at E Asagao
Albacore diving deep ....
E Takashima fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Submarine attack near Bathurst Island at 77,123

Japanese Ships
SS RO-100

Allied Ships
LCT-159

LCT-159 is sighted by SS RO-100
SS RO-100 cannot acquire firing solution on enemy LCT

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 41,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 18

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 36750 feet

not surprising, after having Cap here yesterday with limited success, the enemy of course sent more sweeps today... we moved the fighters out immediately again...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 38,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 33

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
33 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 36750 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 39,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 17

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 39,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 36750 feet

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Selaroe at 78,118

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
LCT-140, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-139, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A6M5 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Zeroes work just fine in these attacks... two LCT attacked, both sunk... now I still wonder which skill is needed to score bomb hits during strafing attacks... to me it seems you need strafe skill, not lownav so you wouldn�t be able to train attack bomber crews at all in their BOMBERS as they can�t be trained on strafe in a bomber...

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Morning Air attack on 16th Chinese Corps, at 58,61 (Nakhon Ratchasima)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 17
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 5
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 31
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 54

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
348 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-21-IIb Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
32 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
31 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 7th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 80th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 14th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 59th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 57th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 16th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 7th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 80th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 14th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 59th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 16th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 7th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 80th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 14th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 16th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 7th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 14th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 80th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 14th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 59th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 16th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 7th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 80th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 14th Chinese Corps ...

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Morning Air attack on 16th Chinese Corps, at 58,61 (Nakhon Ratchasima)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
87 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-IIb Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 37,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 36750 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 37,740 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 5

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 36740 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 41,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *

the routine for these lost fragments of sweeps is also true for the Japanese... looks exactly the same for both sides...

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 24

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 28
P-40K Warhawk x 5

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 7th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 7th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 7th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...

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Morning Air attack on Dili , at 71,115

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 55

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
202 Ku S-1 Det A with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Dili , at 71,115

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
202 Ku S-1 Det A with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on 7th Naval Construction Battalion, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 44
P-40K Warhawk x 4

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 7th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 7th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 7th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 7th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...

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Morning Air attack on Dili , at 71,115

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
202 Ku S-1 Det A with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes

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Morning Air attack on 44th JNAF AF Unit , at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 24
P-40K Warhawk x 1

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 70th Chinese Corps, at 62,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ambon at 76,109

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 21
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 20
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 4

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAKL Ryuun Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Malacca Maru
xAK Ada Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (9 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
248th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (8 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
5th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIc Nick (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

now that the enemy TF reached Ambon and is under enemy fighter cover, our bombers start to attack... good idea indeed... the bombers are saved by the fact that land based radar isn�t working at all and with only 6 min pre warning most of our bombers got through... in total our bombers were hit really hard today, losing nearly halve a dozen highly skilled crews... not good, especially when you had the chance to obliberate the convoy BEFORE it reaches the base with fighter cover...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ambon at 76,109

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 16
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 2

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Florida Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Miyati Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 119 minutes
5th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIc Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 1000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 150 minutes
248th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 1000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes

now that 40% of our bombers attack in the morning, it would have been great to see one full effort attack going in as one as this would have also resulted in a far better result I guess... at least we would have had more punch against the enemy fighters...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ambon at 76,109

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 12
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 4

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAKL Tamaki Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
5th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIc Nick (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
248th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes

one of the reasons the Allied heavy bombers seem undefeatable IMO is the fact that many (if not most) fighters often don�t engage at all due to no prewarning time and being out of position... I guess this will also change with the next patch that should fix radar...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tockangbesi-eilanden at 70,110

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 4

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
PB Daibu Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 36404 troops, 666 guns, 861 vehicles, Assault Value = 1674

Defending force 16037 troops, 165 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 298

Allied adjusted assault: 333

Japanese adjusted defense: 17

Allied assault odds: 19 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1042 casualties reported
Squads: 51 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 64 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
321 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Vehicles lost 13 (3 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Assaulting units:
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
151st Combat Engineer Regiment
131st Combat Engineer Regiment
37th Infantry Division
18th British Division
27th Infantry Division
14th NZ Brigade
7th Infantry Division
258th USAAF Base Force
24th USN Naval Construction Battalion
32nd Aviation Base Force
35th USN Naval Construction Battalion
36th USN Naval Construction Battalion
109th USN Base Force
26th USN Naval Construction Battalion
27th USN Naval Construction Battalion
I US Corps
147th USA Base Force
42nd USN Naval Construction Battalion

Defending units:
87th Naval Guard Unit
4th Division
Sasebo 5th SNLF
82nd Nav Gd /1
144th Infantry Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF /1
50th Fld AA Bn /1
5th Naval Construction Battalion
7th Naval Construction Battalion
201st JAAF AF Bn
6th Naval Construction Battalion
55th JNAF AF Unit
39th Fld AA Bn /1
49th Field AA Battalion
44th JNAF AF Unit
5th Air Div /1
43rd JNAF AF Unit
14th Naval Construction Battalion
56th Fld AA Bn /1

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ASW attack near Balabac at 69,84

Japanese Ships
AO Toei Maru
AO Shinkoku Maru
AO Kyokuto Maru
AO Kokuyo Maru
DD Yuzuki

Allied Ships
SS Paddle, hits 1

SS Paddle is sighted by escort
Paddle diving deep ....
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Tanegashima at 104,68

Japanese Ships
TK Tatekawa Maru
PB Mikitade Maru

Allied Ships
SS Harder

SS Harder launches 6 torpedoes at TK Tatekawa Maru
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

two chances, both times unsuccesful...

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Sub attack near Fukue-jima at 100,59

Japanese Ships
E Uji
E Susuki
E Natsushima

Allied Ships
SS Halibut

SS Halibut launches 4 torpedoes at E Uji
E Natsushima fails to find sub and abandons search
E Uji fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Uji fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Fukue-jima at 100,59

Japanese Ships
E Hato
DD Okikaze
E Kamo

Allied Ships
SS Tullibee, hits 1

SS Tullibee is located by E Hato
Tullibee diving deep ....
DD Okikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E Kamo fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo attacking submerged sub ....
E Kamo fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

not that a good day for my subs, this one is knocked out, retiring with 16/35/13...

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Sub attack near Bathurst Island at 77,121

Japanese Ships
SS RO-100

Allied Ships
LCT-173, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage

LCT-173 is sighted by SS RO-100
SS RO-100 attacking LCT-173 on the surface
Dohihara, O. decides to submerge SS RO-100 due to damage

and we are losing more LCTs at the moment than we can replace...

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Sub attack near Salajar at 66,107

Japanese Ships
TK Kinshu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
PB Daibu Maru

Allied Ships
SS Narwhal, hits 1

SS Narwhal launches 4 torpedoes at TK Kinshu Maru
PB Daibu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Daibu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Daibu Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Daibu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Daibu Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

but we finally hit another tanker...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Selaroe at 77,119

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
LCT-166
LCT-167, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A6M5 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

hmm... have to think about countermeasures...

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Morning Air attack on 55th JNAF AF Unit , at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 44
P-40K Warhawk x 20

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...

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Morning Air attack on Boela , at 80,110

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 54

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
202 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead

now this attack was worth it...

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Morning Air attack on Boela , at 80,110

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
202 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 28

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 201st JAAF AF Bn ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 201st JAAF AF Bn ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 201st JAAF AF Bn ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...

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Morning Air attack on Babo , at 83,111

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 41

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
801 Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Babo , at 83,111

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Babo , at 83,111

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Babo , at 83,111

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 10

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Boela , at 80,110

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
202 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on 201st JAAF AF Bn , at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 5th Naval Construction Battalion, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 24

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 39,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 4

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 36800 feet

lots of aircraft in the air again, the Corsairs failed to escort some bombers... gonna reset their range to 0, they were coming from Bathurst...

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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 27
PV-1 Ventura x 30

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking Darwin ...
Also attacking 5th Div /1 ...
Also attacking 8th Tank Regiment ...

these USN medium bombers really have a hard time hitting anything...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ambon at 76,109

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 12
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 21
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 4

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAKL Ina Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAKL Yamatsuru Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Kayo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Belgium Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAKL Penang Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
5th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIc Nick (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
248th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (3 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes

I hoped to see the enemy convoy leaving Ambon again today and deliberately kept my USN bombers on attack... the convoy didn�t leave but we launched 50% of our bombers in one attack and the numbers were big enough to deal with the enemy fighters while also scoring some more hits on the enemy freighters... nevertheless I expect most of the troops/supply reached Ambon... we pay with another two heavy bombers which is more than ok in terms of losses for us...

note that four Nells were shot down, these were on nav search and we usually take down something like up to halve a dozen each weak over our bases around Darwin that got Cap...

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Sub attack near Makassar at 64,107

Japanese Ships
PB Daibu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXVII

SS KXVII launches 4 torpedoes at PB Daibu Maru
KXVII diving deep ....
Sub escapes detection

and a single escort is sunk...

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Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 36207 troops, 666 guns, 860 vehicles, Assault Value = 1661

Defending force 14810 troops, 156 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 259

Allied adjusted assault: 264

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 37 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1805 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 184 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 27 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 11 (9 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 3

Allied ground losses:
210 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled

Assaulting units:
131st Combat Engineer Regiment
18th British Division
37th Infantry Division
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
151st Combat Engineer Regiment
27th Infantry Division
14th NZ Brigade
7th Infantry Division
I US Corps
32nd Aviation Base Force
258th USAAF Base Force
109th USN Base Force
147th USA Base Force
35th USN Naval Construction Battalion
36th USN Naval Construction Battalion
26th USN Naval Construction Battalion
27th USN Naval Construction Battalion
24th USN Naval Construction Battalion
42nd USN Naval Construction Battalion

Defending units:
82nd Nav Gd /1
4th Division
87th Naval Guard Unit
144th Infantry Regiment
Sasebo 5th SNLF
Maizuru 1st SNLF /1
5th Air Div /1
14th Naval Construction Battalion
49th Fld AA Bn /1
50th Fld AA Bn /1
5th Naval Construction Battalion
6th Naval Construction Battalion
55th JNAF AF Unit
7th Naval Construction Battalion
201st JAAF AF Bn
44th JNAF AF Unit
43rd JNAF AF Unit
56th Fld AA Bn /1

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 24, 43
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ASW attack near Balabac at 69,83

Japanese Ships
TK San Pedro Maru
DD Tawakaze

Allied Ships
SS Grayling

SS Grayling is sighted by escort
Grayling diving deep ....
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

what is amazing to me is the fact how many tanker convoys there are... even if we don�t get a shot, we usually find one most of the time...

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Sub attack near Taihoku at 87,62

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 38
SC Ch 24
TK Ceram Maru
DD Tatsukaze
PB Hitora Maru

Allied Ships
SS Gato

SS Gato launches 6 torpedoes at SC Ch 38
DD Tatsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Hitora Maru fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tatsukaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tatsukaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tatsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tatsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tatsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

second tanker convoy today...

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ASW attack near Kobe at 107,61

Japanese Ships
TK Tatekawa Maru
PB Mikitade Maru

Allied Ships
SS Lapon

SS Lapon is sighted by escort
Lapon diving deep ....
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

and even a third one... if we would have succesfully attacked perhaps one that would have been great...

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Sub attack near Astoria at 210,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-9, hits 2

Allied Ships
DD Halford

SS I-9 launches 6 torpedoes
I-9 diving deep ....
DD Halford attacking submerged sub ....
DD Halford fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Halford attacking submerged sub ....
DD Halford attacking submerged sub ....
DD Halford attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-9 eludes DD Halford by diving deep
Escort abandons search for sub

a single DD was sent to San Francisco and is attacked by one of the IJN subs patrolling the West Coast... torps missed, the destroyer scored two near misses...

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Sub attack near Kobe at 107,61

Japanese Ships
PB Mikitade Maru
TK Tatekawa Maru

Allied Ships
SS Lapon

SS Lapon launches 6 torpedoes at PB Mikitade Maru
Lapon diving deep ....
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

fourth time a sub meeting a tanker convoy... fourth time no success...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 37,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 35

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 36750 feet

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Selaroe at 77,119

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
LCT-141
LCT-152, Shell hits 3, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x A6M5 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

ok, it�s enough now... either we bomb all the bases in the area 24/7 or we have to put up LRCAP... guess we have to move a light cruiser with some destroyers in to act as bait as we can�t knock out all the bases with the Japanese having so many engineers that repair the damage...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 39,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 36750 feet

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Morning Air attack on 7th Chinese Corps, at 58,61 (Nakhon Ratchasima)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 25
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 37

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 3
P-38H Lightning x 9
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIb Sally: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
234 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ki-21-IIb Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
23 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.27 Sqn RAF with Beaufighter VIc (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
No.177 Sqn RAF with Beaufighter VIc (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
343rd FG/11th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 42000
Raid is overhead
51st FG/26th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 42000
Raid is overhead
8th FG/35th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 42000
Raid is overhead
23rd FG/74th FS with P-38H Lightning (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 40000
Raid is overhead
23rd FG/76th FS with P-38H Lightning (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 40000
Raid is overhead
X Sqn with P-38H Lightning (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 40000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 14th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 16th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 59th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 57th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 7th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 16th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 7th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 14th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 59th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 7th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 16th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 7th Chinese Corps ...

200 of our long range fighters have been set to LRCAP 50% today, range 8 hexes... this time the Cap trap worked, the enemy comes in without any escorts and the small number of fighters that actually engaged the enemy scored a nice number of kills... these attacks on my troops start to hurt, thank to the weather bug outside of bases... hopefully this engagement keeps the enemy from flying ground attacks but I guess it will only result in escorts for the bombers...

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Morning Air attack on 14th Chinese Corps, at 58,61 (Nakhon Ratchasima)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 18

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 1
P-38H Lightning x 4
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.177 Sqn RAF with Beaufighter VIc (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
343rd FG/11th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 42000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
51st FG/26th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 42000
Raid is overhead
8th FG/35th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 42000
Raid is overhead
23rd FG/74th FS with P-38H Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 40000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-38H Lightning (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 40000
Raid is overhead
X Sqn with P-38H Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 40000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 70 minutes

some more medium bombers shot down...

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Morning Air attack on 75th Chinese Corps, at 58,61 (Nakhon Ratchasima)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 31

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 1
P-38H Lightning x 4
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 7 destroyed, 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.177 Sqn RAF with Beaufighter VIc (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
343rd FG/11th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 42000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
51st FG/26th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 42000
Raid is overhead
8th FG/35th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 42000
Raid is overhead
23rd FG/74th FS with P-38H Lightning (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 40000
Raid is overhead
23rd FG/76th FS with P-38H Lightning (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 40000
Raid is overhead
X Sqn with P-38H Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 40000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes

the Lillies are hit hard too... nice...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 42,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 18
B-25C Mitchell x 14
F4U-1 Corsair x 8

Allied aircraft losses
Mitchell II: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Mitchell II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x Mitchell II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 28
P-40K Warhawk x 25

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 5

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Ambon , at 76,109

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 21

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 77

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 20 damaged
J2M2 Jack: 3 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 5 damaged

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 47

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (7 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes

what was left of the enemy convoy moved out of Ambon again and so did most of the Japanese fighters... we dared to attack the base directly with heavy bombers today, meeting 20 Jacks, most of them being damaged or driven off... weather saves the Japanese again (forecast was excellent weather once more) but also our bombers suffer quite some losses today... too many to be repeated a couple of times...

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Morning Air attack on Ambon , at 76,109

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 20

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 6 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (14 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 9
F4U-1 Corsair x 8

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 55th JNAF AF Unit , at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 5

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Ambon , at 76,109

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 16

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 114 minutes

especially these follow on piece meal strikes suffer usually...

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Morning Air attack on Ambon , at 76,109

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 6

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 damaged

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Ambon , at 76,109

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 3

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 4 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Ambon , at 76,109

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 4

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

guess the first big wave only suffered one bomber lost, while the follow on piece meal waves suffered four... having waves going in to attack is fine with me, but shouldn�t these waves be similar in size? Or are we talking about "lost" bombers again? Like the "lost" fighters in sweeps? Were the Allied in real life able to fly in formation?

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 1

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 5

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Ambon , at 76,109

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 damaged

Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

or was it normal to see three bombers coming in alone in the end... the way it works is just too random... using waves or the so called "strike packs" is surely ok, but if you look at how these "waves" are made up makes you just wonder all the time... this has nothing to do with "waves" and I seriously doubt that so many bombers got "lost" on the way to a target all the time... strikes not locating a target at all is one thing, but having dozens of bombers/fighters getting lost on the way to target (while of course still locating the target) is just too much...

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Morning Air attack on 201st JAAF AF Bn , at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 24
P-40K Warhawk x 5

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 39,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 19

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 36750 feet

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 43,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 17

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *

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Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 36054 troops, 666 guns, 860 vehicles, Assault Value = 1656

Defending force 13091 troops, 142 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 225

Allied adjusted assault: 316

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 63 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3522 casualties reported
Squads: 170 destroyed, 40 disabled
Non Combat: 361 destroyed, 63 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 43 (42 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 4

Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Assaulting units:
18th British Division
14th NZ Brigade
37th Infantry Division
131st Combat Engineer Regiment
27th Infantry Division
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
151st Combat Engineer Regiment
7th Infantry Division
32nd Aviation Base Force
35th USN Naval Construction Battalion
258th USAAF Base Force
109th USN Base Force
36th USN Naval Construction Battalion
I US Corps
147th USA Base Force
24th USN Naval Construction Battalion
27th USN Naval Construction Battalion
26th USN Naval Construction Battalion
42nd USN Naval Construction Battalion

Defending units:
87th Naval Guard Unit
144th Infantry Regiment
4th Division
Sasebo 5th SNLF
Maizuru 1st SNLF /1
44th JNAF AF Unit
5th Air Div /1
43rd JNAF AF Unit
5th Naval Construction Battalion
55th JNAF AF Unit
14th Naval Construction Battalion
201st JAAF AF Bn
49th Fld AA Bn /1
7th Naval Construction Battalion
50th Fld AA Bn /1

the enemy is collapsing...

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/24/2010 1:02:40 PM

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It's indeed a surprising tactic by Rainer!
- He's sacrificing large number of troops to delay your capture of Northern Oz and New Britain.
Letting you so close to the Marianas via New Guinea is a big gamble. Guess he is trying to channel your assaults in this direction.

I've never seen so many Jap ships and tankers torpedoed this early in the war before.
Will be interesting to see if I can avoid the same fate in my games

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/24/2010 1:02:47 PM

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CV New York arrived at Balboa today... renamed those carriers you get as "replacements" of real life losses after US cities... next one is CV Washington in a couple of days... our CV strenght is growing steadily now and if we can keep our CV fleet intact over the next three months then we will have something like 900-1000 carrier based ac at the front... with 500-600 Hellcats due to our CVEs carrying mostly fighters as I�m also using the CVEs that come with the VR squadrons as front line carriers with their bomber squadrons being put ashore, so these CVEs carry 28 Hellcats each... I don�t like it but I just have to use CVE task forces to support my fleet carriers and even then, we don�t have much of a chance against a 500+ aircraft strike which we�ve seen before... don�t even want to think that KB has grown even bigger since then...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 25, 43
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ASW attack near Balabac at 71,82

Japanese Ships
E Karukaya
E Asagao
E Takashima
E Hoko

Allied Ships
SS Albacore

SS Albacore is located by E Karukaya
E Takashima fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko attacking submerged sub ....
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Puerto Princesa at 73,81

Japanese Ships
E Asagao
E Takashima
E Hoko

Allied Ships
SS Grampus

SS Grampus launches 6 torpedoes at E Asagao
Grampus diving deep ....
E Takashima fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko attacking submerged sub ....
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Torishima at 109,68

Japanese Ships
E Sokuten
TK Ayayuki Maru
TK Jinei Maru
E Omae
E Naryu

Allied Ships
SS Pollack, hits 6, heavy damage

SS Pollack is sighted by escort
E Omae fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Naryu fails to find sub and abandons search
E Omae attacking submerged sub ....
Debris floats to surface in area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub

senseless to engage these ASW forces... Pollack is sunk... SS Gato was hit by a Lily, suffering 69sys/29flt/10eng...

one sunk, one heavily damaged...

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ASW attack near Taytay at 74,80

Japanese Ships
E Takashima
E Hoko

Allied Ships
SS Grampus

SS Grampus is located by E Takashima
Grampus diving deep ....
E Takashima fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Torishima at 107,68

Japanese Ships
TK Akatsuki Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
SC CHa-15

Allied Ships
SS Trigger

SS Trigger launches 6 torpedoes at TK Akatsuki Maru
Trigger diving deep ....
SC CHa-15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

at least we get a hit on a tanker full of fuel... and burning fuel is pretty much a death sentence...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Selaroe at 78,118

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
LCT-471, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x A6M5 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

ahhh...

doubt that these Zeke pilots got that a high lownav skill, so it�s strafe skill that makes them LCT killers...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 15
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 75

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 94

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21-IIb Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
23 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
23 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

the IJAAF outside of my fighter range is getting annoying... this will change as soon as the Chinese will have been able to build up a second airfield in the area... then I�m going to start P-38 and P-47 sweeps out of Vietnam against his bases in and around Saigon, followed by heavy bomber strikes from Pegu...

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 60
P-40K Warhawk x 25

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 4

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 4

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 14th Naval Construction Battalion, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 5

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 14th Naval Construction Battalion, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 5

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 41,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 17

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *

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Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 36035 troops, 666 guns, 860 vehicles, Assault Value = 1654

Defending force 9649 troops, 107 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 169

Allied adjusted assault: 238

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 47 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1018 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 132 destroyed, 49 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 16 (15 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Allied ground losses:
167 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Assaulting units:
27th Infantry Division
14th NZ Brigade
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
18th British Division
151st Combat Engineer Regiment
131st Combat Engineer Regiment
37th Infantry Division
7th Infantry Division
27th USN Naval Construction Battalion
32nd Aviation Base Force
258th USAAF Base Force
147th USA Base Force
I US Corps
109th USN Base Force
24th USN Naval Construction Battalion
36th USN Naval Construction Battalion
35th USN Naval Construction Battalion
26th USN Naval Construction Battalion
42nd USN Naval Construction Battalion

Defending units:
4th Division
Maizuru 1st SNLF /1
14th Naval Construction Battalion
55th JNAF AF Unit
43rd JNAF AF Unit
49th Fld AA Bn /1
44th JNAF AF Unit
5th Naval Construction Battalion
50th Fld AA Bn /1

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/24/2010 1:13:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: PzB

It's indeed a surprising tactic by Rainer!
- He's sacrificing large number of troops to delay your capture of Northern Oz and New Britain.
Letting you so close to the Marianas via New Guinea is a big gamble. Guess he is trying to channel your assaults in this direction.

I've never seen so many Jap ships and tankers torpedoed this early in the war before.
Will be interesting to see if I can avoid the same fate in my games

don�t know if he wants to channel my attack but it turned out to be the logical route at some point. I don�t even think about the Marianas at the moment, like I�ve mentioned earlier, all these "small" Pacific Islands have lost some of the importance they had in real life or even more so in WITP. Why fighting a bloody battle for the Marianas if you can build level 9 airfields in the Philipines? Of course, at some point you just have to take the Pacific bases but you can do that when the enemy has to pull out his troops to defend more important areas. Why defending South of Kwajalein when the enemy is knocking on the door of Borneo?

Of course my ships have to take a looong route to Australia but this isn�t a problem at all, I�ve got enough ships, even though probably 85% of them are at Sea all the time. Fuel has long been a problem and to some extent still is, I can hardly accumulate more than 150-200,000 at the front (spread out over halve a dozen bases) but this is getting better now too. I have never dropped fuel for Australia�s industry as I couldn�t even feed the USN while the merchant fleet more or less never refuelled in Australia anyway. Would the enemy have sunk two dozen tankers more, my fleet would be sitting dry most of the time. And I have not lost a lot of tankers at all, mostly these that started in the SRA but that is normal I guess. As it stands now, we are clearly aiming on "Northern" New Guinea (with the bases around Ambon), Timor and then further on towards Borneo and the Philipines. So jumping East again into the Pacific isn�t really a need at the moment and as long as we can create a "channel" for our convoys that got bases on New Guinea to the East and Timor to the West, we are also not really prone to attacks on our flanks.

So far we haven�t lost anything I can remember to raids onto my convoys or shipping lanes. Which is quite understandable though when thinking how far off the usual paths my convoys are routed. Having not used search archs for many months, it would be a more than hard task to move carriers through my lines to get into the convoy routes and if so then the carriers got a looong way back and that would be a risky task, not worth the danger IMO. And so far, it seems my opponent is thinking the same.

One of my biggest problems seems to be the fact that my opponent is far too often thinking the same as I do. This isn�t making it easier for me.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/24/2010 2:33:46 PM

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any clue when exactly the VT fuses are available in game? Guess this is the time when flak will become more dangerous, or dangerous at all.

IIRC that was taken out completely.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/24/2010 2:56:23 PM

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any clue when exactly the VT fuses are available in game? Guess this is the time when flak will become more dangerous, or dangerous at all.

IIRC that was taken out completely.

I hope the

means you are joking.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/24/2010 4:14:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

any clue when exactly the VT fuses are available in game? Guess this is the time when flak will become more dangerous, or dangerous at all.

IIRC that was taken out completely.

I hope the means you are joking.

Coulda swore it got taken out in AE but scouring the forum finds no evidence of such so I might be wrong.

You got VT fuzes in WitP in 10/43.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/25/2010 8:18:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: EUBanana

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

any clue when exactly the VT fuses are available in game? Guess this is the time when flak will become more dangerous, or dangerous at all.

IIRC that was taken out completely.

I hope the means you are joking.

Coulda swore it got taken out in AE but scouring the forum finds no evidence of such so I might be wrong.

You got VT fuzes in WitP in 10/43.

can only hope so because in real life flak got a couple of times deadlier with VT fuzes and if this was taken out of the game (for a reason I don�t know and can�t imagine) then I wonder how they want to mirror this. As it is now, flak is at best an annoyance, even if you got a couple of TFs in a hex with far over 50000 AA value alltogether. And I doubt that this will go up much higher, no matter what date in the game. Shows not much effect though.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/25/2010 9:47:15 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 26, 43
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ASW attack near Brunei at 64,84

Japanese Ships
DD Isonami
DD Murakumo

Allied Ships
SS Spearfish, hits 6

SS Spearfish is located by DD Isonami
DD Murakumo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Isonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Isonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Isonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Isonami attacking submerged sub ....
DD Isonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

the only thing that saves our subs from being sunk seems to be the fact that I usually strictly keep them in deep water... this one is the next one being knocked out though, 25/33...

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Sub attack near Talaud-eilanden at 81,96

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 27, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
E Niizaki
SC Ch 36
SC Ch 33
xAK Tsurushima Maru
xAK Asama Maru #2
xAK Yamayuri Maru
xAK Turuga Maru
DD Hatsuyuki
E Hatsutaka

Allied Ships
SS Tautog, hits 2

SS Tautog launches 6 torpedoes at SC Ch 27
Tautog diving deep ....
DD Hatsuyuki attacking submerged sub ....
E Hatsutaka fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

heavily escorted convoy, we get a shot at a cheap escort... the subchaser is sunk, the sub takes 18/32 and is retiring...
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Sub attack near Obi at 76,106

Japanese Ships
xAKL Ina Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-42

xAKL Ina Maru is sighted by SS S-42
SS S-42 launches 4 torpedoes at xAKL Ina Maru

unescorted small freighter is sunk... this is one of the TFs that is going back and forth to supply the enemy�s frontline bases and these TFs so far have never been attacked by my bombers, no matter that their leaders are the most agressive ones I could find... if you use single ship TFs then they seem to be safe 99% of the time... that way the enemy won�t have much of supply problem I guess... as these single ships are spotted every time I think it would be great if something like 4 or 6 bombers would launch to attack them because I seriously doubt that the Allied (or the Japanese) of real life would just have watched 1000 ton freighters going to frontline bases, being unloaded and steaming away again without attacking them, especially if the enemy never has any fighters in the air... the attack routine seems to be the same as in WITP...

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Sub attack near Toyohara at 125,47

Japanese Ships
xAK Akasi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
SC CHa-10

Allied Ships
SS Seadragon

SS Seadragon launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Akasi Maru
SC CHa-10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-10 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

another freighter is hit today... two freighters probably sunk and a subchaser sunk for sure for two knocked out subs, I guess I shouldn�t complain as we�ve seen worse results...

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ASW attack near Donggala at 68,97

Japanese Ships
DD Yamanagiri
AO Shiretoko

Allied Ships
SS Bowfin

SS Bowfin launches 6 torpedoes at DD Yamanagiri
Bowfin diving deep ....
DD Yamanagiri attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yamanagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamanagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamanagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamanagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

the usual duds... I�m getting more and more pissed... like I�ve said before, either the message you get isn�t correct when it says "torpedoes fail to detonate" or these are the most strangest die rolls ever as we have seen probably over 90% of the salvoes that actually HIT DD or E being reported as duds... and that sounds strange to me considering a 50% dud rate... grr... something like every third or fourth attack on a DD or E results in a hit, so if you would count them up in this AAR from 1/43 on then you can figure out how many duds we had... and this with a dud rate of 50%...

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Sub attack near Talaud-eilanden at 81,96

Japanese Ships
AO Hayamoto
PC Nire
AO Teibo
AO Kyuko
AO Shiriya
AO Sata
AO Ondo
DD Oboro
DD Akatsuki

Allied Ships
SS Permit, hits 2

SS Permit launches 4 torpedoes at AO Hayamoto
Permit diving deep ....
DD Oboro fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akatsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Oboro fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Akatsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akatsuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akatsuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akatsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

more duds, next sub knocked out... 9/24... makes it three subs knocked out for 1 xAKL, 1 probable xAK and 1 SC... every knocked out sub usually is out of the war for 6-8 weeks, considering the long way to and from the front and the usually short repair times... so even if the Japanese don�t sink the subs, it�s well worth to damage them...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 40,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 17

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 44,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 24
B-25C Mitchell x 17
F4U-1 Corsair x 8

Allied aircraft losses
Mitchell II: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Mitchell II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x Mitchell II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

losing one of my precious medium level bombers... they are as precious as my Beaufort VIII which I only use for naval attacks... got over a hundred trained pilots for them in the pool with more to come and also around a hundred bombers in the pool... the only problem for us, the enemy never moves into range to use them...

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 44
P-40K Warhawk x 21

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...

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Morning Air attack on Boela , at 80,110

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 15
B-24D Liberator x 44

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 72

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
202 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Boela , at 80,110

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
202 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Ambon , at 76,109

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 79

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

poor result, tried to attack earlier again to catch some more damaged Jacks but something prevented my bombers from taking off...

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Morning Air attack on Ambon , at 76,109

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 21
F4U-1 Corsair x 8

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Ambon , at 76,109

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 7

No Allied losses

Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Ambon , at 76,109

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 8

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 14th Naval Construction Battalion, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 1

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 18
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 55

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x Ki-21-IIb Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

these IJAAF medium bombers usually achieve results I can only dream of with my heavy bombers that have flown hundreds of mission while carrying more than twice the payload... the IJAAF must be carrying the same laser guided bombs the Kates/Jills usually use...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 20

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 43

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

same here...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 18

No Japanese losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 39,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 17

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 36750 feet

it turns out again that doing transport missions and nav search seems to be far more dangerous than doing long range bomber strikes... but with the experience of this PBEM it�s not surprising me anymore... it makes me wonder, but it doesn�t surprise me...

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Ground combat at Udon Thani (61,59)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11111 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 430

Defending force 10 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 205

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 205 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Udon Thani !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
70th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
2nd Raiding Regiment

after our para unit has been kicked out by the Japanese paras, we have moved a Chinese Corps to secure the base again which wasn�t much of a problem...

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 9/25/2010 9:58:42 AM

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Thought the map could be interesting. Not really dramatic changes since the last map, Rabaul was seized and the Solomons were cleared. On New Guinea, the next tronghold on the "North Coast" is Hollandia, some 29000 troops reported, expect to perhaps meet another division but not much more, 500 av max. Darwin still is in Japanese hands but the this should change as soon as the three Marine Divs arrive. The bases West of Darwin are all Japanese but are reported empty, so a couple of para drops should be enough to take them back. The white arrows are the main lines of assault for the next months. This is no real secret, I guess Rainer is aware of this anyway.

Of course there�s also the possibility to seize some bases in the Central Pacific, just to make the enemy a bit nervous and to draw some more troops into the Central Pacific (or keep them there). We just recently had intel about a Guards div being shipped to Guam for example, so Rainer is already in the process of fortifying "back water". The possible assault lines in the Pacific are the ones in yellow.

The main problem I�ve got is the fact that you can�t do an invasion without having your troops prepped to 100% and this takes over three months, so each step forward usually is delayed by the preparation time, otherwise your troops will suffer just too many disablements during the landing, no matter if the enemy is defending the place or not.

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SS Gato sunk after two days, started with 69/29/10... was hit by a Lilly with a 100kg bomb... now talk about the effect of sys damage!

when I had the message in the op report about Gato being hit by air ASW I took a look at the ship and thought everything would be fine... dramatically increasing flt damage over two days reported, with the ship finally going down...

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Submarine attack near Saidor at 99,123

Japanese Ships
SS RO-36, hits 21, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Indiana
CA Houston
CLAA San Juan
CLAA Juneau
CLAA Atlanta
DD Abbot
DD Jenkins

SS RO-36 is sighted by escort
DD Jenkins attacking submerged sub ....
SS RO-36 forced to surface!
DD Jenkins firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

the enemy loses one of his second class subs as my fleet moves through the same hex... getting the info about BB Indiana being in the hex sure has alerted my opponent... this group is going North together with all my available carriers in the area, some ASW groups and a big convoy... resupply/reinforcements, no invasion but I guess the KB will set sail...

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Sub attack near Fukue-jima at 100,59

Japanese Ships
E Kiji
DD Okikaze
E Kamo

Allied Ships
SS Halibut

SS Halibut launches 6 torpedoes at E Kiji
Halibut diving deep ....
DD Okikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Okikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Okikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Okikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Okikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Okikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

guess? yes, duds...
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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 40,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 18

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 36750 feet

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Morning Air attack on 9th Chinese Corps, at 59,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 40,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 30

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
30 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 36750 feet

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 41,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 15

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36750
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes

caught some Oscars... Oscars can be used in sweeps as they work quite well in this role, also for escorts if you need some "throwaways" but they are definetely not suited for Cap...

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Morning Air attack on 9th Chinese Corps, at 59,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 39,740 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 22

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 36740 feet *

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Selaroe at 77,120

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
LCT-67

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A6M5 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 3 plane(s) with no ordnance

CAP engaged:
VMF-216 with F4U-1 Corsair (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36800
Raid is overhead
VMF-441 with F4U-1 Corsair (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36800
Raid is overhead

this time we had some LRCAP over the landing crafts... this wasn�t as surprising as the BS that turned out during the replay... the engagement started with: Zero diving on Corsair! What??? Ok, let�s look at the situation... we have Zekes coming in with bombs to attack barges at 100ft and we have Corsairs 36700 ft higher... lol, that all this isn�t realistic aside, how on Earth can the game come up with "Zero diving on Corsair"? This went on for quite some time and the Corsairs were lucky to even down one of the Zekes in the end...

this also explains the oh so great and new "advice" by one of my favourite forum members who came up with the idea of "if your enemy goes higher, then you should go lower"... now 100ft is as low as you can go in the game and this then results in the 100ft fighters diving on the 36800ft fighters... lol, as much a flaw as the strato bombing in WITP that got into a "negative" alt and you achieved insane hitrates from somewhere around 40000ft... this got fixed in WITP IIRC but this thing here is more than funny... and it also once again makes me only shaking my head about a IMO stupid advice of going lower when the enemy is going higher... beating one "exploit" with another? Could be acceptable, problem only is that my favourite forum member probably thinks it wouldn�t be an exploit but one of his great "fantasy tactics". lol...

I would love to hear the "reality explanation" when the Corsairs dove down like a comet, passing the 100ft and as soon as they were at 99ft, the Zekes were then diving on them... lol... no, lol, is the wrong term here... the single Zeke that was downed was shot down after the dive... during the dive, the Zekes were unbeatable, we didn�t get a shot at them...

the Zekes jettisoned their bombs, that�s a real nice new feature that came with AE...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 25
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 65

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 58

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIb Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
11 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

even in severe storms and with reduced loads these IJAAF bombers work just fine... better than my 4Es when talking about hit rates... can�t get better 4E crews as I�ve got now as they�ve all flown hundreds of combat missions already so they won�t get any better...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 18

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

this one failed completely though...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 39,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 11
Mitchell II x 15
B-17F Fortress x 14
B-24D Liberator x 34
B-25C Mitchell x 29

Allied aircraft losses
Mitchell II: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 78

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Mitchell II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x Hudson I bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Mitchell II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

the fact that we�re also bombing Hollandia surely makes our opponent think our fleet is coming in for an invasion...

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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 8

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Mitchell II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 15
Liberator GR.III x 12
B-17E Fortress x 27
B-24D1 Liberator x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 113

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x Liberator GR.III bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

our US B-24 hardly ever achieve what our bombers in Burma are able to do... extremely good result for a thunderstorm attack...

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 48
P-40K Warhawk x 20

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 11

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36750
Raid is overhead

then some Oscars show up... no threat for B-17...

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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 9
F4U-1 Corsair x 7

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged

Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 14th Naval Construction Battalion, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 1

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36750
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 1

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 9

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

the usual 3x3 lost fragments of three fighter squadrons on sweep... sorry guys, but this is just a joke all the time... takes away lot of a realistic feeling IMO... things like this just didn�t happen 98% of the time in real life with 100% looking alike every time it happens...

aircraft got lost. fighters, bombers, all types... but 3 of each squadron in more or less every mission flown by our fighters? no, this did not happen. this is just plain stupid and I doubt that this was the original intention... all this "strike coordination" and "strike package" routines are nothing but the old WITP routines with a "screw up by default" built in it seems... and it�s just too consistent... yeah, 3 fighters lost in more or less every sweep we fly... and the sweeps going in more or less alone all the time... mhm...

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Morning Air attack on 9th Chinese Corps, at 59,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 39,740 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 36740 feet *

nothing different for the enemy at all... nice routine...

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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

ahhh... while the "lost" three fighters arrived with 2x3 lost fighters of the other squadrons, here comes the main part of the second squadron...

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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

and the main part (less 3 lost fighters) of the third squadron... sorry, but this has had to come up during beta testing too... who really thinks that this is working ok, or even well? what a fart... please remember that these P-38 squadrons are the creme de la creme of Allied land based fighters on the map... these squadrons got more aces than non aces... with hundreds of missions flown, pilots with 20 kills... they wouldn�t get "lost" in every mission you know... they WOULDN�T...

as we�ve lost a sub to air asw today, I thought it would be worth taking a look at our sub losses... it�s nearly 8/43 and the losses are.... light... out of 14 Allied subs lost in total, 2 were sunk in port on 12/7/41 and 2 were sunk by mines during the time when subs still reacted into ports with spotted minefields.

Means it leaves us with 10 subs sunk by other causes. 1 was sunk by an enemy sub, 1 by air ASW and 8 by enemy escorts using depth charges. Looking at this screen and at the date, this must be quite depressing for every Japanese player. While I have several subs knocked out every week, they usually make it home easily, being patched up in no time. It�s only the travel time that mostly hurts. But having subs sunk? A really rare event.

I really respect the enemy E escorts and probably going to fear the E types in 44 with their 11 and even higher ASW value but until then, the IJN can be considered helpless in terms of sinking our subs. How many US subs were lost in real life? Around 50 due to different causes? As it stands now, if the IJN can�t increase their ASW efforts then it gets rather hard to see 50 Allied subs being sunk. But who knows, other players report real heavy sub losses from 44 on.

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Well, its better than it was in AE I recall. A lot of damaging hits at least which would throw off accuracy.

I remember a Brit CVTF fighting mini KB and the Brits with a really high flak rating (from 3 or 4 CVs in one TF, and Brit CVs pack a lot of guns), the flak saved their bacon.

yeah, having flak effect the accuracy of bombers in AE is one of the nice steps forward compared to WITP. If it works.

Well, I noticed that Japanese airfield attacks vs heavily flaked bases usually do not hit much. I don't kill many planes but damage a lot and they don't seem to hit diddily. So in some ways it is better. Just would like to see my naval flak kill some planes. (Something they acutually did in numbers in the real deal)

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 10/5/2010 10:37:07 AM

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Have fallen back in the AAR more than a month already and being on a business trip to the UK last week didn�t make it better. Anyway, trying to catch up asap.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 28, 43
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ASW attack near Iba at 72,74

Japanese Ships
AK Amagisan Maru
AK Sakito Maru
xAP Suminoe Maru
xAP Ohtaka Maru
xAP Teikyo Maru
xAP Atsuta Maru
DD Numakaze
DD Shiokaze
DD Minekaze

Allied Ships
SS Jack

SS Jack is sighted by escort
Jack diving deep ....
DD Numakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Shiokaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Minekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Minekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Minekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Minekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Minekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Minekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Aitape at 96,118

Japanese Ships
SS I-178, hits 9

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales
CA Salt Lake City
CA Chicago
CL Montpelier
DD Cummings
DD Fanning
DD Lang
DD Shaw
DD Case
DD Lamson
DD Drayton

SS I-178 is sighted by escort
DD Shaw attacking submerged sub ....
DD Case fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Lamson attacking submerged sub ....
DD Drayton fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Shaw fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Lamson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lamson attacking submerged sub ....
DD Lamson fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

This is my surface combat TF that is leading my CV TFs, not all ships spotted but having spotted POW surely alerts Rainer once again. Have my carriers and an invasion TF going to Aitape... KB probably has set sail already earlier I guess...

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Sub attack near Balabac at 69,83

Japanese Ships
E Hoko
E Takashima

Allied Ships
SS Grayling, hits 1

SS Grayling launches 4 torpedoes at E Hoko
Grayling diving deep ....
E Takashima fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko attacking submerged sub ....
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Jesselton at 67,85

Japanese Ships
DD Ikazuchi
DD Murakumo
DD Isonami

Allied Ships
SS Trout

SS Trout launches 6 torpedoes at DD Ikazuchi
Trout diving deep ....
DD Murakumo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Isonami fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Murakumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Murakumo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Murakumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Murakumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Murakumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

just forget about attacking these targets... using 250 torps for one kill and running the risk of being damaged/sunk each time isn�t worth it... just ain�t worth it...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 40,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 18

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 36750 feet

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 39,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 16

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *

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Morning Air attack on 9th Group Army, at 58,61 (Nakhon Ratchasima)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 20
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 25
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 25
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 29
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 37

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIb Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
466 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 61 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-21-IIb Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 7th Group Army ...
Also attacking NCAC ...
Also attacking 14th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 9th Group Army ...
Also attacking 59th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 80th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 9th Group Army ...
Also attacking 7th Group Army ...
Also attacking NCAC ...
Also attacking 9th Group Army ...
Also attacking 7th Group Army ...
Also attacking NCAC ...
Also attacking 9th Group Army ...
Also attacking 7th Group Army ...
Also attacking NCAC ...
Also attacking 14th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 59th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 9th Group Army ...
Also attacking 7th Group Army ...
Also attacking NCAC ...
Also attacking 9th Group Army ...
Also attacking 7th Group Army ...
Also attacking NCAC ...

wow! Instead of having useless attack bombers that don�t work at the moment and will be hardcoded to 100ft suicide attacks after the patch I would just love to have Japanese medium bombers in my arsenal...

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Morning Air attack on 14th Chinese Corps, at 58,61 (Nakhon Ratchasima)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 19
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 39,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 38
PV-1 Ventura x 42

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 36

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

especially when I constantly see the IJAAF medium bombers achieving far more with their pityful payload than my heavy bombers dropping more than twice the bombload all the time...

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 18
PV-1 Ventura x 9

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 9

No Allied losses

Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 42

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 28

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 8

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 24

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 53

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

the enemy bombers probably got a hit rate of 40%+ for each bomb on average while we are somewhere around 10% at best... and this with 70+ skilled crews that flew hundreds of missions

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Sub attack near Jesselton at 67,85

Japanese Ships
DD Ikazuchi, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Murakumo

Allied Ships
SS Trout

SS Trout launches 4 torpedoes at DD Ikazuchi
Trout diving deep ....
DD Murakumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Murakumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Murakumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Murakumo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Murakumo is out of ASW ammo
DD Murakumo is out of ASW ammo
DD Murakumo is out of ASW ammo
DD Murakumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

one of the rare moments that our torps actually explode when they hit an enemy DD... again, I seriously doubt that the messages about duds/misses are correct as it just doesn�t work when we have a 60%+ hit rate on DDs but the torps fail at least 9 out of 10 times...

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Pre-Invasion action off Aitape

16 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CL Trenton
CL Detroit
CL Raleigh
CL Richmond
CLAA Prince Robert
SC PC-1083
SC PC-1077
SC PC-776
SC PC-598
SC PC-581
SC PC-580
LST-20
LST-17
LST-16

CL Trenton firing at 29th Field AA Machinecannon Company
CL Detroit firing at 59th JNAF AF Unit
CL Raleigh firing at 59th JNAF AF Unit
CL Richmond firing at 29th Field AA Machinecannon Company
CLAA Prince Robert firing at 59th JNAF AF Unit
SC PC-1083 fired at enemy troops
SC PC-1077 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-776 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-598 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-581 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-580 fired at enemy guns
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

I usually don�t like it at all to have my amphib force going in at the end of the turn but we are in a hurry... with our carriers being spotted I expect Rainer to intervene trying to smack us again... therefore we are aiming to retire after the attack transports have unloaded tomorrow... Aitape is only lightly held, shouldn�t be a problem to dislodge the enemy troops...

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Amphibious Assault at Aitape

TF 297 troops unloading over beach at Aitape, 95,118

Allied ground losses:
794 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 126 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 69 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 42 (0 destroyed, 42 disabled)

Vehicles lost 24 (0 destroyed, 24 disabled)

sorry but like herwin is just pointing it out on the forum at the moment, amphib operations really got a strange taste... we are landing with 80 preparation and once again take serious losses due to "unloading"... there is nothing at Aitape that could be seen as "resistance", heck, the enemy doesn�t even get a bombardment due to not having a real combat force here... so in fact this landing is like a maneuver but we suffer 40% of our troops being disabled.... takes us around 5-6 weeks to have these units back at 100 again... would the troops have been 100% prepped, I would have suffered perhaps 10% of these losses...

now if units are trained in amphib ops and are landing somewhere with 80 out of 100 prep against a non existing enemy, why on Earth are these units trashed all the time? This really needs serious work guys. An opposed landing should be bloody, but more or less a piece time unloading suffering such losses when you have 80 out of 100 preparation is just a wet fart. Once again, all you can do is saying "don�t invade without 100% prep"...

1 or 1.5 months training for these units landing here probably would have been easily sufficient in real life. We nearly trained three months for it and suffer horrendously...

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sorry but like herwin is just pointing it out on the forum at the moment, amphib operations really got a strange taste... we are landing with 80 preparation and once again take serious losses due to "unloading"... there is nothing at Aitape that could be seen as "resistance", heck, the enemy doesn�t even get a bombardment due to not having a real combat force here... so in fact this landing is like a maneuver but we suffer 40% of our troops being disabled.... takes us around 5-6 weeks to have these units back at 100 again... would the troops have been 100% prepped, I would have suffered perhaps 10% of these losses...

now if units are trained in amphib ops and are landing somewhere with 80 out of 100 prep against a non existing enemy, why on Earth are these units trashed all the time? This really needs serious work guys. An opposed landing should be bloody, but more or less a piece time unloading suffering such losses when you have 80 out of 100 preparation is just a wet fart. Once again, all you can do is saying "don�t invade without 100% prep"... 1 or 1.5 months training for these units landing here probably would have been easily sufficient in real life. We nearly trained three months for it and suffer horrendously...

The problem in the Design has always been that Amphibious Landings were conceptually modelled after US landings in 1945, when Marine Divisions were trained in Hawaii for months before they hit a specific very tough target. What was forgotten was that there were many other amphibious landings done (mainly by the Army) that were fairly impromptu, and were often against light or absent opposition. In those cases Landing was much much easier.

So unfortunately, ALL amphibious landings are modelled as if they are ALL Iwo Ijma...

And both sides suffer from this. (I've got pbems going for both sides, so I have experienced this.)

The 3-month training rule should give a bonus for being at 100%, not a penalty. But for now (and probably forever) we are stuck with what we have.

Anyway, thread highjacking aside - thanks for always adding good observations to your AAR.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 10/5/2010 12:32:19 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 29, 43
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Amphibious Assault at Aitape

TF 248 troops unloading over beach at Aitape, 95,118

one phase was nearly enough to completely unload all troops... only very small numbers still unloading...

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Invasion Support action off Aitape

7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
SC PC-1083
SC PC-1077
SC PC-776
SC PC-598
SC PC-581
SC PC-580
LST-16
LST-20

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

SC PC-1083 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-1077 fired at enemy troops
SC PC-776 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-598 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-581 fired at enemy troops
SC PC-580 fired at enemy guns
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

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ASW attack near Kobe at 107,61

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-28
SC CHa-19
SC CHa-38

Allied Ships
SS Lapon

SS Lapon is located by SC CHa-28
SC CHa-38 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC CHa-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Orchid Island at 87,68

Japanese Ships
E Kari
E Hayabusa

Allied Ships
SS Drum, hits 2

SS Drum is sighted by escort
E Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hayabusa fails to find sub and abandons search
E Kari attacking submerged sub ....
E Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Invasion Support action off Aitape
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
SC PC-1083
SC PC-1077
SC PC-776
SC PC-598
SC PC-581
SC PC-580
LST-16

SC PC-1083 fired at enemy troops
SC PC-1077 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-776 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-598 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-581 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-580 fired at enemy guns

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Invasion Support action off Aitape
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
SC PC-1077
SC PC-776
SC PC-598
SC PC-581
SC PC-580
LST-16
LST-17

SC PC-1077 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-776 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-598 fired at enemy troops
SC PC-581 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-580 fired at enemy guns

only supply is coming ashore at this point...

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Sub attack near Okinoerabushima at 97,66

Japanese Ships
TK Tatekawa Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PB Mikitade Maru

Allied Ships
SS Growler

SS Growler launches 4 torpedoes at TK Tatekawa Maru
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Mikitade Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

scratch another tanker...

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Morning Air attack on Selaroe , at 78,118

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 38,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 8

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 38500 feet *

CAP engaged:
VMF-216 with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36800
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
VMF-441 with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36800
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes

unfortunetely the Zeke proves to be superior to the Corsair as it can reach up higher... we got some Cap over Selaroe today but this ended in the Corsairs being dived by the Zekes and pretty much shot up...

great...

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 51

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

300 bombs, 18 hit something... with such a hit rate, the IJAAF would never hit anything considering their attacks with 4 or only 2 bombs per bomber... must be the same with the laser guided 250kg bombs that Kates tend to drop... IIRC, the Allied 500lb bombs always had a higher accuracy in WITP�s db, is this still the case in AE? If so, then my 70+ skilled bomber crews must have 20 skill less than the Japanese ones and that�s something I seriously doubt because the average Allied bomber pilot probably has flown a hundred more combat missions than the Japanese ones... but what does this help if you only increase the 70 skill from 2.5 months training to probably 73 on average...

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 9

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 15
Liberator GR.III x 3
B-17E Fortress x 25
B-24D1 Liberator x 18
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
327 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Liberator GR.III bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

this time we catch an enemy div in open terrain...

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator GR.III x 9

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Liberator GR.III bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 23

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 55th JNAF AF Unit , at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 24
P-40K Warhawk x 5

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...

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Morning Air attack on 55th JNAF AF Unit , at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 1

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 4

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 24
P-40K Warhawk x 1

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Udon Thani , at 61,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 20
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 39
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 23
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 38

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-IIb Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
20 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
23 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
18 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

one of those rather rare times when the IJAAF misses too...

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Invasion Support action off Aitape
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
SC PC-776
SC PC-598
SC PC-581
SC PC-580
LST-21
LST-16

SC PC-776 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-598 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-581 fired at enemy guns
SC PC-580 fired at enemy guns

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Ground combat at Aitape (95,118)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8097 troops, 150 guns, 129 vehicles, Assault Value = 275

Defending force 90 troops, 5 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Allied adjusted assault: 154

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 154 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Aitape !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
158th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
14th Canadian Brigade
4th RAAF Base Force

Defending units:
Sasebo 6th SNLF
29th Field AA Machinecannon Company
59th JNAF AF Unit /1

there are 90 enemy troops, we�ve landed two rgt and a bgd and suffered more than 125 combat squads disabled during the landing... this with 80 prep... tell me please that I�m not the only one to find this off... this was like unloading at a holiday beach and we suffer 1/3 of the combat squads disabled during unloading... boy oh boy...

now the more interesting happenings this turn! ALERT! As expected, KB set sail and was in position today! Even before our patrol aircraft were able to spot KB we had over a dozen Judies shot down by Cap over our carriers which meant the enemy carriers were in the area. Then we had a couple of Coronados and Catalinas spotting the enemy carriers. Thanks to not using search archs for probably nearly a year�s game time we don�t have problems spotting the enemy anymore...

With our carriers being in the same spot as yesterday to cover the amphib landings both against air attacks and enemy surface combat groups, the enemy carriers were ordered to a position exactly 12 hexes off our carriers, which is the extended range of the Zeke if carrying a drop tank. It was obvious that Rainer tried to do a long range attack with drop tank equipped Zekes and Judies while staying outside of my carrier based bomber range. It was a good plan, though none of his strikes got airborne. This was amazing first, it was as surprising to read on the forum that the Japanese max range for carrier based anti shipping strikes would be 8 hexes with the Allied one being 7 hexes!

Can this be confirmed by someone?

Guess Rainer was as unaware of this as I am (if that�s really how it is). I told him I would have loved to see his Zekes and Judies coming in with drop tanks at 12 hexes, the Judies carrying 250kg bombs instead of the 500kg fat boys. They would have met something like 400 Hellcats on Cap with 250 land based fighters supporting the Navy (probably with very limited success though). I�m not afraid of KB at all if the Jills aren�t flying as these are the real killers. With a Zeke/Judy only strike, I would have expected something like 150-175 Judies max. If these would have been split into two or perhaps three strikes then we would have mostly obliberated them. Now think about 250 Jills joining them and perhaps an even bigger strike than the 505 aircraft strike we suffered from in our first carrier engagement and you could say good bye to the next bunch of capitol ships. We have deliberately set our carrier groups to 0 reaction as I wanted them to stay close to my precious attack transports and also didn�t want to have a carrier clash if it wasn�t really necessary. The main task of my carriers still is to guard my fleet, it�s not hunting the enemy. As a side note, I had 72 heavy USN bombers ordered on 17 hex nav attack, most of them took off and FAILED to locate the enemy due to range or weather...

I doubt that the enemy would move closer to my major bases because even if all my carriers would perform as bad as last time, he would have to be really lucky not to suffer from my fully stacked air bases in the area. Well, last time the LBA didn�t launch at all, so never say never... the amphib force will raise anchor and will head down to Milne Bay as we�ve unloaded all troops and 50000 tons of supplies and the carriers will slowly following them, staying back two hexes to cover the rear against a (not expected) high speed move South of KB.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 10/5/2010 12:39:33 PM

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sorry but like herwin is just pointing it out on the forum at the moment, amphib operations really got a strange taste... we are landing with 80 preparation and once again take serious losses due to "unloading"... there is nothing at Aitape that could be seen as "resistance", heck, the enemy doesn�t even get a bombardment due to not having a real combat force here... so in fact this landing is like a maneuver but we suffer 40% of our troops being disabled.... takes us around 5-6 weeks to have these units back at 100 again... would the troops have been 100% prepped, I would have suffered perhaps 10% of these losses...

now if units are trained in amphib ops and are landing somewhere with 80 out of 100 prep against a non existing enemy, why on Earth are these units trashed all the time? This really needs serious work guys. An opposed landing should be bloody, but more or less a piece time unloading suffering such losses when you have 80 out of 100 preparation is just a wet fart. Once again, all you can do is saying "don�t invade without 100% prep"... 1 or 1.5 months training for these units landing here probably would have been easily sufficient in real life. We nearly trained three months for it and suffer horrendously...

The problem in the Design has always been that Amphibious Landings were conceptually modelled after US landings in 1945, when Marine Divisions were trained in Hawaii for months before they hit a specific very tough target. What was forgotten was that there were many other amphibious landings done (mainly by the Army) that were fairly impromptu, and were often against light or absent opposition. In those cases Landing was much much easier.

So unfortunately, ALL amphibious landings are modelled as if they are ALL Iwo Ijma...

And both sides suffer from this. (I've got pbems going for both sides, so I have experienced this.)

The 3-month training rule should give a bonus for being at 100%, not a penalty. But for now (and probably forever) we are stuck with what we have.

Anyway, thread highjacking aside - thanks for always adding good observations to your AAR.

can only agree. And yes, (to some extend) it goes for both sides of course, with the exception that these kind of landings like I�ve done here, usually happen for the Japanese during their "happy time" when the amphib bonus is still true and this means it�s mostly the Allied suffering from it. Believe me, you wouldn�t hear me complaining if I would do an opposed landing against some 50000 spotted enemy troops and wouldn�t have my troops sufficiently prepared. Well, you could argue of course if 80 out of 100 wouldn�t be sufficient. But 80 out of 100 when doing a landing like during a maneuver and having 125+ out of something like 350 being disabled is just too much IMO.

thanks for reading the AAR

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great AAR and thanks for putting those comments of yours into the combat summary - gives me a great insight into your thoughts and reactions.....
and I know the feeling if bombers don't take off - pretty much every of my larger air raids have been cancelled due to bad weather even though most of the times it was only "partly clouded" - even had the KB cancel an attack on Auckland last turn.....those things can be really annoying but I guess it's the way it was!

good luck for your game!

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great AAR and thanks for putting those comments of yours into the combat summary - gives me a great insight in your thoughts and reactions.....
and I know the feeling if bombers don't take off - pretty much every of my larger air raids have been cancelled due to bad weather even though most of the times it was only "partly clouded" - even had the KB cancel an attack on Auckland last turn.....those things can be really annoying but I guess it's the way it was!

good luck for your game!

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today�s air losses. As you can see, over a dozen Judies were downed over our carriers, with probably two dozen messages of "Judy sigths ship". I really feared to see a bomb of the nav search Judies hitting one of the flight decks but we got away. Also one of the Catalinas was downed over KB with another one crashing on landing but that�s nothing unusual at all with probably 60% of our losses happening on transit, nav search or transport. Also a precious Coronado was downed over the enemy carriers. Considering the numbers involved, nav search is the number one kamikaze mission for Allied aircraft, followed by transport missions. Don�t know if this is reflecting history. It makes me just sick if I look at only the US PBY losses.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 30, 43
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Sub attack near Aogashima at 112,66

Japanese Ships
TK Ayagiri Maru
SC Ch 32
SC Ch 31
AO Naruto
E Tatsuko
E Yomogi
PB Taian Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
SS Snook, hits 23, and is sunk

SS Snook launches 4 torpedoes at TK Ayagiri Maru
Snook diving deep ....
E Tatsuko attacking submerged sub ....
SS Snook forced to surface!
E Tatsuko firing on surfaced sub ....
E Yomogi firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Taian Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
E Tatsuko firing on surfaced sub ....
E Yomogi firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Taian Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
E Tatsuko firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

salvo of four torps aimed at a tanker but no bang... in return Snook takes two DC and is forced to surface after a very short fight... needless to say, the sub was finished by the escort with gunfire... a pity... two shell hits were reported being scored on PB Taian Maru but I guess that�s only FOW and wouldn�t really harm the escort anyway...

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ASW attack near Koshiki-jima Retto at 100,60

Japanese Ships
DD Okikaze
E Kamo

Allied Ships
SS Halibut

SS Halibut is sighted by escort
Halibut diving deep ....
DD Okikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E Kamo fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo attacking submerged sub ....
E Kamo fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Tsushima at 102,56

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-44
xAKL Bunzan Maru

Allied Ships
SS Haddock

Captain of SS Haddock elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
Haddock diving deep ....
SC CHa-44 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-44 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-44 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-44 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-44 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Jesselton at 67,85

Japanese Ships
TK Fujisan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Kyo Maru #12

Allied Ships
SS Paddle

SS Paddle launches 6 torpedoes at TK Fujisan Maru
PB Kyo Maru #12 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #12 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #12 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #12 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #12 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Paddle then scores on a tanker... if we keep up hitting tankers at that rate it could get tricky for the Japanese to keep their industry running at full speed in 44... don�t know how many they�ve got in total though and Rainer just recently stated that he took a close look at his industry and he was very satisfied about how things were going. The only downside for him is the 60000 HI hit each month for his pilot training with him having more pilots already than he will be ever able to burn with two years kamikaze attacks. Don�t know if this was propaganda or if it really is how it is.

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Submarine attack near Selaroe at 78,119

Japanese Ships
SS I-39

Allied Ships
LCT-354

LCT-354 is sighted by SS I-39
SS I-39 cannot acquire firing solution on enemy LCT

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Sub attack near Aogashima at 113,65

Japanese Ships
xAK Norfolk Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
E Etoforu
E Shimushu
xAK Hukusei Maru
xAK Malta Maru
xAK Montreal Maru
xAK Alaska Maru
xAK Lisbon Maru
xAK Monji Maru
E W-33
E W-27
E Sado

Allied Ships
SS Pompon, hits 1

SS Pompon launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Norfolk Maru
Pompon diving deep ....
E W-33 fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-27 fails to find sub and abandons search
E Sado attacking submerged sub ....
E Sado fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Sado attacking submerged sub ....
E Sado is out of ASW ammo
E Sado is out of ASW ammo
E Sado is out of ASW ammo
E Sado fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Sado fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Sado fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

must be some precious convoy with all these E vessels. No troops aboard though and no xAP spotted so probably not an empty troop transport. Pompon is hit and takes 4 sys 11 flt and is retiring...

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Submarine attack near Selaroe at 77,119

Japanese Ships
SS I-39

Allied Ships
LCT-158, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

LCT-158 is sighted by SS I-39
SS I-39 attacking LCT-158 on the surface

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 39,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 18

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 36750 feet

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 41,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 17

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

after yesterday�s bomber attacks on this unit I hoped for some Cap to be swept away by my Lightnings but there was nothing there...

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

the sweeps are made up as usual...

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Morning Air attack on Selaroe , at 78,118

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 42,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 8

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 38500 feet *

after seeing the Zekes diving on my Corsairs yesterday I immediately pulled the Corsairs out again... never thought I would not take up the fight with Corsairs vs Zekes...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Selaroe at 78,119

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
LCT-362, Shell hits 1, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
LCT-328, Shell hits 2, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A6M5 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

and this means of course that the rest of them can bomb my landing crafts... again, fighters work just perfectly on 100ft, the attack bombes ain�t...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 39,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 14
Liberator GR.III x 3
B-17E Fortress x 17
B-24D1 Liberator x 21
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
241 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Liberator GR.III bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

if a unit stays in open terrain and with the weather bug outside of bases you could really wreck havoc with your bombers over a longer period...

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator GR.III x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Liberator GR.III bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 28
P-40K Warhawk x 20

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 4

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 7

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 55th JNAF AF Unit , at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 55th JNAF AF Unit , at 106,125 (Rabaul)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 4

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 30th Division, at 57,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 9

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

three squadrons, each lost three fighters? sure...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 45

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 51

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 9

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Submarine attack near Selaroe at 77,119

Japanese Ships
SS I-39

Allied Ships
LCT-322, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

LCT-322 is sighted by SS I-39
SS I-39 attacking LCT-322 on the surface

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Sub attack near Channel Islands at 222,78

Japanese Ships
SS I-17

Allied Ships
TK Frank G Drum

SS I-17 launches 6 torpedoes

had a lonely tanker that arrived at Balboa going to LA (home port of my tanker fleet) and one of the usual subs off the West Coast engaged the unescorted ship, scoring TWO duds... boy, that was lucky... or it was a miss and the message was wrong...

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