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Trains - 11/25/2000 2:56:00 AM

Securitas

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I have et up a scenario with a railroad and a train on it. But with a couple of exceptions, everythign is immobilized. Was this intentional? The other thing I was wondering is if the Railroad terrain type has any effect on movement or defense. It is not included in the table of terrain features in the game manual, or at least a seach did not find it. ------------------ Securitas _________________________ 88mm is a really nice number

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- 11/25/2000 4:32:00 AM

Paul Vebber

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The trains don't move, the track must have have been pulled up by fifth columnists...

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- 11/29/2000 7:14:00 AM

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quote:

Originally posted by Securitas: I have et up a scenario with a railroad and a train on it. But with a couple of exceptions, everythign is immobilized. Was this intentional? The other thing I was wondering is if the Railroad terrain type has any effect on movement or defense. It is not included in the table of terrain features in the game manual, or at least a seach did not find it.

It is possible to make the train move, just edit the units to have a movement allownace, though you do then have the problem of the train still moving after the engine gets toasted or parts of it still moving with a hole if something in the middle gets blasted. Be sure to set waypoints to try to keep the train on the tracks, if you are going to let the computer run the train. Really it should be done by a human who will honor damage done to the train, like it coasting to a halt or derailing if the engine gets blown up, or the rear section seperating and coasting to a halt if a middle car dies. Aside from the Czech legion after WWI, what armored trains actually made it into combat in this century? It is more likely that a combat force would breakthrough and find a train at a station than rolling down the tracks. thanks, John.

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- 11/29/2000 7:21:00 AM

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Pretty neat ideas, John. I had not thought of that. I'll give it a try! ------------------ In Arduis Fidelis Wild Bill Wilder Coordinator, Scenario Design Matrix Games

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- 11/29/2000 7:24:00 AM

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Guy's, yes you can give it movement, the main reason it doesn't however is, think about when it retreats!! It's gonna look aweful funny having a engine, or even worse, a car running cross-country, don't you think!!?? They won't STAY on the track, remeber that. I do wish we could've done that, but, you know what happens when you wish in one hand....

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- 11/29/2000 8:54:00 PM

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Maybe something of a solution here. Why not give the engine a super carry rating, so that it can tow cars which would have no movement allowance? What would happen, then, if a middle car blew up? One thing is certain, a retreat which may come about, wouldn't see the cars running off on their own. I suppose, as well, that if the train were hit, the passengers (the cars) would 'jump off' the train? I ask this because I have thankfully no experience of seeing what happens to towed guns when the towing vehicle is hit, but I do know infantry will 'jump off'.

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- 11/29/2000 9:53:00 PM

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BTW, if you also put some sort of impassable terrain around the tracks, this would be a stop-gap way of keeping the trains on it. Of course, this and the previous idea combined would in some way solve the current problem, but create others, such as when the engine loads the cars, I would imagine that the cars would disappear, therefore destroying the visual effect.

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- 11/29/2000 11:02:00 PM

Warrior

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quote:

Originally posted by Securitas: The other thing I was wondering is if the Railroad terrain type has any effect on movement or defense. It is not included in the table of terrain features in the game manual, or at least a seach did not find it.

I don't know about defense of a train, but a railroad embankment can be built and is the main defense feature in one scenario about the French holding off a German attack.

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