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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 7:27:12 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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More lost Kates find Canberra under tow. It isn't sporting but considering the big picture.....


Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Exmouth at 53,127

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
B5N2 Kate x 5



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Canberra, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Shaw

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 7:31:24 PM   
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Should we hire a contractor to make all the guard towers?

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 7:42:22 PM   
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Next step Darwin, baby!

Should we hire a contractor to make all the guard towers?


Nahhh! Just let the LYBs open their own sushi restaurants and they won't try to go anywhere ....
Maybe M&M Enterprises could get the exclusive import license for Sapporo beer!

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 7:48:01 PM   
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Great result CM! Here's hoping your BBs escape without too much retribution!

It's been a long AAR so I can't remember all the results you have on LYB capital ships sunk. Could you post a screenshot of the Intel screen on sunk IJN warships, at least CV/BB/CA types?


You havent seent he good part yet. The ball is still arcing upward. Can definitely post some intel screens when I get home..or perhaps Admiral Lord Sprior can if he hasn't had to much Chateau de Whatever.



Allied capital unit losses:







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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 7:49:11 PM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 7:50:20 PM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 8:04:54 PM   
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That was before today's battles. I think these reports lie like hairy dogs.


Ya think?

Kaga was in the fight today as was Nagato

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 8:07:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Given that your Nov 27-28 results show engagements with Nagato and Kaga which are listed on the intel reports as already sunk, your suspicions are confirmed. The question is:
- do the latest combat reports misidentify the ships and you really hit Mutsu and Akagi??
- or were the ships reported sunk previously actually Mutsu and Akagi misidentified as Nagato and Kaga??
- or [more likely] were the intel weenies guilty of wishful thinking in previous estimates of enemy losses?

AHH - fog of war can never allow you to relax and go celebrate!

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 8:34:01 PM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 8:37:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Based on carrier plane "ground losses", I deem it highly likely that Kaga or Akagi was sunk on or around 10-4-42 and that the sister ship is not feeling so good right now.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 9:22:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now we have to get the ground forces resupplied and then pull back the capital units for the Darwin op.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 9:36:21 PM   
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Now we have to get the ground forces resupplied and then pull back the capital units for the Darwin op.


This recent business started as an attempt to "show the carriers". Do you think they spotted them?

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 9:39:35 PM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 9:45:58 PM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 9:56:37 PM   
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until now...that is four torps now.


And this last one is a proper grown up f***-off torpedo, not one of those pansy air dropped ones.


Like the "Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels" reference. . At least I think it is.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 11:42:43 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/17/2012 12:42:07 AM   
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That was before today's battles. I think these reports lie like hairy dogs.


As opposed to hairless dogs?




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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/17/2012 1:07:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mandrake, I noticed that 9 Zeroes and Kates went down on the ground. Do you think that was a CVE or CVL going under?

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/17/2012 2:23:34 AM   
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Mandrake, I noticed that 9 Zeroes and Kates went down on the ground. Do you think that was a CVE or CVL going under?


Hard to know as the Jap strike was already airborne. They might have been damaged planes left in the hanger from previous day's activity. There have also been some Zeroes caught on the ground at PH.


Mouseover shows very large numbers of planes on the ground at PH and Broome. These likely represent carrier aircraft diverted after their decks were afire.

Br. 2nd Div is at 87 disruption although I think the Emperor's boys are hurting too.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/17/2012 7:39:58 AM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/17/2012 1:40:35 PM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/17/2012 1:43:58 PM   
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A much quieter day today, an IJN SCTF sank some of the merchies at PH but others continue to unload. No ground attack today at PH either.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/17/2012 6:42:42 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Vals and Kates at Broome. Doubtless some of these are from the carriers.

At this time I would like to publicly thank the Boeing Aircraft Company


Morning Air attack on Broome , at 62,127

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 13


Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 4 destroyed on ground
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 4 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 8

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/17/2012 6:44:49 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Lots of Jap fighters on CAP over PH. Out P-38's on LRCAP are going to get beat up.


Morning Air attack on 66th Infantry Group , at 57,129 (Port Hedland)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3



Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 3
Bolingbroke IV x 6
B-17E Fortress x 22


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Bolingbroke IV: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
241 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/17/2012 6:47:32 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		The waters around PH are still dangerous for Allied ships. I don't know if these Kates are from Broome or a carrier.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Hedland at 57,129

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 31
A6M3 Zero x 12
B5N2 Kate x 15



Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 2
P-38G Lightning x 1


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-38F Lightning: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CL Adelaide, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Dale



Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/17/2012 6:51:27 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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After getting pounded by gunfire, a Jap sub puts a torp in her.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Port Hedland at 57,128, Range 26,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Atago, Shell hits 1
CA Haguro, Shell hits 1
DD Akizuki
DD Makinami
DD Arashio
DD Natsugumo
DD Murasame

Allied Ships
DD Aaron Ward, Shell hits 17, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Capillo, Shell hits 20, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Aldinga, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
xAK Barwon, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/17/2012 6:53:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Also, the crippled HMS Decoy gets hit by a sub but the damaged BB's manage to evade the subs so far.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/18/2012 3:14:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

11:30 Nov 27....

A fresh Nagato and Furutaka do serious damage but Nagato is dinged up as well.


Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Hedland at 57,129, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1
CL Kuma
DD Hibiki
DD Shikinami
DD Asagiri, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
DD Sagiri, Shell hits 3, on fire

Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 11, heavy fires
BB Idaho, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Revenge, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Mahan, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Bulmer, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Jupiter
DD Norman, Shell hits 2, heavy fires




Awesome victory, Cap , but I see the good ship Hibiki emerged unscathed.

Somehow I bet Cuttlefish has a small smile on his face right about now...

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/18/2012 8:33:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Also, the crippled HMS Decoy gets hit by a sub but the damaged BB's manage to evade the subs so far.


You know, were I a British sailor, I would not be comfortable with a posting to HMS Decoy... especially with you two in charge!

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/18/2012 9:51:27 AM   
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especially with you two in charge


You say it like it's a bad thing.

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