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RE: Star Trek - 2/20/2010 8:09:50 PM   
JudgeDredd


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RE: Star Trek - 2/20/2010 9:10:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I played City of Heros til like 2 years ago, and for way less than a year.
I rarely encountered lag even though I played the US version on US servers (I couldn't be arsed to play on EU servers, the amount of kids and retards when I played DAOC EU beta turned me off), due to my ISP providing really good pings (120 or less) and reliability.

Still, their support was terrible, solving a support ticket took a week or more at times. Rather bad customer service.

CoH had some levels/bonuses ppl were aiming for (like the ability to fly, at what.. level 14? can't remember), power ugrades etc... but the missions were usually pretty much the same: Go to some place, kill all, free someone, recover some artefact, blehbleh etc. There were some rare events like rikti assaults or the giant octopus that "required" all players in the area to team up, but that was it. I picked CoH as I never liked the WoW world, and as DAOC, Everquest etc. didn't do it for me either. Also, CoH has probably the most advanced teams and chat tools, making it very easy to recruit teams for missions. The UI has been thought through very well. Even WOW can't compete there, at least it couldn't when I checked out the EU beta.

I don't get the hype around WoW or Diablo 2, Diablo 2 had a decent story at least, though, it was just like the online players played the same quests over and over, just to get better armor or certain armor sets, for weeks!.

Repetitive...., lack of variety in online content, not my cup.
The only game I was almost addicted to was Tribes, but that was like a team E-Sport where you competed against others, and it took some skill to beat the opposing team, plus it wasn't pay2play. I guess games like ROF would fit in the same category.

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RE: Star Trek - 2/20/2010 9:15:37 PM   
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Tried it, dislike it, left it.  Like Judge said, every mission seems to be the same, that's if it works properly.  Don't bother complaining about it on the forums though, you'll quickly be spotted for what you are, a hater 


Seems to be the case with most MMOs. I think there is a certain degree of paranoia; while nobody expects their game to be the 'next WoW' they would like it to at least be successful enough to earn them all decent salaries and bonuses for a few years. Trouble is, with even the most likely 'heirs apparent' to WoW not having had the success anticipated nobody really knows what it is that makes a mega-successful MMO. What they do know is how important the scuttlebutt is, if word starts getting around that an MMO isn't exactly a triumph, or just isn't getting the expected subscriber numbers the reality tends to follow the rumour even if the rumour wasn't true. Nobody wants to sink time and money into an MMO that won't be around in a years time.. even those of us who never play one that long hope that MIGHT want to when we buy it!

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RE: Star Trek - 2/20/2010 9:36:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dixie
Tried it, dislike it, left it.  Like Judge said, every mission seems to be the same, that's if it works properly.  Don't bother complaining about it on the forums though, you'll quickly be spotted for what you are, a hater 


Seems to be the case with most MMOs. I think there is a certain degree of paranoia; while nobody expects their game to be the 'next WoW' they would like it to at least be successful enough to earn them all decent salaries and bonuses for a few years. Trouble is, with even the most likely 'heirs apparent' to WoW not having had the success anticipated nobody really knows what it is that makes a mega-successful MMO. What they do know is how important the scuttlebutt is, if word starts getting around that an MMO isn't exactly a triumph, or just isn't getting the expected subscriber numbers the reality tends to follow the rumour even if the rumour wasn't true. Nobody wants to sink time and money into an MMO that won't be around in a years time.. even those of us who never play one that long hope that MIGHT want to when we buy it!



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ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

Yes...I've noticed that over at the elitist STO forums



Paranoia and die-hard trekkies/trekkers, what a combination. I've seen the forums for STO, and they make this place look like the BEst Friends Forever Club Message Board

The arguements are many, but they always end up with name calling and sulking. I can understand that a MMO might not be finished when it's released, there's always new content etc that can be released. But releasing it when it's not ready is something else. If someone wants to compete with WoW and Eve (no matter how you feel about them) then they'd better make sure the product is capable of attracting and keeping players. A half-arsed approach like STO is not going to get anywhere.

Sadly STO fails, badly. That's a shame because Star Trek + MMO should = Major win.


I'd steer clear of this one, at least for several months. Go and play A Final Unity through DOSbox if you can find it somewhere.

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RE: Star Trek - 2/20/2010 9:48:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am seriously concidering going back to EQ1 just to see if it's still as playable and enjoyable as I remember, I have no illusions about seeing it through 'Rose Tinted Glasses' I know I probably am seeing it so

Dated Graphics don't bother me nor do loong quests for a 5+wis item etc EQ1 was the only MMPORG that I have played where you had to work to earn yer rewards at ALL levels and sometimes it was as frustrating as hell.. but... who knows.

None of the more modern MMPORGS seem to do it for me with there dumbing down and uber fast levelling....

Rose Tinted Glasses.. maybe.....

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RE: Star Trek - 2/21/2010 8:28:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Have you seen the commercial on TV for STO? Now when they release the version of the game they showed in the commercial I will run right out and buy it.

When exactly did it become OK to engage in false advertising?

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RE: Star Trek - 2/22/2010 12:38:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Star trek must be one of the prettiest games I have ever played. The space battles are great with phasers flashing, photon torpedoes flying all over the place.... stunning. Sadly a game doesn't survive on looks alone. For a game set in the vastness of space it makes space seem so small. in Eve Online you could travel for days not seeing anyone, mining etc...but in STO the area seems so small and crowded and there is so little to do. Where is the "Seeking out new worlds and new civilisations"..... such a missed opportunity, so sad.

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RE: Star Trek - 2/27/2010 8:50:17 AM   
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Tried it, dislike it, left it.  Like Judge said, every mission seems to be the same, that's if it works properly.  Don't bother complaining about it on the forums though, you'll quickly be spotted for what you are, a hater 



Heh, If you go take a look at those forums now even the most ardent defender of the game is mad. It seems that the price for STO has been dropped, the special "pre-order only" items are being offered to anyone that buys the game now, AND they are including 60 days play time instead of the usual 30. Those that bought the game at release who are about use up their 30 days and then must pay to continue playing are feeling a little betrayed.

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RE: Star Trek - 2/27/2010 9:05:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Scott_WAR


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ORIGINAL: Dixie

Tried it, dislike it, left it.  Like Judge said, every mission seems to be the same, that's if it works properly.  Don't bother complaining about it on the forums though, you'll quickly be spotted for what you are, a hater 



Heh, If you go take a look at those forums now even the most ardent defender of the game is mad. It seems that the price for STO has been dropped, the special "pre-order only" items are being offered to anyone that buys the game now, AND they are including 60 days play time instead of the usual 30. Those that bought the game at release who are about use up their 30 days and then must pay to continue playing are feeling a little betrayed.

I understand that sentiment, but we (including me) can hardly grumble about it. This kind of shenanagins happens all the time and it's getting more and more regular. They can drop the price of the game all they want and offer as many days as they want...but until I get 30 days free for the waste of time I had in my first 30 and they (more importantly) drop the monthly price, I won't be revisiting it soon. On top of that I'd need to see some seriously changed content and more server capacity. The game has to mature and I understand that, but I'm not going to play it until it's matured. And I'm certainly not going to pay an over inflated monthly price to take it into maturity.

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RE: Star Trek - 2/27/2010 9:38:19 AM   
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