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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/5/2011 6:44:21 PM

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Now...as to Operation Organ Grinder..here are some ideas

1) Fake offensive directed toward Efate (which is just in range for B-17's from Suva). Perhaps even a nosiy buildup at Ndeni with an eye toward attracting attention.

2) A landing at one of the Jap islands near Parmashiro Jima. As this could not have carrier support it could not succeed in the long run but perhaps JJ would be persuaded.

3) New Guinea would appear a quite credible move to JJ but is not far enough as his fighters could redeploy in 1-2 d.

4) Marshalls?

5) Sumatra? Also not really plausible without carriers.

???

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/5/2011 7:17:05 PM

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I think the Lord Admiral would be most perturbed with this arrangement. Was it his lot to have the leash and the tin cup?

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/5/2011 7:21:09 PM

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Prior readers may recall that M&M Enterprises constructed artifical icebergs in the Medium Sundas from coconut husks and copra. Perhaps the technology could be adapted for clouds in some fashion. The problem is that this was WWII(b) (I think) and therefore Mr. Minderbinder will not remember. However, given the proper "alignment of incentives", I feel confident the solution will rise to the surface naturally.

I now have a question for the accumulated wisdom of the forum. There are doubtless some experts on this matter.

Anyway, here it is. So I go to the lab yesterday to add a lab test on a patient after the lab is closed. There is only one tech left, a young chap whom I have never seen before. We discuss the lab test add and he looks at the order and says, "Oh, Dr. Mandrake, do you work out?"

HUH? My Gaydar threat warning indicator starts chirping like crazy. I manage to answer lamely, "Oh..no..not really..I just walk the dogs and work in the yard". Anticipating the next question will be about gladiator movies, I quickly fire up the ECM transmitter and head back to the office..."Thanks, let me know if there is a problem".

Right, so here is the question. Was I misperceiving that exchange?

Interesting. I propose another point of view:

I've known several-rather rotund-friends that have personal hygeine issues. I'm sure it won't surprise you to hear that they are comic book / RPG fans. Nonetheless, one of these friends in particular has an ability to sweat whilest in a thermoneutral enviroment. His body default is to sweat-regardless of ambient temperature.

Perhaps this lab tech was really wondering, "Has this guy been working out? Otherwise, how could he have soaked through his shirt by just standing there handing me a sleeve of orders?" I understand that they have some prescription medications for that sort of thing, Cap'n.

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/5/2011 7:32:18 PM

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Personally, I disdain RPG's. Much more manly to use a Boys Rifle.

As for the fat issue, while not possible to violate the laws of Thermodynamics, I have found that after many years of Yoga training, I have developed the ability to determine where the fat is deposited.

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/5/2011 8:38:44 PM

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Prior readers may recall that M&M Enterprises constructed artifical icebergs in the Medium Sundas from coconut husks and copra. Perhaps the technology could be adapted for clouds in some fashion. The problem is that this was WWII(b) (I think) and therefore Mr. Minderbinder will not remember. However, given the proper "alignment of incentives", I feel confident the solution will rise to the surface naturally.

I now have a question for the accumulated wisdom of the forum. There are doubtless some experts on this matter.

Anyway, here it is. So I go to the lab yesterday to add a lab test on a patient after the lab is closed. There is only one tech left, a young chap whom I have never seen before. We discuss the lab test add and he looks at the order and says, "Oh, Dr. Mandrake, do you work out?"

HUH? My Gaydar threat warning indicator starts chirping like crazy. I manage to answer lamely, "Oh..no..not really..I just walk the dogs and work in the yard". Anticipating the next question will be about gladiator movies, I quickly fire up the ECM transmitter and head back to the office..."Thanks, let me know if there is a problem".

Right, so here is the question. Was I misperceiving that exchange?

Interesting. I propose another point of view:

I've known several-rather rotund-friends that have personal hygeine issues. I'm sure it won't surprise you to hear that they are comic book / RPG fans. Nonetheless, one of these friends in particular has an ability to sweat whilest in a thermoneutral enviroment. His body default is to sweat-regardless of ambient temperature.

Perhaps this lab tech was really wondering, "Has this guy been working out? Otherwise, how could he have soaked through his shirt by just standing there handing me a sleeve of orders?" I understand that they have some prescription medications for that sort of thing, Cap'n.

Another possibility is that the tech is new to the area (Mandrake did say he'd never seen him before) and is just looking for a good place to go himself.

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/5/2011 8:48:36 PM

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Was I misperceiving that exchange?

I think it's a matter of percentages. IMO 70% to 80% chance you got it right.

Right..so what you are saying is the same thing happened to you 10 times..7 times your pereption was well founded...twice it was just very curious small talk....and one time you weren't sure?

Nah, general knowledge of people. Any inquiries that tripped an alarm were, as you demonstrated, dealt with by jamming and evasive maneuvers.

There might have been some talk about you down in the lab (say, especially among his female colleagues) and he thought to ask; maybe some other innocuous reason; or maybe...

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/5/2011 8:49:54 PM

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Much more manly to use a Boys Rifle.

Boyish to use a Boys Rifle. Manly to use a Boyes Rifle.

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/5/2011 9:48:09 PM

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Any inquiries that tripped an alarm were, as you demonstrated, dealt with by jamming and evasive maneuvers.

So, what sort of jamming was in play here? What sort of manuevers did you use in this case?

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/5/2011 10:09:57 PM

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Any inquiries that tripped an alarm were, as you demonstrated, dealt with by jamming and evasive maneuvers.

So, what sort of jamming was in play here? What sort of manuevers did you use in this case?

That jamming bit reminds me of the Ground Zero Mosque controversy. Someone bought a property next door and wanted to open a gay bar to demonstrate the concept of sensitivity. The new owner called out publicly for a name for the new establishment. The name "Ram Emmanuel" was suggested (Rahm Emmanuel was the White House Chief of Staff at the time and the Prez had just called for tolerance)

PS...I thought "Boys Rifle" didn't look right.

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/6/2011 12:02:20 AM

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Any inquiries that tripped an alarm were, as you demonstrated, dealt with by jamming and evasive maneuvers.

So, what sort of jamming was in play here? What sort of manuevers did you use in this case?

Flares, chaff, smoke, covering fire laid down by the wife with a 12 gauge - the usual.

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/7/2011 3:01:11 AM

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Maybe he was new to the area (as you hadn't seen him before) and wanted to know if you were aware of any good gyms around?

Our speculation might be helped by further information.......so........do you work out Mr Mandrake...........

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/11/2011 8:38:11 PM

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Any inquiries that tripped an alarm were, as you demonstrated, dealt with by jamming and evasive maneuvers.

So, what sort of jamming was in play here? What sort of manuevers did you use in this case?

That jamming bit reminds me of the Ground Zero Mosque controversy. Someone bought a property next door and wanted to open a gay bar to demonstrate the concept of sensitivity. The new owner called out publicly for a name for the new establishment. The name "Ram Emmanuel" was suggested (Rahm Emmanuel was the White House Chief of Staff at the time and the Prez had just called for tolerance)

PS...I thought "Boys Rifle" didn't look right.

Was it pirate themed? If so, Rear Bucaneer would be fitting.... no pun intended on the fitting..

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/11/2011 10:52:15 PM

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/12/2011 4:40:48 PM

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Yes...a bit of time dilation, isn't there?

We are creeping along due to enforced absences from AE. I am off to Sun Valley to toss the Elk Hair Caddis and the Pale Morning Dun. You take a couple of days off work and you find how much crap you have put off and need to get done beforehand. I am taking Stalker Girl's laptop and I think I can find a signal. If I am lucky, I will run into AlGore and we can talk about Global Cooling.

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/12/2011 5:13:56 PM

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Meanwhile, Admiral Lord Sprior announces the first forces for Stoat/Weasel/Aardvark/Star-Nosed Mole will begin embarking tomorrow. I have sent all the carriers toward Perth. The two RN carriers have USMC VMF squadrons aboard because somebody spent too much of His Majesty's money on whiz-bang development programs like the Wapiti LR.

59 P-38's have gathered at Timbuktu in Western Oz and, weather permitting, will sweep over Port Headland tomorrow.

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/16/2011 4:19:47 AM

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Yes...a bit of time dilation, isn't there?

I am off to Sun Valley to toss the Elk Hair Caddis and the Pale Morning Dun.

You take a couple of days off work and you find how much crap you have put off and need to get done beforehand. I am taking Stalker Girl's laptop and I think I can find a signal. If I am lucky, I will run into AlGore and we can talk about Global Cooling.

Ah, yes, the first law of practicing Medicine: "For every vacation, there are 2 equal and opposite anti-vacations that both precede and follow every actual vacation."

Enjoy the time off, secure in the knowledge that everything will be handled "cleanly and well" (Hey, it's Sun Valley/Hemingway) while you are gone...

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/16/2011 2:03:51 PM

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In order to not have to fix everything that happened in the five days you were gone, you need to take about 3 weeks off, then there is a window in the middle where somebody else actually has to do the work.

Speaking of Papa Hemingway, I am off to float-fish his favorite creek, Silver Creek, which is a miraculous crystaline creek that springs out of hay fields. ....and coddles astoundingly big brown trout, many of which are smarter than Hemingway was. We will throw Tricos the size of a gnat with barbless hooks and 7x tippet that will break if you sneeze just to make it sporting.

In the PTO, meanwhile, there was bad weather over western oz so the air offensive had to be scrubbed for a day.

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/16/2011 2:18:13 PM

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A fly fisherman eh... the method of the gods..the only true method left.

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/18/2011 3:50:36 AM

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Silver Creek is legendary for its monster trout and the difficulty in catching them. Both are apt. We did a morning float timed for the morning bite (about 9 am). Sure enough about 9:30 the whole stream came alive with fish slurping bugs off the surface. We were armed with the perfect fly imitator and tippet so small you could barely tie anything on... and everyone was experienced (especially the fish). Even so, the 6 of us caught only 4 fish (I was lucky enough to catch two). None were the monster boys.

We went back for the evening hatch and the stream was dead unitl about 9:30 PM well afer the sun went down. Again we had the perfect imitator (which was different from the morning hatch) but I got only one fish on the line who proceded to leap out of the water, shake out his barbless hook and stick his tongue out at me. One of our group tied on a hopper and got several strikes from big fish. We all stood in the middle of the stream in freezing water above our waists sharing a headlamp and lighter to tie on new flies and then the bite stopped. Bah. No wonder the fish get so big.

There was a crazy guy there from Maine who stayed out till 10:30 at night in the wind throwing a "fly" designed to imitate a swimming mouse and landed a 24 inch Brown. One might think he was telling a fish story but he had a picture. It looked like a King Salmon/Northern Pike cross.

Let's see...there was something else...oh yes.

**************Sept 20, 1942**************

Oz: The raid on port Headland went in today...and went PERFECTLY...except that the B-17's from Geraldton with a cruising speed of 225mph and a range to target of 560 mi arrived BEFORE the P-38's from Marazutha (or whatever that town is called...let's just call it Marakesh). The P-38's have a crusing speed over 300mph and had 400 miles to target.

Hmmmm?

There were 78 Tojos in the air! Even so, the B-17's bore in and put a dent in the runway. Then the P-38's arrived and bested the Tojos with no losses. 57 of 58 P-38's From Marakesh arrived over Port Headland (quite impressive even if they did show up late).

The bomber package was 60 Forts (not bad either). Air losses were 4 Forts including operational losses and 10 Tojos.

JJ moved some fighter from Port Headland to Wyndham which they have clearly calculated to be out of P-38 range.

A CM was spotted leaving Port Headland. Anyone want to guess what that means?

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Civilian Contractors - 8/18/2011 3:00:07 PM

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I was wondering how in the Hell JJ managed to get 90% of their fighters in the air over Port Headland? Were they doing that every turn? It seems that would cause substantial airframe issues and pilot fatigue. They had virtually every aircraft in the air even in crappy weather. It is almost as if........

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RE: Civilian Contractors - 8/18/2011 3:14:34 PM

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********In the brush near Snowden Field, Geraldton, Sept. 19, 07:25*******

Young man in nicely pressed jungle fatigues: <pulls down binoculars> That makes 60 Forts. Send this, "LX".

Hirsute man similarly dressed: "LX"? That's it?

Young man in nicely pressed jungle fatigues: "LX". That is all. No sense wasting electrons.

Hirsute man similarly dressed: Electrons?

Young man in nicely pressed jungle fatigues: Yossarian, you luddite SOB, you should have paid attention in physics.

Hirsute man similarly dressed: I did, to..

Young man in nicely pressed jungle fatigues: .... Mary Ellen's breasts. Yossarian you predictable SOB I can see one of your jokes coming from 540 miles away.

Hirsute man similarly dressed: <turns off set> Milo, you crazy SOB, I was wondering why the United States Army Air Force would hire you to tell them when their own bombers are taking off.

Young man in nicely pressed jungle fatigues: They didn't.

Hirsute man similarly dressed: Well, then the Aussies then?

Young man in nicely pressed jungle fatigues: Yossarian, you crazy SOB, sometimes you are slower than a palsied turtle. Let's go get a drink.

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RE: Civilian Contractors - 8/19/2011 1:39:58 PM

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A CM was spotted leaving Port Headland. Anyone want to guess what that means?

ooh, ooh, ask me, ask me!

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RE: Civilian Contractors - 8/19/2011 1:43:11 PM

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Pain at Sian:

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 95340 troops, 803 guns, 154 vehicles, Assault Value = 3496

Defending force 94459 troops, 575 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3203

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese adjusted assault: 7326

Allied adjusted defense: 1916

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: HQ(+)

Japanese ground losses:
13047 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 647 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 559 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 53 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
6129 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 267 disabled
Non Combat: 51 destroyed, 482 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 27 disabled

And again at Henyang:

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 17730 troops, 256 guns, 22 vehicles, Assault Value = 2340

Defending force 56860 troops, 293 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1817

Japanese adjusted assault: 1

Allied adjusted defense: 837

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 837 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2769 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 109 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 157 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled
Vehicles lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/19/2011 2:37:14 PM

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How is it that our LYB commanders are better than their LYB commanders? We had leader advantage in both battles.

I guess it is like Yao Min and basketball. With 500 million to choose from somebody has to be good at it.

I wonder if they sent the A-team to Port Headland?

By ra way, are the Chinese generals still green (in color I mean) in AE?

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/19/2011 3:52:03 PM

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***************Sept. 21, 1942**************

Oz: B-17 raids over Port Headland a bit disorganized today. Again the Forts came in ahead of the P-38's. Intel was wrong over PH. There were 68 Tojos in the air again today. The LYB's mean to die there. So be it.

Air losses over PH:

1 B-17 (operational)
6 Tojo
1 P-38 (operational)

The runway is only 17% damaged. Clearly, they have lots of Korean laborers there.

I moved 30 B-24's from Alice to Marakesh. They will also raid PH today. The remainder of the B-24's at Alice will hit Broome at extreme range. Broome has only 12 fighters and some bombers.

To make some noise elsewhere, some beaufighters swept over Madang (northern New Guinea) and B-17's from Suva hit Noumea. I dont think JJ is fooled.

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/19/2011 4:31:18 PM

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I wonder if they sent the A-team to Port Headland?

Hey now! Let's not have such defeatist talk! The A-team is decidedly AMERICAN, dammit! I pity the fool that suggests the A-team would fight for the LYBs.

Mr. Casem-is that you in the front row?

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/19/2011 4:49:36 PM

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I wonder if they sent the A-team to Port Headland?

Hey now! Let's not have such defeatist talk! The A-team is decidedly AMERICAN, dammit! I pity the fool that suggests the A-team would fight for the LYBs.

Mr. Casem-is that you in the front row?

I WISH I had that much gold. My hair is kinda nappy though, so, yes, I see your point.

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/19/2011 4:51:45 PM

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No, no no-I meant the guy with the gray hair and stogie in his mouth. The one that looks like he just finished off three gin martinis and some abysynthe. That's your guy.

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RE: Lost opportunities.... - 8/19/2011 5:23:03 PM

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All I saw was ATeam...so I showed up...