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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 2/25/2011 12:26:16 PM   
castor troy


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Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 25, 44
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 20
F6F-3 Hellcat x 156


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
16 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x Corsair II sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x Corsair II sweeping at 15000 feet *

I hate it... I really hate this stupidity!!!

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 30


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 50


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *

hundreds of fighters are sent from our fighters to escort a strike against some merchants... 256 show up first because they all missed the bombers coming from the same carriers... these routines are just silly... noone can seriously think that this would be anywhere realistic, neither the fact that the fighters constantly fail to escort anything (no matter which alt, it just means nothing) nor the fact that itīs even sillier how the strikes look like... yeah, hundreds of fighters escorted a dozen bombers in real life... SURE!


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Morning Air attack on Kudat , at 69,86

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 39,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 3



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 38500 feet *



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Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 10



Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 6
Liberator B.III x 15
Liberator B.VI x 30
B-24D1 Liberator x 74
B-29-1 Superfort x 78


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.III: 1 damaged



Refinery hits 39
Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 28

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-311 Hikotai with A6M3a Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes

we return to Port Arthur and now also target the refineries while the rest of the bombers keeps the airfield in wrecked state... the couple of Zeroes are LRCAP...


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Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 7



Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 6


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 4 damaged



Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-311 Hikotai with A6M3a Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9


No Allied losses



Refinery hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 7


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged



Refinery hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 3


No Allied losses



Refinery hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 4


No Allied losses




Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 60
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 31


Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 15, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Jinju Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
E W-28, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
SC Ch 14, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
SC Ch 51
TK Noshiro Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Rokkosan Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Peking Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Kyokuyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
15 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring SC Ch 15
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Jinju Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring E W-28
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring SC Ch 14
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Noshiro Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Peking Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Kyokuyo Maru

so hereīs the strike on the enemy tanker convoy... the strike routine decided that itīs worth it to send 316 fighters with 31 bombers, a 10:1 ratio... stupid or silly? I let you decide... in WITP you could prevent this by settng the fighter squdrons to 80% Cap or so, in AE now that fatigue skyrockets when you set your Cap to more than 40% this is no longer possible and you can also not tell them to mount reasonable strikes so you just gotta live with it... your fighters fly out in ridicoulos numbers while your carriers can end up being attacked by the enemy with only a meager cover compared to what would be available...

so either you give the player the chance to give order what the aircraft should do or if the player canīt influence it (of course I can stand down everything - now that would be a smart idea) then provide a better working routine... not asking for a perfect result, but thatīs not even acceptable like it is now... Rainer has already suffered for it when nearly 50% of his fighters escorted 9 bombers to attack a couple of barges while bombs from my LBA rained down on his carriers and it can happen to everyone everytime... and setting Cap to 80% is not an option at all because you end up with insane fatigue after two days...

the reason for this strike is that my fleet has set course to bring lots of troops to Kudat that was taken by my paras, combat units will then march to Jesselton and take the place against meager opposition... Jesselton will be built up to level 9 and USN long range bombers will rule the South China Sea from Jesselton and Saigon... of course there will still be ships slipping through but if bigger convoys are spotted and donīt get attacked by the long range bombers then we can still do what we are doing today, sending out the carriers as they can reach every spot in the South China Sea within two days so nothing is save for the enemy... the convoys bringing in troops are in the Tawi Tawi area at the moment, KB is still sitting at Manila, expected to bail out and head North (North East) as my carrier fleet is pretty close by and absolutely superior to KB...






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Morning Air attack on Kudat , at 69,86

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 42,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 26



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
26 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 38500 feet *

attempt to catch my LRCAP...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes


Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 100


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x Corsair II sweeping at 15000 feet *

what is stupid in the morning stays as stupid in the afternoon... yeah, it is working very well indeed... and no critism accepted...


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 70


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *
10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 10


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet *



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 20
TBF-1 Avenger x 18


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
E W-28, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
E Susuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Noshiro Maru, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring E W-28
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Noshiro Maru

316 fighters escorted 31 bombers in the morning, 210 escorted 18 bombers in the afternoon... both times a 10+:1 ratio... the routine is so silly to send more than 500 fighters to attack this task force but only sends 39 bombers, while there are still a dozen ships left... thatīs how itīs done... and then you lose 8 Hellcats to ops...


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Ground combat at Samarinda (65,96)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 14543 troops, 236 guns, 439 vehicles, Assault Value = 600

Defending force 4389 troops, 31 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 67

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 340

Japanese adjusted defense: 14

Allied assault odds: 24 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Samarinda !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1444 casualties reported
Squads: 58 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 125 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 7


Allied ground losses:
99 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
5th Australian Division
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade
VII US Amphib Force
2nd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
24th Ind.Mixed Brigade
15th Naval Guard Unit
31st JAAF AF Bn
3rd Shipping Engineer Regiment
22nd JAAF AF Bn
3rd Fleet
63rd JNAF AF Unit /1


the troops that took Balikpapan shock attack across the river and take Samarinda on the first attempt...



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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 2/25/2011 12:27:42 PM   
castor troy


Posts: 14330
Joined: 8/23/2004
From: Austria
Status: offline 		result of sending 500+ fighters to escort 49 bombers to an undefended target is 8 fighters lost to ops... now someone could argue the routine is smart and is modelling history very well because the tankers could have been misidentified with carriers... ok, how smart is the routine then in sending 49 instead of 800 bombers? Besides that, there were more than a dozen messages shown of tankers identified... no matter how far you go with abstractions, this fighter/bomber ratio is totally off... the fact that 80% of the bombers fail to escort and sweep instead is something I donīt even comment anymore, the way the game is now this can be even seen as ADVANTAGE! IMO every Admiral would be court martialed for sending 500+ fighters with 49 bombers when on the same time his fleet is in high danger of being attacked by enemy forces.




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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 2/25/2011 12:55:45 PM   
castor troy


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Joined: 8/23/2004
From: Austria
Status: offline 		Now fasten your seat belts, the show is really starting now! Insane turn and absolutely unexpected to me!


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 26, 44
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Morning Air attack on Kudat , at 69,86

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 42,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 26



Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 12
F6F-3 Hellcat x 126


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hellcat I: 2 destroyed



CAP engaged:
No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 34000 and 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
VC(F)-65 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
VC(F)-5 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 37000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
VRF-6F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 32000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes

this wasnīt a real surprise as also yesterday we saw a sweep to Kudat... this turn one of my CVE TFs was sitting there covering two SAG and my big amphibious TF (made up by APA and LST) unloading troops there... despite being on a ceiling sweep the Zekes had a bad day ending up against all those Hellcats...

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Morning Air attack on Kudat , at 69,86

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 41,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 60 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 3



Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 115


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed




CAP engaged:
VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 66 minutes
VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38500 and 39500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 59 minutes
VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 37500 and 39500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 35500 and 39500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 42500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38500 and 39500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
VC(F)-5 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 39500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 37500 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes
VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 40500 and 41500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 77 minutes
VRF-6F with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 37500 and 41500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38500 and 41500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 68 minutes
No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38500 and 39500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes
VC(F)-65 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38500 and 42500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes

a lost fragment of the main sweep, nothing new I would say...

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during the search phase our carrier based Helldivers and the floatplanes from the battlewaggons and cruisers picked up the enemy closing in with the whole fleet! Droves of search aircraft were shot down during the search phase (guess weīve lost more than two dozen aircraft over the enemy fleet during the search phase ). When the enemy was picked up the carriers were reported being six hexes from our carriers and this meant perfect strike range as the Helldivers would attack with one 1000lb bomb plus two 250lb bombs while the TBF and TBM would attack with torps (most of the bombers were set to carry torps). Our carriers were set to 0 react and staid in place and to my total surprise the enemy carriers all reacted one hex to then end up 5 hexes away from my carriers! Woohoo, this is going to be the endgame Iīve thought...

And the Allied carrier fleet is the one to strike first!


Morning Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 71,79
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 52 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 111
A6M5b Zero x 31



Allied aircraft
Barracuda II x 13
Corsair II x 31
F6F-3 Hellcat x 350
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 367
TBF-1 Avenger x 296
TBM-1C Avenger x 62

holy crap, our carriers launch a combined mega strike of no less than 1119 aircraft, this time the fighter/bomber ratio being 1:2. Weīve got four CV TFs plus one CVE TF in the hex and all seem to have launched their aircraft at once, this is the biggest carrier strike Iīve ever seen. All time record in this PBEM was the 500+ strike from KB in our first carrier engagement that knocked out a CV, halve a dozen CVE plus several BB 500 miles North West of Port Moresby. But this strike tops everything. And the first thing to notice was clear sky over the target, this is going to be a whipeout, there canīt be anything that stops my aircraft from whiping the floor with the enemy, something I was sure about before the first aircraft was shot down. This has to be all of KB but we only meet 142 enemy fighters on Cap. This canīt go wrong!

As a sidenote, we of course had lots of "bombers unable to locate target" etc. messages but that didnīt really matter at all when such a strike shows up over the target.




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Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 8 destroyed
A6M5b Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Barracuda II: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Corsair II: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 21 destroyed
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 5 destroyed, 25 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 9 destroyed, 24 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

a fierce fight over KB starts and despite having three times more fighters on escort than the enemy got on Cap, the Hellcats were pretty much shot up as they could not hold their own against the enemy Zekes getting the never ending dive (this again just made me wonder how 140 Zekes could get the dive against 350 Hellcats for the whole duration of the engagement). Not a single message of a Hellcat diving on a Zeke showed up, not even one. But all this of course didnīt count, even if we would have lost twice the number of fighters. Outnumbering the Cap nearly 3:1 also didnīt really help in keeping the enemy from attacking the bombers but only two dozen were shot down in the end. Then it was time to watch the bombers close in on the enemy carrier fleet... lean back and watch the massacre was my thought at this stage...


Japanese Ships
CVE Shinyo, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CVL Nisshin, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
CV Unryu, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
CVL Mizuho, Bomb hits 13, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Junyo, Bomb hits 17, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CV Taiho, Bomb hits 33, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CVL Ryuho, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
CVL Zuiho, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Nowaki, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Yubari, Bomb hits 12, and is sunk
DD Hatsushima, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Samidare, Bomb hits 11, and is sunk
DD Tadeshiwa, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
CVL Chiyoda, Bomb hits 15, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Okinami, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
DD Hayanami, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hagikaze, Bomb hits 13, and is sunk
DD Aogumo, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
DD Katsutade, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Asashimo
CL Abukuma, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Kinu
DD Kiyonami

we were facing Cap from 20 enemy carriers of all classes so when looking at what was attacked by this mega strike it appears to have been two enemy carrier TFs, the lower value ones I would say, as there were also the Zuikaku, Shokaku with other fleet carriers in the hex. Taking out the Taiho of course was a big prize, despite my auto sig. Bomb after bomb slammed into the enemy ships, the Helldivers are doing the job here, the torpedo bombers are insanly... B A D... 12 torpedo hits in the end out of 272 torpedoes dropped... 4.41% hit rate is not impressing, especially when you see dozens of torpedoes missing ships that already have suffered so many 1000lb bombs that theyīre nothing else than floating wrecks. This again reminds me about how uber Japanese torpedo attacks are compared to US ones, the reason for it is beyond me, perhaps the MK13 has got so terrible stats compared to the Japanese 18 inch torp. All those torp bombers carrying torps had a torp skill of 70 and Iīm sure pilotsīs skill are treated the same for both sides. So whatīs the deal with US torp attacks? After this first strike Iīve thought it wouldnīt really matter anymore in this game as this event here already decided the fate of the enemy IMO, for future campaigns Iīm strictly using 80% of my torpedo bombers for attacks with bombs as they tend to hit far more carrying bombs. And one of the big steps forward compared to WITP is the fact that bombs now also really harm enemy BB, even if they donīt penetrate the BBīs armor, enough bomb hits is going to rack up sys quickly, sys together with fire is a killer, even with low flt damage.

Needless to say that at this point I was already cheering in front of my PC (with the girl friend shaking head behind me on the sofa )...





Aircraft Attacking:
11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
17 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
16 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
14 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
19 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
15 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
16 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
15 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
14 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
19 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
11 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
9 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
9 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
9 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
11 x Barracuda II launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
9 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
8 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
7 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
4 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
7 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
7 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
12 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
9 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
23 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
12 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
13 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
9 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
12 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
15 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
14 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
12 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M5b Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
Junyo-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Ryuho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 3 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 2 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Unryu-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
Shinyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
S-603 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Nisshin
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Junyo
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Ryuho
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Taiho
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Zuiho
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Unryu
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Okinami
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Mizuho
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Japanese PG
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Aogumo
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Samidare
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Hagikaze
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Shinyo
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Nowaki
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Chiyoda
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Abukuma
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Katsutade
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Yubari
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Hayanami
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Tadeshiwa

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 71,79

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 54 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 47
A6M5b Zero x 11



Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 12
F6F-3 Hellcat x 76
TBF-1 Avenger x 34
TBM-1C Avenger x 4


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Katsutade, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
DD Nowaki, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM-1C Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
5 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
Ryujo-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
Junyo-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
Unryu-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
Shinyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
S-603 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Katsutade
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Nowaki

the 350 Hellcats of the first wave were only able to reduce the Cap by around 50% (and this only with Zekes running out of fuel, ammo or having technical breakdowns) so the next wave to show up still encountered 58 enemy fighters but thatīs nothing in terms of the numbers weīre speaking at this stage of the war... the Hellcats did better this time, the dive at least ended for the Zekes at some point to end in a pretty even matched fight in the end... we attacked the same carrier TFs again but fail to locate any carriers as theyīve all went down already so the bombers attacked two DDs an sink them...

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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 79
P-38J Lightning x 67
P-51B Mustang x 13
PV-1 Ventura x 48


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 2 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 30
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 75

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

airfield attack? So whereīs KBīs counterstrike?

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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 20
PV-1 Ventura x 12


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-51B Mustang x 13
PV-1 Ventura x 12


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 5th JNAF Coy , at 82,82 (Legaspi)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 100


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
375 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 5 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 5th JNAF Coy , at 82,82 (Legaspi)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 44


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 12
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 9
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 10


No Allied losses



Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Pontianak , at 56,90

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 58


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57-II Topsy: 6 destroyed on ground




Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 120

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Pontianak , at 56,90

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57-II Topsy: 1 destroyed on ground




Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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strike after strike was launched from my airfields against enemy land targets and still no sign of KBīs bombers and the hundreds of enemy fighters that still have to be somewhere... or have they all been destroyed aboard the enemyīs carriers?

to be continued as I have to head out now...

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 2/25/2011 4:52:49 PM   
anarchyintheuk

 

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Status: offline 		All I can say is "Wow!" both to the initial strike size and the subsequent arse kicking.

I wonder if he fubared his orders.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 2/25/2011 6:02:35 PM   
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the torpedo bombers are insanly... B A D... 12 torpedo hits in the end out of 272 torpedoes dropped... 4.41% hit rate is not impressing, especially when you see dozens of torpedoes missing ships that already have suffered so many 1000lb bombs that theyīre nothing else than floating wrecks. This again reminds me about how uber Japanese torpedo attacks are compared to US ones, the reason for it is beyond me, perhaps the MK13 has got so terrible stats compared to the Japanese 18 inch torp. All those torp bombers carrying torps had a torp skill of 70 and Iīm sure pilotsīs skill are treated the same for both sides. So whatīs the deal with US torp attacks?


Well, looking at the stats you've got differences in range (6000ft for the Mk. 13 vs 2000ft for the Type 91), accuracy (33 / 43) and dud rate (50 / 10; however, by 1944 the 50 will have been modified down to 10).

So, it's presumably either range or accuracy. I don't know what the numbers would have looked like if you'd been carrying T-91s. I do wonder whether the longer range on the Mk. 13 leads to it being dropped earlier (trading a lower hit rate for presumably lower flak losses?) but it's nothing more than a guess.

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ORIGINAL: kfsgo

quote:

the torpedo bombers are insanly... B A D... 12 torpedo hits in the end out of 272 torpedoes dropped... 4.41% hit rate is not impressing, especially when you see dozens of torpedoes missing ships that already have suffered so many 1000lb bombs that theyīre nothing else than floating wrecks. This again reminds me about how uber Japanese torpedo attacks are compared to US ones, the reason for it is beyond me, perhaps the MK13 has got so terrible stats compared to the Japanese 18 inch torp. All those torp bombers carrying torps had a torp skill of 70 and Iīm sure pilotsīs skill are treated the same for both sides. So whatīs the deal with US torp attacks?


Well, looking at the stats you've got differences in range (6000ft for the Mk. 13 vs 2000ft for the Type 91), accuracy (33 / 43) and dud rate (50 / 10; however, by 1944 the 50 will have been modified down to 10).

So, it's presumably either range or accuracy. I don't know what the numbers would have looked like if you'd been carrying T-91s. I do wonder whether the longer range on the Mk. 13 leads to it being dropped earlier (trading a lower hit rate for presumably lower flak losses?) but it's nothing more than a guess.



thanks for the info, guess itīs the accuracy then. Donīt notice any less flak against the torpedo bombers so it doesnīt seem the torps are dropped at three times the range the IJN drops theirs, though flak doesnīt seem to exist anyway. Even when we field the same skilled pilots we hardly get 25% of the hits the IJN land and carrier based super torpedo bombers achieve, no matter what date in the war.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 2/27/2011 3:34:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		had no time lately to update the AAR but here we go again... here comes the IJN counterstrike...


Morning Air attack on TF, near Balabac at 69,84

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 66 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 122
A6M5b Zero x 52
B6N1 Jill x 52
B6N2 Jill x 76
D4Y1 Judy x 53
D4Y2 Judy x 13



Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 47
F6F-3 Hellcat x 519





Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 6 destroyed
B6N1 Jill: 16 destroyed, 14 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 24 destroyed, 14 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 21 destroyed, 12 damaged
D4Y2 Judy: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 4 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed


KB sends a meager strike against our carrier fleet but due to the fact that we didnīt expect the enemy to show up with his carriers we had a not so great Cap/escort ratio as we had the Cap ratio too low for our needs and at least two times too many Hellcats were escorting our main strike that only had to face 150 enemy fighters on Cap... seeing this strike, 66 min pre warning time and still 566 available fighters on Cap I was pretty confident though... clear sky was bad news though... I donīt know if the enemy failed to escort again and ended up on a ceiling sweep, I guess so because our fighters suffered initially from diving Zekes ... even though we outnumbered the enemy Cap 3:1 with our escorts, no a single Hellcat had the dive... thank god this was over quite soon, as was the fight against the enemy escorts and our fighters turned to attack the bombers... what really has been frightening during the replay was the fact that we started with only a couple of dozens fighters and the rest was only trickling in small packages of four fighters now and then... in total the replay never showed more than 150 fighters actually fighting vs the enemy ... that was quite shocking and my face turned into as my 550+ fighters werenīt able to do much more than the enemyīs 150 on Cap despite having a 66 minute pre warning time... god damn, what were these fighters doing? my presentiment proved to become true when the replay switched over to bombing runs and exactly one hundred bombers were dropping their torpedoes and bombs... 100 enemy bombers in clear sky would mean bad news I thought...


Allied Ships
CVE Tulagi, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
CVE Manila Bay, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Anzio
CVE Natoma Bay
CVE Suwannee, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CV Yorktown
CV Illustrious
CVL Bataan
CV Miami
CV Boston
CVE Hoggatt Bay
CVE Gambier Bay
CVE Fanshaw Bay
CVE Ranee, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CVE Nehenta Bay, Torpedo hits 1
CVE Battler, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
BB Iowa, Bomb hits 1
CVE Kasaan Bay, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
CVE Santee, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CVL San Jacinto, Torpedo hits 2 (one FOW)


it took quite some painful minutes to watch this attack and even though also one of our fleet carrier TFs shows up here, around 85% of the bombers were attacking our slow CVEs... British CVE Battler was sunk with quite some Corsairs aboad while the other CVE that were hit are all still afloat... the CVE TF had a flak value of 5000+ but that didnīt mean much, the CV TFs got flak values around 12000 but I guess they also would be pretty much helpless if they would be targetted by lots of bombers, their higher speed probably would be more of an advantage over the CVE TFs than bristling with flak guns... if thatīs the main strike then this is going to be a major victory for the USN but the day has just yet started... one thing is clear already, our Cap performance is going to be disappointing... the best thing against torpedo bombers is them attacking from bad directions, if the ships show their broadsides then theyīre usually hit though...


Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
6 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
2 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
7 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
1 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
8 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
1 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 26000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 26000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
1 x B6N1 Jill bombing from 26000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
1 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 26000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
3 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
3 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
9 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
5 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
4 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
2 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
VF-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 62 minutes
VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-42 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-8 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-9 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 62 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-10 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
VF-11 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-14 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-16 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 59 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-18 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
VF-71 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-22 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
VF-23 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 57 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-24 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 57 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-25 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-26 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
VF-27 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes
VF-28 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
VF-29 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Tulagi
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Santee





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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 2/27/2011 3:47:38 PM   
castor troy


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Status: offline 		Morning Air attack on TF, near Kudat at 69,86

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 66 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 42
B6N1 Jill x 25
D4Y2 Judy x 13



Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 114





then the enemy sends a strike to attack our CVE TF covering the amphib TFs at Kudat unloading the troops there... splitting up the enemyīs strikes of course offers a big advantage and what is coming in here can be handled by our Cap that gets the dive from the first until the last moment in this engagement... first the escort were shred and then the Hellcats turned onto the bombers to take them out until the last enemy aircraft... now that was impressing...

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 14 destroyed
B6N1 Jill: 15 destroyed
D4Y2 Judy: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed



CAP engaged:
VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 30000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 37500 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 62 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-5 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 2 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 37500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38800 and 41500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 57 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-6F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 41500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 59 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 41500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 29000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-65 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kudat at 69,86

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 66 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 11
B6N2 Jill x 6



Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 4
F6F-3 Hellcat x 86


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 4 destroyed




CAP engaged:
VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-5 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 37500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 67 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-65 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-6F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers

the IJN really isnīt lucky with strike coordination today, probably too many high value targets screwed it up, even though the enemy nearly exclusively tried to attack our CVE TFs which are the easiest ones to attack so that shouldnīt be called bad luck... the CVE and amphib TFs were the preferred targets in the past for the enemy so he probably wonīt complain about the targetting, the outcome of course already is a disaster this time... also this small strike is completely whiped out...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 71,79

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 27
A6M5b Zero x 4



Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 18


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 6 destroyed



CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M5b Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Junyo-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Unryu-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
Shinyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

enemy Cap was reduced by our main strike but the 380 escorting fighters werenīt able to completely knock out the 150 defending fighters so the squadrons that followed unescorted were shred... no single engined aircraft got any effect in terms of defensive fire of their rear gunner, no matter if Japanese or Allied, you could also mod these gun mounts out and increase the top speed of the bombers a bit, the gun mounts just got no effect, not even against Japanese paper fighters...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 71,79

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 20
A6M5b Zero x 2



Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Avenger II: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Avenger II launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo

CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead
261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
Junyo-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 4000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Unryu-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Raid is overhead
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead


this strike came in alone too with four Brit Avengers making it through Cap when the launched their torps against an already sunk target... thatīs it for the morning and it already turns out to become a major Allied victory, it seems to be the decisive battle but itīs going to be a decisive Japanese defeat...



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Status: offline 		Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 71,79

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 52 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 42
A6M5b Zero x 22



Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 13
F6F-3 Hellcat x 271
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 291
TBF-1 Avenger x 197
TBM-1C Avenger x 44



Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 8 destroyed
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 22 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed, 21 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged




here we go with the first afternoon strike, the Allied are attacking first again... while around 400 aircraft less than our mega strike in the morning, we again launch a massive strike against at least two enemy carrier task forces... Cap over the enemy was laughable at that point but while outnumbered 5:1 in fighters, the enemy again had the never ending dive and took out some two dozen Hellcats plus a dozen of bombers for only 5 Zekes lost... we clearly win in numbers but in 1:1 performance the Japanese outperform us at least 3:1 which is more than amazing considering vastly superior material on our side plus 70 skilled pilots (the enemy probably still fields 50% of the elite fighter pilots he started the war with which could explain the performance)... Cap over KB wasnīt a factor at this point, bad weather was reported though which seems the only thing hindering our attack runs... with over 500 bombers attacking and a massive blow in the morning what could go wrong at this stage...

Japanese Ships
CVE Chuyo, Bomb hits 10, heavy fires
CVE Kaiyo, Bomb hits 3, on fire
CVE Taiyo, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Agano, Bomb hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hatsuharu
CL Noshiro, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
DD Nenohi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CVE Unyo, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires
CVE Hosho, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Akizuki
DD Hatsuzuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Yahagi, Bomb hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Fujinami, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
DD Susuzuki
CL Ninaru
CL Tokachi, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Teruzuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Tamanami
DD Onami, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Teshio, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Suzunami, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

the Helldivers were again doing the work, 250 highly skilled torpedo bombers (some bombing though) manage to achieve 3 laughable torp hits on already sinking ships... due to the weather and the fact that more than one third of the bombers were attacking enemy destroyers for whatever reason it wasnīt as much a massacre as in the morning but I expect another 2 CV and 4 CVE to be lost with more ships being damaged... as it stands now, it is going to turn out to be a major Japanese disaster... a pity we miss to catch the Zuikaku and her sister Shokaku TF with one of the main strikes...


Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
17 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
6 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
15 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
7 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet
17 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
4 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet
7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
12 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
20 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
13 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
18 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
6 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
18 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
6 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
12 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
5 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
9 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet
5 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet
10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
2 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet
8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet
7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
16 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet
11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet
11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
12 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
19 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
2 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet
16 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
17 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
Unryu-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Hiryu
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Soryu
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Taiyo
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Agano
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Hosho
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Fujinami
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Japanese CVL
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Unyo
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Tokachi
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Noshiro
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Kaiyo
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Chuyo
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Yahagi


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 71,79

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 54 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 19
A6M5b Zero x 11



Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 9
F6F-3 Hellcat x 77
TBF-1 Avenger x 21
TBM-1C Avenger x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hatsuzuki, on fire
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Agano, and is sunk
DD Hatsuharu



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x TBM-1C Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
1 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M5b Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 59 minutes
Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
Unryu-1 with A6M5b Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Japanese CVL
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Soryu
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Hiryu


a small follow on strike completes the work on CVL Ryujo while Hiryu and Soryu were in sinking condition anyway... in bombing mode the TBF/TBM are far better than attacking with torps as this attack proves again, I am going to use halve of them with bombs in future, I doubt we will have a lot of anti shipping strikes in this game in future though...



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so hereīs the rest of the carrier clash, itīs time for the IJNīs final counter strike in the afternoon...

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kudat at 69,86

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 66 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 24
A6M5b Zero x 27
B6N1 Jill x 34
B6N2 Jill x 33



Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 11
F6F-3 Hellcat x 114





Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 5 destroyed
A6M5b Zero: 2 destroyed
B6N1 Jill: 16 destroyed, 2 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 17 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hellcat I: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Barnes
CVE Kalinin Bay
CVE Begum



Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
2 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 58 minutes
VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-65 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 59 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-5 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-6F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (2 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers

just like in the morning, parts of KBīs strike aircraft attack our CVE TF at Kudat and just like in the morning, the 125 fighters there perform better than the hundreds of fighters of our main CV fleet further North... the incoming strike is completely shot up, never ending dive against the escorts and all but three bombers shot down by the Cap... the CVEīs Cap at Kudat nearly performed WITP like, while the Cap over the main fleet acted AE like... engagements in both hexes seem reasonable to me while the one like this one above is pretty near the edge... what I found off was the absolutely inability of 70 torp skilled USN torpedo bombers to achieve torp hits on ships in sinking condition and the fact that 150 Zekes get the never ending dive against 2.5 times more Hellcats on escort with the Hellcats losing 5:1... this isnīt reasonable to me, while explainable in the game: the stupid never ending dive... in total, I would rate the whole carrier engagement as playing out far better than WITP though, so I shouldnīt complain about the whole in this case... in WITP, I guess my Cap would have been 100% bullet prove, which is as stupid (or even more) than the never ending dive...


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kudat at 69,86

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 66 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 11
B6N2 Jill x 24



Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 4
F6F-3 Hellcat x 85


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 5 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 14 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed



CAP engaged:
No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-65 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 64 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-5 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 65 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-6F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers

another wave attacking the CVEs at Kudat but the Cap is doing itīs job again...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Balabac at 69,84

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 66 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 30
A6M5b Zero x 11
B6N1 Jill x 15
B6N2 Jill x 37
D4Y1 Judy x 14



Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 21
F6F-3 Hellcat x 441


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 8 destroyed
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed
B6N1 Jill: 8 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 22 destroyed
D4Y1 Judy: 7 destroyed




CAP engaged:
No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA with Corsair II (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes
20 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 58 minutes
20 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes
20 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-42 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes
20 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-8 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
23 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-9 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-10 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
22 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-11 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-14 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-16 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes
20 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-18 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 58 minutes
22 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-71 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
19 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-22 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-23 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-24 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-25 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-26 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-27 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 1 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
VF-28 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 29000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers


and to end this insane turn, hereīs the last wave that attacks our main fleet North of Kudat... the strike gets completely whiped out as the fighter coordination immediately sent more fighters towards the bombers than there were bombers to shoot down...

what a turn...




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Status: offline 		so letīs have a look at what happened today, together with the info I received from Rainer the "why" this happened is pretty clear. Like he has tried earlier, he wanted to take advantage of the Japanese 8 hex strike ability to move in, launch a strike, clobber our CVE or amphib fleet while staying 1 hex outside of our carrier fleetīs strike range... but three things apparently went wrong this time:

a) while I always staid one hex off the CVE and amphib fleet with all the fleet carriers, this time I had two hex distance as I didnīt fear any LBA strikes that could only aim at the "invasion hex" (without using patrol aircraft to spot the CV fleet) because this time the "invasion hex" was my own base, which leads to... even if you become predictable by going with the same "routines" all the time, the moment you do something different can become a really nasty surprise for the enemy...

b) I guess Rainer thought I would go directly for Jesselton with the ampib TF because when you look at the screenshots, the IJN BB fleet (and therefore the carriers too) were ordered to a position eight hexes NE of Jesselton...

c) as the third screw up today was the enemy fleetīs nav search spotting my carriers and KB reacting one hex towards them

so these three things went wrong today and led to a 100% disaster for the IJN as we top any real life carrier engagement in both numbers involved and numbers of carriers sunk in one battle... while I mentioned it quite a couple of times that the time when the Japanese should have tried their decisive battle seems to long have passed, having had KB intact always meant a threat to everything that I wouldnīt escort with our mightly fleet outside our powerful LBA... and the next chance to use KB would have been when we attack the Philipines to land on the main island when there are several huge airfields around Manila that could be filled up with 2000 enemy aircraft to be released, followed by KB on day two or even better day three (one problem with this plan of course would be our tactic to never unload longer than one day in a threatened area)... but using KB in this area where Japanese LBA plays no role at all (Brunei and Miri are trashed) and misinterpreting our move of course has to lead to a massacre, no matter how much good or bad luck either side has because we just had by far too many carriers to see a positive outcome for the Japanese...

here are the air losses:





while the Allied losses are not affected (?) by FOW (guess I should get the exact losses?) the Japanese are and I doubt they have lost that many aircraft. My estimation would be something like 500 aircraft destroyed at a ratio of 2:1 bombers/fighters, so probably many elite fighter pilots the Japanese start with are still alive... they lost their carriers though... if we leave FOW aside, then the enemy has lost 180+ Zekes while we have lost 150+ Hellcats/Corsairs which dramatically displays the unparity in fighter performance today, mostly happening due to our first mega strike against KB when our 350+ fighters were chopped to pieces by some 150+ enemy fighters on Cap which is something I fail to understand (except the routine being off here - due to the mega penalty escorts get and the mega advantage the dive gets)... outnumbering the enemy fighters around 5:1 in total today, having nearly a 1:1 loss rate is depressing, considering us having superior aircraft and pilots trained to the max... We have lost around four dozen 70 skilled fighter pilots but very few bomber pilots of escorted strikes... the unescorted piece meal strikes were shot down in droves, even by a meager Cap and those of course suffered horrendous pilot losses too... horrendous due to the reason that it takes S I X months to train a carrier based torpedo bomber pilot (3 months to each 70 navbomb, another 3 months to reach 70 torp)... in comparison, the Helldiver pilots only need 3 months as navbomb is all they need... if you then watch hundreds of torp bombers missing ships that are lying dead in the water you can only start to cry as this just canīt be right when on the other hand a handful of Betties, Nells, Francis, Kate, Jills or whatever other IJNAF torp bomber put holes in your ships at nearly all ocassions, with the IJN torp being so much superior probably the only reason for this as our pilots are just as trained as all the IJNAF pilots (except the elite pilots they get at the start of course)... I would rate the Japanese torp bombers 3-4 times more effective than USN ones, therefore every follow on game will see my USN torp bombers being in level bombing mode at 6000ft mostly... in this game it doesnīt really matter much anymore because the enemy CV fleet is trashed... Iīve told Rainer that I estimate my carrier fleet strenght (without all my CVE) being 4 times stronger now than all CV, CVL, CVE together that are left for his Navy and got the reply that he still has 6 "carriers" so still something to be reckoned with... we completely missed Shokaku, Zuikaku in the engagement, Akagi and Kaga probably still are in a shipyard in Japan which leaves another two carriers of unknown class, perhaps an Unryu and another CVL somewhere... for sure, the enemy wonīt field more than 400 carrier based aircraft if heīs able to bring all his carriers together and such a force isnīt even a real threat to two of my CVE TFs (2x13 CVE) as such a CVE group is going to field around 500 fighters...



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ORIGINAL: castor troy

so letīs have a look at what happened today, together with the info I received from Rainer the "why" this happened is pretty clear. Like he has tried earlier, he wanted to take advantage of the Japanese 8 hex strike ability to move in, launch a strike, clobber our CVE or amphib fleet while staying 1 hex outside of our carrier fleetīs strike range... but three things apparently went wrong this time:

a) while I always staid one hex off the CVE and amphib fleet with all the fleet carriers, this time I had two hex distance as I didnīt fear any LBA strikes that could only aim at the "invasion hex" (without using patrol aircraft to spot the CV fleet) because this time the "invasion hex" was my own base, which leads to... even if you become predictable by going with the same "routines" all the time, the moment you do something different can become a really nasty surprise for the enemy...

b) I guess Rainer thought I would go directly for Jesselton with the ampib TF because when you look at the screenshots, the IJN BB fleet (and therefore the carriers too) were ordered to a position eight hexes NE of Jesselton...

c) as the third screw up today was the enemy fleetīs nav search spotting my carriers and KB reacting one hex towards them

so these three things went wrong today and led to a 100% disaster for the IJN as we top any real life carrier engagement in both numbers involved and numbers of carriers sunk in one battle... while I mentioned it quite a couple of times that the time when the Japanese should have tried their decisive battle seems to long have passed, having had KB intact always meant a threat to everything that I wouldnīt escort with our mightly fleet outside our powerful LBA... and the next chance to use KB would have been when we attack the Philipines to land on the main island when there are several huge airfields around Manila that could be filled up with 2000 enemy aircraft to be released, followed by KB on day two or even better day three (one problem with this plan of course would be our tactic to never unload longer than one day in a threatened area)... but using KB in this area where Japanese LBA plays no role at all (Brunei and Miri are trashed) and misinterpreting our move of course has to lead to a massacre, no matter how much good or bad luck either side has because we just had by far too many carriers to see a positive outcome for the Japanese...

here are the air losses:





while the Allied losses are not affected (?) by FOW (guess I should get the exact losses?) the Japanese are and I doubt they have lost that many aircraft. My estimation would be something like 500 aircraft destroyed at a ratio of 2:1 bombers/fighters, so probably many elite fighter pilots the Japanese start with are still alive... they lost their carriers though... if we leave FOW aside, then the enemy has lost 180+ Zekes while we have lost 150+ Hellcats/Corsairs which dramatically displays the unparity in fighter performance today, mostly happening due to our first mega strike against KB when our 350+ fighters were chopped to pieces by some 150+ enemy fighters on Cap which is something I fail to understand (except the routine being off here - due to the mega penalty escorts get and the mega advantage the dive gets)... outnumbering the enemy fighters around 5:1 in total today, having nearly a 1:1 loss rate is depressing, considering us having superior aircraft and pilots trained to the max... We have lost around four dozen 70 skilled fighter pilots but very few bomber pilots of escorted strikes... the unescorted piece meal strikes were shot down in droves, even by a meager Cap and those of course suffered horrendous pilot losses too... horrendous due to the reason that it takes S I X months to train a carrier based torpedo bomber pilot (3 months to each 70 navbomb, another 3 months to reach 70 torp)... in comparison, the Helldiver pilots only need 3 months as navbomb is all they need... if you then watch hundreds of torp bombers missing ships that are lying dead in the water you can only start to cry as this just canīt be right when on the other hand a handful of Betties, Nells, Francis, Kate, Jills or whatever other IJNAF torp bomber put holes in your ships at nearly all ocassions, with the IJN torp being so much superior probably the only reason for this as our pilots are just as trained as all the IJNAF pilots (except the elite pilots they get at the start of course)... I would rate the Japanese torp bombers 3-4 times more effective than USN ones, therefore every follow on game will see my USN torp bombers being in level bombing mode at 6000ft mostly... in this game it doesnīt really matter much anymore because the enemy CV fleet is trashed... Iīve told Rainer that I estimate my carrier fleet strenght (without all my CVE) being 4 times stronger now than all CV, CVL, CVE together that are left for his Navy and got the reply that he still has 6 "carriers" so still something to be reckoned with... we completely missed Shokaku, Zuikaku in the engagement, Akagi and Kaga probably still are in a shipyard in Japan which leaves another two carriers of unknown class, perhaps an Unryu and another CVL somewhere... for sure, the enemy wonīt field more than 400 carrier based aircraft if heīs able to bring all his carriers together and such a force isnīt even a real threat to two of my CVE TFs (2x13 CVE) as such a CVE group is going to field around 500 fighters...





Good analysis. It is a fine line holding KB back because there is some merit if forcing the Allied player to use mass and not split up operations. (A good reason why the Allies should not risk carriers in 42 as well) but there comes a certain point in the game where KB, no matter how strong becomes redundant. The Japanese player just can't wait forever because once that point is reached, KB is going to get smashed no matter the damaged dealt out to the Allies. Except in a unfavorable position, a good 8-10 Allied fleet carriers can probably fight and any untouched KB to a draw.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 3/2/2011 6:34:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: castor troy

so letīs have a look at what happened today, together with the info I received from Rainer the "why" this happened is pretty clear. Like he has tried earlier, he wanted to take advantage of the Japanese 8 hex strike ability to move in, launch a strike, clobber our CVE or amphib fleet while staying 1 hex outside of our carrier fleetīs strike range... but three things apparently went wrong this time:

a) while I always staid one hex off the CVE and amphib fleet with all the fleet carriers, this time I had two hex distance as I didnīt fear any LBA strikes that could only aim at the "invasion hex" (without using patrol aircraft to spot the CV fleet) because this time the "invasion hex" was my own base, which leads to... even if you become predictable by going with the same "routines" all the time, the moment you do something different can become a really nasty surprise for the enemy...

b) I guess Rainer thought I would go directly for Jesselton with the ampib TF because when you look at the screenshots, the IJN BB fleet (and therefore the carriers too) were ordered to a position eight hexes NE of Jesselton...

c) as the third screw up today was the enemy fleetīs nav search spotting my carriers and KB reacting one hex towards them

so these three things went wrong today and led to a 100% disaster for the IJN as we top any real life carrier engagement in both numbers involved and numbers of carriers sunk in one battle... while I mentioned it quite a couple of times that the time when the Japanese should have tried their decisive battle seems to long have passed, having had KB intact always meant a threat to everything that I wouldnīt escort with our mightly fleet outside our powerful LBA... and the next chance to use KB would have been when we attack the Philipines to land on the main island when there are several huge airfields around Manila that could be filled up with 2000 enemy aircraft to be released, followed by KB on day two or even better day three (one problem with this plan of course would be our tactic to never unload longer than one day in a threatened area)... but using KB in this area where Japanese LBA plays no role at all (Brunei and Miri are trashed) and misinterpreting our move of course has to lead to a massacre, no matter how much good or bad luck either side has because we just had by far too many carriers to see a positive outcome for the Japanese...

here are the air losses:





while the Allied losses are not affected (?) by FOW (guess I should get the exact losses?) the Japanese are and I doubt they have lost that many aircraft. My estimation would be something like 500 aircraft destroyed at a ratio of 2:1 bombers/fighters, so probably many elite fighter pilots the Japanese start with are still alive... they lost their carriers though... if we leave FOW aside, then the enemy has lost 180+ Zekes while we have lost 150+ Hellcats/Corsairs which dramatically displays the unparity in fighter performance today, mostly happening due to our first mega strike against KB when our 350+ fighters were chopped to pieces by some 150+ enemy fighters on Cap which is something I fail to understand (except the routine being off here - due to the mega penalty escorts get and the mega advantage the dive gets)... outnumbering the enemy fighters around 5:1 in total today, having nearly a 1:1 loss rate is depressing, considering us having superior aircraft and pilots trained to the max... We have lost around four dozen 70 skilled fighter pilots but very few bomber pilots of escorted strikes... the unescorted piece meal strikes were shot down in droves, even by a meager Cap and those of course suffered horrendous pilot losses too... horrendous due to the reason that it takes S I X months to train a carrier based torpedo bomber pilot (3 months to each 70 navbomb, another 3 months to reach 70 torp)... in comparison, the Helldiver pilots only need 3 months as navbomb is all they need... if you then watch hundreds of torp bombers missing ships that are lying dead in the water you can only start to cry as this just canīt be right when on the other hand a handful of Betties, Nells, Francis, Kate, Jills or whatever other IJNAF torp bomber put holes in your ships at nearly all ocassions, with the IJN torp being so much superior probably the only reason for this as our pilots are just as trained as all the IJNAF pilots (except the elite pilots they get at the start of course)... I would rate the Japanese torp bombers 3-4 times more effective than USN ones, therefore every follow on game will see my USN torp bombers being in level bombing mode at 6000ft mostly... in this game it doesnīt really matter much anymore because the enemy CV fleet is trashed... Iīve told Rainer that I estimate my carrier fleet strenght (without all my CVE) being 4 times stronger now than all CV, CVL, CVE together that are left for his Navy and got the reply that he still has 6 "carriers" so still something to be reckoned with... we completely missed Shokaku, Zuikaku in the engagement, Akagi and Kaga probably still are in a shipyard in Japan which leaves another two carriers of unknown class, perhaps an Unryu and another CVL somewhere... for sure, the enemy wonīt field more than 400 carrier based aircraft if heīs able to bring all his carriers together and such a force isnīt even a real threat to two of my CVE TFs (2x13 CVE) as such a CVE group is going to field around 500 fighters...




Castor,

just a small comment on plane losses. The numbers you see divided by model are affected by FOW, but the total number you see in the intel report and on the right side of the screen (611 planes for Japan) is SPOT ON.
I tested it many times and the number you see in the intel report is exactly right, even with FOW ON. If you use tracker you will also able to see the exact number of losses for each model.

Jeffrey



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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 3/3/2011 7:25:25 AM   
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thanks for this info, very much appreciated. As Iīve often seen more aircraft "type x" shot down than there even were in combat Iīve always thought the total losses would be FOW too as Iīve never summed up the losses of individual types.

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 3/3/2011 7:36:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: crsutton

quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

so letīs have a look at what happened today, together with the info I received from Rainer the "why" this happened is pretty clear. Like he has tried earlier, he wanted to take advantage of the Japanese 8 hex strike ability to move in, launch a strike, clobber our CVE or amphib fleet while staying 1 hex outside of our carrier fleetīs strike range... but three things apparently went wrong this time:

a) while I always staid one hex off the CVE and amphib fleet with all the fleet carriers, this time I had two hex distance as I didnīt fear any LBA strikes that could only aim at the "invasion hex" (without using patrol aircraft to spot the CV fleet) because this time the "invasion hex" was my own base, which leads to... even if you become predictable by going with the same "routines" all the time, the moment you do something different can become a really nasty surprise for the enemy...

b) I guess Rainer thought I would go directly for Jesselton with the ampib TF because when you look at the screenshots, the IJN BB fleet (and therefore the carriers too) were ordered to a position eight hexes NE of Jesselton...

c) as the third screw up today was the enemy fleetīs nav search spotting my carriers and KB reacting one hex towards them

so these three things went wrong today and led to a 100% disaster for the IJN as we top any real life carrier engagement in both numbers involved and numbers of carriers sunk in one battle... while I mentioned it quite a couple of times that the time when the Japanese should have tried their decisive battle seems to long have passed, having had KB intact always meant a threat to everything that I wouldnīt escort with our mightly fleet outside our powerful LBA... and the next chance to use KB would have been when we attack the Philipines to land on the main island when there are several huge airfields around Manila that could be filled up with 2000 enemy aircraft to be released, followed by KB on day two or even better day three (one problem with this plan of course would be our tactic to never unload longer than one day in a threatened area)... but using KB in this area where Japanese LBA plays no role at all (Brunei and Miri are trashed) and misinterpreting our move of course has to lead to a massacre, no matter how much good or bad luck either side has because we just had by far too many carriers to see a positive outcome for the Japanese...

here are the air losses:





while the Allied losses are not affected (?) by FOW (guess I should get the exact losses?) the Japanese are and I doubt they have lost that many aircraft. My estimation would be something like 500 aircraft destroyed at a ratio of 2:1 bombers/fighters, so probably many elite fighter pilots the Japanese start with are still alive... they lost their carriers though... if we leave FOW aside, then the enemy has lost 180+ Zekes while we have lost 150+ Hellcats/Corsairs which dramatically displays the unparity in fighter performance today, mostly happening due to our first mega strike against KB when our 350+ fighters were chopped to pieces by some 150+ enemy fighters on Cap which is something I fail to understand (except the routine being off here - due to the mega penalty escorts get and the mega advantage the dive gets)... outnumbering the enemy fighters around 5:1 in total today, having nearly a 1:1 loss rate is depressing, considering us having superior aircraft and pilots trained to the max... We have lost around four dozen 70 skilled fighter pilots but very few bomber pilots of escorted strikes... the unescorted piece meal strikes were shot down in droves, even by a meager Cap and those of course suffered horrendous pilot losses too... horrendous due to the reason that it takes S I X months to train a carrier based torpedo bomber pilot (3 months to each 70 navbomb, another 3 months to reach 70 torp)... in comparison, the Helldiver pilots only need 3 months as navbomb is all they need... if you then watch hundreds of torp bombers missing ships that are lying dead in the water you can only start to cry as this just canīt be right when on the other hand a handful of Betties, Nells, Francis, Kate, Jills or whatever other IJNAF torp bomber put holes in your ships at nearly all ocassions, with the IJN torp being so much superior probably the only reason for this as our pilots are just as trained as all the IJNAF pilots (except the elite pilots they get at the start of course)... I would rate the Japanese torp bombers 3-4 times more effective than USN ones, therefore every follow on game will see my USN torp bombers being in level bombing mode at 6000ft mostly... in this game it doesnīt really matter much anymore because the enemy CV fleet is trashed... Iīve told Rainer that I estimate my carrier fleet strenght (without all my CVE) being 4 times stronger now than all CV, CVL, CVE together that are left for his Navy and got the reply that he still has 6 "carriers" so still something to be reckoned with... we completely missed Shokaku, Zuikaku in the engagement, Akagi and Kaga probably still are in a shipyard in Japan which leaves another two carriers of unknown class, perhaps an Unryu and another CVL somewhere... for sure, the enemy wonīt field more than 400 carrier based aircraft if heīs able to bring all his carriers together and such a force isnīt even a real threat to two of my CVE TFs (2x13 CVE) as such a CVE group is going to field around 500 fighters...





Good analysis. It is a fine line holding KB back because there is some merit if forcing the Allied player to use mass and not split up operations. (A good reason why the Allies should not risk carriers in 42 as well) but there comes a certain point in the game where KB, no matter how strong becomes redundant. The Japanese player just can't wait forever because once that point is reached, KB is going to get smashed no matter the damaged dealt out to the Allies. Except in a unfavorable position, a good 8-10 Allied fleet carriers can probably fight and any untouched KB to a draw.



yeah, the game is about numbers afterall and while using CV fleets (of both sides) like Rainer and I have done is rather unrealistic, since WITP Iīve always been saying "splitting your assets is splitting your chance of success". With that credo I have smacked a couple of players splitting KB in 42 for example. I couldnīt think of any chance for KB in a heads on engagement with my CV fleet (even hard without the 13 CVE I had with the fleet carriers) but the Japanese havenīt planned to attack my carriers anyway but the plan got screwed up.

IMO KB like in the engagement above would be a match for 10 Essex CV though because that would mean only 400 Hellcats, if you send 160 on escort you end up with 240 max over your carriers and if you look at what got through my 500+ fighters you can say good bye to a couple of flattops because the IJN torp bombers bite. On the other hand, sending "only" 500 strike aircraft against KB probably would have meant 30-50% less damage done (depending on the weather, remember I had "clear sky") as you canīt rely on TBF/TBM carrying torps anyway. So while the floor was whiped in this turn, with "only" 10 carriers and bad weather perhaps, the enemy would have got away light with us taking more (probably far more) damage, ending in a draw perhaps. Not that it would really count in the game to lose a couple of carriers for the Allied, I still always try to keep damage at a minimum because Iīm more thinking about real life and what it has meant for public to lose a BB or a CV, let alone four or five of these capital ships in one day. In the game the Allied player at times cheers when he sinks 6 IJN CV for 4 Allied CV but in real life 4 Allied CV lost would be quite a tragedy.

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Status: offline 		Following the air losses, letīs have a look at the carriers.

The enemy should have lost this:

CV: Unryu, Junyo, Taiho, Hiryu, Soryu

CVL: Nisshin, Mizuho, Ryuho, Zuiho, Chiyoda, Ryujo

CVE: Shinyo, Chuyo, Kaiyo (probably), Taiyo, Unyo (probably), Hosho


4 CV, 6 CVL and 4 CVE plus two more probably sunk. Several other ships heavily damaged or sunk.

The Allied have lost the British CVE Battler (carrying two dozen Corsair II which is a real pity to lose them) plus seven CVE and a CVL damaged. Two CVE were on the edge of sinking but managed to reach Tawi Tawi and could be saved so Battler was the only ship actually been lost. Counting up the sunk carriers, it looks less than what the replay has made me think because Iīve thought Iīve whiped out everything. On the other hand, with Shokaku, Zuikaku, Akagi and Kaga either not being attack or not with KB at all due to ongoing repairs, there were not that many more carriers available to be sunk I guess. Iīm sure Rainer had all operational carriers in one basket for this attack.

thatīs how my damaged carriers looked like after the last bomb was dropped:






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ASW attack near Taytay at 72,79

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsuharu
DD Asashimo
DD Hamanami
DD Kiyonami

Allied Ships
SS Trespasser, hits 4



SS Trespasser is sighted by escort
Trespasser diving deep ....
DD Hatsuharu fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Asashimo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hamanami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kiyonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asashimo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hamanami fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kiyonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asashimo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kiyonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kiyonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kiyonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Taytay at 72,77

Japanese Ships
CL Noshiro

Allied Ships
SS S-46



CL Noshiro is sighted by SS S-46
SS S-46 launches 4 torpedoes at CL Noshiro

duds... the enemy fleet scattered and was spotted fleeing in all directions, we moved some subs into expected retreat paths... the only thing Iīve feared today was a strong enemy SAG to attack my fleet still unloading at Kudat but we had two SAGs there, both having two BB so Iīve decided to stay in place with our carriers moving slightly NE...


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Morning Air attack on Cagayan , at 79,89

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 42,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 12



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 2
P-38J Lightning x 2
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 2
F4U-1A Corsair x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed




CAP engaged:
VMF-111 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
VMF-113 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
VMF-115 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
VMF-121 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
VMF-216 with F4U-1A Corsair (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead
VMF-222 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
VMF-311 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
VMF-441 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
No.452 Sqn RAF with Spitfire VIII (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
No.457 Sqn RAF with Spitfire VIII (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
49th FG/7th FS with P-38J Lightning (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
8th FG/36th FS with P-47D25 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
15th FG/47th FS with P-38J Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes

leaking Cap hits a Zeke sweep hard...

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Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 64 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 15
P-38J Lightning x 5
F4U-1A Corsair x 20
PV-1 Ventura x 24


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 5 damaged



Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 48 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12
P-38J Lightning x 32
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 28
PV-1 Ventura x 48


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 7 damaged



Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 78

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 7
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6



Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 10
Liberator B.III x 13
Liberator B.VI x 21
B-24D Liberator x 6
B-24D1 Liberator x 88
B-29-1 Superfort x 74


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Refinery hits 38
Airbase hits 23
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 119

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-311 Hikotai with A6M3a Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes

we keep on working on total destruction of Port Arthurīs refinery while keeping the airfield out of operation... the fighters on defense are LRCAP or leaking Cap...


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Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2



Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 9


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses




Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
S-311 Hikotai with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Jesselton , at 68,86

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 30
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 40

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

many Japanese aircraft from the carriers diverted to Jesselton and other nearby Japanese bases when the flattops were bombed...

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Morning Air attack on Jesselton , at 68,86

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 26


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed on ground
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
B6N1 Jill: 1 destroyed on ground
D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed on ground




Runway hits 54

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Jesselton , at 68,86

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12
P-51B Mustang x 13


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground




Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6


No Allied losses




Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged




Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 55 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 8
P-38J Lightning x 3
F6F-3 Hellcat x 20


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 4


No Allied losses



Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Kudat , at 69,86

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia Peggy x 29



Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 175


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia Peggy: 17 destroyed




CAP engaged:
VF-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
VF-8 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
VF-9 with F6F-3 Hellcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
VF-10 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
VF-14 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
VF-16 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
VF-71 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
VF-23 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
VC(F)-33 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
VC(F)-63 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
VC(F)-68 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes


wow, a Peggy strike shows up unescorted, Rainer said he hoped to be lucky and catch some ships at Kudat... not as long as my CVE fleet is sitting there... even leaking Cap from the fleet carriers three hexes away shows up... all Peggies were shot down, even though not as many as the intel screen shows of course...





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the 28th saw another intense turn...


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 28, 44
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Samah at 73,70

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 4


Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Cuba Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

our patrol aircraft picked up lots of traffic in the South China Sea and we start off with some small numbers of USN Liberators attacking shipping...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Quinhon at 70,70

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 4


Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Kuroshio Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

thatīs what I love to see, unfortunately only 15% of the available bombers attacked this TF...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iba at 71,75

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 29
N1K1-J George x 36



Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 15
F6F-3 Hellcat x 297


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 15 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 12 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 7 destroyed

due to having had so many sightings yesterday Iīve decided to use the fleet carriers for a raid a bit deeper into the South China Sea which of course also brought me into range of enemy aircraft on the Philipines (9 hexes to Manila which is the enemyīs main airfield there). The enemy carriers are no threat anymore but going closer to several big airfields of course posed a serious threat, depending on the number of aircraft set to attack there. My main concern was the number of fighters on Cap over my carriers as I expected many of them heading out to escort the bombers as I refuse to use Cap settings that cause 50+ fatigue within one or two days and have "forgotten" to shorten the range of 70% of the fighters - in fact, itīs just too much work to do so when youīve got dozens of carriers in a hex and have to give orders to every squadron on them...

same as weīve seen earlier, the enemy starts off with sweeps as these escorts fail to meet up with the bombers... none of them were set to ceiling "escorts" and so they came in at 6000ft and were bounced by our Cap that shred the whole strike, not without over a dozen Allied fighters shot down though... no matter which settings you use, the whole strike routine is bullocks, the enemy would have been better off setting everything to max alt instead of trying to set them to the same alt as the bombers while failing just as often... bullocks...


CAP engaged:
VF-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
VF-42 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
VF-8 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
VF-9 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
VF-10 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
VF-11 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
VF-14 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
VF-16 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
VF-18 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
VF-71 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
VF-22 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
VF-23 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
VF-24 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
VF-25 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
VF-26 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
VF-27 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 1 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
VF-28 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
VF-29 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iba at 71,75

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 58 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 11



Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 14
F6F-3 Hellcat x 260





Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 12 destroyed
Ki-21-IIb Sally: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

following the Zeke/George sweep the bomber strike shows up with some outdated A6M2 (donīt know if the enemy is really short of advanced airframes or if heīs so restricted with his upgrade paths - PDU is on btw)... neither the escorts nor the bombers had a chance... so far so good, expected far bigger and much more dangerous strikes... neither our carriers nor the enemy airfields launched any strikes in the morning and thatīs all that was coming from the Philipines... amazing as the 300 Cap surely wouldnīt be a vacuum cleaner of incoming strikes...


CAP engaged:
VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-42 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-8 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes
19 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-9 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes
17 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-10 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-11 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-14 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-16 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-18 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-71 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
17 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-22 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-23 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-24 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-25 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-26 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-27 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-28 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-29 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 62 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
No.881 Sqn FAA with Corsair II (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Samah at 73,70

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 12


Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Teisen Maru, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Ryuyo Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 17
F6F-3 Hellcat x 40
PV-1 Ventura x 24


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 7
PV-1 Ventura x 48


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 53

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 122


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 27
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 142
Port hits 8
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

will take another three or four weeks until our reinforcements got enough preparation to be thrown into the fight here... until then, we have to fly these supression attacks...

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Afternoon Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 28


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged



Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 38

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 12
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 14


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 28
P-51B Mustang x 13


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged



Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed



Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 33
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 14


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 38

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

the usual dispersed "waves" that follow one big strike... for what reason ever...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Samah at 73,70

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 46
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 60
TBF-1 Avenger x 36


Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 3 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Teisen Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Meiu Maru, Bomb hits 16, and is sunk
xAK Yamabuki Maru, Bomb hits 14, and is sunk
xAK Tamaki Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Nako Maru, Bomb hits 16, and is sunk
xAK Oregon Maru, Bomb hits 15, and is sunk
E W-14, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Tamon Maru #15, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk
PB Eiko Maru, Bomb hits 8, and is sunk
PB Tatsumiya Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Ryuyo Maru, and is sunk
PB Chitose Maru, Bomb hits 1

then the carriers finally launch a strike... no idea why no strike was flown in the morning and no idea why only this TF is attacked as there were at least two dozen more ships in other TFs in range and weīve got hundreds of bombers ready... that convoy was hit hard though...


Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
17 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
12 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Meiu Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Tamaki Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Nako Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Oregon Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Yamabuki Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Tamon Maru #15
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring PB Eiko Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring PB Tatsumiya Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Ryuyo Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Teisen Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring E W-14


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Ground combat at Babeldaob (90,97)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 43572 troops, 875 guns, 1094 vehicles, Assault Value = 1701

Defending force 45915 troops, 417 guns, 110 vehicles, Assault Value = 1324

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Division
763rd Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
40th Infantry Division
5th USMC Tank Battalion
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
38th Infantry Division
43rd Infantry Division
II Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
162nd USA Base Force
163rd USA Base Force
159th USA Base Force
181st USAAF Base Force
228th USN Base Force
III US Amphib Corps
233rd USN Base Force
114th USAAF Base Force

Defending units:
Babeldoap Naval Fortress
12th Division
46th Division
4th Guards Division
8th Base Force
30th Special Base Force
60th Field AA Battalion
7th Air Division
22nd Special Base Force
45th JNAF AF Unit
25th JAAF AF Bn

weīre going to throw another 1300 av onto the island, until then, no chance to achieve something... two lucky ground combat rounds and bringing in 4th Guards div bought Rainer at least three months here... the only major invasion that was stalled so far... thatīs why I donīt like the island campaign through the Pacific, takes just too much time if you get stalled somewhere... and getting stalled on a single base island is easier than getting stalled on a big island with several bases as you usually at least have one port to easily unload further troops which isnīt possible if you only own a "bridgehead" and donīt have 100% prepped reinforcements...




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Posts: 9590
Joined: 12/6/2002
From: Maryland
Status: offline 		My campaign is in the last quarter of 1943 and I was looking over the surface reinforcements for the Allies. They sure get plenty-especially DDs. One thing I noted is that virtually every surface ship that comes into the game after 1/44 has a crew rating over 70 for both day and night. Some of them are closer to 80. No problem there. Yet, I have veteran DDs and CAs that have been fighting since 12/7/41 and some of them are still below 60. I can'f figure this one out. The crew exp levels on some of my old BBs just plain suck. Apparently, surviving the Pearl Harbor attack did little to educate these guys...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cam Ranh Bay at 64,72, Range 12,000 Yards





Japanese Ships
PB Akagane Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Chitose Maru #2, Shell hits 2
PB Senyo Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
xAKL Hinko Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Miiko Maru, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Nissen Maru #2, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Nissyo Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Saiko Maru, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
xAKL Nittatsu Maru
xAKL Shingetsu Maru, Shell hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Junpo Maru, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CA Astoria
CA Minneapolis
CA Boston
CL Denver
CL Mobile
DD Fletcher
DD Ammen
DD Bell
DD Black
DD Converse
DD Dashiell
DD Hall
DD Heermann



Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF begins to get underway
Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 50% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 28,000 yards
Range closes to 26,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 26,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 22,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 16,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 12,000 yards
CA Boston fires at PB Senyo Maru at 12,000 yards
CA Minneapolis fires at xAKL Miiko Maru at 12,000 yards
CA Astoria fires at PB Akagane Maru at 12,000 yards
CA Northampton fires at xAKL Junpo Maru at 12,000 yards
CL Mobile fires at xAKL Shingetsu Maru at 12,000 yards
CL Denver fires at xAKL Nissen Maru #2 at 12,000 yards
CA Astoria fires at xAKL Nissyo Maru at 12,000 yards
DD Dashiell fires at xAKL Nissyo Maru at 12,000 yards
DD Converse fires at xAKL Miiko Maru at 12,000 yards
DD Black fires at xAKL Hinko Maru at 12,000 yards
DD Bell fires at xAKL Junpo Maru at 12,000 yards
DD Ammen fires at xAKL Nissyo Maru at 12,000 yards
DD Fletcher fires at xAKL Nissyo Maru at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CL Mobile engages PB Senyo Maru at 10,000 yards
CL Mobile engages PB Chitose Maru #2 at 10,000 yards
CA Boston engages PB Akagane Maru at 10,000 yards
CA Northampton engages xAKL Junpo Maru at 10,000 yards
CL Denver engages xAKL Nissen Maru #2 at 10,000 yards
DD Heermann engages xAKL Saiko Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Heermann engages xAKL Miiko Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Black engages xAKL Nissen Maru #2 at 10,000 yards
DD Bell engages xAKL Miiko Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Ammen engages xAKL Shingetsu Maru at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CA Minneapolis engages PB Senyo Maru at 7,000 yards
CA Minneapolis engages PB Chitose Maru #2 at 7,000 yards
DD Black engages xAKL Junpo Maru at 7,000 yards
CL Mobile engages xAKL Shingetsu Maru at 7,000 yards
CL Denver engages xAKL Miiko Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Heermann engages xAKL Shingetsu Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Hall engages xAKL Nissen Maru #2 at 7,000 yards
DD Dashiell engages xAKL Junpo Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Converse engages xAKL Saiko Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Fletcher engages xAKL Hinko Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Bell engages xAKL Shingetsu Maru at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
CA Boston engages PB Senyo Maru at 4,000 yards
xAKL Saiko Maru sunk by CA Minneapolis at 4,000 yards
CA Northampton engages PB Akagane Maru at 4,000 yards
DD Dashiell engages xAKL Junpo Maru at 4,000 yards
CA Astoria engages xAKL Shingetsu Maru at 4,000 yards
DD Heermann engages xAKL Hinko Maru at 4,000 yards
DD Hall engages xAKL Junpo Maru at 4,000 yards
DD Dashiell engages xAKL Nissen Maru #2 at 4,000 yards
DD Heermann engages xAKL Miiko Maru at 4,000 yards
CA Boston engages xAKL Hinko Maru at 4,000 yards
DD Fletcher engages PB Senyo Maru at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
xAKL Shingetsu Maru sunk by CA Boston at 2,000 yards
CA Minneapolis engages PB Akagane Maru at 2,000 yards
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...

weīve dispatched a cruiser squadron from our carriers to bombard the place and engage ships if any show up... we meet one of the TFs that got away from being hit by our carriers and whipe the floor with the Japanese... long battle and lots of shells being fired, not sure the bombardment will have any effect...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cam Ranh Bay at 64,72, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Akagane Maru, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
PB Chitose Maru #2, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
PB Senyo Maru, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
xAKL Hinko Maru, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
xAKL Miiko Maru, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
xAKL Nissen Maru #2, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
xAKL Nissyo Maru, Shell hits 31, and is sunk
xAKL Nittatsu Maru, Shell hits 28, and is sunk
xAKL Shingetsu Maru, and is sunk
xAKL Junpo Maru, Shell hits 4, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CA Astoria
CA Minneapolis
CA Boston
CL Denver
CL Mobile
DD Fletcher
DD Ammen
DD Bell
DD Black
DD Converse
DD Dashiell
DD Hall
DD Heermann



Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF begins to get underway
Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 50% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
Range closes to 26,000 yards...
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 22,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 16,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 12,000 yards
CA Boston fires at PB Senyo Maru at 12,000 yards
CA Minneapolis fires at PB Chitose Maru #2 at 12,000 yards
CA Boston fires at PB Akagane Maru at 12,000 yards
xAKL Junpo Maru sunk by CA Northampton at 12,000 yards
CA Northampton fires at xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 12,000 yards
DD Heermann fires at xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 12,000 yards
DD Dashiell fires at xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 12,000 yards
CA Boston fires at xAKL Hinko Maru at 12,000 yards
DD Fletcher fires at xAKL Hinko Maru at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CA Boston engages PB Senyo Maru at 10,000 yards
CA Boston engages PB Chitose Maru #2 at 10,000 yards
PB Senyo Maru sunk by CA Astoria at 10,000 yards
DD Dashiell engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Converse engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Bell engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Ammen engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CA Boston engages PB Chitose Maru #2 at 8,000 yards
PB Akagane Maru sunk by CA Boston at 8,000 yards
DD Heermann engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 8,000 yards
CA Northampton engages PB Chitose Maru #2 at 8,000 yards
PB Chitose Maru #2 sunk by CL Mobile at 8,000 yards
DD Ammen engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
CA Boston engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 4,000 yards
CA Northampton engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 4,000 yards
CL Mobile engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 4,000 yards
xAKL Nittatsu Maru sunk by CL Denver at 4,000 yards
DD Converse engages xAKL Nissyo Maru at 4,000 yards
DD Bell engages xAKL Nissyo Maru at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
xAKL Nissyo Maru sunk by CA Boston at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
DD Converse engages xAKL Nissen Maru #2 at 3,000 yards
xAKL Nissen Maru #2 sunk by CA Minneapolis at 3,000 yards
xAKL Miiko Maru sunk by CA Boston at 3,000 yards
xAKL Miiko Maru sunk by CA Boston at 3,000 yards
Combat ends with last Japanese ship sunk...

when the first encounter ended, nearly the whole TF was in sinking condition... then a second round starts and now everything is sunk...


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Night Naval bombardment of Cam Ranh Bay at 64,72 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 2 destroyed on ground
G4M1-L Betty: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 4 destroyed on ground
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed on ground
H8K1 Emily: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed on ground
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

53 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CA Boston
CA Minneapolis
CA Astoria, Shell hits 1
CA Northampton, Shell hits 2
CL Mobile
CL Denver

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 26
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 46
Port hits 1

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Boston
CA Boston firing at Cam Ranh Bay
CA Minneapolis firing at Cam Ranh Bay
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for CA Astoria
CA Astoria firing at Cam Ranh Fortress
Cam Ranh Fortress firing at CA Astoria
CA Northampton firing at Cam Ranh Fortress
Cam Ranh Fortress firing at CA Northampton
CL Mobile firing at Cam Ranh Bay
CL Denver firing at Cam Ranh Bay

followed by our bombardment that hits dozens of aircraft on the ground but is not as devastating as weīve planned, the airfield stays operational... have ordered hundreds of long range fighters and heavy bombers to attack the place during the day...


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Kudat at 69,86, Range 26,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-1
MTB G-2

Allied Ships
BB Nevada
BB Oklahoma
CA Chester
CA Salt Lake City
CL Boise
DD Grayson
DD Buchanan
DD McCalla
DD Meade
DD Harding
DD Baldwin
DD Carmick
DD Endicott
DD Walke
DD Morris



Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
Range closes to 26,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 26,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 26,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards
Range closes to 22,000 yards
Range closes to 21,000 yards
Nomizo, H. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 22,000 yards
BB Oklahoma engages MTB G-2 at 22,000 yards
Range increases to 25,000 yards
Range increases to 29,000 yards
Task forces break off...

the enemy now uses his PT boats... no effect...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Banggi at 69,85, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-1
MTB G-2

Allied Ships
LCT-64
LCT-65
LCT-323
LCT-324
LCT-325
LCT-326
LCT-354
LCT-363
PT-239
PT-240



Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 6,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 4,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 4,000 yards
Both TF attempt to withdraw!
Range increases to 4,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat


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Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 25
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 21
Ki-84a Frank x 27



Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 22


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 4 destroyed



CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 19 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 16 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters to 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 21 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes

then we start our air attacks and it was the time to really get upset about this piss poor design that was called "enhanced strike routines to create more realistic air attacks"... pff, what a fart... have ordered 150 fighters to sweep and as usual, the sweeps go in at squadron size while losng a fragment of three fighters each... also as usual, we then meet an enemy that has numerical superiority as radar again sends up everything that has not been damaged before... this design is just silly...

you employ twice, three times, four times, five times or even more aircraft than the enemy but end up in a numerical disadvantage all the time because the design is bullocks... nothing more to say than this has nothing to do with realism, nothing...

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Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 19
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 12
Ki-84a Frank x 18



Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 21


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed



CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
15 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 36740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 38500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes

what is true for the P-47 of course also is true for the P-38... heck, where is the rest of the fighters?


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Saigon at 60,71

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 16
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 10



Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 10


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
AV Kamikawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AV Sagara Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (7 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
246th Sentai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (4 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 14
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 6
Ki-84a Frank x 13



Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 6
Liberator B.III x 15
Liberator B.VI x 27
B-24D Liberator x 9
B-24D1 Liberator x 47
B-29-1 Superfort x 70


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 6 damaged
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 6 damaged
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 8 destroyed on ground
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
H8K1 Emily: 5 destroyed on ground
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 7 destroyed on ground
G4M1-L Betty: 7 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.III: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 27
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 215

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 36000 and 41440.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 70 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 35000 and 42740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes

wow, itīs really stupid as it is... 150 fighters (6 full squadrons) set to sweep, major parts of two show up before the bombers... another four squadrons were set to escort, not a single fighter shows up with the bombers... out of 250 fighters, not even 50 manage to show up at a time to help out the bombers... S I L L Y by design... does it matter? no, of course not... why? because bombers alone perform better anyway than fighters would do... this is just crazy...

go and play BoB bombing the Reich, then go back and try to design a working routine for WITP AE... as it is now, itīs nothing but a strange piece of crap... the more squadrons involved, the stranger it gets...

what has been damaged by the cruisers during the night is now torched by the bombers... but the strike routine leaves me again...


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Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 7
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 5
Ki-84a Frank x 7



Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 7
B-24D1 Liberator x 3
B-29-1 Superfort x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 damaged
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-84a Frank: 2 damaged
H8K1 Emily: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 42740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes

the oh so realistic strike routine then does with the bomber strikes what it always does, one huge strike is followed by lots of piece meal waves... yeah, pure realism... if WITPīs strikes were unrealistic, how can someone think this would be realistic? None of the books about airwar in WWII show anything coming close to how strikes, sweeps or escorts look like in the game...

and no setting or anything else in the game would make it anywhere better...

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Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 6
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 4
Ki-84a Frank x 5



Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 7


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 1
Ki-84a Frank x 2



Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
H8K1 Emily: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 4 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters to 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Kuching , at 58,88

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 63


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-56 Thalia: 3 destroyed on ground


Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 22
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 118

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

same with other strikes too of course... first the main strike...

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Morning Air attack on Kuching , at 58,88

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

then the rest...

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Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1



Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 38500
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 3


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 31000 feet *

after the bombers the first fighter fragment shows up! HOW SILLY IS THIS REALLY? Stop praising your own work and actually look at what happens here, then turn back and ask yourselve if this is the realism you insist to tell people...


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Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 21


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
21 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 35000 feet *

then some more Lightnings...

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Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 3


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet *

and a Lightning fragment...

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Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 3


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet *

another Lightning fragment...

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Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 21


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
21 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet *

more Lightnings, the fragment came in already? itīs so ridicioulos and reading tips or guides how to improve this makes it even more ridicoulos when you find out this all helps nothing and is nothing but a fairytale that has been brought up to mask obvious flaws that have been there right from release and seem to never be even looked at...

so besides escort and sweep missions failing completely again today, I should perhaps also mention that something like 50% of the fighters didnīt fly at all... I donīt even want to get started about this (no, forget morale, fat or anything else, it was just perfect)... this behaviour is well known already from WITP, obeying orders wasnīt common in WWII you know... unfortunately, with the new oh so great strike routines, this has now become an even bigger problem... but hey, realism pure...


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Saigon at 60,71

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 11
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 10



Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 7


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
AV Sagara Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
246th Sentai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes

thatīs it then... ordering 250 advanced fighters to attack that would have outnumbered the enemy 3-4:1 ended up in being outnumbered by the enemy 3:1 because the strike routine decided this would be much more realistic...

this meant our fighters have shot down a dozen enemies for the loss of nearly two dozen of our fighters that were better aircraft flown by 70 skilled pilots... mhm, alltogether this sounds like a highly reasonable and realistic result for the employed forces... now imagine the unrealistic cruiser bombardment wouldnīt have worked during the night... I go with what Iīve said lots of times earlier already, directly attacking a heavily capped target with radar is a nogo because with the borked strike routines you end up at a disadvantage again and again and again, no matter if you employ a three or four time bigger force that clearly also got the better aircraft...

it makes me sad but at the same time Iīm just going to switch back to the old tactic of trying to draw out leaking Cap... and then Allied players wonder when they run out of advanced fighters after attacking heavily Capped targets... of course, using carrier based fighter squadrons on sweep works just perfect as they come in near perfectly "coordinated", for what reason ever... something you fail to manage if you order 2x25 fighters from a level 9 airfield... mhm, that surely wasnīt possible in real life... if you say that often enough, at some point you probably start to believe it yourselve...





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My campaign is in the last quarter of 1943 and I was looking over the surface reinforcements for the Allies. They sure get plenty-especially DDs. One thing I noted is that virtually every surface ship that comes into the game after 1/44 has a crew rating over 70 for both day and night. Some of them are closer to 80. No problem there. Yet, I have veteran DDs and CAs that have been fighting since 12/7/41 and some of them are still below 60. I can'f figure this one out. The crew exp levels on some of my old BBs just plain suck. Apparently, surviving the Pearl Harbor attack did little to educate these guys...



yeah, the "veteran" ships canīt match the reinforcements. Look at BB Richelieu for example, first Iīve thought I would not really have a use for her just to find out itīs the highest experienced BB I have available now. So sheīs leading my US CV fleet because all the modern US BBs just suck when you compare the exp of them and Richelieu. And I rate exp higher than how the BB looks like because most times youīve got night engagements and then it doesnīt really matter much if you hit your enemy with a 14" shell from 2000 yards or a 18".

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Status: offline 		The cruiser bombardment and the bombers accounted for the enemyīs losses today, using our 250 fighters just accounted for more losses on our side. I wonder why I spend hours and hours for click parties to transfer all those pilots around all the time.




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Morning Air attack on TF, near Dadjangas at 77,93

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y1 Judy x 10



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AM Bellechasse
xAK President Quezon, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAP Nirvana, Bomb hits 1, on fire



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
6 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

nice move, Rainer flew in some Judies to Zamboanga (Western Mindanao) and launches a surprise strike on a small, empty convoy... damage first looked to be light but both ships sank later due to bomb damage... thatīs the problem with those bypassed little bases, you bomb them now and then but at some point theyīre able to launch a strike again...


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Afternoon Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 122
P-38J Lightning x 8
F4U-1A Corsair x 10


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
249 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)



Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...

Iloilo is a clear hex and recon reports 10000 enemy troops defending the place... this is our primary target to put pressure on the Manila area as itīs within normal range of all our fighters from Iloilo and that place can be built up to level 9... weīre going to land some paras West of it and throw a couple of rgts onto the island to take out the Japanese garisson... expect to meet 100-150 enemy av there but our bombers will do the job for the infantry... attacking here still out some time...


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Afternoon Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 20
TBM-1C Avenger x 18


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
18 x TBM-1C Avenger bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

naval attacking TBM joined the ground strike again... setting: naval attack/rest...

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Afternoon Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 21


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

the usual uncountable piece meal strikes follow the first main strike...

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Afternoon Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb





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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 3/10/2011 10:24:46 AM   
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Morning Air attack on Probolinggo , at 56,105

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 1



Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 16


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed




Aircraft Attacking:
16 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
248th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Probolinggo , at 56,105

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 16


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
16 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet

weīre flying the normal squadron sized piece meal sweeps with each squadron losing a fragment on the way to target... silliness weīre used to from day one of the campaign... what I call silliness is called realism in AE advertisments...


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Morning Air attack on Probolinggo , at 56,105

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 5



Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 22


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
16 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
2 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
2 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
248th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 48 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 144
P-38J Lightning x 36
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 11
P-51B Mustang x 18
F4U-1A Corsair x 50
PV-1 Ventura x 36


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
261 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled



Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 105

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...


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Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 48 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 24
P-51B Mustang x 9
F4U-1A Corsair x 10
PV-1 Ventura x 24


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 69

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...


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Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 48 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 20
PV-1 Ventura x 12


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 66

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 33
P-38J Lightning x 8
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14
P-51B Mustang x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 8
B-25H Mitchell x 46
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 55 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 33
P-38J Lightning x 32
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 14


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking Iloilo ...


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Morning Air attack on 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 10


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 6
B-25H Mitchell x 21


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 41


Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 113

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

we knock out the airfield the Judies were coming from...

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Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed on ground




Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 28

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed on ground




Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Ground combat at Beaufort (66,87)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 666 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 38

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 15

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 15 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Beaufort !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
2nd Fiji Commando Bn /1
1st Fiji Commando Bn /1


paras take an empty base for follow on landings...

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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 3/10/2011 10:27:08 AM   
castor troy


Posts: 14330
Joined: 8/23/2004
From: Austria
Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 01, 44
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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 64
P-38J Lightning x 16
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 24
P-51B Mustang x 26
F4U-1A Corsair x 10
PV-1 Ventura x 48


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 2 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 4 damaged



Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

more and more troops are being brought to Davao and the airforce keeps the base damaged to prevent the enemy from building forts...

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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 20
PV-1 Ventura x 24


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 7 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 12
P-38J Lightning x 22
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 12
P-38J Lightning x 16
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 10


No Allied losses



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 16
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Ground combat at Jesselton (68,86)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 13419 troops, 225 guns, 309 vehicles, Assault Value = 418

Defending force 1967 troops, 0 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Allied adjusted assault: 287

Japanese adjusted defense: 29

Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Jesselton !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
493 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 58 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 28 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 62 (60 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 2


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
33rd Infantry Division
224th USN Base Force
I US Corps
19th RAAF Base Force

Defending units:
37th Ind. Engineer Regiment
22nd JAAF Base Force


the troops that have been brought to Kudat marched to Jesselton and the base falls to 33rd Inf Div... this is going to be our main airfield for long range strikes from Borneo deep into the South China Sea with Hanoi being the base where our Northern bombers are stationed...

we destroy one and a halve dozen enemy aircraft at Jesselton which show up as destroyed A2A... these were KB aircraft that diverted to that base when their carriers got sunk...




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RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting... - 3/10/2011 10:32:12 AM   
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Posts: 14330
Joined: 8/23/2004
From: Austria
Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 02, 44
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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 12
B-25H Mitchell x 21
P-38J Lightning x 32
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 34
P-51B Mustang x 31
PV-1 Ventura x 31


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 4 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 6 damaged



Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 9
F4U-1A Corsair x 20
F6F-3 Hellcat x 20
PV-1 Ventura x 12


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 27
P-38J Lightning x 16
PV-1 Ventura x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 11


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 4 damaged



Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

nothing else but surpression attacks...

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Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 130


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled)



Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 37th Ind. Engr Rgt /1 ...
Also attacking 22nd JAAF Base Force ...


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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 31
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 37th Ind. Engineer Regiment, at 67,87

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 14


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 12


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Cebu , at 80,86

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 51
P-38J Lightning x 6


Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground




Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 70

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Cebu is one of the airfields in the area with a small garisson that could launch suprise airstrikes so I wanted to make sure the airfield is put out of action...

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Morning Air attack on Cebu , at 80,86

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Cebu , at 80,86

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Cebu , at 80,86

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 10


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb


boring replays, boring combat reports...

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Posts: 14330
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Submarine attack near Manado at 75,99

Japanese Ships
SS I-54, hits 16, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Indiana
CLAA Reno
CLAA San Juan
DD Claxton
DD Fletcher
DD Izard
DD Hudson
DD Hazelwood
DD Harrison



SS I-54 is sighted by escort
DD Izard fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hudson attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-54 forced to surface!
DD Hudson firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Hazelwood firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Harrison firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Izard firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

the enemy still sends his subs into our dominated areas occasionally but they mostly end up being sunk... I wouldnīt use such a tactic of infiltration but would rather horde my subs in an area where I would expect the enemy to attack and then send in at least a dozen which perhaps could inflict some damage but sending them one by one usually means losing them one by one without inflicting any real damage... IMO Japanese ASW at this stage of the war is overpowered at least 3:1 compared to real life abilities while I also find Allied ASW to be even better than what it was in real life, but the disparity is by far not as big as with Japanese ASW...

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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 8
B-25H Mitchell x 63
P-38J Lightning x 48
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 20
P-51B Mustang x 13
F4U-1A Corsair x 10
PV-1 Ventura x 43


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 5 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-51B Mustang x 13
PV-1 Ventura x 36


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 9 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 261


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 46
Airbase supply hits 24
Runway hits 335
Port hits 18
Port fuel hits 5
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

huge strike in clear sky gives an excellent result... if weather forecast could be used you could reduce airstrikes by a factor three at least because you wouldnīt fly strikes in thunderstorms all the time that of course donīt give the same results as strikes like the above one...

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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 16


No Allied losses



Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 15


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged



Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 38

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 21
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 10


Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 4 damaged



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

the enemy still uses his transport aircraft a lot, probably for supply flights of cut off bases and to bring out fragments to rebuild units and the ac loss list often reminds me of this...






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Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 8
B-25H Mitchell x 43
P-38J Lightning x 45
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 10
F4U-1A Corsair x 20
PV-1 Ventura x 45


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 2 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 8 damaged



Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 101

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

no airstrikes coming from here for the next couple of weeks...

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Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 21
P-51B Mustang x 13
PV-1 Ventura x 24


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 3 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 90

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 12
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 10
PV-1 Ventura x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 37

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 178
P-38J Lightning x 3
F4U-1A Corsair x 10


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
501 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ...

Iloiloīs garisson takes a punishment...

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Morning Air attack on 30th JAAF Base Force, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 15


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 10


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 30th JAAF Base Force, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 19


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 30th JAAF Base Force, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 12


No Allied losses



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb


otherwise not much to report, should get more interesting again when the enemy responds to my attack on Iloilo...

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