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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/4/2012 8:21:04 PM

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Moving forward is only a good idea if one is pointed in the right direction. If you aren't sure I would strongly endorse apathy and 3 hr. lunch breaks.

Anybody remember the General's name that when asked about retreating in Korea, modded the old Marine line...
"Retreat? Hell, we're just attacking in a different direction!"

Major General Oliver P. Smith, commanding the 1st Marine Division.

ETA: He's also being credited with the quote below. It's debated though if it really was him or somebody else.

"Sir! We're surrounded!!"
"Excellent! Now we can attack in any direction"

Wonder if he's the son of Gen. Holland (Howlin' Mad) Smith of WWII (A) fame?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/4/2012 9:01:50 PM

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Having fun. Glad no-one is here? �I avoid Brits like the plague on holiday�?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/4/2012 9:12:47 PM

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Found this today:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmr-bank-tof/4872340877/?q=fort carre collioure

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/4/2012 9:31:06 PM

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Having fun. Glad no-one is here? �I avoid Brits like the plague on holiday�?

Cool, you should take a side trip to Corunna

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/4/2012 9:32:32 PM

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Having fun. Glad no-one is here? �I avoid Brits like the plague on holiday�?

Cool, you should take a side trip to Corunna

I tried to talk the memsahb into a trip to Toulon but she didnt want to go that far to see the petit and grand rades. So it's back to the beach...

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/4/2012 9:35:19 PM

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Kaga and Soryu are missing from that list.

Right, but what about all the seaplane tenders convertible to CV's in Scenario 2?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/4/2012 9:39:31 PM

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Having fun. Glad no-one is here? �I avoid Brits like the plague on holiday�?

Cool, you should take a side trip to Corunna

I tried to talk the memsahb into a trip to Toulon but she didnt want to go that far to see the petit and grand rades. So it's back to the beach...

Well, maybe you could trade for a couple of hours of shopping.....ah...never mind. Stupid suggestion.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/4/2012 9:45:15 PM

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I want to drive home over this though: http://www.leviaducdemillau.com/en_index.php#/accueil/

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/4/2012 10:22:04 PM

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I want to drive home over this though: http://www.leviaducdemillau.com/en_index.php#/accueil/

Elegant bridge. Looks like they hired an Anglo architect. Are you chaps going to share the bridge like the carriers?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/4/2012 11:25:17 PM

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Hmmm -- that Wikipedia article will have to be updated to reflect that fact that this area was graced with a visit from Admiral Lord Sprior, on leave from his duties in Malaya, in 2012. I bet the traffic there is a darn sight better than in London these days.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/4/2012 11:40:13 PM

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Elegant bridge. Looks like they hired an Anglo architect. Are you chaps going to share the bridge like the carriers?

Sharing carriers is rarer than a....

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/5/2012 10:52:28 AM

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They let me drive on it if I pay enough. Is that the same?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/5/2012 1:46:51 PM

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They let me drive on it if I pay enough. Is that the same?

No, thats more like Capitalism.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/5/2012 4:30:30 PM

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I had a dream I went crazy in the GI lab while under sedation, punched out the doc and nurses and then went running around naked until that cop from UC Davis Tazered me. Here is my take. The running around naked part is conducting amphibious landings without the carriers and the cop from UC Davis is the Jap carriers. It is therefore a cautionary tale.

I had a plan to sing "Oh sweet mystery of life at last I found you" when they inserted the scope but they stuck a bite block in my mouth and gave me a "shed load" of Versed. Killjoys. Get this, the doc gives all the keepsake photos from the study to Stalker Girl because I was still looped and now she is threatening to post her favorite which is a shot, from the inside, of the scope ascending from the nether regions and the camera making a U-turn, pointing South (true), with the scope tightly gripped, if you will. I think he (the doc) was really proud of the shot like it was a picture of the rare snow leopard in the wild or something. Stalker Girl was giggling like a 5 year old when she showed me. "This is your ****, eheheheheheh".

Thank God we dont have a scanner that works.

Anyway, I fear I may have overshared. Back to the war. Air losses from the 27th. The ground losses are from Koepang but there are very heavy Tojos losses, from the LYB sweep over Namlea, from the P-38 sweep over Koepang and from LRCAP duels over Burma.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/5/2012 5:11:02 PM

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Doing a little geneaology yesterday. I found my dad's great grandfather, Zemerri Mandrake, born in 1846 in the Indiana Territory. The Mandrake side goes dark there except for the knowledge that his father was born in Kentuckey. I think I found one of Zemerri's cousins, Pinkney Mandrake, who is described in the 1860 census as "Idiot", age 22, living at parents home. The last column of the 1860 census is "Whether deaf, dumb, blind, insane, idiot, pauper or convict"

Failure to launch, 1860 style.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/5/2012 7:06:08 PM

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Thought I learned my lesson in here......wheres my monitor wipes?!?!

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/5/2012 8:53:43 PM

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***************Jan 27, 1943(c)************

Namlea: I'm surprised JJ tried the same sweep attack at Namlea. This appears to be more to our favor. Something must have delayed the carriers as they were ordered to stand off 40 mi. S of Namlea? The CAP is all land based.

Morning Air attack on Namlea , at 76,108

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 28

Allied aircraft
P-40B Warhawk x 13
P-40K Warhawk x 20
F4U-1 Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

A Marine Regt continues to disembark. The JJ surface group North of Namlea was wrecked last turn and the survivors likely withdrew. Again there is no anti-shipping attack.

Ternate: F4F recon squadron moved to Boela to recon Ternate. If it is empty, the always cheerful 503rd PIR will land tomorrow.

Kendari: The B-24's from Darwin switched targets and found Kendari with no CAP (they were busy sweeping over Namlea)

Morning Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 62

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 22
Airbase supply hits 20
Runway hits 79

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/5/2012 9:13:16 PM

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Looks like Ternate has aircraft. Let's hope they are just recon and there are just ground support guys in diapers as a garrison.

The PB4Y's don't seem to want to fly over Manado for 3 days in a row? Hmmm?

More transports at Lunga. I think JJ is pulling ground troops back having realized the effort is not in the Solomons.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/5/2012 9:40:53 PM

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**************Hamilton Township, Sullivan County, Indiana, June 24, 1856***********

Adoniah Mandrake: <Fetching water. He calls out to his son> Pinkney, you got that plow hitched yet?

Pinkney: Yes, father. <the father turns to see Pinkney standing behind the plow with the mule> PUSH MULE! PUSH!

Adoniah Mandrake: Holy Mary and the Sweet Baby Jesus!

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/5/2012 9:47:46 PM

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Ternate: F4F recon squadron moved to Boela to recon Ternate. If it is empty, the always cheerful 503rd PIR will land tomorrow.

Have u guys considered bestowing the Presidential unit citation award on 503rd PIR? seems they have earned it.

Rasmus

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/5/2012 9:50:21 PM

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**************Hamilton Township, Sullivan County, Indiana, Sept. 1, 1860(a)***********

Census taker: Is there anyone in the household you would cassify as deef?

Adoniah Mandrake: No sir.

Census taker: Is there anyone in the household you would cassify as dumb?

Adoniah Mandrake: No sir.

Census taker: Is there anyone in the household you would cassify as blind?

Adoniah Mandrake: Well, Malvina could use some of them bifocals, but no, not blind I'd say.

Census taker: Is there anyone in the household you would cassify as isane?

Adoniah Mandrake: I reckon not.

Census taker: Perhaps i'll just go through the rest quickly?

Adoniah Mandrake: As you wish.

Census taker: Is there anyone in the household you would cassify as a convict?

Adoniah Mandrake: umm <shakes head no>

Census taker: A pauper?

Adoniah Mandrake: umm <shakes head no>

Census taker: An idiot?

Adoniah Mandrake: Wait, hold on, sir. Can you define "idiot"?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/5/2012 10:03:28 PM

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Ternate: F4F recon squadron moved to Boela to recon Ternate. If it is empty, the always cheerful 503rd PIR will land tomorrow.

Have u guys considered bestowing the Presidential unit citation award on 503rd PIR? seems they have earned it.

Rasmus

Yes, quite. As I recall, 3 combat jumps in less than a month, maybe 3 weeks. The first one at Dobo resulted in the loss of most of the Regiment. Dobo, Saumlaki and Boela. They probably need a character in the story?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/5/2012 10:09:23 PM

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**************Hamilton Township, Sullivan County, Indiana, Sept. 1, 1860(a)***********

Census taker: Is there anyone in the household you would cassify as deef?

Adoniah Mandrake: No sir.

Census taker: Is there anyone in the household you would cassify as dumb?

Adoniah Mandrake: No sir.

Census taker: Is there anyone in the household you would cassify as blind?

Adoniah Mandrake: Well, Malvina could use some of them bifocals, but no, not blind I'd say.

Census taker: Is there anyone in the household you would cassify as isane?

Adoniah Mandrake: I reckon not.

Census taker: Perhaps i'll just go through the rest quickly?

Adoniah Mandrake: As you wish.

Census taker: Is there anyone in the household you would cassify as a convict?

Adoniah Mandrake: umm <shakes head no>

Census taker: A pauper?

Adoniah Mandrake: umm <shakes head no>

Census taker: An idiot?

Adoniah Mandrake: Wait, hold on, sir. Can you define "idiot"?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/5/2012 10:22:12 PM

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Oh sweet Jesus! You don't think. The Mandrake side certainly links back through Kentucky...which isn't that far from.....

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/6/2012 1:51:40 AM

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WEST BY GOD VIRGINIA!!!!!!!!

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/6/2012 2:05:25 AM

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In all fairness, I have vacationed in Berkley Springs. What I saw there was some of the finest wild life in the east.

I would go on to say that there was in fact a dentist in town (I know I looked) and a spa which was at first I was somewhat apprehensive about visiting, but as it was part of the "birthday weekend" I induldged. You might say I was a bit rougher on the beaver than Ward would have liked but the youg'un providing the service was, as Dan might say, quite the looker. I would put it in the clear something like HORY CRIPES

thats some fine breeding.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/6/2012 10:07:33 AM

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Meanwhile in China:

Morning Air attack on 91st Chinese Corps, at 77,43 , near Chungking

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 17
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 50
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 3

Allied aircraft
I-15-III x 2
P-66 Vanguard x 7
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 5 destroyed, 11 damaged
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 2 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

And

Morning Air attack on 1st New Chinese Corps, at 77,43 , near Chungking

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 6

Allied aircraft
I-15-III x 1
P-66 Vanguard x 4
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/6/2012 10:14:42 AM

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And in Burma:

Morning Air attack on 14th Tank Regiment, at 61,42 , near Katha

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 14

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 5
Hurricane IIc Trop x 6
Liberator II x 6
DB-7B x 9
P-40K Warhawk x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed

And then

Morning Air attack on 14th Tank Regiment, at 61,42 , near Katha

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2

Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 11
Liberator II x 15
Wellington Ic x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 2 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/6/2012 10:16:47 AM

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Elsewhere in China our troops repulse JJs attack:

Ground combat at 77,50 (near Chihkiang)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3489 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 114

Defending force 2675 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 88

Japanese adjusted assault: 21

Allied adjusted defense: 43

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment

Defending units:
46th Chinese Corps

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/6/2012 2:58:08 PM

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Almost Heaven, West Virginia