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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/6/2013 9:22:25 PM   
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Interesting idea presented on National People's Radio this morning...."The IKEA effect". The notion is, simply, that the act of building something yourself (like an IKEA coffee table) changes your perception about the quality or value of the object. In other words, even if one of the legs is a bit wiggly because you left out a washer, in your mind it still seems like a fine piece of Quaker furniture with hand chiseled dovetails.

So here is my question, does this work for an AE campaign? Let's say you lose 4 CV and 200 Corsairs, 3 BB's, 8 CA's, 12 DD's, 28 APA's and a division of Marines but you do manage to capture Kwajalein. Does the "IKEA effect" cause you to perceive this as a victory?


Maybe not quite a victory, but you would be more proud of all that death and destruction than if you just paid Milo and M&M Enterprises to turn over the island. Sort of like my bathroom tiling project.

In this case there are two Admirals, so it might be more like wallpapering a room with your wife ....

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/6/2013 9:33:46 PM   
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Interesting idea presented on National People's Radio this morning...."The IKEA effect". The notion is, simply, that the act of building something yourself (like an IKEA coffee table) changes your perception about the quality or value of the object. In other words, even if one of the legs is a bit wiggly because you left out a washer, in your mind it still seems like a fine piece of Quaker furniture with hand chiseled dovetails.

So here is my question, does this work for an AE campaign? Let's say you lose 4 CV and 200 Corsairs, 3 BB's, 8 CA's, 12 DD's, 28 APA's and a division of Marines but you do manage to capture Kwajalein. Does the "IKEA effect" cause you to perceive this as a victory?


Maybe not quite a victory, but you would be more proud of all that death and destruction than if you just paid Milo and M&M Enterprises to turn over the island. Sort of like my bathroom tiling project.

In this case there are two Admirals, so it might be more like wallpapering a room with your wife ....


There are some jobs that could not ever engender an IKEA effect...like cleaning out the clogged kitchen sink

Here I am underneath the sink and have an aluminum pan under the goose neck to collect the foul water as I loosen the pipes...but the pan is starting to fill so I call SG over to transfer some of the water to the other sink. I ladle it out with a glass and pass it up to her. This works pretty well until she spills about half a glass of the **** on my head and starts laughing....


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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/6/2013 11:47:34 PM   
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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/7/2013 12:07:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		For Pete's sake, man! You're a physician! A man of science and healing! A gifted shaman of the healing arts! This manual labor is so unbecoming. Aren't you supposed to be sipping some martini or other whilest watching some plumber do this?

Aren't they going to revoke your country club membership for this?

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/7/2013 12:20:28 AM   
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Besides, he's a Fleet Admiral. They have 'people' to handle those things.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/7/2013 2:25:57 PM   
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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/7/2013 4:49:16 PM   
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I saw one of these trucks on the highway this morning and had to think of this AAR...




Probably crated up Corsairs for Peru.....or maybe winterized quonset huts.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/7/2013 5:43:17 PM   
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At least she didn't think you were handing her a cocktail....Wasn't it nice when the Mayan took care of stuff like that for you? I mean the sink, not the cocktail.


The Mayan was not very good with tools...well maybe an iron but that's about it. She once tried to lay down some contact paper on my shelves. It looked like the work had been done by Stevie Wonder on an acid trip. Every 4 months or so I would have to buy a new vacuum because she would drag the thing around by the hose or run over the cord and chew up the insulation. I think she also purposely tried to hide my tools. I lost track of how many allen wrench sets I have. Every once in a while I find one behind some 3 year old skin lotion.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/8/2013 6:51:40 PM   
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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/8/2013 7:24:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Memsahib: Honey, will you go to the bedroom and fetch my teal hoodie?
Me (not paying attention: Yes honey.

<Arrives in bedroom and thinks: Teal? what the hell is teal?

Me: Honey is it the green one?

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/8/2013 10:57:24 PM   
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Memsahib: Honey, will you go to the bedroom and fetch my teal hoodie?
Me (not paying attention: Yes honey.

<Arrives in bedroom and thinks: Teal? what the hell is teal?

Me: Honey is it the green one?


Very commendable. One musn't know too many colors because..well...you know...people will talk.

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RE: The Hood - 2/8/2013 11:09:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		FAM: <reading my own patient note dictated using Dragon> ...the patient denies any contact with katal on his grandfather's farm..."

What the Hell? I had meant "cattle" of course because I was worried about Brucellosis, but what the Hell is a "katal".

It turns it is a new international unit for rate of catalysis, the amount of enzyme that will catalyze one mole of substrate per second. Who knew?

Dragon has a way to go.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/8/2013 11:30:20 PM   
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Memsahib: Honey, will you go to the bedroom and fetch my teal hoodie?
Me (not paying attention: Yes honey.

<Arrives in bedroom and thinks: Teal? what the hell is teal?

Me: Honey is it the green one?


Very commendable. One musn't know too many colors because..well...you know...people will talk.


But in this case, knowing what teal looks like is OK. A Teal is a duck, and the colour is named for its wing markings. Duck hunting is usually not cause for gossip or passive/agressive mocking. At least, I would hesitate to make fun of anyone who may have a shotgun in the truck!

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RE: The Hood - 2/9/2013 3:42:30 AM   
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FAM: <reading my own patient note dictated using Dragon> ...the patient denies any contact with katal on his grandfather's farm..."

What the Hell? I had meant "cattle" of course because I was worried about Brucellosis, but what the Hell is a "katal".

It turns it is a new international unit for rate of catalysis, the amount of enzyme that will catalyze one mole of substrate per second. Who knew?

Dragon has a way to go.

Wow, thanks! I have a couple of friends who are biochemists. I'm going to practice using that in a sentence for their next visit.

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RE: The Hood - 2/9/2013 4:35:04 PM   
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Wow, thanks! I have a couple of friends who are biochemists. I'm going to practice using that in a sentence for their next visit.



Try this at dinner to impress:

"Please pass me a couple of Katal of Adolph's Meat Tenderizer."

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RE: The Hood - 2/9/2013 4:39:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		SG's computer has mad cow disease or something. I am waiting for Matirx to approve a re-download of AE. Turns out I did register my copy...twice. The Matrix guys are probably buried under 3 feet of snow but maybe somebody has a generator or a home fusion reactor.

I should have done this before.

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RE: The Hood - 2/9/2013 5:32:02 PM   
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Wow, thanks! I have a couple of friends who are biochemists. I'm going to practice using that in a sentence for their next visit.



Try this at dinner to impress:

"Please pass me a couple of Katal of Adolph's Meat Tenderizer."




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RE: The Hood - 2/9/2013 5:38:51 PM   
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SG's computer has mad cow disease or something. I am waiting for Matirx to approve a re-download of AE. Turns out I did register my copy...twice. The Matrix guys are probably buried under 3 feet of snow but maybe somebody has a generator or a home fusion reactor.

I should have done this before.

- Go to Costco.
- Buy the package of USB-key flash drives.
- Put a copy of AE on each one.
- Create a text file on each one with your AE serial number in it.
- Separately wrap each of them in 3 watertight bags (refer to Lucifer's Hammer).
- Store them in different locations (one buried in yard, one in nearest septic tank, one at Big B's house, etc.).
- Learn how to prepare insulin from live pigs (refer to Lucifer's Hammer).
- Remember where you put them.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/9/2013 5:43:14 PM   
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RE: The Hood - 2/9/2013 6:34:54 PM   
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Remember where you put them.


So:

Go to Costco.
- Buy the package of USB-key flash drives.
- Create a text file on each one with the location of the other USB flash drives
- Separately wrap each of them in 3 watertight bags (refer to Lucifer's Hammer).
- Store them in different locations (one buried in yard, one in nearest septic tank, one at Big B's house, etc.).
- Learn how to prepare insulin from live pigs (refer to Lucifer's Hammer).
- Remember where you put them.


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RE: The Hood - 2/9/2013 9:46:29 PM   
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The thing worked fantastic!


Then I lost the button part.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/9/2013 10:09:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		JJ are really getting annoying with their small surface raiders. On this fine day there is one inbound East of Busuanga. This group can almost certainly reach San Jose tonight and possibly even Cagayan. I judge San Jose the likely target. I am sending out Oakland and 5 DD from Cagayan. If this turns out to be Haruna it might go badly. Juneau and 4 DD will backcover from Jolo. Transports headed Cagayan will loiter near Cotobato and the transports at Cagayn are all now disbanded. PT boats and small surface groups will cover the approaches. Minelayers are still South of Ternate. JJ also has some transports inbound East of Luzon.




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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/9/2013 10:42:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I forgot to mention that I ran this plan through the Siri Tzu app on my I-phone 5.


Here is what Siri said:

"This plan is impossibly complicated. You have inadequate recon. You are dividing your forces in the face of a possibly superior enemy and you spelled "Cotabato" wrong again, idiot."

Ouch. That is harsh

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/9/2013 10:58:30 PM   
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Recon over Munda today. Maybe they will reinforce it.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/9/2013 11:21:13 PM   
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Pennslyvania was damaged in the 23rd Naval Battle of Port Hedrand. She made it safely past the subs to Caranrvon and then Geraldton where she was partly repaired with 412 tons of Bondo. She was then moved to Perth for shoring up and welding, new bathroom curtains and that kind of thing. Eventually, she was deemded seaworthy and sent on the South Africa for yard work. Unfortunately, some staff hack did not understand what the fuel numbers meant and she ran out of fuel and began her long tow to South Africa thanks to kindly Nazi-hating sea turtles.This was estimated to take 2 months. Admiral King was pissed and ordered her back to Diego Garcia for fuel, at which point the fuel numbers rose to SIX digits (but still red). Two weeks later she popped back onto the map near Socotra (or whatever you call that island near the Horn of Africa) with green fuel numbers! Halleluya!!

She has now been ordered to Colombo before anything else happens.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/10/2013 12:01:54 AM   
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RE: The Hood - 2/10/2013 5:48:15 AM   
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RE: The Hood - 2/10/2013 6:13:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you are an Allied sailor you want to be on a ship that begins with "Z". Only 2 sunk in all Allied navies for the entire WWII(c)

If you an Austrailian sailor you NEVER EVER want to go anywhere near anything called Yarra.

First she gets sunk near Port Hedrand 2 weeks into the war so they build another and SHE gets sunk 2 1/2 weeks later.




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RE: The Hood - 2/10/2013 6:17:38 AM   
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RE: The Hood - 2/10/2013 6:24:56 AM   
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