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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/20/2011 9:32:01 AM   
LoBaron


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Status: offline 		Ramon I only have a fuzzy picture of the situation, but from what I notice the uncoordinated strikes could have been caused by these key factors:

Weather (at least on the screenshots it looks like the area is currently under a bad weather zone)
Range to target (If I interprete the situation correctly you are launching the strikes from Rabaul)

An additional reason could be the different position of targets (I think this could lead to unbalanced assignement of escort forces, more so because the enemy carriers are even further out
than Lunga already is, - maybe shorten the range to attack the amphib group only?)

As a last observation: I wonder if additional problems are caused because of the higher cruise speed of A6M3 as compared to the A6M2 and G4M1.
Just a thought but it could be wise to sweep the potential target hexes with the M3 while using the M2 as close escorts for the Betties.

Still, seing the list of "x loses contact with raid" it really looks like weather in combination with long range could have thwarted your attacks, in this case there is probably not
much you can do about it.

Banzai!

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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/20/2011 10:35:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello LoBaron,

Thank you very much for your support!.

About strikes, it were launched from Munda with A6M2, A6M3 and G4M1 torpedo-armed with a Airbase size 5, and IJNAF Air HQ (11stAir Fleet). All my aircrafts at same altitude and same range to attack (7 hexes)-this is the distance between enemy fleet and my strike base-. Taking notes about your advises, I´ll follow in the next turn, for sure.

I received several pop-up windows in the combat save like these:

21 A6M2 lost contact with the strike, returning to base.
13 A6M3 lost contact with the strike, returning to base.
28 A6M2 lost contact with the strike, returning to base.

Detection level about the enemy Task Forces is high (with number of ships/aircraft show). I have several chutais with H6K4 and H8K1 patrolling the correct search arc.

It´s dishearting, but could be my fault, we will see in a near future.

Best wishes, and thanks a lot for your support
Ramón



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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/20/2011 11:22:19 AM   
LoBaron


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Status: offline 		Ramon I do not think you did anything wrong, except maybe flying the strikes at all, which I trust you deemed as a necessity as you always
seem to be thoughtful in your actions.

Also, could it be that plane units from Rabaul participated in the action? The reason I am asking is
that the screenshot seems to suggest that part of the raid originated beyond Munda.

It looks like you did everything possible to enable a coordinated strike, the separation messages indicate though that there was
a strong factor against coordination. It is very possible that this factor was weather, if we can rule out range due to mission
base being Munda.

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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/20/2011 11:33:54 AM   
Fletcher


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Status: offline 		Thanks LoBaron,

Other aircrafts flying with Munda ACs were from Panggoe and Vella la Vella, all airfields at 1 hexe from Munda with a HQ at Munda (4 hexes command range -11st Air Fleet-)

Thanks, probably it´s my fault .. I´ll try to follow your advises closely. I´ll report about outcomes :)

Thank you very much, LoBaron.
Ramón

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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/20/2011 11:34:55 AM   
LoBaron


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Status: offline 		I´d like to add a small suggestion, not knowing your complete strike composition:

In case you expect coordination issues (for whatever reason) you can still increase your chances for
maximum protection, even if coordination partly fails.

The relation between bomber and fighter units is very important in my opinion:

The higher the number offighter units participating, the higher the chance that at least some will be able to excort the strike.

The higher the number of bomber units, the greater the chance of an uncoordinated strike, simply because then you will have
to excort two or more separeate strikes instead of one.

In case you deem it neccesary to attack with multiple bomber squadrons it could be wise to split them by altitude into different
packages and then assign escorts specifically for the separated strikes.
With naval attack you cannot predict which target will be chosen, so to preemt a mess because squads all set to the same altitude
have to strike targets in different hexes, you could already prepare the ground for those separate strikes.
Please be careful with this advice though, I have not repeatedly used this practice, so am not sure if it works like I think it would.

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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/20/2011 11:38:01 AM   
LoBaron


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ORIGINAL: Fletcher
Other aircrafts flying with Munda ACs were from Panggoe and Vella la Vella, all airfields at 1 hexe from Munda with a HQ at Munda (4 hexes command range -11st Air Fleet-)


This could be an additional reason for the lack of coordination. Reduced chance of coordination is given if the fighter bases are not situated between the bomber bases and the target.
Since Munda is level 5 I assume this is the Betty homebase?


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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/20/2011 12:31:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting comments LoBaron. I have the very same problem in my game (Zero with Betty) and also with sweep mission. I will try to follow your advices.

Back to the topic, Fletcher are your CVs ready for a counterstrike?




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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/20/2011 1:08:17 PM   
LoBaron


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Status: offline 		Blind Sniper, just to clearify: it was confirmed by the devs that sweep is excluded from coordination.

What Fletcher experienced where that fighters on escort mission partly RTB after losing contact with the raid, while other parts,
also losing contact, proceeded on target. These separated fighter squads arriving on target are tagged as "sweep" in the combat report
though in fact they were on an escort misison.

Personally I consider sweep missions in concert with strikes on a target as "free hunt" or "high cover" missions, where their primary target
is engaging fighters without paying attention to the bombers wellfare, while escort mission is in fact "close escort". Only the escort mission
is coordinated for game purposes. (which does not mean that it doesnt make sense to include fighter sweeps when attacking a certain target
to weaken CAP)

Do not assume that setting fighters on sweep to the same alt as the strike coordinates as a result. It does not.
There IS an improvement though, in my experience, with higher chance that these fighters -set to the same or lower altutde- arrive before the escorted strike,
but this is not due to coordination but due to the fact that time from takeoff to target is very probable a factor of range to target, altitude that needs
to be reached and cruise speed of the concerned fighter squad. Since the the tange to target and the altitude is the same, the cruise speed
enables the sweep to arrive on target earlier than the strike. Not always, but it is something to consider.

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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/20/2011 1:29:58 PM   
Fletcher


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LoBaron


quote:

ORIGINAL: Fletcher
Other aircrafts flying with Munda ACs were from Panggoe and Vella la Vella, all airfields at 1 hexe from Munda with a HQ at Munda (4 hexes command range -11st Air Fleet-)


This could be an additional reason for the lack of coordination. Reduced chance of coordination is given if the fighter bases are not situated between the bomber bases and the target.
Since Munda is level 5 I assume this is the Betty homebase?



LoBaron, yes, they are all based at Munda AF. :)
The escort fighters are based at Munda too. Another group at VellaLaVella (1 Fighter - 1 Bomber Daitai)

Best wishes
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/20/2011 1:31:41 PM   
Fletcher


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ORIGINAL: Blind Sniper

Interesting comments LoBaron. I have the very same problem in my game (Zero with Betty) and also with sweep mission. I will try to follow your advices.

Back to the topic, Fletcher are your CVs ready for a counterstrike?





Hello Blind Sniper,

My carriers will need several days to launch a counterstrike. All carriers are upgrading their dive bombers chutai to D3A2, taking reemplacements and veteran pilots for their ranks and files. I hope to launch a massive counterstrike with two I.Div (9th and 14th from II Army) with all Mobile / 1st Air Fleet naval forces.

Best wishes
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/20/2011 1:34:10 PM   
Fletcher


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TO: ADM . ISOROKU YAMAMOTO, COMBFLEET CINC. HIJMS KAGA.
SUBJECT: I-9 REPORTS
DATE: SEPTEMBER 20TH, 1942

DUE WE CAN NOT TRUST IN OUR AIR ASSETS IN THE THEATRE, OUR SUBMARINES WILL DO THE WORK.
TODAY, I-9 C.O. REPORTED ONE TORPEDO HIT ON USS MARBLEHEAD, AN ENEMY LIGHT CRUISER ESCORTING ENEMY TRANSPORT ASSETS OFF LUNGA POINT.

THREE NEW BOATS WILL DEPARTURE TOMORROW FROM TRUK NAVAL BASE.

LONG LIVE TO THE EMPEROR!
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/20/2011 1:46:12 PM   
Fletcher


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Status: offline 		FROM: VADM TSUKAHARA, 11ST AIR FLEET CINC. MUNDA.
TO: ADM. ISOROKU YAMAMOTO, COMBFLEET CINC. KURE
SUBJECT: AIR STRIKES OVER ENEMY ASSETS AROUND SALOMON ISLANDS.
DATE: SEPTEMBER 20TH, 1942

NEW DAY, NEW UNSUCCESFULL ATTACKS OVER THE ENEMY.

- 13 A6M2 LOST CONTACT WITH AIR RAID, AND PROCEED OVER THE TARGET CLASHING WITH 47 F4F4 ON CAP OVER THE ENEMY CARRIERS. 2 A6M2 WERE LOST.
- 11 A6M3 LOST CONTACT WITH AIR RAID, AND PROCEED OVER THE TARGET, LUNGA POINT. NO ENEMY AIRCRAFTS OVER THE SHIPS.
- 43 A6M2 AND 36 A6M3 ESCORTED 29 G4M1 IN OUR FIRST WELL COORDINATED STRIKE OVER THE ENEMY, BUT THE OUTCOME WAS HORRIFIED. 46 ENEMY FIGHTERS DOGFIGHTED WITH OUR AIR ASSETS OVER THE ENEMY. 1 A6M2, 3 A6M3 AND 10 G4M1 WERE DOWNED WITH NO ENEMY FIGHTERS DOWNED !!.
- 12 UNESCORTED G4M1 STRIKE BATTLESHIPS OFF LUNGA WITH NO HITS. NO ENEMY CAP.
- 15 A6M2 LOST CONTACT WITH RAID AND PROCEED OVER THE TARGET. 14 F4F4 DOGFIGHTER WITH THEM. WE LOST 2 A6M2.
- 27 A6M3 LOST CONTACT WITH RAID AND PROCEED OVER THE TARGET. 9 F4F4 ON CAP OVER LUNGA POINT. 2 A6M3 WERE DOWNED WITH 1 F4F4 DESTROYED TOO.
- 7 A6M2 AND 24 G4M1 STRIKE LUNGA POINT. 4 F4F WERE ON CAP. 1 A6M2 WAS DONWED. NO HITS REPORTED OVER THE ENEMY SHIPS !.
- 10 A6M2 AND 3 G4M1 STRIKE ENEMY CARRIERS. 31 F4F ON CAP. 1 A6M2, 1 G4M1 AND 1 ENEMY FIGHTER DOWNED.
FINALLY 10 A6M2 WITH ANOTHER 3 G4M1 STRIKE ENEMY SHIPS AROUND LUNGA POINT. 13 F4F FACE US. WE LOST 1 A6M2 AND 1 TWIN-ENGINE BOMBER. 1 F4F WAS DOWNED.

AWFULL OUTCOME IN OUR STRIKES. TOMORROW WILL BE DECISIVE.
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/21/2011 10:39:13 AM   
Fletcher


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TO: ADM. ISOROKU YAMAMOTO, COMBFLEET CINC. AT MUNDA.
SUBJECT: SUB WAR REPORT
DATE: SEPT 21ST, 1942

I-1 REPORTS TWO TORPEDO HITS ON HMS ELECTRA, A BRITISH DESTROYER PATROLLING AROUND PERTH. AT SOUTH SEAS, I-23 REPORTS 1 TORPEDO HIT ON S.S. AMERICAN MANUFACTURER, A LARGE XAK, SHE WAS UNLOADING AT GUADALCANAL ISLAND.

ANOTHER SUBMARINES WILL JOIN TOMORROW TO PATROL AROUND GUADALCANAL.

LONG LIVE TO THE EMPEROR !!
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/21/2011 10:40:00 AM   
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SEPT 21ST, 1942




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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/21/2011 10:41:46 AM   
Fletcher


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TO: MARQUIS KIDO, LORD KEEPER OF THE PRIVAL SEAL. IMPERIAL PALACE. TOKYO
SUBJECT: AIR PRODUCTION FIGURES
DATE: SEPTEMBER 21ST, 1942

PRODUCTION FIGURES 1/2




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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/21/2011 10:42:58 AM   
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/21/2011 11:00:41 AM   
Fletcher


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TO:

VADM. CHUICHI NAGUMO, 1ST AIR FLEET CINC.
VADM. NOBUTAKE KONDO, 2ND FLEET CINC.
VADM. JISABURO OZAWA, SOUTHERN FLEET CINC.
RADM. RENZO TANAKA, MOBILE FORCE CINC.
RADM. TAMON YAMAGUCHI, CARDIV 3 CINC.

SUBJECT: YAMAMOTO TAKES COMMAND SOUTHERN AREA
DATE: SEPTEMBER 21ST, 1942

ADM. ISOROKU YAMAMOTO HAVE ARRIVED TO MUNDA, AT SOUTHERN SEAS TO TAKE COMMAND OF OPERATIONS IN THE AREA. ALL AVAILABLE FORCES WILL REPORT HIM ANY NEWS FROM THE ENEMY.

1ST AIR FLEET WILL ASSEMBLY WITH MOBILE FORCE AT TRUK, DAY X-6.
ALL CARRIERS WILL BE FITTED WITH D3A2 DIVE BOMBERS AND HIGH SKILL PILOTS. NO ROOKIES WILL BE ABOARD. ALL AVAILABLE PILOTS ON THE CARRIERS MUST TRAINING HARD IN THEIR SKILLS UNTIL DEPARTURE TO "POINT LUCK".

OILERS WILL ARRIVE TRUK UNDER ASW SCREEN.

VADM. OZAWA WILL TAKE COMMAND OF SCOUTING CRUISERS FORCE.

ORDERS FOR A GREAT REINFORCEMENT CONVOY HAVE BEEN DISPATCHED AT HOME. WE HOPE THE ARRIVAL OF ONE INFANTRY DIVISION FROM IJA AND SEVERAL SNLF FORCES HIGHLY SKILLED IN AMPHIBIOUS DUTIES.

TWO CARRIERS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED : USS WASP - USS YORKTOWN with probably a third or fourth in the area.

TWO BATTLESHIPS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED: USS NEW MEXICO - USS IDAHO

ENEMY HAVE LANDED ONE USMC DIVISION WITH USARMY DETACHMENT (ONE INFANTRY REGIMENT AND ONE/TWO TANK BATALLONS)

LTGEN YOSHIO KOZUKI, WILL TAKE COMMAND OF II ARMY (SHIPPED) WITH TWO CRACK DIVISIONS. TANKS AND SUPPORT UNITS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED TO IJA HIGH COMMAND AT HOME. BEST ASW ASSETS WILL ASSEMBLY WITH LANDING FORCES AT TRUK (AVAILABLE TYPE-2 DEPTH CHARGE DESTROYERS).

HIGH PRIORITY FOR PILOTS AND AIRCRAFT REEMPLACEMENTS IN THE SOUTHERN SEAS. THE ENEMY PROBABLY WILL TAKE TASSAFARONGA AND TRY TO EXPAND AIRFIELDS AND PORT. THE MAIN TARGET WILL BE DESTROYE ANY ENEMY FACILITIES INTO THE RANGE OF MUNDA AIR BASE. BATDIV1 WILL SHIP H.E. SHELLS FOR NIGHT BOMBARMENT MISSIONS.

LTGEN DOYOHARA HAVE PROMISED ME SEVERAL NEW KI-44IIA DAITAIS FOR AIR SUPREMACY FIGHTINGS.

ALL STRIKES WILL BE COORDINATED WITH I.J.A WHEN LANDINGS COMPRIMISED.

THE EMPEROR TRUST IN US TO THROUGH OUT THE ENEMY FROM OUR HOLY PERIMETER.

Long Live to the Emperor !

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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/21/2011 1:40:42 PM   
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What is your thought process in upgrading to the D3A2?  I generally skip this upgrade as it loses one hex of range ... appreciate your insights.  Is this due to the historical nature of your game?

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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/21/2011 1:46:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		xDD Good luck !!! But hurry up !!!, every day u don't attack, US engineers build up the base !!!

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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/21/2011 2:42:48 PM   
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Historical accuracy involved of course.

Best wishes
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/21/2011 2:52:02 PM   
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xDD Good luck !!! But hurry up !!!, every day u don't attack, US engineers build up the base !!!


Traskott,

You can be sure that when the strike come on will be hard, very hard...I have aircraft carrier superiority for sure (2 KAGAS, 2 SORYUS, 2 SHOKAKUS, 2 JUNYOS, 2 ZUIHOS, 1 RYUJO) -my CVEs are in ASW, aircraft transpor and escorting convoys duties-. I will be ready for the challenge. Pilots have been redeployed with the best IJN skilled on board the carriers (with several from TRACOM with 80s). The same for the Daitais leaders on the 1st Striking Fleet (name for the KB-MOBILE FORCE JOINT FORCE). Jonathan have launched the punch, first... I will launch my blow after but harder.

It´s not the same envrioment that historically. IJN have not the lost carriers at Midway, and IJN aircrafts flown from Rabaul I have all my carriers available and I have a great air base at Munda (size 5), with more than 500 aircrafts ready for the struggle !

Will be a large battle, I hope to gain time and material advantage... I´ll lost for sure, but the time is my main target!

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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/22/2011 12:39:38 PM   
Fletcher


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TO: ADM. ISOROKU YAMAMOTO, COMBFLEET CINC. MUNDA.
SUBJECT: SUBWAR REPORT
DATE: SEPTEMBER 22ND, 1942

LIKE PROMISED, OUR FORCES ARE WORKING HARD.

TODAY, I-33 C.O. REPORTED ONE TORPEDO HIT ON USS VINCENNES OFF LUNGA, A HEAVY CRUISER SUPPORTING LANDINGS AT GUADALCANAL ISLAND.

NEAR PERTH, XAK KOORINGA WAS TORPEDOED BY I-1.

LONG LIVE TO THE EMPEROR !
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/22/2011 12:43:41 PM   
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TO: ADM. ISOROKU YAMAMOTO, COMBINED FLEET CINC. MUNDA
SUBJECT: AIR STRIKE OVER ENEMY SHIPS
DATE: SEPTEMBER 22ND, 1942

FOLLOWING YOUR DIRECT ORDERS, TODAY AVAILABLE ASSETS AT MUNDA HAVE TAKE OFF TO STRIKE ENEMY SHIPS SPOTTED BY OUR FLYING BOATS AND STEAMING FAST TO SOUTH. WITH ONLY 14 F4F4 ON CAP, OUR FORCES GOT SEVERAL HITS. 18 A6M2 ESCORTING 49 G4M1 DOGFIGTHED WITH ENEMY REPORTING 1 F4F DOWNED WITH 5 A6M2 LOST AND 1 G4M1 DOWNED BY ENEMY FLAK.

XAK AMERICAN MANUFACTURER WAS SUNK AFTER ONE TORPEDO HIT.
XAK KANSAN WAS SUNK AFTER TWO TORPEDO HITS.
SEVERAL CRUISERS AND DESTROYER WERE ENGAGED BUT NO HITS WERE REPORTED.

THOSE SHIPS ARE WITHDRAWING FROM GUADALCANAL TO THEIR HOME BASES.

SEVERAL HIGH SKILLED PILOTS IN TRANSIT TO FULLFILL OUR 1ST LINE DAITAIS RANK AND FILES.

LONG LIVE TO THE EMPEROR !
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/22/2011 12:47:15 PM   
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TO: GEN. HAJIME SUGIYAMA, IJA GENERAL STAFF CHIEF. IGHQ TOKYO
SUBJECT: IJAAF WAR REPORT AT SOUTHERN SEAS.
DATE: SEPTEMBER 22ND, 1942

LIKE PLANNED OUR AIRCRAFTS HAVE LAUNCHED TWO WAVES AGAINST ENEMY INTRUDERS AT GUADALCANAL, LIKE BELLOW:

1ST WAVE WITH IJAAF 22 KI-43IC AND 27 KI-45 ESCORTING AN ATTACK FORCE WITH 24 KI-48IIA AND 12 KI-21IIA. 07 ENEMY FIGHTERS WERE ON CAP (ALL FROM USN OR USMC). 1 KI-43 AND 2 KI-45 WERE LOST. ENEMY MARCHING ACROSS THE JUNGLE HAVE BEEN BOMBED.

2ND WAVE WITH A SWEEP MISSION OVER LUNGA WITH OUR NEWS KI-44IIA. 9 OF THEM CLASHED WITH 10 F4F4 REPORTING 2 ENEMY FIGHTERS DOWNED.

IN TWO DAYS 3 REINFORCEMENT DAITAIS FROM HOME WILL ARRIVE TO SOUTHERN BASES.

LONG LIVE TO THE EMPEROR !!!
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/22/2011 8:52:43 PM   
Fletcher


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SUBJECT: SUBWAR REPORT
DATE. SEPTEMBER 23RD, 1942

RO-68 REPORTS ENEMY CARGO SHIP XAK AM.PRESS HAVE BEEN TORPEDOED OFF LUNGA POINT. ANOTHER LARGE ATTACK TRANSPORT, IDENTIFIED LIKE "PRESIDENT TAYLOR" HAVE BEEN SUNK AFTER TWO TORPEDOES HIT HER FROM I-23 OFF KIRAKIRA.
THE SAME BOAT REPORTED ENGAGEMENT WITH XAK WALTER LUCKNBACH, OFF LUNGA POINT. TWO SHELL HITS WERE REPORTED THERE.

THREE BOATS WILL DEPARTURE TOMORROW FROM TRUK TO REINFORCE OUR PICKET LINE AT SALOMONS-SANTA CRUZ AREA.

LONG LIVE TO THE EMPEROR !
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/22/2011 9:02:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		FROM: VADM. TSUKAHARA, 11ST AIR FLEET CINC. MUNDA.
TO: ADM. ISOROKU YAMAMOTO, COMB FLEET ADVACED HQ AT MUNDA.
SUBJECT: AIR STRIKES REPORT
DATE: SEPTEMBER 23RD, 1942

290 SORTIES OVER ENEMY TARGETS AROUND GUADALCANAL ISLAND. NO MORE COORDINATION PROBLEMS AFTER YOU HAVE TAKE THE DIRECT COMMAND OF AIR OPERATIONS AROUND SOUTHERN SALOMON, SIR.

- 11 A6M3 TAKE OFF TO SWEEP LUNGA POINT. THEY CLASHED WITH 13 F4F4 ON CAP. 2 A6M3 AND 1 F4F4 WAS REPORTED.
- 24 A6M2 ESCORTING 55 G4M1 DOGFIGHTED WITH 10 F4F4 AT CAP OVER ENEMY SHIPS AROUND LUNGA POINT. 2 A6M2 WERE DOWNED IN THE AIR COMBAT WITH 3 G4M1 DOWNED BY THE FLAK. 1 F4F4 WAS DOWNED BY OUR PILOTS. BB IDAHO WAS HIT BY TWO TORPEDOES. OTHER WARSHIPS WERE ENGAGED BUT NO MORE TORPEDO HITS WERE REPORTED (BB NEW MEXICO, CA CANBERRA, CA AUSTRALIA, CL SUMATRA AND SEVERAL CARGO SHIPS AND DESTROYERS).
- 4 UNESCORTED G4M1 INTERCEPTED OVER LUNGA BY 4 F4F4. 02 OF THEM DOWNED.
- 9 A6M2 ESCORTED 5 B5N2 TO STRIKE LUNGA POINT ENEMY SHIPPINGS. 1 A6M2 WAS DOWNED BY THE CAP (3 F4F4) WITH ONE BOMB HIT REPORTED OVER DMS PERRY, A MINESWEEPER-DESTROYER.
- 33 IJAAF LEVEL BOMBERS WITH 50 IJAAF FIGHTERS STRIKE 7TH USMC REGIMENT MARCHING TO TASSAFARONGA FROM LUNGA POINT. NO ENEMY AIRCRAFTS OVER THEM.
- 9 KI-44 IIA SWEEPS LUNGA WITH NO ENEMY AIRCRAFT REPORTED ON CAP.
- 08 A6M2 SWEEPS LUNGA AT AFTERNOON DOGFIGHTING WITH 10 F4F4. 1 A6M2 AND 2 F4F4 DOWNED.
- 11 A6M2 SWEEPS LUNGA AT AFTERNOON BEING INTERCEPTED BY SEVERAL F4F4. ONE OF THE LAST DOWNED.
- 14 A6M2 ESCORTED 18 G4M1 TO ATTACK ENEMY SHIPS AROUND LUNGA. 1 F4F4 WAS ON CAP. ENEMY BATTLESHIPS WERE ENGAGED WITH NO HITS REPORTED.
- 7 A6M2 ESCORTED 10 G4M1 TO ATTACK ENEMY SHIPS. NO BOMB HITS REPORTED. 1 A6M2 WAS DOWNED BY A LONELY F4F4 OVER THE ENEMY FLEET.
- 11 A6M2 ESCORTED 5 B5N2 OVER LUNGA. NO HITS REPORTED.

IJAAF WILL COLABORATE WITH US TO DESTROY ANY ENEMY FACILITIES. OUR ONLY PROBLEM IS THE ENEMY HEAVY BOMBERS. LTGEN. H.OBATA HAVE PROMISED TO SENT US 03 NEW KI-44IIA DAITAIS TO FACE THEM.

11ST AIR FLEET INTELLIGENCE REPORTS 7 ENEMY F4F4 WERE DOWNED OVER SOUTHERN SEAS TODAY.
RADIO SILENCE HAVE BEEN ORDERED TO ALL OUR NAVAL STAT COMM CENTERS WITH MOBILE FORCE.

LONG LIVE TO THE EMPEROR !!!
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/22/2011 9:09:46 PM   
Fletcher


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Status: offline 		FROM: GEN. SHUNROKU HATA, CHINA EXPEDITIONARY ARMY CINC. NEAR KIENKO.
TO: GEN. HAJIME SUGIYAMA, IGHQ. IJA GENERAL STAFF CHIEF. TOKYO
SUBJECT: CHINA NEAR TO COLLAPSE.
DATE: SEPTEMBER 23RD, 1942

CHINESE FORCES HAVE LAUNCHED DESESPERATE ATTACKS IN THE HIGH MOUNTAINS IN THE ROAD TO KIENKO. OUR FORCES HAVE SMASHED ALL ENEMY ATTACKS. 24.488 ENEMY CASUALTIES (98 SQUADS DESTROYED) VS 956 IJA MEN LOST. ENEMY IS DESESPERATE TO GET THE CHENGDU-CHUNGKING PLATE BEFORE WE ASSAULT KIENKO. OUR 05 ADVANCED GUARD ARMOURED REGIMENTS WILL STORM KIENKO SOON.

ABSOLUTE AIR SUPREMACY OVER CHINA. ALL AIRFIELDS HAVE BEEN DESTROYED. AT WEST, KUMMING WILL BE STORMED TOMORROW, AND I HOPE TO ANNOUNCE THE CONQUEST OF THIS CITY. XVI AND XV ARMY WILL MARCH OVER CHUNGKING LIKE SOUTHERN PINCER FORCE, AND OUR NORTHERN CHINA AREA ARMY (WITH 1ST AND 11TH ARMIES) WILL ATTACK FROM THE NORTH.

LONG LIVE TO THE EMPEROR !!! BANZAIIII
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/22/2011 9:12:59 PM   
LoBaron


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Status: offline 		Looking forward to the defense against the Guadalcanal invasion! Good luck Ramon.


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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/22/2011 10:01:11 PM   
Fletcher


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Status: offline 		Lo Baron, thank you very much.
Your advises were critical.
For the other hand, Tsukahara (11st Air Fleet CINC) have been reemplaced by Isoroku Yamamoto. Things change at all.
Best wishes
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RE: AE Historical Game Project. Cantona2 (allied) vs Fl... - 3/23/2011 10:09:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ahahahahahahahahha, two torps at the Idaho ? xDDD looks like your coordination troubles are gone 

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