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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/9/2010 7:43:36 PM

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PS...look closely at Admiral Lord Sprior's banner. There is an interloper at Kew Gardens

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/9/2010 8:37:50 PM

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/10/2010 10:41:54 PM

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The B-17 idea on Suva.....not so good.

Putting up a pitiable CAP over Suva.....good.

Yamashiro has been transfered from the DEI.

Akagi is reported at Truk. Who knows.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/10/2010 11:26:37 PM

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Kandavu has, as I recall, a level 1 port adn a 0/4 airfield potential. We actually had a Bn of infantry II/103rd prepping for Kandavu but the transports were run off by the attack on Fiji.

Evidently they mean to put an airfield there and make things miserable for Fiji. This is what II/103rd was supposed to prevent. Oh well.

We will have to do something about that. I have a Marine Para Bn headed for Samoa but it will be a while.

The carriers made poor progress as the DD's were thristy.

I discovered I could accelerate arrival of aircraft from Wasp/Yorktown and the RN carriers South of Pearl. Yorktown is closest to the action. She flew off VT-6 and VT-8 (full squadrons with TBF's) to Samoa. She flew off one Squadron of SBD's and a Marine F4F squadron to Canton (they can reach Samoa next turn). Onto the now nearly empty Yorktown, I flew in a TBF squadron which was embarked on the RN carrier and 30 SBD's from Wasp. By the 21st We should have 3 sqdrn TBF, 3 sqdrn SBD and 18 F4F's at Samoa. This is sufficient to fully outfit the carriers South of Fiji.

I gave up on the idea of hoisting P-39's onto the deck of Enterprise at Wellington and having them fly off to Fiji later. This kind of thing WAS done historically (Ranger ferrying aircraft to Africa) but, alas, the game engine does not permit it. Instead, Enterprise will catch up to the other carriers and take aircraft from Samoa. A squadron of crated P-39's is unloading at Samoa today. When they have their tires inflated and chains put on, they can fly to Fiji.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 12:17:39 AM

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I gave up on the idea of hoisting P-39's onto the deck of Enterprise at Wellington and having them fly off to Fiji later. This kind of thing WAS done historically (Ranger ferrying aircraft to Africa) but, alas, the game engine does not permit it. Instead, Enterprise will catch up to the other carriers and take aircraft from Samoa. A squadron of crated P-39's is unloading at Samoa today. When they have their tires inflated and chains put on, they can fly to Fiji.

You actually can do this - I flew some (regular, c-but-not-sea) Hurricanes off a carrier just a couple of weeks ago - but the catch is that they take up extra space on the ship (either 10 'spots' per aircraft or a flat rate of 100, I can't remember offhand) so you only really get one land-based squadron at a time. They also load up as under maintenance, so it can take a few days to actually get them all off if you're only shipping them a short distance.

e: though they presumably just count as deckload, as you can keep a full complement of carrier aircraft on board (though not flying) at the same time - they won't displace anything, just show up as 190/90 or whatever load.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 12:54:33 AM

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I gave up on the idea of hoisting P-39's onto the deck of Enterprise at Wellington and having them fly off to Fiji later. This kind of thing WAS done historically (Ranger ferrying aircraft to Africa) but, alas, the game engine does not permit it. Instead, Enterprise will catch up to the other carriers and take aircraft from Samoa. A squadron of crated P-39's is unloading at Samoa today. When they have their tires inflated and chains put on, they can fly to Fiji.

You actually can do this - I flew some (regular, c-but-not-sea) Hurricanes off a carrier just a couple of weeks ago - but the catch is that they take up extra space on the ship (either 10 'spots' per aircraft or a flat rate of 100, I can't remember offhand) so you only really get one land-based squadron at a time. They also load up as under maintenance, so it can take a few days to actually get them all off if you're only shipping them a short distance.

e: though they presumably just count as deckload, as you can keep a full complement of carrier aircraft on board (though not flying) at the same time - they won't displace anything, just show up as 190/90 or whatever load.

I tried "transfer to docked ship" on an active P-39 squadron of 19 planes onto the completely empty Enterpise at dockside. They loaded but all 19 planes were disabled. Are you saying they will repair and then can be flown off?

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 1:11:00 AM

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I tried "transfer to docked ship" on an active P-39 squadron of 19 planes onto the completely empty Enterpise at dockside. They loaded but all 19 planes were disabled. Are you saying they will repair and then can be flown off?

Yep - takes a day or two (I guess a carrier counts as a full set of aviation support, so not too long for fighters, generally - the last of my Hurris took 4 days, most were off after 2) but they'll repair and be flyable. As mentioned the carrier doesn't have to be empty, it just won't be able to run flight ops while the landplanes are hogging the deck.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 4:45:02 AM

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So many possibilities for agressor to set up airfields on the islands you haven't got the troops to garrison- but at least you can try and make his life hell while he's getting his act together.

Any thoughts of setting up a spoiler attack elsewhere to divide his attention.

Daniel

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 5:15:09 AM

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I am just wondering where are your Med Bombers? B-26's etc. Did they get whacked or something? Maybe move some bombers from PH with Palmyra(sp)/Pago Pago route?

One thing I will say is your opponents are good they have really locked Fiji down but I don't think they can break your Marine/Army team in Nadi anytime soon. Assuming those other Regiments make it soon.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 5:49:53 AM

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So many possibilities for agressor to set up airfields on the islands you haven't got the troops to garrison- but at least you can try and make his life hell while he's getting his act together.

Any thoughts of setting up a spoiler attack elsewhere to divide his attention.

Daniel

In order for that to work, the threat would have to be greater than the loss of 50,000 troops (32K ashore already...50K is my guess) on Fiji. Perhaps getting into their supply stream from Truk/Rabaul might work but I doubt it. New Scotland is a serious bastion now.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 5:54:28 AM

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I am just wondering where are your Med Bombers? B-26's etc. Did they get whacked or something? Maybe move some bombers from PH with Palmyra(sp)/Pago Pago route?

One thing I will say is your opponents are good they have really locked Fiji down but I don't think they can break your Marine/Army team in Nadi anytime soon. Assuming those other Regiments make it soon.

13 B-26's flew into Nadi today from Auckland. We have more but they run the risk of getting crushed on the ground from the bombardment shuttles they have going and from air attacks. I moved the small number of fighters to Nadi today, hoping they will turn their attention on Suva airfield today. If they end up where the Zeroes are, they are dead. My expedition of B-17's to Suva came to naught.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 9:56:09 AM

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Any thoughts of setting up a spoiler attack elsewhere to divide his attention.

In order for that to work, the threat would have to be greater than the loss of 50,000 troops (32K ashore already...50K is my guess) on Fiji. Perhaps getting into their supply stream from Truk/Rabaul might work but I doubt it. New Scotland is a serious bastion now.

What house rules do you have in place regarding strategic bombardment? Would it be feasible at this stage to take one of the islands close to Palemburg- or look like you're preparing to e.g. seize Cocos or Christmas Island.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 3:51:22 PM

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Any thoughts of setting up a spoiler attack elsewhere to divide his attention.

In order for that to work, the threat would have to be greater than the loss of 50,000 troops (32K ashore already...50K is my guess) on Fiji. Perhaps getting into their supply stream from Truk/Rabaul might work but I doubt it. New Scotland is a serious bastion now.

What house rules do you have in place regarding strategic bombardment? Would it be feasible at this stage to take one of the islands close to Palemburg- or look like you're preparing to e.g. seize Cocos or Christmas Island.

Daniel

We still own some West of Sumatra.

JJ has been a bit sloppy in this regard. Yamashiro has been transfered to the South Pacific. I wouldn't be surprised if they sent Kaga and Zuiho too.

Siberoet has a level one port but is beyond fighter escort range (except for Beaufighters and P-38's.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 4:06:01 PM

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Jap air losses. I wonder how many balsa wood Nells they have left. I also wonder if the picture of the Emperor on the briefing room wall is keeping up morale for the poor bastards.

I sent an Enigneer Aviation Bn. from Nadi to Suva to help repair the airfield. There are now 11 disabled B-17's on the ground at Suva, this without even flying a mission. Something will get broken today which will be good news for the Boeing Aircraft Company.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 4:18:02 PM

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Defenders of Nadi (less engineers)

Most of the infantry units are understrength after their evacuation from La Foa. 147th Reg is full strength. All are rested and in good morale state. 193rd Tank Bn is at 35% strength (20 Stuarts). 2nd Marine Def Bn just arrived and is at full strength.

Jap counterbattery fire is non-existant. They may be severely disrupted or low on morale as they have some serious artillery with them.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 4:32:01 PM

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It is beginning to look like the LYB's didn't bring enough to the party....maybe no need to execute Plan Salsa just yet.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 4:37:40 PM

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Question: When you see enemy assault strength on a bombardment combat report like that is that unadjusted assault strength? And why is the target strength in numbers only about 60% of the mouseover figure?

17k vs 31K

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 5:18:00 PM

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Question: When you see enemy assault strength on a bombardment combat report like that is that unadjusted assault strength?

Yes. And if there's any FOW there, I don't think it's much. (You can see that in multi-day battles where the reported AV is consistent day to day, modulated by losses. You can also see that by checking your own AV)

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And why is the target strength in numbers only about 60% of the mouseover figure?

Good question. The standard answer is FOW. I prefer to think of it like this: Recon is not very effective, as only a few planes are flying over a very large hex and can't see everything. But if you have an artillery bombardment, every 10th shell is a camera-loaded drone. This not only allows a more accurate count of the enemy, but gets close enough to inventory all of the shoulder patches seen, so that the enemy formations may be identified.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 5:47:21 PM

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I don't know for sure, but maybe the CR of the bombardment only shows defending combat troops, and not support troops.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 8:14:34 PM

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I don't know for sure, but maybe the CR of the bombardment only shows defending combat troops, and not support troops. �

Well, here's one example comparing actual and reported.
Troops: 9.8K combat + 19.2K second line = 29K, reported as 24K (15-20% low)
Guns: 451 reported as 451, exact.
Vehicles: 499 reported as 512 vehicles, pretty much right on.
AV: 882 reported as 869, pretty much right on.

If I were to guess, I would guess the troops reported in the CR don't include disabled squads.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/11/2010 8:43:20 PM

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I don't know for sure, but maybe the CR of the bombardment only shows defending combat troops, and not support troops. �

Well, here's one example comparing actual and reported.
Troops: 9.8K combat + 19.2K second line = 29K, reported as 24K (15-20% low)
Guns: 451 reported as 451, exact.
Vehicles: 499 reported as 512 vehicles, pretty much right on.
AV: 882 reported as 869, pretty much right on.

If I were to guess, I would guess the troops reported in the CR don't include disabled squads.

At least in regular WITP (and i strongly suspect the same for AE), the combat results only show the troops that actually participated in combat... as you disable squads, the discrepancy increases.

Non-combat troops aren't participating in an assault, but will show up when they are defending (assuming they aren't disabled.)

EDIT: Looking at the numbers above, it appears that a large number of IJ troops are disabled, i'd guess.

CRUSH THEM!!!

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/12/2010 5:14:41 AM

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It is beginning to look like the LYB's didn't bring enough to the party....maybe no need to execute Plan Salsa just yet.

LOL wait French Tickler things.... No use?

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/12/2010 5:15:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: USS America

I don't know for sure, but maybe the CR of the bombardment only shows defending combat troops, and not support troops. �

Well, here's one example comparing actual and reported.
Troops: 9.8K combat + 19.2K second line = 29K, reported as 24K (15-20% low)
Guns: 451 reported as 451, exact.
Vehicles: 499 reported as 512 vehicles, pretty much right on.
AV: 882 reported as 869, pretty much right on.

If I were to guess, I would guess the troops reported in the CR don't include disabled squads.

At least in regular WITP (and i strongly suspect the same for AE), the combat results only show the troops that actually participated in combat... as you disable squads, the discrepancy increases.

Non-combat troops aren't participating in an assault, but will show up when they are defending (assuming they aren't disabled.)

EDIT: Looking at the numbers above, it appears that a large number of IJ troops are disabled, i'd guess.

CRUSH THEM!!!

I only use front line troops in attack so I agree completely.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/12/2010 7:37:20 AM

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We still own some West of Sumatra. JJ has been a bit sloppy in this regard. Yamashiro has been transfered to the South Pacific. I wouldn't be surprised if they sent Kaga and Zuiho too.

Did they garrison/take Sinabang to the north?- You won't reach Palemburg from there- but you'll get to Medan.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/12/2010 3:05:45 PM

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We still own some West of Sumatra. JJ has been a bit sloppy in this regard. Yamashiro has been transfered to the South Pacific. I wouldn't be surprised if they sent Kaga and Zuiho too.

Did they garrison/take Sinabang to the north?- You won't reach Palemburg from there- but you'll get to Medan.

No they did not. It too is a level 1 port with 0/5 airfield. A landing there would require carrier support. 2 RN carriers are in the South Pacific right now. I suppose Hermes and Indomitable might be able to pull it off. An airfield being built on Sinabang would certainly prompt a Jap response and might indeed prompt a movement of resources from New Scotland/Fiji, but it would have to be a sacrifice as anything landed there would probably get crushed before you could get a serious airfield....unless one did it surreptiously and then sprang it on JJ when the airfield reached level 1.

Admiral Lord Sprior's counterattack in Northern Oz will be a serious distraction for the Japs...but it isn't ready yet.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/12/2010 3:07:15 PM

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It is beginning to look like the LYB's didn't bring enough to the party....maybe no need to execute Plan Salsa just yet.

LOL wait French Tickler things.... No use?

Wait..you do realize it isn't me right?

I suspect some staff officer on Fiji in I Amphibious Corp had a "come to Jesus" moment and is now a religious user of the things.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/12/2010 3:11:35 PM

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CRUSH THEM!!!

Interesting that you chose a smiley guy in a tank. We have 20 Stuarts at Nadi and the Japs have 320 Ronsons.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 12/12/2010 3:26:56 PM

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Allied air at Nadi. I am surprised the P-40 jockeys are so motivated. If they knew what they were up against........

Wait till we get that Singapore fixed...then there will be Hell to pay.

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