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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 12/9/2010 2:22:47 PM   
castor troy


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Status: offline 		As if my PBY op losses wouldnīt be severe enough (losing 100% of my replacements), having enemy carriers nearby means losing nearly a monthly replacement per DAY! Wonder how enemy carriers were ever spotted in real life when you lost all your patrol ac by ops and dozens of them in no time over enemy carriers. Absolutely the same for both sides of course. Would be great if there could be slightly more realism. As it stands now, my crews are flying around 2/3 of the missions that were flown in real life according to some i-net sources but I suffer horrendous op losses with hundreds of PBY lost to ops so far. If KB stays in range for a week, I would either lose 6 months Catalina replacements or I would have to stand all patrols down and be 100% blind. Odd... while I could find lots of sources stating aircraft x spotted enemy fleet I havenīt found anything about both sides patrols or float planes being comletely whiped out. And Iīve spent quite some time searching for this on the internet just recently. Well, guess either the sources of the devs arenīt available to me or it didnīt happen.




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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 12/9/2010 3:00:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know why my PBY losses are not as high as yours. I have had one or two turns where they took a beating while on patrol over heavy concentrations of fighters, but I am not short of cats and have about 90 in the two pools in mid 43. For the most part my cats and PBYs pretty much shrug off CAP. Now my opponent on the other hand, is getting his patrol aircraft reamed out by my CAP. Sometimes I shoot down ten a turn. Flak gets a few as well.

I really have not done much to tweak my patrols. Only, cautious commanders, train them up a bit in search and perhaps ASW or torpedo, usually 40% search and nothing else. Sometimes higher for periods. If there is a lot of CAP around I fly them at higher altitudes. It is rare that I lose a recon either. I tried the cats on naval attack and they are deadly when attacking-even with little or no torpedo skills. However, even with cautious commanders they will attack into any hornet's nest and I just can't affort to lose them this way. In fact, all of my naval bombers will attack into heavily defended bases with cautious commanders-somewhat negating their role in naval interdiction as I can't have them shot down attacking PBs in a base with a thousand fighters. I wish to hell commanders would show a little more discretion.......

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 12/9/2010 3:21:21 PM   
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ASW attack near Jesselton at 68,85

Japanese Ships
DD Yayoi
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
SS Grampus



SS Grampus launches 6 torpedoes at DD Yayoi
Grampus diving deep ....
DD Uzuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Uzuki is out of ASW ammo
DD Uzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Uzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Uzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Uzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

bad idea but happening several times daily...
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Sub attack near Maiana at 134,129

Japanese Ships
xAK Tuyama Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SC Ch 36
SC Ch 33
SC Ch 20
xAK Alaska Maru
PB Kaiun Maru
SC Ch 48
SC Ch 43

Allied Ships
SS Flier

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



SS Flier launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Tuyama Maru
PB Kaiun Maru fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 48 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 43 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 43 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 43 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 43 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 43 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

sinking a troop carrying freighter is nearly as nice as sinking a tanker... anyone know if troops being sunk on ships now counting as VP or are they still not being counted as it was in WITP?

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ASW attack near Daito Shoto at 103,68

Japanese Ships
xAK Asuka Maru
xAK Koto Maru
xAK Tarushima Maru
xAK Mikage Maru
xAK Ginyo Maru
E Wakataka
E Ishizaki

Allied Ships
SS Balao



SS Balao is sighted by escort
Balao diving deep ....
E Wakataka fails to find sub and abandons search
E Ishizaki fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Ishizaki fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Ishizaki attacking submerged sub ....
E Ishizaki fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Ishizaki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 6000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 22



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIb Sally: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIb Sally bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

as it stands now, we are repairing damage at Vinh faster than the enemy can inflict it... having a couple dozen useless AA MGs at Vinh proves to be a great idea...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Babeldaob at 87,97

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 317



Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 16


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 7 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVE Taiyo
BB Haruna
CVL Nisshin
CV Amagi



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
1 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 6 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 16 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
265 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 16 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
331 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 16 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 13 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 14 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 11 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 11 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
Junyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
Ryuho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 16 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
Unryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
Amagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 16 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes

there we go! KB kept racing East, again doing a 9 hex move in one turn! This is really surprising to me because high speed moves is something I try to really avoid as it so far always has caused damage I wasnīt really happy with. Due to thinking about the possibility of having a carrier clash today, weīve moved 9 PB4Y squadrons (all we have) to Ambon and Boela and have set them to nav attack. As always, we get "bombers fail to locate target due to range or weather" for most of them (this seems to be just standard for both sides) and 16 USN Liberators start off attacking KB. I was pretty shocked when I saw more than 300 Zekes in the air on Cap. Pre warning time was pretty bad, guess the strike wasnīt picked up by radar. Seems like 1000ft could be a good way to attack as this was also proved by 9 Nells attacking at 1000ft with one penetrating a 400 Hellcat Cap. Iīm unsure what carriers field the "Ku S-x" units, guess these are coming from the converted CVL and from CVE? Guess all enemy carriers had at least some Zekes on Cap so lets do a quick count. Estimated strength of enemy carrier based ac on the identified carriers is around 900, plus the carriers with the "Ku S-x" units. All in all, it seems the enemy is fielding some 1000 carrier based ac, which is more than I would have expected. The carriers are grouped in at least three different TFs. We sure have min a hundred carrier based ac more than the enemy in our fleet that is moving North with a big advantage in fighter numbers, probably 150-200 fighters more than the enemy. Not only do we have more fighters, ours are also more potent in taking down enemy aircraft and absorbing damage. The main advantage of the enemy was and still is their torpedo bomber which is worth at least two or three of my bombers when able to break through Cap. The high % of enemy Cap indicates that the enemy was not aiming at attacking my carriers but rather to defend the fleet from my LBA, which the Cap did... to some extent... Out of 16 bombers, 6 made it to target to drop their bombs, while the bombers took out DOZENS of enemy fighters, sending them home damaged. If you want to sweep the sky of enemy fighters, use 4Es. Donīt use your fighters, you are just going to suffer horrendous losses, use your 4Es. Guess four or five dozen heavy bombers are enough to wear down a 300 Zeke Cap. The only thing you really want to see is the bombers coming in BEFORE your carrier strike.

As you can see in the screenshot, our carrier fleet moved to the ordered position but AGAIN, they did NOT react! This is happening repeatedly in this PBEM. So we end up in 9 hexes distance of the enemy carrier force and our fleet is just sitting there even though the enemy fleet was spotted again and again and again. It really seems that carriers only react if aircraft from their TFs spot enemy carriers, otherwise they do just nothing. But how stupid would that be? And how is this supposed to work? If I have to be in escorted SBD range (7 hexes) then I donīt need my carriers to react because my bombers ARE IN RANGE then anyway (even though dropping 500lb bombs). And my floatplanes only got crappy range anyway. Thatīs what my PBY are for and thatīs why I lose them in the dozens every turn! So what the **** is happening that my carriers never ever react as long as the enemy carriers stay outside of my carrier based search ac? How odd is this really designed? My carriers moved 3 hexes at night and another 3 hexes during the day, and all of them are set to "react 2", none of them refuelled or did anything else. Yet they only kept sitting at their destination hex. My oh my, there are so many instances when the game does totally stupid things (or the way itīs designed is stupid if it is like mentioned above) that I canīt stop shaking my head. So there goes the enemy carrier fleet, moving on while being 100% safe as long as they donīt end up within SEVEN hexes because at greater range my carriers donīt do anything anyway, no matter what react setting theyīve got. But what happens if the enemy ends up within range? The it doesnīt matter what react setting you have ordered, your carrier TFs start stupidly reacting around to close the range, no matter if you want it or not, no matter what orders youīve given, most times screwing things up by getting separated, leaving your amphib TF alone or moving far enough to also end up in enemy LBA range even though you wanted to avoid this by all cost. I AM PISSED and there is good reason for it... again... whereīs the smiley Iīm looking for... there: itīs off once again, everything was just going perfectly, with 9 hexes away from KB, KB being spotted more than a dozen times, my LBA attacking KB and my carriers set to "react 2"... what happens? Nothing but my LBA being shot down and my carriers again staying in place... so silly...





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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 23



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Babeldaob at 87,97

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 257



Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Shoho
CL Abukuma
CVL Zuiho



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 16 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes
265 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
331 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 3000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 16 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 12 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 14 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 11 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 11 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
Junyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 4000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 3000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
Ryuho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 38000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
Unryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 3000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
Amagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes

this is in the afternoon, we start off with a dozen PBY spotting KB, detection level must have sky rocketed at this point... what happens with my carriers? Nothing, they just stay in place... so silly... so whatīs next? Yeah, exactly... "bombers fail to locate target due to range or weather"... ok, so we lose the next halve dozen PBY for nothing else than to know that KB is there... our carriers stay in place, no matter what and our LBA ends up with the same messages my opponent gets too when trying to attack with LBA... in the morning 16 attacking USN Liberators faced 317 Zekes on Cap, now in the afternoon, the laughable 9 bombers that made it to the target (out of 98 available bombers in range, a whopping 25 made it to target today ) only faced remaining 257 Zekes which again shows what a couple of heavies are able to do with enemy Cap... out of these 9 bombers an unbelievable 8 made it through Cap and dropped their load... all were missing (thank god) due to being shot up by Cap and flak and not really good weather... Iīm unsure how much I like the uber abilities of these 4e monsters, glad they didnīt score any hits on a carrier as this would be just too much for my taste... I donīt want to keep my 4Es from nav attack completely because this would leave the Japanese with their Nell/Betty/Frances which are able to perform just as off as my 4E are able to take out enemy fighters so this should compensate for it...

again, why my carriers donīt react is just beyond me... what a turn with lots of losses just for nothing...


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Afternoon Air attack on Bien Hoa , at 61,70

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 3



Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 46


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-21-IIb Sally: 6 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 3 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 53

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
21st Sentai with Ki-45 KAIc Nick (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Raid is overhead

attacking a Sally base that launched a strike against Vinh in the morning... some good results...

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Afternoon Air attack on Bien Hoa , at 61,70

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 6
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 6



Allied aircraft
Liberator B.III x 12


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.III: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
246th Sentai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
21st Sentai with Ki-45 KAIc Nick (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Raid is overhead

follow on strike of a series of piece meal strikes... of course, now that we stirred up a hornets nest, the piece meal strike face a bigger Cap than the initial "big" strike... the results are obvious of course...

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Afternoon Air attack on Bien Hoa , at 61,70

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 1
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 3



Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 5 damaged



Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
246th Sentai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 66 minutes
21st Sentai with Ki-45 KAIc Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 67 minutes

more of the same... I still donīt know if these kind of strikes should mirror squadrons losing their formation completely or if it should mirror waves... in both cases I find the outcome rather strange because squadrons didnīt get lost all the time (how often did this really happen?) and waves should be waves... thereīs just no sane reason to create waves smaller than a dozen bombers that then get shot up by enemy Cap when you can have seriously sized waves being able to defend themselves... while I was looking for a good explanation for it, I have yet to find one on the forum... and this is when I think that some things made more sense in WITP, even though there you had 1000 bomber strikes in the Pacific facing 300+ fighters on Cap... remember that this is still with no working radar... and I donīt want to think about how it looks like with working radar...

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Afternoon Air attack on Bien Hoa , at 61,70

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 5



Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 6 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
246th Sentai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead



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Ground combat at Koepang (68,116)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21725 troops, 331 guns, 476 vehicles, Assault Value = 1120

Defending force 4929 troops, 19 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 46

Allied adjusted assault: 205

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 29 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
665 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
Americal Infantry Division
33rd Infantry Division
Sixth US Army
224th USN Base Force
19th RAAF Base Force

Defending units:
21st Division


thatīs all what is left and this unit should banzai soon...



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ORIGINAL: crsutton

I don't know why my PBY losses are not as high as yours. I have had one or two turns where they took a beating while on patrol over heavy concentrations of fighters, but I am not short of cats and have about 90 in the two pools in mid 43. For the most part my cats and PBYs pretty much shrug off CAP. Now my opponent on the other hand, is getting his patrol aircraft reamed out by my CAP. Sometimes I shoot down ten a turn. Flak gets a few as well.

I really have not done much to tweak my patrols. Only, cautious commanders, train them up a bit in search and perhaps ASW or torpedo, usually 40% search and nothing else. Sometimes higher for periods. If there is a lot of CAP around I fly them at higher altitudes. It is rare that I lose a recon either. I tried the cats on naval attack and they are deadly when attacking-even with little or no torpedo skills. However, even with cautious commanders they will attack into any hornet's nest and I just can't affort to lose them this way. In fact, all of my naval bombers will attack into heavily defended bases with cautious commanders-somewhat negating their role in naval interdiction as I can't have them shot down attacking PBs in a base with a thousand fighters. I wish to hell commanders would show a little more discretion.......



as you can see on the screen above, Iīve already lost 429 PBY to OPS (only USN, with more of other nations) and I really miss the reason for it. I mostly use skill 70 nav search pilots, having them fly two missions max per week with the given settings but they drop out of the sky like flies die in winter. Recons do slightly better, I can at least replace these losses with perhaps a dozen each month. But nav search is insane, no matter if I use patrol ac or radar equipped patrol bombers. I donīt know if setting them higher will reall help when they end up over KB with 300 fighters in the air. Someone just recently posted it doesnīt matter if you set them at 1000ft 10000ft or 30000ft, they all spot the same which was quite irritating to me. If setting the PBY to their ceiling helps in avoiding being whiped out over enemy carriers then this would enhance realism but on the other hand, if I only have them flying at max alt this is pretty much unrealistic too I guess.

Enemy bombers and patrols are shot down just as mine. Weīve killed probably more than a hundred Nells on nav search over my Capped bases on New Guinea in the passed months. Same goes for Emilies and Mavis.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 24, 43
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Sub attack near Babeldaob at 91,96

Japanese Ships
DD Kyukaze

Allied Ships
SS KX



SS KX launches 2 torpedoes
KX diving deep ....
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

KB was moving further to Babeldaob, yet another time running over my subs not having to fear anthing...

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Sub attack near Babeldaob at 91,96

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu
BB Musashi
BB Yamato
CL Kitakami
DD Oshio
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Arare
DD Yamagumo

Allied Ships
SS KX, hits 12, heavy damage



SS KX launches 2 torpedoes at CV Hiryu
DD Hibiki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akatsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamagumo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hibiki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akatsuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hibiki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Arare fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hibiki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hibiki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

24th Dec, no present for me and Rainer is just as lucky as he ever was... there will come the time when it will swing into the complete opposite, it just has to... his fleet moves over a dozen of my subs on the way from Java to Peleliu... in return the sub is in sinking condition of course...

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Sub attack near Quinhon at 69,69

Japanese Ships
PB Yokae Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PB Eiko Maru
PB Chitose Maru
SC Ch 16
xAK Teisen Maru
xAK Kyokko Maru
xAK Yamabuki Maru
xAK Kusuyama Maru
xAK Oregon Maru
E W-14
PB Ogashima
PB Tatsumiya Maru

Allied Ships
SS Shad



SS Shad launches 6 torpedoes at PB Yokae Maru
Shad diving deep ....
E W-14 fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Ogashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumiya Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Ogashima fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Ogashima fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Tatsumiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

hurrey, we get a PB instead...

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Sub attack near Taytay at 73,81

Japanese Ships
TK Mirii Maru
TK Ryoei Maru
TK Ogura Maru #3
PB Ryuto Maru
PB Muroran Maru

Allied Ships
SS Rasher



SS Rasher launches 4 torpedoes at TK Mirii Maru
PB Ryuto Maru fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

we even miss a tanker today...

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ASW attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 63,78

Japanese Ships
E W-11
E W-8
E W-6
TK Kotai Maru
TK Takane Maru
TK Shiranesan Maru
TK Kyokuho Maru
TK Amagi Maru #2
DD Asakaze
E W-23
E W-16
E W-15

Allied Ships
SS Bluefish



SS Bluefish is sighted by escort
Bluefish diving deep ....
DD Asakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-23 fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-16 fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

and are driven off...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 6000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 23
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 25
Ki-84a Frank x 15



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 32

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 12


No Allied losses



Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 60


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 12


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 63


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 136

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

despite a rainy day we really trash the airfield today...

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Morning Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 16


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 43

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 1st Chinese Cavalry Cavalry Division, at 81,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 15
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 11



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 15


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 34

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Sorong is also high on the target list, probably going to take out that place within the next couple of weeks... Sorong isnīt a threat but can be built up to level 8 and is going to be a nice airfield to cover the Eastern flank of our advance... only a small garisson is holding the place, wonīt be a problem I guess... two divs plus support are tasked for this target and everything is 100% prepped already...

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Afternoon Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 15
B-24J Liberator x 30


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 121

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Ternate , at 78,102

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Ternate , at 78,102

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Ternate is the next place weīre going to land...

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Afternoon Air attack on Biak , at 87,110

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged



Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 16


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Ternate , at 78,102

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 12
B-24J Liberator x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 28

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Biak , at 87,110

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses



Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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ASW attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 68,72

Japanese Ships
PB Eiko Maru
PB Chitose Maru
SC Ch 16
xAK Teisen Maru
xAK Meiu Maru
xAK Yamabuki Maru
xAK Kusuyama Maru
xAK Oregon Maru
E W-14
PB Ogashima
PB Tatsumiya Maru

Allied Ships
SS Skate



SS Skate launches 6 torpedoes at PB Eiko Maru
Skate diving deep ....
E W-14 fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Ogashima fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Tatsumiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumiya Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Ground combat at Koepang (68,116)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30938 troops, 542 guns, 681 vehicles, Assault Value = 1119

Defending force 4446 troops, 18 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Allied adjusted assault: 545

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 109 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2954 casualties reported
Squads: 212 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 238 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
Americal Infantry Division
33rd Infantry Division
Sixth US Army
224th USN Base Force
19th RAAF Base Force

Defending units:
21st Division

thatīs it for 21st Div... while there are some guerilla units left on Timor, the majority of the enemy units have been whiped out... final tally was five divs, a bgd, halve a dozen tank units, lots of base forces and some HQs... all in all it was quite a loss for the Japanese, we have lost a couple of LST and thatīs it... canīt say that the defense of Timor was a success for the Japanese IMO...

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Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Koepang



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 6000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 20
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9
Ki-84a Frank x 14



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 15



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged



Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Sub attack near San Francisco at 216,73

Japanese Ships
SS I-29, hits 3

Allied Ships
xAP Starr King, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
xAP Katoomba
xAP Marella
xAP Zealandia
xAP Rajula
xAP Stephen J. Field
xAP Robert Morris
xAP Ruth Alexander
xAK Salamaua
xAK City of Manchester
xAK City of Yokohama
xAK West Notus
AM Quatsino



SS I-29 launches 6 torpedoes at xAP Starr King
AM Quatsino fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Quatsino attacking submerged sub ....
AM Quatsino fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Quatsino fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Quatsino fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

big troop convoy is returning to SF and again a sub lurking off our main base on the West Coast... the heavy escort I had didnīt help much but it doesnīt matter as the big troop ship is going to make it if not attacked again...

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Ground combat at 73,116

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7364 troops, 103 guns, 931 vehicles, Assault Value = 636

Defending force 16341 troops, 208 guns, 46 vehicles, Assault Value = 397

Allied adjusted assault: 249

Japanese adjusted defense: 251

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2225 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 120 disabled
Non Combat: 25 destroyed, 99 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 51 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 68 (16 destroyed, 52 disabled)


Assaulting units:
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st USMC Corps Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
5th Division
16th Division
18th Division

this is what is left of the Jap divs that defended Lautern... theyīre about to collapse...

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Ground combat at Lao Cai (68,53)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 173 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 14

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 13

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 13 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Lao Cai !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
50th Indian Para Bde /2


dropping 50th Indian paras on this dot base North of Hanoi as Iīve got some base forces incoming from Kunming, using the trails through the mountains to get onto the railline starting at Lao Cai...


weīve lost again more than halve a dozen PBY today as KB finally changed direction again and is now heading WEST! Iīm really not sure what Rainer is doing as it now seems that KB is heading back to Java... so other than having a couple of subs heavily damaged, having lost a couple of dozen PBY and PB4Y not much has happened...






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ASW attack near Bataan at 77,77

Japanese Ships
DD Asanagi
DD Oite
DD Sawakaze

Allied Ships
SS Flasher



SS Flasher launches 4 torpedoes at DD Asanagi
Flasher diving deep ....
DD Sawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sawakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub



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Sub attack near Tokara Retto at 99,62

Japanese Ships
E Hato
DD Yukaze
E Kamo

Allied Ships
SS Haddo, hits 1



SS Haddo launches 6 torpedoes at E Hato
Haddo diving deep ....
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub



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Sub attack near Damar at 76,113

Japanese Ships
SS I-37

Allied Ships
LCT-143
LCT-361
LCT-320



SS I-37 cannot acquire firing solution on enemy LCT
I-37 diving deep ....
Sub escapes detection

I have found a way to guard my LCT from enemy sub attacks... these barge TFs consist of 8 LCT and 2 PT and the PT force the subs to attack submerged but itīs obvious that a sub never attacks a LCT with torps as they always get "cannot acquire firing solution on enemy LCT"... since Iīve been using PTs to escort my LCTs I havenīt lost a single LCT to an enemy sub... that way I can use these barge convoys to reinforce and resupply my frontline bases without risking much... my convoys go to heavily defended bases near the front and from there the barge convoys pick up troops and supply to deliver them to newly conquered bases... using halve a dozen of these barge TFs for a single base...

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Submarine attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75

Japanese Ships
DD Asakaze
E W-11
E W-8
E W-6
TK Kotai Maru
TK Takane Maru
TK Shiranesan Maru
TK Kyokuho Maru
TK Amagi Maru #2
E W-23
E W-16, Shell hits 1, on fire
E W-15, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
SS Tuna, hits 23, and is sunk



SS Tuna launches 4 torpedoes at DD Asakaze
Tuna diving deep ....
DD Asakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-23 fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-16 fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-15 attacking submerged sub ....
E W-15 attacking submerged sub ....
SS Tuna forced to surface!
E W-15 firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Asakaze firing on surfaced sub ....
E W-23 firing on surfaced sub ....
E W-16 firing on surfaced sub ....
E W-15 firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Asakaze firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

there is a good reason why I say I hate it what my subs are doing... this is sub number four or five to be sunk within a very short timeframe... enemy ASW has skyrocketed at the end of 43, every fridging ship able to carry a depth charge has suddenly become a killer... we are really mirroring the Kriegsmarine in Dec as weīve lost a sub for every two enemy ships weīve sunk in Dec 43, not to talk about the dozen heavily damaged subs in Dec... if this isnīt some kind of loop that is happening by accident then I have to concede my sub war in early 44... Tuna duelled two E with her deck gun...

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ASW attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 70,74

Japanese Ships
DD Asakaze
E W-16, on fire
E W-15, on fire
E W-8
E W-6
E Yanagi
TK Kotai Maru
TK Takane Maru
TK Anjo Maru
TK Kyokuho Maru
TK Otowasan Maru
E W-23
E W-11

Allied Ships
SS Raton, hits 1



SS Raton launches 4 torpedoes at DD Asakaze
Raton diving deep ....
DD Asakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-23 attacking submerged sub ....
E W-11 fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-23 attacking submerged sub ....
E W-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-23 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

this is making me really mad at some point... it just doesnīt work if most attacks are aimed at enemy escorts...

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Sub attack near Sangi at 77,96

Japanese Ships
DD Kyukaze

Allied Ships
SS Archerfish



SS Archerfish launches 6 torpedoes
Archerfish diving deep ....
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

what I say...

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but then...

Sub attack near Sangi at 76,96

Japanese Ships
CV Amagi, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
CA Kako
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
CL Oyodo
DD Ishikaze
DD Susukaze
DD Hikokaze

Allied Ships
SS Devilfish



SS Devilfish launches 6 torpedoes at CV Amagi
Devilfish diving deep ....
DD Ishikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Susukaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hikokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hikokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hikokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hikokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hikokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hikokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hikokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Devilfish succesfully attacks one of the new Japanese carriers and puts two Mk14 into the carrier... the second torp cause an ammo storage explosion and while not burning, the carrier is showing up as heavily damaged now... must be a late xmas present for me and is exactly what I was talking about a couple of times as it just had to happen at some point if you constantly move over dozens of subs while never suffering for it... the carrier is far from a bigger port and there are more subs around to pick off the damage ship... this turn was a little frustrating until this point, you may imagine how I was smiling when two torps finally hit home...

even though my subs donīt show up on this screen of the replay, there are around a dozen of them between KBīs current location and Java...




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Sub attack near Sampit at 55,97

Japanese Ships
xAK Tenzan Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Ryuun Maru
xAK Nisso Maru
xAK Hokumai Maru
E Aotaka
E Yurijima

Allied Ships
SS Albacore



SS Albacore launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Tenzan Maru
Albacore bottoming out ....
E Aotaka fails to find sub and abandons search
E Yurijima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Yurijima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Yurijima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Yurijima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Yurijima fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Yurijima fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

and we get another freighter without suffering any damage...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 19
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 15



No Japanese losses



Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Babo , at 83,111

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 12
B-24J Liberator x 45
P-40K Warhawk x 11


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 45

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Babo , at 83,111

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 16


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

I didnīt expect KB to turn around again so I had set my heavies to airfield attack as secondary mission...

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Afternoon Air attack on Babo , at 83,111

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 15
B-24J Liberator x 16


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Babo , at 83,111

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses



Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Babo , at 83,111

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Sub attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 70,74

Japanese Ships
TK Amagi Maru #2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
E W-16
E W-15
E W-8
E W-6
E Yanagi
TK Kotai Maru
TK Takane Maru
TK Anjo Maru
TK Kyokuho Maru
TK Risshun Maru
TK Otowasan Maru
DD Asakaze
E W-23
E W-11

Allied Ships
SS Raton, hits 1



SS Raton launches 6 torpedoes at TK Amagi Maru #2
DD Asakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-23 fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-11 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

the enemy convoy that sunk Tuna earlier today then paid itīs price as Raton attacked again and this time succesfully fired a salvo on TK Amagi Maru... a tanker called Amagi Maru? Must be a good omen as we also have hit CV Amagi today... Second halve of this turn is the long needed morale boost for my subwarfare... the TK is full of fuel and is expected to be sunk...

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Sub attack near Sangi at 76,96

Japanese Ships
CV Amagi, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Ishikaze

Allied Ships
SS Devilfish, hits 1



SS Devilfish launches 6 torpedoes at CV Amagi
DD Ishikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Ishikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Ishikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Ishikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Ishikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

WOW!!! I hardly could believe my eyes, after putting two torps into Amagi in the morning, the whole day passed and Devilfish attacked Amagi again and has put another two torps into the stricken carrier. After suffering heavy damage from the two torps and an ammo storage explosion in the morning the carrier was separated from itīs TF and had only one escort, making it easy prey for another sub attack. Understandable that Rainer wasnīt happy about the carrier being split off with only one escort. Both torps caused massive damage and the carrier went down with all itīs aircraft aboard! Well done, very well done! Perhaps this is a lesson for the enemy and we can scare him away with a massive sub blockade, or at least make him more cautious because up to now, he really didnīt care about my subs at all when KB was operating in sub invested waters.



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Status: offline 		Iīm absolutely sure that CV Amagi was sunk by SS Devilfish today, this is also confirmed by the aircraft losses today. 68 carrier based ac destroyed on the ground. What I found a bit strange is what actually has been on the carrier. 32 Judies, 18 Jills and only 18 Zekes. Looks like Rainer likes to play with unit resize. But having 32 Judies with only 18 Zekes on such a carrier is something I wouldnīt do. Better having it the other way around for my taste, perhaps Rainer thinks his fighters would be useless anyway, I donīt know. While the Zekes got problem on escort or vs heavy bomber strikes, they shoot up Hellcats on escort and Allied carrier based bomber pretty well so having lots of Zekes for me would be preferrable over more bombers. As KB was in patrol ac range again weīve of course lost more than halve a dozen patrols again.




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Status: offline 		Wow - that's definitely got to hurt & make him think twice (or even three times) about rushing about with the KB when you're subs are around. He probably expected your subs to attack the escorts only & he got lazy.

What's his carrier strength look like?

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ASW attack near Donggala at 70,96

Japanese Ships
DD Arashio
BB Musashi
BB Yamato
CL Kitakami
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Arare
DD Yamagumo

Allied Ships
SS Nautilus, hits 5



SS Nautilus launches 4 torpedoes at DD Arashio
DD Hibiki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Akatsuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arare fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamagumo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

not that we wouldnīt have the chance to score on enemy capital ships... again a DD was targetted...

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ASW attack near Tandjoengselor at 69,95

Japanese Ships
DD Hakaze
E Kuretake
DD Tawakaze
DD Hokaze

Allied Ships
SS Grenadier



SS Grenadier launches 4 torpedoes at DD Hakaze
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hokaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

the same goes for Grenadier, attacking an ASW TF...

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ASW attack near Balabac at 70,83

Japanese Ships
DD Yayoi
DD Minazuki
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
SS Rasher, hits 9, heavy damage



SS Rasher is located by DD Yayoi
DD Minazuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Uzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Uzuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Uzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Uzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Uzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Uzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Rasher meets another ASW TF and ends up in sinking condition... 45/79/14... my subs have been dying like flies since the start of 12/43...


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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 6000 feet

as soon as weīve got radar at Vinh I will also put some fighters into the base...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 15
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 19



No Japanese losses



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
19 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 48


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 51

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

the Venturas arenīt really suited for attacks against defended targets as their durability is just too low compared to Mitchells for example... losing two today...

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Morning Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 12


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 12


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 18th Chinese Corps, at 81,54

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 14



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 15
B-24J Liberator x 46


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 127

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Ternate , at 78,102

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 21
B-24J Liberator x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 47

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Ternate , at 78,102

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 23


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 57

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 56


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 130

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Manado is a potential level 9 airfield and weīre going to attack this base within the next two months, this is going to be one of the most important targets for spring 44. With Manado built up we can dominate all of Borneo and far into the Philipines with our heavies... with radar and some surface assets the base is going to be a super tough target if the enemy actually thinks about attacking it... we shouldnīt have much problem to take the base as there are only 10000 reported troops, ground combat is going to be a cake walk..

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Afternoon Air attack on Biak , at 87,110

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 17


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

also Biak is on the list, only to clear the Eastern flank and free up the bombers that are regularly bombing the place...

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Afternoon Air attack on Biak , at 87,110

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 16


No Allied losses



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 45

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Biak , at 87,110

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses



Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Manado , at 75,99

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb


the usual losses, with four patrol ac lost to ops... a normal day...



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Ground combat at 73,116

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7194 troops, 103 guns, 928 vehicles, Assault Value = 632

Defending force 14639 troops, 197 guns, 44 vehicles, Assault Value = 310

Allied adjusted assault: 192

Japanese adjusted defense: 265

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2031 casualties reported
Squads: 48 destroyed, 96 disabled
Non Combat: 62 destroyed, 52 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 51 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 68 (3 destroyed, 65 disabled)


Assaulting units:
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st USMC Corps Tank Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
5th Division
16th Division
18th Division

our adjusted av looks awful but that doesnīt really matter, the enemy is taking far more losses and we lose the usual motorized support...

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Ground combat at Memboro (63,112)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1220 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 87

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 61

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 61 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Memboro !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+)



Assaulting units:
503rd Parachute Rgt /1
3rd USMC Parachute Bn /1


para drop on Memboro (dot base North of Koepang)... going to fly in more paras and a fast transport TF will bring in a Marine raider btn to hold Memboro while the paras are marching onto Waingapo (?), the base South of it with a level 2 airfield and some 2000 Japanese defending the place (only second line support troops without much combat ability)...



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Wow - that's definitely got to hurt & make him think twice (or even three times) about rushing about with the KB when you're subs are around. He probably expected your subs to attack the escorts only & he got lazy.

What's his carrier strength look like?



it just worked by far too often to run over my subs, Rainer isnīt even aware about how many there really are because he most often doesnīt spot them and only notices when a) my subs attack, b) are driven off by his ASW or c) when I tell him that itīs driving me nuts that he can do that so often with my subs being totally useless And Iīve always told him too that at some point the subs just have to bite, which Devilfish did.

His carrier strenght? Well, guess he had all his carriers in one basket when my PB4Y attacked, more than one and a halve dozen carriers, something like a thousand carrier based ac in total.

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ASW attack near Portland Roads at 94,132

Japanese Ships
SS I-181

Allied Ships
SC-1064
SC-1067



SS I-181 is sighted by escort
I-181 diving deep ....
SC-1067 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Maryborough at 105,158

Japanese Ships
SS I-28

Allied Ships
AM Daring, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK William Williams
xAK Thomas A. Edison
xAK Nathaniel Currier
xAK James B. McPherson
AM Direct
AM Dash



SS I-28 launches 6 torpedoes at AM Daring
I-28 diving deep ....
AM Direct fails to find sub and abandons search
AM Dash fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Dash fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Dash fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Dash fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Dash fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

a minesweeper is expandable... still, I hate losing ships, especially to subs...

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ASW attack near Bandjermasin at 62,101

Japanese Ships
DD Kisaragi
DD Nagatsuki
DD Kikuzuki

Allied Ships
SS O23, hits 16



SS O23 is sighted by escort
DD Nagatsuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Nagatsuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Nagatsuki is out of ASW ammo
DD Nagatsuki is out of ASW ammo
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Nagatsuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kikuzuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

guess I mentioned that 12/43 seems to be the beginning of the end for our sub warfare... donīt know why Japanese ASW was totally ineffective until 12/43 and then suddenly sky rocketed...

O23 ends up with 51 sys 51 flt and is in sinking condition with such a high sys damage... both SS Haddo 26/4 and SS Gunnel 23/5 were hit by air ASW and are both retiring...

not much difference between the Kriegsmarine of real life in the Atlantic in late 43 and the Allied subs in this PBEM...

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ASW attack near Busselton at 48,148

Japanese Ships
SS I-39

Allied Ships
AMC Cornwallis, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Martand
xAK City of Canterbury
xAK Mulbera



SS I-39 launches 6 torpedoes at AMC Cornwallis
I-39 diving deep ....
Escort abandons search for sub

we then lose a second escort today to enemy subs...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 15
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 10



No Japanese losses



Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
10 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 73,116

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 12
Spitfire VIII x 15
Kittyhawk III x 5
P-39N1 Airacobra x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 24
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 23
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
PV-1 Ventura x 84


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...
Also attacking 16th Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...

ordered the Venturas to attack the remnants of these divisions on Timor, was more like a training strike but I will halt these strikes because the game sends 80 fighters with the 84 bombers to a target that is never going to have any Cap and this is just far too much risk of taking op losses every day... mmmm....

the usual losses, out of 9 ac lost in total, 6 were on nav search... so silly...




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Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10544 troops, 62 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2182

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 182

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 182 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Nanning !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:



Assaulting units:
11th Chinese Corps
31st Chinese Corps
50th Chinese Corps
35th Chinese Corps
12th Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
34th Group Army
37th Group Army


the Japanese have moved an Army to take Nanning a couple of months ago, now that our assault on Pingsiang failed Iīve ordered units in Vietnam and South West China to move on Nanning again to liberate the road connection between China and Vietnam again... the enemy saw us coming from both sides and bugged out with his 17 units (several divided divs as usual but this trick long hasnīt worked anymore)... we take the empty base... we are now focussing on this area to defend it with force as the Vietnam bases (especially Hanoiīs level 9 airfield) will play a big part in the next 6 months when we want to rule the China Sea... coming from the South the enemy shipping could evade us using shipping lanes near the South China and Vietnamese coast, but this doesnīt work if weīve got a level 9 airfield at Hanoi... if we move some 20 hexes further North from where the front is now we can interdict any shipping in the South China Sea already...



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ASW attack near Busuanga at 76,79

Japanese Ships
DD Oite
DD Sawakaze
DD Asanagi

Allied Ships
SS Flasher, hits 3



SS Flasher launches 4 torpedoes at DD Oite
DD Sawakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi attacking submerged sub ....
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asanagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

SS Flasher is stupid enough to attack an ASW TF, result is a miss as usual and 30 sys 23 flt damage... retiring...

SS Haddo was again hit by air ASW and sunk... "hello, my name is Karl Dönitz"...

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Pre-Invasion action off Ternate

60 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CA Frobisher
CA Hawkins
CL Concord
CL Marblehead
CL Trenton
CL Achilles
CL Leander
CLAA Prince Robert
LST-339
LST-119
LST-120
DMS Elliot
LST-44


Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


CA Frobisher firing at 30th JNAF AF Unit
CA Hawkins firing at 60th JNAF AF Unit
CL Concord firing at 30th JNAF AF Unit
CL Marblehead firing at 30th JNAF AF Unit
CL Trenton firing at 60th JNAF AF Unit
CL Achilles firing at 15th Garrison Unit
CL Leander firing at 60th JNAF AF Unit
CLAA Prince Robert firing at 30th JNAF AF Unit
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Ternate

TF 297 troops unloading over beach at Ternate, 78,102


Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled)


10 troops of a US Cmbt Eng Sqd 43 lost overboard during unload of 24th Infantry Div /2
13 troops of a USA Rifle Squad 43 lost overboard during unload of 40th Infantry Div /10

with KB being chased away by my subs and the invasion TF having been in standby in this area Iīve decided to send the troops in... thereīs not much that could harm the invasion, two LST are lightly damaged during beaching... being 100% prepped, the landing is yet another cakewalk...

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Invasion Support action off Ternate

26 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CA Frobisher
CA Hawkins
CL Concord
CL Marblehead
CL Trenton
CL Achilles
CL Leander
CLAA Prince Robert
LST-44
DMS Elliot
LST-120



CA Frobisher firing at 60th JNAF AF Unit
CA Hawkins firing at 60th JNAF AF Unit
CL Concord firing at 30th JNAF AF Unit
CL Marblehead firing at 60th JNAF AF Unit
CL Trenton firing at 30th JNAF AF Unit
CL Leander firing at 60th JNAF AF Unit
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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ASW attack near Fukue-jima at 99,59

Japanese Ships
DD Yukaze
E Kamo

Allied Ships
SS Bonefish



SS Bonefish is sighted by escort
Bonefish diving deep ....
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Daito Shoto at 101,70

Japanese Ships
E Ukishima
AO Ashizuri
TK Azuchisan Maru
TK Namba Maru
TK Mutsuyo Maru
TK Kinmon Maru
DD Matsukaze
E Takashima
E Hoko

Allied Ships
SS Trigger



SS Trigger is sighted by escort
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Takashima fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hoko attacking submerged sub ....
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hoko fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Aogashima at 112,66

Japanese Ships
E Manju
xAK Kurohime Maru
xAK Naples Maru
xAK Holland Maru
xAK Aden Maru
DD Hatsuyuki
E Sagi

Allied Ships
SS Tang, hits 2



SS Tang is sighted by escort
DD Hatsuyuki attacking submerged sub ....
E Sagi fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsuyuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

great day again, 12 sys...

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Sub attack near Aogashima at 112,66

Japanese Ships
E Miyake
E Manju
xAK Kurohime Maru
xAK Naples Maru
xAK Holland Maru
xAK Aden Maru
DD Hatsuyuki
E Sagi

Allied Ships
SS Tang, hits 1



SS Tang launches 6 torpedoes at E Miyake
Tang diving deep ....
DD Hatsuyuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hatsuyuki is out of ASW ammo
DD Hatsuyuki is out of ASW ammo
DD Hatsuyuki is out of ASW ammo
E Sagi fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsuyuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hatsuyuki is out of ASW ammo
DD Hatsuyuki is out of ASW ammo
DD Hatsuyuki is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub


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Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 4



Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 12


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 Det A with A6M3a Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
251 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes

isnīt that fun? Set your squadrons to sweep, look them coming in each on their own, the first one with halve strenght... silly coordination...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 6000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 21



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 3



Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
PV-1 Ventura x 60


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 51

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 Det A with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
251 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes

then the bombers show up already...

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Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 36
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
PV-1 Ventura x 24


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

some more Lightnings on sweep joined the bombers...

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Afternoon Air attack on Denpasar , at 58,108

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 21



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 58


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 11 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 80

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
248th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(21 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
21 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
251 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M3a Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

here weīve deliberately sent in the bombers without any sweeps or escorts as this will keep our losses to a minimum... game wise, as an Allied player you must be stupid to use your fighters for anything else than Cap if you can afford the morale hit of heavies going in against Cap because thatīs the way to keep your total losses low... send some escorts and watch them being shred, send sweeps and watch them going in in bits and pieces and being shred as soon as youīve patched the game (more about this as soon as you will notice the AAR has caught up with the patched game, itīs exactly what I was talking about and what I have feared... for both sides... and itīs causing me headache)...

itīs not the fighters hurting our bombers, itīs the other way around...


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Afternoon Air attack on Denpasar , at 58,108

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 13



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 16


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 9 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M3a Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
248th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 111 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Denpasar , at 58,108

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
251 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M3a Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
248th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 72 minutes

when the bombers start showing up in silly piece meal waves thereīs not much left of the Cap...

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Afternoon Air attack on Denpasar , at 58,108

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 16


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 43

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
248th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

these "waves" are just too small...

in the end, three B-24 are lost, something I can easily afford... ordering 100 P-38 on escort while losing 20 to the enemy Cap is something I can NOT afford... 3 B-24 is not even 5% of the monthly replacement, 20 P-38 would be 50% of the monthly replacement...




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Invasion Support action off Ternate
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
LST-479
LST-44
LST-120



LST-479 fired at enemy troops


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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3714 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 174

Defending force 27587 troops, 450 guns, 592 vehicles, Assault Value = 832

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
15th Garrison Unit
8th Indpt SNLF Coy
30th JNAF AF Unit
60th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
24th Infantry Div /21
110th Combat Engr Bn /1
40th Infantry Div /21
I US Amphib Corps /1
181st USAAF Base Force /6
228th USN Base Force /7

the Japanese units wonīt be much of a problem for the two US divs...

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Ground combat at 73,116

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7009 troops, 100 guns, 876 vehicles, Assault Value = 629

Defending force 13142 troops, 185 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 252

Allied adjusted assault: 299

Japanese adjusted defense: 49

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2015 casualties reported
Squads: 35 destroyed, 90 disabled
Non Combat: 48 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 52 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
762nd Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
1st USMC Corps Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
5th Division
16th Division
18th Division


the Jap divs are really suffering against my tanks...



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 6000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 20



No Japanese losses



Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

am still waiting for more base forces showing up in Vietnam, at the moment, only Hanoi got a couple or radar sets as thatīs the only base we defend with fighters... as soon as we have halve a dozen more radar sets in Vietnam we will badly surprise the Japanese over Vinh...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 11



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3
B-17F Fortress x 12
B-24D Liberator x 3
B-24J Liberator x 47


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 140

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Sorong is hit hard in good weather...

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Morning Air attack on Babo , at 83,111

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 30
B-24J Liberator x 15


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 37

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Biak , at 87,110

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 37


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

donīt have a problem with such waves...

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Morning Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

but waves of 12 bombers or smaller are just piss poor...

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Morning Air attack on Babo , at 83,111

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 12


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

every turn these combat reports look like everything has gone wrong... must have been a funny war, screwing up 99% of the operations every day, you may wonder how the Allied were able to lay waste over Germany... or did they have a different "coordination routine"? the middle way between WITP and AE would be great... itīs the old problem of the pendulum, if it swings, it usually swings too far to one side...

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Morning Air attack on Biak , at 87,110

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

just wait for all the games going with working radar for a couple of months, losses will sky rocket... but hey, itīs all been tested I guess...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 64,107

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 338



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 28


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 destroyed, 23 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
CVE Unyo
CVL Shoho
CVL Chiyoda
CV Taiho
BB Mutsu



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 6 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 16 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
265 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 17 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
331 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 16 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 13 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 14 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 11 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 11 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 17 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
Junyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 10 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
Ryuho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 6 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 19 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
Unryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 16 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes

here comes KB again... looks like my Ternate invasion has triggered a move again, this time South and not East through my "sub blockade"... thereīs also a blockade in this area though, without any success though... after taking down one and a halve dozen patrol aircraft KB is attacked by USAAF heavies from Dili... 80% of them get the usual "bomber fail to locate target due to range or weather" or "bomber fail to link up returning to base" (this is just standard for the game) so the first wave is going in with a good two dozen bombers... we already know that each B-24 is worth halve a dozen Corsairs and the bombersī gunners have a field day once more knocking out Zeke after Zeke... this is the so called "B-24 sweep"... all bombers are shot up of course but they reduced the enemy Cap by something like 80 Zekes... this not enough, 18 out of 28 bombers then dropped their load near the enemy capital ships while hitting nothing as theyīre all missing nav bomb skill as I donīt expect the USAAF heavies to destroy enemy shipping... donīt know if Rainer is aware of it, but with being 11 hexes from Dili heīs quite lucky, because if he gets into 10 hexes range he would also be facing lots of B-25 and Venturas set to 1000ft nav attack and with the B-24 as escorts, this then could result in a couple of bomb hits on his fragile flattops...

our fleet is parked next to Ternate of course to cover the invasion, I seriously doubt Rainer is bold enough to send KB East now passing Kendari as this would bring him into range of all my LBA in this area that of course has been set to nav attack immediately... and it also would force the carrier engagement we were aiming lately which was avoided by the Japanese... my fleet will stay with the invasion TF as the APA are just to precious to be left alone and I expect KB to head back to Java anyway after the encounter with my heavies... three of these B-24 waves could knock out all of KBīs Cap...






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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 64,107

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 250



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Unryu



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
331 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 14 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Raid is overhead
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 13 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 14 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 10 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 11 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 15 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Junyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 10 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Ryuho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 19 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
Unryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 13 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes

just like the first wave, also the second is hitting the enemy fighters hard... only 9 bombers incoming, doesnīt matter, 7 make it to target despite a 250 Zeke Cap... Cap again was reduced dozens of Zekes... all hail to the B-24 sweeps...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 64,107

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 181



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 6


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Nisshin
CVL Chitose



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 12 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
Junyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 11 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
Unryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 20 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
265 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 11 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 10 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 10 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Ryuho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 15 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes

third piece meal wave coming in, at this point the original Cap of 338 was reduced by 37 B-24 to 181! Try to send twice the number of first line fighters and be assured that you wonīt reduce the enemy Cap as much while probably losing 50 fighters... 6 bombers of this wave incoming, 6 bombers dropping their load...

in the end, our bomber squadrons were hit hard of course, with all the write offs weīve suffered 25 out 43 bombers lost with a dozen crews missing... but these 43 bombers took out more than 50% of the 330+ Zeke Cap... if you get a turn without the majority of your bombers missing the target as usual this gets nasty within a moment and could end in a complete whipeout if there are also our carriers coming into play... this probably is a lesson for the enemy, lots of subs and lots of B-24 should mean stay away from that area... with the front reaching the SRA the enemy needs a decisive victory but he also needs a fleet in being because this forces me to use all my carriers in one basket for every step forward... if he loses halve of KB with us getting away in good condition then we can operate in the SRA at will because our B-24 with blast the way and the Japanese suffer from the same issues as we do, most of their bombers donīt show up at all over the fleet or are coming in piece meal... and to make it worse, their bombers are shot down like flies by our Hellcats while our B-24 are more a threat to the enemy fighters than vice versa...

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Ground combat at 73,116

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6797 troops, 100 guns, 881 vehicles, Assault Value = 592

Defending force 11710 troops, 179 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 186

Allied adjusted assault: 260

Japanese adjusted defense: 9

Allied assault odds: 28 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1536 casualties reported
Squads: 92 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 70 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 10 (6 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 28 (2 destroyed, 26 disabled)


Assaulting units:
193rd Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
1st USMC Corps Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
5th Division
16th Division
18th Division


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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23845 troops, 438 guns, 528 vehicles, Assault Value = 833

Defending force 5375 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 171

Allied adjusted assault: 808

Japanese adjusted defense: 214

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
859 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
134 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled


Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Division
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
40th Infantry Division
I US Amphib Corps
181st USAAF Base Force
228th USN Base Force

Defending units:
15th Garrison Unit
8th Indpt SNLF Coy
30th JNAF AF Unit
60th JNAF AF Unit


Ternate only reached level 3 forts, another indication that Rainer either started far too late building up his bases in this area or he really didnīt think this would be my main axis of advance... small garisson, low forts, the base will be ours soon... airfield can be built up to level 6, not big enough for massed 4Es but a nice forward base to cover our jump onto Manado only four hexes away... heavy bombers will stay at Ambon (USN Liberators on nav attack) and Boela (USSAF B-24 on tactical attacks against enemy strongholds)...



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Status: offline 		You need to check on plane losses in tracker since it appears to remove the FOW. At any rate, your B-24 sweeps may damage several Zero's, but not so many are being killed. According to your screen shot, the B-24 are getting a 1:2 kill rate. (I would like to know what tracker says, since the game screen tends to inflate enemy losses.) As a JFB I would gladly take that exchange.

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ORIGINAL: cap_and_gown

You need to check on plane losses in tracker since it appears to remove the FOW. At any rate, your B-24 sweeps may damage several Zero's, but not so many are being killed. According to your screen shot, the B-24 are getting a 1:2 kill rate. (I would like to know what tracker says, since the game screen tends to inflate enemy losses.) As a JFB I would gladly take that exchange.



I donīt care much about how many Zeroes are shot down, even if it would be none at all, the effect of the heavy bombers on KB is immense as a couple of dozen bombers are enough to wear down hundreds of fighters on Cap. Neither the actual losses of KBīs Zeroes nor the B-24 matter much but the fact that KB canīt stand the attack of 50 B-24 should alert every Japanese player IMO. And I guess if there would be follow on strikes by a hundred Venturas/B-25 on 1000ft nav attack flown by 70 skilled pilots you would not be really glad about that exchange.

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ASW attack near Makassar at 62,107

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma
CL Yura
DD Shimakaze
DD Takakaze
DD Arikaze

Allied Ships
SS Trusty



SS Trusty is sighted by escort
DD Takakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

our subs are at the right spots at least...

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ASW attack near Makassar at 62,107

Japanese Ships
DD Susuzuki
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
CA Kako
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
CL Oyodo
DD Ishikaze
DD Susukaze
DD Hikokaze

Allied Ships
SS Trusty



SS Trusty launches 6 torpedoes at DD Susuzuki
Trusty diving deep ....
DD Ishikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Susukaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hikokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hikokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hikokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hikokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hikokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hikokaze attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

guess thatīs KB... the sinking of Amagi hasnīt made Rainer any more cautious it seems... doesnīt matter as long as the subs target escorts...

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Sub attack near Groot Natoena at 61,84

Japanese Ships
xAK Hukusei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
E Oki
AG Muroto
xAK Zuiko Maru
xAK Konan Maru
xAK Zyunyo Maru
xAK Tihuku Maru
xAK Singapore Maru
E Ishinui
E Fukue

Allied Ships
SS Finback, hits 2



SS Finback launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Hukusei Maru
Finback diving deep ....
E Ishinui attacking submerged sub ....
E Fukue attacking submerged sub ....
E Ishinui attacking submerged sub ....
E Fukue fails to find sub and abandons search
E Ishinui attacking submerged sub ....
E Ishinui attacking submerged sub ....
E Ishinui attacking submerged sub ....
E Ishinui fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

damaging a freighter with no reported damage...

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Sub attack near Daito Shoto at 99,72

Japanese Ships
E W-3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Takekun Maru
TK Ogura Maru #2
E Kamome

Allied Ships
SS Trigger



SS Trigger launches 6 torpedoes at E W-3
Trigger diving deep ....
E Kamome fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamome fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamome fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamome fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamome fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

and sinking an E vessel which can be seen as success...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 6000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Memboro , at 63,112

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 5



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 6000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Memboro , at 63,112

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 39,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 3



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 36750 feet

interesting these sweeps...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 19
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 18



No Japanese losses



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manokwari , at 85,109

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 48


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 43

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

game has been patched up and the AAR has reached the patched status now... with attack bomber bug fixed weīve sent them out on a try... set them to 10000ft, none of the groups got any grd bomb skill (though 70 lownav and 70 lowgrd) and they work just fine from 10000ft... donīt know what to say, I was just shaking my head... if you can use attack bombers without any grd bomb skill from 10000ft and get such results then I donīt know what I should do with them... it now looks like doing 1 year of lownav/lowgrd training wasnīt necessary because I could use them in level bombing mode now just like every other level bomber (which would be odd in terms of realism)... really donīt know, attack bombers leave me just as puzzled as I ever have been since release...

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Morning Air attack on Manokwari , at 85,109

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 6


No Allied losses



Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manokwari , at 85,109

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 9


No Allied losses



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manokwari , at 85,109

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 6


No Allied losses



Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manokwari , at 85,109

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 8


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

If I would send the same number of B-24 at 10000ft, all carrying 10 bombs instead of 6 I would not get much better results... but my 4E groups got 75 grd bomb skill on average and not 15...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Bima at 62,109

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 24



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Fumizuki
DD Nagatsuki



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
265 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Raid is overhead
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
Unryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes

we still got our USAAF heavies on long range "sweep" missions, attacking some DD today... two dozen Zekes are showing up... all bombers just kept closing onto the target as if nothing is happening...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Bima at 62,109

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 12



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Fumizuki
DD Kisaragi



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Raid is overhead
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Raid is overhead
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Raid is overhead
Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead



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Afternoon Air attack on 503rd Parachute Regiment, at 63,112 (Memboro)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 38,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 93



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
14 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 38500 feet
13 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 38500 feet
11 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 16000 feet
11 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 16000 feet
11 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 38500 feet
10 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 6000 feet
8 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 16000 feet
8 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 16000 feet
7 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 6000 feet

lol, you just have to laugh your a$$ off when looking at the silly coordination of AE... itīs plain silly... this is a failed escort attempt of KB that is lurking in this area and the Zeroes are trying to escort a LBA strike from Java... wow, you better not call it a design decision but a bug instead because bugs get fixed while design decisions were near perfect as we know... can we call it a bug please? It sure brings up bugged results... stupid coordination "routine" (bbd = bug by design) sends out 1/3 of KBīs fighters on a failed escort attempt that then turns out to be a mega sweep on 3 different altitudes with everything showing up together, something you are unable to ORDER... heck, this all is so stupid it should have never passed beta... in 99% of the time your sweeps look so stupid you can only shake your head but if a carrier TF fails to do a silly attempt of escorting a land based strike then you get 93 fighters into one sweep... so SILLY!

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Afternoon Air attack on 503rd Parachute Regiment, at 63,112 (Memboro)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 39,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 9



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 38500 feet

only 9 Zeroes fail to fly with the failed escort attempt... note the word fail... this whole routine is a failure...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Mataram at 60,110

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 142



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 15


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 15 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku
CVL Chitose
BB Musashi
CL Oyodo



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
265 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
331 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
Junyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
Ryuho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes

80% of the bombers failed to locate the target due to range or weather or they failed to link up... funny, even the gameīs messages talk about failures all the time... even more funny that in this PBEM KB didnīt fail to send a strike consisting of 505 aircraft even though thatīs about twice the number of ac in one wave the carriers could have sent in real life... omg, CDI vs NOD...




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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Mataram at 60,110

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 66



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed




CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
331 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Raid is overhead
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Raid is overhead
Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
Junyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
Ryuho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
265 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes

wouldnīt it be great to get a full sized carrier strike or LBA strike that actually got some teeth against KB? Not much left of KBīs Cap...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Mataram at 60,110

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 62



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 4


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
331 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Raid is overhead
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Raid is overhead
Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Junyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
Ryuho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
265 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes



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Sub attack near Bima at 62,109

Japanese Ships
DD Nagatsuki
DD Kikuzuki

Allied Ships
SS KXVIII, hits 2



SS KXVIII launches 4 torpedoes at DD Nagatsuki
KXVIII diving deep ....
DD Nagatsuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kikuzuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

wrong target again, only two near misses in return...

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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23641 troops, 438 guns, 528 vehicles, Assault Value = 816

Defending force 4490 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 120

Allied adjusted assault: 1522

Japanese adjusted defense: 538

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
286 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
324 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 14 (1 destroyed, 13 disabled)


Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Division
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
40th Infantry Division
I US Amphib Corps
181st USAAF Base Force
228th USN Base Force

Defending units:
15th Garrison Unit
30th JNAF AF Unit
60th JNAF AF Unit

we really get excellent adjusted av here... the HQ works just perfectly...

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Ground combat at Memboro (63,112)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 628 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 44

Defending force 2160 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 119

Japanese adjusted assault: 3

Allied adjusted defense: 238

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 79 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), leaders(+), preparation(-)
fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
379 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
4th Raiding Rgt /1
3rd Raiding Rgt /1

Defending units:
1st USMC Parachute Battalion
3rd USMC Parachute Battalion
503rd Parachute Regiment


why we get a (-) for op mode is beyond me because the units are in combat mode of course... the Japanese wonīt have a chance to kick the paras off the island because I bet there arenīt any units prepped for this dot base (so no amphib landing) and his paras are just too weak while we are flying in another para unit and are moving in a USMC raider btn by fast transport... the paras are tasked to move on Waingapoe now to take the airfield (size 2)... a USN base force and the raider btn will hold the dot base here and LCT will bring in more supplies... both Memboro and Waingapoe can be built up to size 7 airfields which brings Soerabaja into P-38 range...



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Status: offline 		The 4E attack on KB has cost us a whopping 4 bombers, we lost 5 PBY again though... seriously doubt that Rainer will move KB any closer to Dili, even though you can be sure that at least 75% of the bombers would fail to launch or fail to locate the target...




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wouldnīt it be great to get a full sized carrier strike or LBA strike that actually got some teeth against KB? Not much left of KBīs Cap...



No Castor, it wouldn't be great.
Using heavy bombers this way you make it - a sponge to lessen and wipe the KB's CAP - seems pretty unfair to any JFB given the game routine of almost indestructible Allied 4Es.

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quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

wouldnīt it be great to get a full sized carrier strike or LBA strike that actually got some teeth against KB? Not much left of KBīs Cap...



No Castor, it wouldn't be great.
Using heavy bombers this way you make it - a sponge to lessen and wipe the KB's CAP - seems pretty unfair to any JFB given the game routine of almost indestructible Allied 4Es.




well, as long as KB could send a 505 aircraft strike (twice as much a wave could be in real life) A YEAR AGO (with at least 4 carriers in total less than now and not all carriers in one basket) I guess I donīt feel for them facing my 4Es.

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ASW attack near Tandjoengselor at 69,95

Japanese Ships
DD Hokaze
E Kuretake
DD Tawakaze

Allied Ships
SS Grenadier, hits 2



SS Grenadier is located by DD Hokaze
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hokaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hokaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hokaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Hokaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Hokaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Hokaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hokaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Hokaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Hokaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Hokaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Hokaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Hokaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Hokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

the only good thing about enemy ASW forces operating inside the SRA is the fact that they seem not to be able to replenish their depth charges in this area...

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Sub attack near Sepandjang at 60,107

Japanese Ships
DD Kisaragi
DD Nagatsuki
DD Kikuzuki

Allied Ships
SS Tally Ho



SS Tally Ho launches 6 torpedoes at DD Kisaragi
Tally Ho diving deep ....
DD Nagatsuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Nagatsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Nagatsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Nagatsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Nagatsuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Nagatsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Tanegashima at 103,67

Japanese Ships
E Hato
DD Yukaze
E Kamo

Allied Ships
SS Peto



SS Peto launches 6 torpedoes at E Hato
Peto diving deep ....
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukaze attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

and we keep on firing on escorts every day...

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Sub attack near Laoag at 80,69

Japanese Ships
PB Hokuyo Maru
SC Ch 44
SC Ch 40
SC Ch 31
AO Naruto
TK Eiho Maru
TK Ayagiri Maru
TK Tatibana Maru
TK Ogura Maru #1
E Tatsuko
E W-13
E Yomogi
PB Kinsyo Maru #4

Allied Ships
SS Rock, hits 4, heavy damage



SS Rock launches 6 torpedoes at PB Hokuyo Maru
Rock diving deep ....
E Tatsuko fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-13 attacking submerged sub ....
E Yomogi fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Kinsyo Maru #4 attacking submerged sub ....
SS Rock eludes PB Kinsyo Maru #4 by hugging bottom
SS Rock eludes PB Kinsyo Maru #4 by hugging bottom
SS Rock eludes ASW attack from PB Kinsyo Maru #4
PB Kinsyo Maru #4 cannot reach attack position over SS Rock
E W-13 fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Kinsyo Maru #4 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kinsyo Maru #4 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kinsyo Maru #4 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kinsyo Maru #4 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kinsyo Maru #4 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kinsyo Maru #4 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kinsyo Maru #4 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

same here and this time the sub is in sinking condition...

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ASW attack near Balikpapan at 66,98

Japanese Ships
DD Hakaze
E Kuretake
DD Tawakaze

Allied Ships
SS Trident



SS Trident is located by DD Hakaze
Trident diving deep ....
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tawakaze cannot reach attack position over SS Trident
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 6000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 17



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Sub attack near Torishima at 109,68

Japanese Ships
E Maeshima, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Sureboko Maru
xAK Seisyo Maru
xAK Kinsyu Maru
xAK Glasgow Maru
xAK Florida Maru
E Sureko

Allied Ships
SS Herring



SS Herring launches 6 torpedoes at E Maeshima
Herring diving deep ....
E Sureko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Sureko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Sureko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Sureko fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Sureko fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

fifth attack on an escort means a hit today...

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Submarine attack near Groot Natoena at 60,84

Japanese Ships
xAK Hukusei Maru, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Finback



xAK Hukusei Maru is sighted by SS Finback
SS Finback launches 4 torpedoes

also attacking an already damaged freighter without escorts...

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Ground combat at 73,116

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6745 troops, 100 guns, 879 vehicles, Assault Value = 592

Defending force 9852 troops, 166 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 121

Allied adjusted assault: 231

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 46 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2777 casualties reported
Squads: 286 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 351 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 90 (87 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1



Assaulting units:
193rd Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st USMC Corps Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
16th Division
5th Division
18th Division


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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23192 troops, 438 guns, 527 vehicles, Assault Value = 785

Defending force 4018 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 106

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Allied adjusted assault: 1122

Japanese adjusted defense: 127

Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Ternate !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
794 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 42 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled


Assaulting units:
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
24th Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
I US Amphib Corps
181st USAAF Base Force
228th USN Base Force

Defending units:
15th Garrison Unit
30th JNAF AF Unit
60th JNAF AF Unit


Ternate falls and weīre already moving in construction units to build up that place asap... as soon as Ternate has reached level 6 airfield (max size, currently level 3) we can attempt the jump to Menado (four hexes from Ternate)... weīre indetifying a huge buildup on Mindanoa, looks like thatīs the place where Rainer really wants to start his defense... some 250 aircraft (mostly fighters) and no less than 40 units are on the island, mostly massing at Davao and in the North... the biggest problem for the Japanese will be the fact that there are something like a dozen bases I could land on our biggest problem is the fact that radar works now, while sweeps look as silly as they always did which means wearing down the enemyīs airfields is going to be near impossible (or only as long as we accept to lose months of fighter replacements in a week) and therefore a landing could become really bloody because without knocking out the airfields, the enemy is going to knock out parts of our fleets...

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Sub attack near Groot Natoena at 59,83

Japanese Ships
E Tsuga
E Tomozuru
E Hatsukari
E Manazuru

Allied Ships
SS Albacore, hits 16, and is sunk



SS Albacore launches 6 torpedoes at E Tsuga
E Tomozuru fails to find sub and abandons search
E Hatsukari fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hatsukari fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hatsukari fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hatsukari fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hatsukari fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hatsukari attacking submerged sub ....
SS Albacore forced to surface!
E Manazuru firing on surfaced sub ....
E Tomozuru firing on surfaced sub ....
E Manazuru firing on surfaced sub ....
E Tomozuru firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

thatīs what happens when our subs keep on attacking escorts, the subs are damaged or die in droves while it takes 200 torps to sink a fridging escort... guess thatīs sub number SIX being sunk within two or three weeks, with several times more being damaged...

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Sub attack near Portland Roads at 93,133

Japanese Ships
SS I-181, hits 6

Allied Ships
xAP Jalakrishna, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
AK Ganymede
xAP Johanne Justesen
AM Igonish
AM Guysborough


Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


SS I-181 launches 6 torpedoes at xAP Jalakrishna
AM Igonish attacking submerged sub ....
AM Guysborough fails to find sub and abandons search
AM Igonish fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Igonish fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Igonish fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Igonish attacking submerged sub ....
AM Igonish fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

a troop transport is hit, went down... sub takes a hit and several near misses...

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ASW attack near Orchid Island at 86,68

Japanese Ships
E Kari
E Hayabusa

Allied Ships
SS Crevalle, hits 4



SS Crevalle is sighted by escort
Crevalle diving deep ....
E Kari attacking submerged sub ....
E Hayabusa fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Hayabusa fails to find sub and abandons search
E Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kari fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

next sub sent home... 16 sys 27 flt


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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 6000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 24



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 13



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

the enemy is hardly able to keep up the damage at Vinh now and in a couple of weeks weīre going to have two RAF base forces at the base to provide some 3.7 inch guns and four radar sets... weīre then going to also send some fighters now and then, wonīt base them there all the time as Vinh can be bombarded from the Sea and I donīt want to lose precious P-47 to enemy cruisers...

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Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
PV-1 Ventura x 84


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 34

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 12
B-24J Liberator x 16


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 16


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Biak , at 87,110

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 21


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 31


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 48

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 45


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 111

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 29


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 60

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Biak , at 87,110

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses



Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Biak , at 87,110

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 12


No Allied losses



Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Sorong , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Ground combat at 73,116

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6687 troops, 100 guns, 879 vehicles, Assault Value = 592

Defending force 5108 troops, 95 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 85

Allied adjusted assault: 226

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 45 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1347 casualties reported
Squads: 25 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 42 destroyed, 64 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Assaulting units:
1st USMC Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
1st USMC Corps Tank Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
18th Division
16th Div /1


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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23043 troops, 438 guns, 527 vehicles, Assault Value = 769

Defending force 2851 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Allied adjusted assault: 307

Japanese adjusted defense: 67

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
723 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Division
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
40th Infantry Division
I US Amphib Corps
181st USAAF Base Force
228th USN Base Force

Defending units:
15th Garrison Unit
30th JNAF AF Unit
60th JNAF AF Unit

after Ternate fell weīve immediately changed the unitsī targets and this results in their adjusted av dropping from far over 1000 to below 400 but this doesnīt matter anymore as the base was conquered and we only need firepower to destroy the enemy...

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Ground combat at Memboro (63,112)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2150 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 151

Defending force 214 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Allied adjusted assault: 77

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 77 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1



Assaulting units:
503rd Parachute Regiment
3rd USMC Parachute Battalion
1st USMC Parachute Battalion
1st Australian Para Battalion

Defending units:
4th Raiding Rgt /1
3rd Raiding Rgt /1

destroyed the rest of the Japanese paras, marching on Waingapoe...
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Japanese Unit(s) Wiped Out at Memboro by attrition!!!



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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 12/14/2010 2:30:05 PM   
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ASW attack near Chichi-jima at 107,73

Japanese Ships
AM Wa 107
AM Wa 106
xAK Brasil Maru
E Hatsutaka
E Niizaki

Allied Ships
SS Cabrilla



SS Cabrilla is sighted by escort
E Hatsutaka fails to find sub and abandons search
E Niizaki fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Niizaki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 64,77

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 37, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SC Ch 24
E Asagao

Allied Ships
SS Stingray



SS Stingray launches 4 torpedoes at SC Ch 37
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

low value ASW TF, sub gets away with it...

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Sub attack near Daito Shoto at 102,69

Japanese Ships
AO Sata, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Mikazuki
E Omae
AO Kyuko
AO Kyokuto Maru
AO Shiriya
AO Ondo
DD Yuzuki
DD Mochizuki

Allied Ships
SS Aspro



SS Aspro launches 6 torpedoes at AO Sata
Aspro diving deep ....
DD Yuzuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Mochizuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

succesful attack on a real precious target but only one torp hit home... the AO being empty sure has a chance to make it...

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Morning Air attack on Denpasar , at 58,108

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 18



Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 3 destroyed



CAP engaged:
248th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(18 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 9 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes

hmm... the Tojos at 6000ft get the dive on my P-38 at 39000ft... dive? heck, means bad news for the P-38... they were shred... logic of the air bug... ehhh, routine I mean...

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Morning Air attack on Denpasar , at 58,108

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3



Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 18


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
15 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet *

CAP engaged:
248th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 3000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 86 minutes

the fact that the air coordination bug is then followed by the air bug then always gives you really great results that are the 1:1 mirror of what you could expect in real life... you order 75 Lightnings on a sweep and the enemy got 21 Tojos in the air... your P-38 get a tactical advantage (= height), your P-38 outnumber the enemy 3.5:1 (advantage?), your P-38 squadrons are a flying circus with aces in the dozens and the result is your P-38 losing to the Tojos that get the dive while being 33000ft lower than the attacker... the Tojos get a 3:1 kill rate with the dive at 6000ft... you may have noted how it looks like sending 75 P-38 on a sweep... 18,18,23,15... now add in radar and more than 21 Tojos in the air...

and all this perfectly works for BOTH sides, itīs not side related... itīs bugged, the whole design is a serious flaw as it is now... itīs kind of the same flaw as the bounce in WITP that always favoured the side with radar coverage... as it is now, itīs just a strange throw of dices like you have in a board game a la risk... I like risk, but when Iīve played risk 20 years ago I knew what I got, all Armies the same and dice from 1-6... now Iīm told I should have something different but itīs nothing but die rolls all the time when it just doesnīt matter what you do or if you should have an advantage or not, this was just yet another excellent example for this... I wonder how a real life encounter would have looked like between 74 P-38 ordered to sweep a base, piloted by mostly aces and they would meet 21 Tojos in a lower position... but this thought already fails on the first second when the sweep has to pass the coordination bug... eh, flaw... eh, routine...

itīs just a little encounter without any impact on the war but exactly these encounters rob me so much of enjoying the game...




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Morning Air attack on Denpasar , at 58,108

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 18


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet *



silly

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 20
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 22



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 62

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Denpasar , at 58,108

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 23


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
23 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet *



stupid...

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Morning Air attack on Denpasar , at 58,108

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 15


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet *
5 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet *
5 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet *

the most stupid...



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Ground combat at 73,116

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6798 troops, 100 guns, 886 vehicles, Assault Value = 590

Defending force 4149 troops, 86 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 55

Allied adjusted assault: 211

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 211 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4677 casualties reported
Squads: 247 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 411 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 31 (31 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
1st USMC Corps Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
18th Division
16th Div /1

next div is destroyed...

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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23027 troops, 438 guns, 528 vehicles, Assault Value = 769

Defending force 1924 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 28

Allied adjusted assault: 438

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 438 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2578 casualties reported
Squads: 173 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 139 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 2


Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Division
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
40th Infantry Division
I US Amphib Corps
181st USAAF Base Force
228th USN Base Force

Defending units:
15th Garrison Unit
30th JNAF AF Unit
60th JNAF AF Unit

at Ternate weīre making progress faster than expected...

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15th Garrison Unit Wiped Out at Ternate by attrition!!!





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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 12/15/2010 10:37:07 AM   
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Sub attack near Fukue-jima at 99,59

Japanese Ships
xAK Eihuku Maru
xAK Siberia Maru
xAK Kyoto Maru
xAK Mitimei Maru
xAK Ryusei Maru
SC CHa-63
SC CHa-60
SC CHa-52

Allied Ships
SS Bonefish



SS Bonefish launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Eihuku Maru
Bonefish diving deep ....
SC CHa-63 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC CHa-60 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC CHa-52 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-52 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-52 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-52 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-52 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-52 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Bonefish missed the freighter...

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Sub attack near Tanegashima at 103,67

Japanese Ships
TK Otoriyama Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SC Ch 51
SC Ch 15
TK Toshikawa Maru
TK Kyokuyo Maru
TK Rokkosan Maru
TK Jinzan Maru
E Nuwashima
E W-28
E Susuki

Allied Ships
SS Sunfish



SS Sunfish launches 6 torpedoes at TK Otoriyama Maru
Sunfish diving deep ....
E Nuwashima fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Susuki fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-28 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Sunfish hits an empty tanker and sets it on fire...

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Sub attack near Bandjermasin at 62,102

Japanese Ships
DD Kyukaze

Allied Ships
SS Hoe



SS Hoe launches 6 torpedoes
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kyukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Bandjermasin at 62,101

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CL Abukuma
CL Yura
DD Shimakaze
DD Takakaze
DD Arikaze

Allied Ships
SS S-27, hits 1



SS S-27 launches 4 torpedoes at CV Kaga
S-27 bottoming out ....
DD Takakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Takakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Takakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Takakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Takakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Takakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

what did I say? what did I say? at some point Rainer had to run out of luck and would have to pay for running over my subs all the time... first we sink Amagi, now S-27 puts a Mk-10 into Kaga that causes an ammo stroage explosion... the ship isnīt far from Soerabaja and I donīt expect her to be sunk but I sure expect her to be out of the war for a couple of months...






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Sub attack near Bandjermasin at 62,101

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu, Torpedo hits 1
BB Musashi
BB Yamato
CL Kitakami
DD Natsugumo
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Arare
DD Yamagumo

Allied Ships
SS S-27, hits 5



SS S-27 launches 4 torpedoes at CV Hiryu
DD Hibiki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Akatsuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arare attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yamagumo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Arare attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

as if hitting Kaga wouldnīt be enough, S-27 also attacks CV Hiryu that is passing along in another TF... a single Mk-10 hits home and S-27 gets away with a couple of near misses, retiring to Darwin now with 12 sys damage... very well done! the last four attacks on enemy carriers all were succesfull, two in a row on Amagi that sunk her and now these two attacks on Kaga and Hiryu... means KBīs aircraft number is down by some 200 aircraft for the moment... probably strenght now around 800 carrier based ac as Rainer also seems to use all his available carriers in one spot, just as we do...

as both damaged carriers are expected to head straight back to Soerabaja weīve ordered halve a dozen subs in the area into intercept position between KBīs location now and Soerabaja... another two torps hitting one of the carriers could knock it out... lesson today: you should not overstretch your luck because at some point, youīre just going to run out of it...







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Morning Air attack on Ternate , at 78,102

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 15



Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 48


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 7 destroyed




CAP engaged:
VMF-111 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 12 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
VMF-113 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 10 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
VMF-311 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 11 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36800 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes

hmm... there is radar at Ternate but seemed not to have picked up something, nevertheless we get more or less all our fighters into the air (is radar now always working even though the raid seems not to be spotted - if spotted, there should be a "raid detected by radar" message during the replay)... the outcome here is a radar - dive - massacre session... all Zeroes were shot down or damaged for no Corsair lost... 6000ft did not work at all for the Zekes...

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Morning Air attack on Ternate , at 78,102

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 11



Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 45


Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 6 destroyed




CAP engaged:
VMF-111 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
VMF-311 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36800 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
VMF-113 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

the Zekes are followed by a dozen Georges at 6000ft and the Georges suffer the same faith as the Zekes... radar - dive - massacre session... two dozen enemy fighters shot down for not a single loss within the fighters on Cap... out of 54 fighters at Ternate we had 52 operational and even without radar actually DETECTING the raid there were 48 fighters in the air to meet the Zekes and after having 3 or 4 damaged there were still 45 in the air to meet the Georges... and all this with a setting of 40% Cap and 30% rest... soo...... itīs too early to make a claim but if I only look at this turn then I would say land based radar was fixed broken... it now works... yeah, according to these two engagements above it now even works if it HASNīT detected something... only a suspicion from this turn, I sure am going to keep an eye on this... it nevertheless is totally strange...

if radar now always detects something while it actually failed then this would be just as off as the broken land based radar before the patch...



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9



Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 4 destroyed




CAP engaged:
343rd FG/11th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 37000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
51st FG/16th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 37000
Raid is overhead
23rd FG/75th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 37000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
80th FG/459th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 37000
Raid is overhead

we also sent some LRCAP to Vinh today, coming from Saigon...

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Morning Air attack on Ternate , at 78,102

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 18
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 22



Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 45


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 7 destroyed
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 10 destroyed, 1 damaged


Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VMF-111 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 14 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VMF-311 with F4U-1A Corsair (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36800 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VMF-113 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes

in this case, the raid actually was detected by radar (also got the message during the replay) and if you look at the number of Corsairs then itīs the same as above when the strikes WERENīT detected... paranoia? More Zekes were shot down as well as a good number of Lillies... Rainer obviously didnīt expect my Corsairs at the base, nothing but luck for us here, we just moved them in...

the result of this turn with two dozen enemy fighters shot down for not a single Corsair lost is something I leave to the audience to decide if thatīs a good or bad outcome...



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 19
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 22



Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 17


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 63

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
343rd FG/11th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 37000 , scrambling fighters to 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes
51st FG/16th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 37000 , scrambling fighters to 40000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes
23rd FG/75th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 37000 , scrambling fighters to 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes
80th FG/459th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 37000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes

holy crap, whatīs going on here? I thought the IJAAF would run into a disaster but neither pre bombing the fighters attacked the bombers nor after the bomb run... nothing happened...

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Morning Air attack on Babo , at 83,111

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 10
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-24J Liberator x 44
P-40K Warhawk x 11


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Babo , at 83,111

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 11


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manokwari , at 85,109

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 30
B-24J Liberator x 3


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manokwari , at 85,109

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Biak , at 87,110

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 23


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 57

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manokwari , at 85,109

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Biak , at 87,110

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Biak , at 87,110

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb


in total an excellent day for our airforce... if the P-47 would have done something against the enemy medium bombers above Vinh we could have shot down a hundred enemy ac for nearly no loss on our side... with over 60 enemies downed we canīt complain though...




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Ground combat at 73,116

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6849 troops, 100 guns, 886 vehicles, Assault Value = 592

Defending force 15 troops, 48 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 370

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 370 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Assaulting units:
1st USMC Tank Battalion
1st USMC Corps Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
16th Div /1






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Status: offline 		In the successful intercepts the time to reach interception was anywhere from 1 minute to 30 minutes. In the final unsuccessful intercept the P-47s took an hour to get to interception. Maybe that's why the P-47s didn't intercept - they didn't get to the bombers on time.

Which raises the question, why did it take the P-47s an hour to reach the last medium bomber attack area?

It only took the P-47s 1 minute to intercept the Zeros at the same location. But that occured before the medium bomber attack.

Odd....

Maybe the P-47s went back to base to refuel...



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ORIGINAL: ADB123

In the successful intercepts the time to reach interception was anywhere from 1 minute to 30 minutes. In the final unsuccessful intercept the P-47s took an hour to get to interception. Maybe that's why the P-47s didn't intercept - they didn't get to the bombers on time.

Which raises the question, why did it take the P-47s an hour to reach the last medium bomber attack area?

It only took the P-47s 1 minute to intercept the Zeros at the same location. But that occured before the medium bomber attack.

Odd....

Maybe the P-47s went back to base to refuel...





this should change when weīve got radar at Vinh but for now we have to concentrate our radar at Hanoi... at least as long until Iīm sure that one radar set at a base is enough to have all fighters on Cap even if it doesnīt detect anything...

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Sub attack near Bandjermasin at 61,102

Japanese Ships
DD Kuroshio
CA Ashigara
CA Myoko
CL Ninaru
CL Teshio
CL Noshiro
CL Agano
DD Amatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Tanikaze
DD Hagikaze
DD Nowaki
DD Hamakaze

Allied Ships
SS Hoe, hits 7



SS Hoe launches 6 torpedoes at DD Kuroshio
Hoe bottoming out ....
DD Tanikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hagikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Nowaki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hamakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hamakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hamakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hamakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hamakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hamakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

all available subs in the area were ordered to intercept KB... SS Hoe starts off with an attack on one of the escorting DD that is missed and Hoe takes several near misses in return...

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ASW attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 62,78

Japanese Ships
PB Ryuto Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
TK Mirii Maru
TK Toan Maru
TK Ogura Maru #3
PB Muroran Maru

Allied Ships
SS Sculpin



SS Sculpin launches 4 torpedoes at PB Ryuto Maru
Sculpin diving deep ....
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Muroran Maru attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

a shame to sink a PB if you could also hit some tankers...

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ASW attack near Bandjermasin at 61,102

Japanese Ships
DD Nagatsuki
DD Kisaragi
DD Kikuzuki

Allied Ships
SS Hoe, hits 6



SS Hoe is located by DD Nagatsuki
Hoe bottoming out ....
DD Nagatsuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Nagatsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kikuzuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Nagatsuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kikuzuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Hoe tries again but is driven off taking more hits... retiring with 34 sys 15 flt...

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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 6000 feet *



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 21



No Japanese losses



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 12



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 6000 feet *

quite amazing that the enemy shows up already again after our LRCAP yesterday that unfortunately missed the bombers...


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Memboro at 63,112

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 7



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
LCT-474, Shell hits 4
LCT-165, Shell hits 2


Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A6M3a Zero bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

using our proven LCT TFs to bring troops to the front and this one is attacked by some Zekes... all bombs missed and the 20mm cannon hits did no damage at all as was the same in WITP...

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Afternoon Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 49


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 46


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb




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Ground combat at 73,116

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6933 troops, 100 guns, 890 vehicles, Assault Value = 594

Defending force 0 troops, 48 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 372

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 372 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 65 (65 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1



Assaulting units:
1st USMC Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st USMC Corps Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade

Defending units:
16th Div /1

only guns left here, means everything else seems to have been flown out...



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