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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/17/2011 1:54:18 AM   
wneumann


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Joined: 11/1/2005
From: just beyond the outskirts of Margaritaville
Status: offline 		Summary of Operations 8/09/42

Central Pacific: Sigint entry for 8/08 reports intercepted Jap radio transmissions from Ponape. Detected status of Ponape shows evidence of airfield construction, otherwise no visible Japanese forces or activity.


South Pacific: Japanese amphibious landing underway at Tanna (southern New Hebrides island chain). Coastwatcher report of Jap amphibious TF and AAR of landing ops follow.

Coastwatcher sighting: 5 Japanese ships at 120,157 near Tanna, Speed 18, Moving Southwest

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Amphibious Assault at Tanna

TF 470 troops unloading over beach at Tanna, 120,157

Japanese ground losses:
289 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 52 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (0 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost in surf during unload of Sasebo 3rd SNLF

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Transport convoy WP-9 (32 transport ships, 4 DM, 3 YMS) arrived this game turn at Auckland from the Mainland US. Cargo arriving with convoy WP-9 includes 91K supply and 76K fuel, no air units or LCU’s. DM and YMS with the convoy will remain at Auckland and transfer to the South Pacific theatre.

Daily coastwatcher reports from 8/08 Operations report follow.

Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Shortlands
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Buna
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Milne Bay
Coastwatcher Report: 12 ships reported in port at Rabaul
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Noumea
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Hoorn Islands
Coastwatcher sighting: 7 Japanese ships at 106,125 near Rabaul, Speed unknown
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Ndeni
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Buna
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Lae
Coastwatcher Report: 16 ships reported in port at Rabaul
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Kavieng
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Koumac
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Luganville


Australia: Jap fighter sweep again reported over Darwin. Latest AAR follows.

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 14

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x A6M3 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet

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Repairs to damaged airfield at Townsville continue. PBY’s and Catalinas resumed supply airlift flights from Townsville to Portland Roads this game turn. Supply stocks on hand in Portland Roads remain sufficient for the garrison and also to continue construction activities.

Fortifications at Portland Roads have been built to level 3. Current plans are to garrison and fortify the hex against a possible Japanese landing. No immediate plans to construct port or airfield facilities at Portland Roads (I’m leaving it a dot hex for now) but that is certainly a consideration for later, especially given Portland Roads can be built to a size 6 airfield (handy for any future air strikes against Port Moresby).


Philippines: Ground bombardment at Bacolod (Cebu) continues. Latest AAR follows.

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Ground combat at Cebu (80,86)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2323 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 132
Defending force 9921 troops, 126 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 263

Assaulting units:
81st PA Infantry Division
Cebu USN Base Force

Defending units:
19th Division

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Southeast Asia: Dutch submarine K-VII reported sinking this game turn off the Burma coast after heavy damage from Japanese air attack on 8/07.


Burma: Detected status of Jap base in Rangoon from British aerial recon – no Japanese ships anchored in port, four Jap TF’s in harbor, 73 aircraft (15 fighters, 34 bombers), 7 Jap LCU’s.


China: Japanese ground bombardment at Sining. AAR’s follow.

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Ground combat at Sining (80,32)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 125 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 711
Defending force 18442 troops, 105 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 605

Assaulting units:
17th Division
37th Division
1st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
17th Chinese Corps
259th Brigade
9th Separate Brigade
303rd Brigade
82nd Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Base Force
5th Chinese Base Force
8th War Area
12th Chinese Base Force

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/19/2011 12:09:16 AM   
wneumann


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Central Pacific: Sigint entry for 8/09 reports heavy volume of intercepted Jap radio transmissions from Tabiteuea. Detected status of Tabitueuea shows undetermined Jap ship(s) in port, also planes based on Tabitueua, otherwise no visible Japanese forces or activity.


South Pacific: Japanese capture Tanna (southern New Hebrides island chain). AAR follows.

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Ground combat at Tanna (120,157)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1104 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 26
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0
Japanese adjusted assault: 7
Allied adjusted defense: 1
Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Tanna !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-), fatigue(-)

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 3rd SNLF (transferred to South Pacific from Singapore)

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Daily coastwatcher reports from 8/09 Operations report follow.

Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Shortlands
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Tulagi
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Buna
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Milne Bay
Coastwatcher Report: harbor at Rabaul is reported empty
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Belep Islands
Coastwatcher sighting: 7 Japanese ships at 106,125 near Rabaul ,Speed unknown
Coastwatcher sighting: 5 Japanese ships at 120,157 near Tanna ,Speed 17, Moving Southwest
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Lunga
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Shortlands
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Port Moresby
Coastwatcher Report: AK Kikukawa Maru reported in port at Rabaul
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Noumea
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Luganville

Sigint entries for 8/09 report intercepted Jap radio transmissions from Lunga and Luganville. Detected status of the bases show undetermined Jap aircraft based at both Lunga and Luganville, otherwise no visible Japanese forces or activity.


Australia: Jap fighter sweep and airfield bombing raid at Darwin. Jap planes participating in the strikes appear to be coming from Timor. AAR’s follow.

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 14

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x A6M3 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 42
(Airfield runway damage 29, service damage 17)

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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DEI: Dutch submarine O-21 on patrol near the southern exit of Sunda Straits (between Java & eastern Sumatra) attacked and damaged by Japanese ASW air patrol. O-21 (system damage 46, float 13, eng 9) is returning to base at 15 kts for repair.


Philippines: Ground bombardment at Cebu. AAR follows.

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Ground combat at Cebu (80,86)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2323 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 131
Defending force 10042 troops, 126 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 269

Assaulting units:
81st PA Infantry Division
Cebu USN Base Force

Defending units:
19th Division

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Burma: Detected status of Jap base in Rangoon from British aerial recon – no Japanese ships anchored in port, four Jap TF’s in harbor, 58 aircraft (21 fighters, 25 bombers), 7 Jap LCU’s.


China: Japanese ground bombardment at Sining. AAR’s follow.

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Ground combat at Sining (80,32)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 140 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 718
Defending force 18608 troops, 105 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 623

Assaulting units:
17th Division
37th Division
1st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
17th Chinese Corps
303rd Brigade
259th Brigade
9th Separate Brigade
82nd Chinese Corps
8th War Area
8th Chinese Base Force
5th Chinese Base Force
12th Chinese Base Force

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/20/2011 9:35:55 PM   
wneumann


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Status: offline 		Summary of Operations 8/11/42

Hawaii: PBY Catalina air patrol spots and attacks Jap submarine identified as I-26 N of Pearl Harbor (hex 180, 105), moving on a W heading – no hits reported on the sub. A second unidentified Jap sub was also detected SW of Pearl Harbor, reported moving on a SE heading. Surface ASW TF’s have been sortied from Pearl Harbor against the I-26.


Central Pacific: Sigint entry for 8/10 reports heavy volume of intercepted Jap radio transmissions from Truk. Detected status of Truk shows undetermined Jap planes based there, also ship(s) in port (neither of these a surprise). What appears to be a TF of one or more Jap submarine(s) is visible at Truk.

Other Sigint entries for 8/10 report intercepted Jap radio transmissions from Jaluit and Nauru. Detected status of these bases do not show any visible Japanese forces or activity at either location. Evidence of port facility expansion was observed at Jaluit , port size is now 3(1).


South Pacific: Daily coastwatcher reports from 8/10 Operations report follow.

Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Lunga
Coastwatcher Report: 4 ships in port at Shortlands
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Ndeni
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Buna
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Milne Bay
Coastwatcher Report: xAK Hiteru Maru reported in port at Rabaul
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Noumea
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Luganville
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Lunga
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Lae
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Gasmata
Coastwatcher Report: 12 ships reported in port at Rabaul
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Manus
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Koumac
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Noumea
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Efate
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Tanna
Coastwatcher sighting: 8 Japanese ships at 106,125 near Rabaul , Speed unknown

Sigint entry for 8/10 reports heavy volume of intercepted Jap radio transmissions from Rabaul. Detected status of Rabaul shows undetermined Jap planes based there plus ship(s) at anchor. No other visible Japanese forces or activity.

Given that… (1) the Sigint report above, (2) one or more unidentified Jap TF(s) had been detected and visible N or Rabaul during the 8/10 game turn replay, and (3) the number of Japanese ships now reported in Rabaul by coastwatchers, Pillager may well be on a mission and (if so) the mission could be coming from the direction of Rabaul. Naval air search from Australia has been activated along a patrol arc from Milne Bay to SE of Rossel Is.


Australia: Jap bombing raids on Portland Roads and Darwin. AAR’s follow.

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Afternoon Air attack on Torres Strait Battalion, at 91,132 (Portland Roads)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
G3M2 Nell x 15

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Overcast

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 33
(Airfield service damage 34, runway damage 44)

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Burma: Detected status of Jap base in Rangoon from British aerial recon – no Japanese ships anchored in port, four Jap TF’s in harbor, 54 aircraft (20 fighters,18 bombers), 7 Jap LCU’s. No change in detected Japanese forces or activity at Rangoon over the last few game turns.


China: Japanese continue ground bombardment at Sining. Latest AAR follows.

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Ground combat at Sining (80,32)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 140 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 730
Defending force 18635 troops, 105 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 624

Assaulting units:
17th Division
37th Division
1st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
303rd Brigade
9th Separate Brigade
17th Chinese Corps
259th Brigade
82nd Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Base Force
8th Chinese Base Force
8th War Area
12th Chinese Base Force

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/22/2011 8:34:49 PM   
johnjohn

 

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From: Arvada, CO
Status: offline 		June 6, 1942. The 49th Aussie Bn secures the evacuated BUNA base after marching across the Owen Stanley Mountains. Two divisions are right behind the Brigade. They will be moved up the coast to start the process of securing Lae.

The 1st Marines, 2nd Marines, and 23rd Inf Div (Americal) are on the way to Pearl. The 4th Marine Div is already there, the 3rd forming, but have another year to go. The 7th Inf Div, the 24th Inf Div and the 25th Inf Div with those on the way make up the heart of the Gilbert Marshalls future campaign. Marine Defense Bn's are being pegged for movement to take over island defense once the Inf Div's retire after battle. Tank bn's and ENGR units are forming up as well for future movement. Seventh AF HQ is also moving back to PH from Noumea. Others will follow. The first portable dry dock is on the way to Noumea. It will help with needed repairs. Even with several ARs in harbor, Noumea is not a good repair hub. This will change that.

Essex is at Pearl with Lexington's air group. Her air group is at SF training up. I now have two 3 CV task forces with 13,000 AAA. Hellcats and Helldivers are now in the fleet with more coming. F4Us are still in limited supply, I have 5 squadrons equipped, but only two in combat. Ledo is turning into a major supply base. I have 150 Commandos due to arrive in 30 days. Kunming will get cut out of the airlift, the Commandos can make the hop without the stop in Kunming. I am planning to move some of the C-47s to China to help with distribution of supply. I still don't know why the AI keeps attacking at Wenchow. I have 20K effectives, AV of 750, and forts of 3, sometimes 4, while they have 7K effectives and AV of 90. They keep losing 20% of their force every time they attack. And they attack at least once a week. (1,500 to 2,000 casualties each attack--dumb).

They do the same elsewhere, but the odds are better for them, although they do not dislodge the Chinese. If they give up on India, I will be in real trouble here. Nothing new in that, I suppose.

Am in a serious upgrade phase for virtually all UK and USA ships. I have been playing catch up, and transferred the 100+ AKs on the East Coast Capetown run to West Coast where they are being converted and upgraded. Have only 25 ships on that run now, all upgraded. England is still sending material to Capetown, but I stopped shipping to England when I found I could go direct to Capetown. Capetown is loaded.

8th Inf Div (Aussie) finally formed after LARK evacuated from PM. They have a long ways to go to fill out the division. Meanwhile, they hold the fort at Port Darwin.

It looks like I could start the Gilberts phase in August and the Marshalls phase in October, about 2 months ahead of real life. Am having fun with the new material, but am beginning to realize that I need to reorg the West Coast for storing all this stuff until more bases become available.

Have ASW extended to 300 miles off west coast, further from San Diego. Same at PH. Jap subs are getting scarce, which means they are being repositioned since they are not showing up on the sunk list. Ran 12 MLs to Diamond Harbor and Chittalong. They now have the ASW assignments in that part of the world. Took awhile to do it. They do not have much sea legs. But they were doing nothing at Karachi. Did the same thing with a bunch of PCs on the west coast, sending them to PH. Sent an AO with them so they could make the trip.

IJNS Akagi has disappeared. No indications of where she is. Same for Kaga and Shokaku. That is why I keep 3 CVs in each CV task group. Just in case. Johnjohn

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/23/2011 12:36:45 AM   
wneumann


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Status: offline 		johnjohn,

Hope you're doing better in China than I, got a disaster area on my hands (see two posts below).

I'd be curious on how you have your supply airlift from India into China organized. I do have transport (air) squadrons available in India plus a number of Base Force LCU's for a network of bases - I'd still have to get them all moved into place along with the supply points.

quote:

...transferred the 100+ AKs on the East Coast Capetown run to West Coast where they are being converted and upgraded.

You know there's a rather large shipyard in the Eastern USA where you can upgrade those ships much faster than running them onto the map to the West Coast and back. Capetown would also handle this. I've been doing these upgrades "between missions" as individual ships returned empty to the Eastern US or Capetown - just do the upgrades gradually while keeping most of your transports active. Many of the transport upgrades may be done "low priority" as individual ships can be be spared from front-line duty.

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/23/2011 12:38:56 AM   
wneumann


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Hawaii: Contact reported N of Pearl Harbor between Jap submarine I-26 and a US surface ASW TF’s dispatched from Pearl Harbor. AAR follows.

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Sub attack near Pearl Harbor at 180,105 (N of Oahu, night action)

Japanese Ships
SS I-26

Allied Ships
DMS Chandler
DMS Zane
DD Lawrence

SS I-26 launches 2 torpedoes at DMS Chandler
DD Lawrence fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Chandler fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lawrence fails to find sub and abandons search
DMS Chandler fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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South Pacific: Daily coastwatcher reports from 8/11 Operations report follow.

Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Lunga
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Buna
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Finschhafen
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Milne Bay
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Belep Islands
Coastwatcher Report: 4 ships in port at Luganville
Coastwatcher sighting: 7 Japanese ships at 120,157 at Tanna, Speed unknown **
Coastwatcher Report: 4 ships reported in port at Rabaul
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Noumea
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Efate

** US submarine S-30 has reached Tanna base hex (120,157), spotted Jap TF with 6 ships.


Australia: Jap bombing raid on Portland Roads continues. AAR follows.

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Afternoon Air attack on Torres Strait Battalion, at 91,132 (Portland Roads)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
G3M2 Nell x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Damage to airfield facilities at Townsville is now fully repaired after Jap naval bombardment on 8/06. All regular Allied air operations from Townsville have been resumed.

Jap fighter sweep and bombing raid on Darwin airfield. AAR’s follow.

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Morning Air attack on Darwin, at 76,124

Weather in hex: Light rain

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 14

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x A6M3 Zero strafing at 100 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin, at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 22
(Airfield service damage 50, runway damage 44)

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Burma: Japanese bombers hit airfield on Port Blair. AAR follows.

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 10
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 8
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 26
(Airfield service damage 13, runway damage 27)

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 1000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 1000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Detected status of Jap base in Rangoon from British aerial recon – no Japanese ships anchored in port, no Jap TF’s in harbor (-4 from last report), 59 aircraft (13 fighters, 21 bombers), 7 Jap LCU’s.


China: Japanese capture Yenan. AAR follows.

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Ground combat at Yenan (88,37)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3246 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 127
Defending force 1570 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 81
Japanese adjusted assault: 196
Allied adjusted defense: 27
Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Yenan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
538 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
54th Infantry Brigade

Defending units:
120th Red Chinese Division

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Japanese continue ground bombardment at Sining. AAR follows.

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Ground combat at Sining (80,32)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 140 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 734
Defending force 18675 troops, 105 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 624

Assaulting units:
17th Division
37th Division
1st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
303rd Brigade
9th Separate Brigade
259th Brigade
17th Chinese Corps
82nd Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Base Force
8th War Area
5th Chinese Base Force
12th Chinese Base Force

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/23/2011 12:41:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Big Picture #11 – China’s Last Gasp

Until the last several game turns, the Chinese had been able to establish a more or less stable defense line from Kweiyang in the south through Chihkiang in the center and anchored in the north by the mountains SW of Sian. Much of this defensive line utilized available terrain features - a river line in the central and southern sectors, forest and mountain terrain in the north. It had been hoped that the remaining operational Chinese forces could successfully hold this line until (1) an adequate supply airlift from India to China could be established, and (2) additional Chinese LCU’s now in remnants could be rebuilt to a combat-worthy condition along with any new Chinese LCU’s arriving as reinforcements.

With the successful Japanese advance and capture of Kweiyang, Pillager un-anchored the southern flank of the Chinese defensive line. Two consequences of this advance are becoming apparent – (1) a Japanese push towards Chungking from the south, and (2) the Allied-controlled areas of China will be divided again with the main area around Chungking becoming separated from the southern region that includes Kunming to the China-Burmese border. The Japanese southern advance in particular is requiring a withdrawal of Chinese LCU’s in the southern and central areas towards Chungking.

A smaller Japanese advance in the north is threatening to outflank the northern anchor of the Chinese front and is likely to force a Chinese retreat to the SE towards Kienko and Chengtu. I have launched a small Chinese counter-attack to disrupt the Japanese supply route to part of the northern advance.

The Allied strategic situation in China is dismal, to put it mildly…

What is anticipated to occur shortly is that Allied-controlled territory in China will be broken up into three separated zones.

(a) a Southern region centered around Kunming and Paoshan including the mountain areas adjacent to the China-Burmese border.
(b) a pocket in the Center containing the main Chinese forces around Chungking and Chengtu.
(c) the Far Western region of China adjacent to Mongolia and the USSR.

The Southern and Far Western areas both contain relatively weak numbers of Chinese land forces and neither of these areas would be expected to hold for long against a determined Japanese ground offensive. While I expect Pillager to mostly ignore the Far Western area, a Japanese attack to collapse the Southern area would be expected as this would open land communication between the main Japanese front in China and Japanese-controlled Burma.

While the Central “pocket” around Chungking and Chengtu contains the bulk of Chinese land forces, a large proportion of Chinese LCU’s inside the “pocket” are heavily depleted in combat strength (mainly through loss of elements rather than disruption) and are no means combat-worthy. Most Chinese LCU’s in the Central area still capable of combat operations are holding the northern and central fronts of the “pocket”. A general withdrawal of Chinese LCU’s from the central front (the river line around Chihkiang) towards Chungking is underway with at least some of these LCU’s planned to be thrown in front of the Japanese advance from Kweiyang. Few if any Chinese LCU in the Central "pocket" are capable of launching a sustained or effective counter-attack without seriously threatening cohesion of the overall Chinese defensive effort.

Another critical problem in the Central “pocket” is a shortage of supply for both combat operations and to allow rebuilding of Chinese LCU’s with elements from the replacement pool. The replacement pools contain ample numbers of Chinese squads of all types, however, the lack of supply on-hand has prevented bringing replacement squads from the pools for rebuilding depleted Chinese LCU’s. It’s becoming unlikely a sufficient Allied supply airlift from Ledo into the Central “pocket” can be organized in time.

The bottom line being faced here is an increasingly probable collapse of China, this event likely to occur before the end of 1942.

Current situation maps of the main fronts in northern and southern China follow.




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Current situation map of the northern sector of China follows.




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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/23/2011 4:00:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow! Not looking too good. I am assuming that you are trying to hold Chungking so that all resupply focus would go there.

This is what my thinking and actions were in my campaign.

1. India first. If I need my transports to support Indian opps, that is where they go.
2. C-47, DC-3 and 2, Dakotas, cannot reach Chungking directly. Sent the Squadrons that could be upgraded to Calcutta and then repositioned them. Established the life line as Calcutta, Ledo, Kunming, Chungking. Initially put same number of planes on each leg. When the two C-87 groups arrived, put them at Ledo and direct flights into Chungking. This also puts pressure on sea lane to Calcutta, because Calcutta needs lots of supply as the head end of the operation. Again, first call for supplies is India. Whatever is left goes to China.
3. Like you, I established the Chinese in the best defensive positions I could find. I especially put troops into the passes to keep the enemy from blitzing ahead. Inchang, Tiasato, the mountain passes around Tiasato (not sure I am spelling that right, it is a minor base square) and all the roads have been cut. Most in several places.
4. Using China's DC-2/3's, I am moving some supply to Tiasato and Inchang, also to Pahkot from Ledo. I have 40,000 troops at Inchang, 25,000 at Tiasato and many other Corps in support nearby, one or two hexes, to make sure the roads are cut. The supply helps some, but it is not significant outside of Chungking which has accumulated 20,000 supply points.
5. I added to the air line of supply with 4 squadrons from the USA and assigned them to 10th AAF. Same argument as point one. They were not currently needed for Army ops in the west or SOPAC, so off they went. It turns out that when air supply is required in late 42, the Navy and AAF have more than sufficient transports to handle two supply lines in SOPAC/Aussie. This is modified by the following:
a. US/Allied willingness to move troops via APs rather than air. Cats can evacuate better than transports, so evac is not an issue for transport use.
b. If transport availability is too low, loaned out transports will be immediately repositioned in areas where needed (see rule one and substitute original command area).

All of this actually results in some increase in supply at Chungking. By mid 43 the number of transports available increases five fold. I am almost to that point. The difference that I am experiencing is that I have been able to hold so far and do not have the Japanese running wild in my rear. But that is always in the back of my mind.

I misspoke about the upgrades and conversions. Those were all done on the east coast before I decided to move the 100 or so ships back to the Pacific. Capetown has the entire UK carrier fleet and fast battleships in drydock, while the older BBs are drydocked in Columbo ATM receiving upgrades. Right now, Capetown is the biggest supply depot I have, so I have cut the east coast supply effort down to 25 liberty ships. Most of the Aussie supply force is either hauling what is left in the UK to Capetown or forwarding it to Columbo, Trincomolee, Calcutta, or Perth. Perth is distributing it to the west coast and southern outposts. Port Darwin is being supplied by an air route from Townsville through Conclurry and Tennant Creek. When possible, I try to sneak in supplies from Port Morseby to Darwin, one supply ship at a time. Aden is now open from UK and is receiving some supply from UK as well. Fuel on the Aussie east coast is a severe issue at present, but have 400K fuel on the way, about 200k each for Sydney and Brisbane. Johnjohn

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/23/2011 4:40:49 PM   
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Paotow is under attack, we are dug in and holding fast.
hex 93,34 mountain hex next to Paotow, is under attack, but we are dug in and holding fast.
COMMENT--We are vulnerable here. If they break through there is nothing to hold them back from open field running.

Air Supply to Pakhoi (from Ledo started two months ago in early 43). We are holding and outnumber the enemy 5 to 1 in AV.

Liuchow--lost to enemy. Am blocking RR/Road north one hex away with former defenders.

Kweilin--holding, but under attack. Road north is wide open if city falls.

Tuyun--is in garrison and not under attack. Is essentially where the rear area begins in this region
Ichang is receiving air support. 1127 AV against less than 125.
Tsiaotso--holding with 3-1 AV advantage. Digging in furiously. Also receiving air supply

Behind Tsiaotso are six Corps holding defensive positions preventing a fast move towards central China.
Around Ichang are numerous Corps and HQs holding the other cities and cutting off movement

Wenchow has 1000 AV to 150, killing 1500 to 2000 a week. This could go on the whole war.

Got the names right this time. Johnjohn

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/23/2011 5:09:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		COMMENT and OBSERVATION. I just realized the danger of my position in the mountains around Paotow. I may need to strat move a couple of corps the long way around to ensure the cutting of the transportation routes. Otherwise, the enemy could really just blitz into the rear and the interior of China. The object would be to fight a delaying action by keeping the enemy from using the roads. Obviously, I would not be able to stop them, but I think I could slow them down.

So far the units in the mountains have repulsed every attack. But you only have to lose the battle once. I think someone said something like that about any ship can be a minesweeper--once.

Hope the lift ideas are helpful. I am not sure that it will make any difference at this point, but it could. It doesn't take much supply to increase the effectiveness of defenders. And that is just what you need. Johnjohn--watching Tim Tebow do the impossible--win.


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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/24/2011 4:16:43 PM   
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johnjohn,

China is a part of the game I never really mastered (obviously!), even in the old WitP. Pillager pretty much had few difficulties in China during either PBEM vs me though his advance through China in our previous CHS match did not occur this quickly or to the extent that it has gone here. What has probably not helped the situation is that China tends to be low on my scale of priorities in any given game turn.

Taking a quick inventory of what I currently have on hand in India... There are six air transport squadrons available (113 planes total), five of these recently disembarked in Bombay from Aden. The five squadrons in Bombay are all equipped with DC-3 and C-47 planes and near or at full TOE plane and pilot strength. The one other air transport squadron (18 DC-2's) is at Ledo and already flying what is probably a rather small quantity of supply directly into Chungking from Ledo. The DC-2 has a relatively small cargo capacity (2400) compared to 6000 for the C-47 and DC-3. I'm estimating the trickle of supply being flown into Chungking each game turn on the eighteen DC-2's is sufficient only to maintain the current level of supply on hand in Chungking (approx 26K) from one game turn to the next.

Steps I'm looking at now include:

1) Increasing the quantity of supply points on hand in Ledo. At this time I'm thinking this is possible by increasing the "Supplies Required" amount (Base Information screen) to draw additional supply points directly into Ledo - there is a minor rail line running into Ledo and supply being drawn into Ledo by this method would travel overland across this rail line. Use of this rail line would reduce if not completely eliminate the need to move supply for China through Calcutta.

2) Currently Ledo has a size 3 airfield, this expandable to at least a size 6. Engineers would be required in Ledo for this expansion and are obtainable from elsewhere withiin India.

3) Transferring the available air transport squadrons now at Bombay to Ledo. These squadrons are not employed on any missions at this time and current plans do not see them being needed for employment elsewhere at least for the short-term.

4) Transfer one or more air Base Force LCU's to Ledo for support. These are available.

5) At some point, upgrade the DC-2 air transport squadron to DC-3 planes as soon as I can afford to take this squadron "off-line".

Supply and fuel point stocks in India are ample and now sufficient to support an airlift to China - this between domestic production inside India plus arrival of supply and fuel aboard transport convoys running to India from Capetown and the Middle East.

Getting this supply route up and running may not save China, but it could at least prolong the agony (which in itself is a benefit from the Allied view). With enough supply in Chungking, this will at least allow depleted Chinese LCU's to draw elements from the replacement pools.




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Hawaii: Jap submarine detected NE of Pearl Harbor.


Central Pacific: US fleet sub Stingray attacks small Jap transport TF. AAR follows.

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Sub attack near Truk at 115,102 (NE of Truk)

Japanese Ships (Jap TF reported moving eastward)
PB Chiyo Maru #4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Koho Maru
DD Akikaze

Allied Ships
SS Stingray

SS Stingray launches 2 torpedoes at PB Chiyo Maru #4
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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South Pacific: Daily coastwatcher entries from 8/12 Operations report follow.

Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Lunga
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Shortlands
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Buna
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Milne Bay
Coastwatcher sighting: 2 Japanese ships at 106,125 near Rabaul, Speed unknown
Coastwatcher sighting: 6 Japanese ships at 120,157 near Tanna, Speed unknown **
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Tulagi
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Madang
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Milne Bay
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Salamaua
Coastwatcher Report: harbor at Rabaul is reported empty

** US submarine S-30 is in Tanna base hex (120,157) and remains in contact with this Jap TF confirmed to have 6 ships, appears to be a transport or amphibious TF.


Australia: Jap bombing raid on Portland Roads continues. Latest AAR follows.

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Afternoon Air attack on Torres Strait Battalion, at 91,132 (Portland Roads)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
G3M2 Nell x 15

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Japs continue fighter sweep on Darwin, no bombing raid. AAR follows.

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Morning Air attack on Darwin, at 76,124

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 14

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x A6M3 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

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Philippines: Reported amphibious operation is landing additional Japanese troops at Cebu, also a Japanese ground assault against Cebu. AAR’s follow.

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Pre-Invasion action off Cebu

54 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Kibi Maru
AK Yamazato Maru
DD Minazuki

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

PB Kibi Maru fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards

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Amphibious Assault at Cebu

TF 116 troops unloading over beach at Cebu, 80,86

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 4 (0 destroyed, 4 disabled)

8 Aviation Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 56th JNAF AF Unit /3
(this AAR the first report of 56 JNAF AF Unit in the known Japanese OOB)

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Ground combat at Cebu (80,86)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10358 troops, 126 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 303
Defending force 3819 troops, 49 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 131
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2
Japanese adjusted assault: 259
Allied adjusted defense: 201
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
248 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
19th Division
56th JNAF AF Unit /1

Defending units:
81st PA Infantry Division
Cebu USN Base Force

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Burma: Detected status of Jap base in Rangoon from British aerial recon – no Japanese ships anchored in port, one Jap TF in harbor (four ships), 62 aircraft (16 fighters, 27 bombers), 7 Jap LCU’s.


China: Japanese capture Yenan. AAR follows.

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Ground combat at Yenan (88,37)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3246 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 127
Defending force 1570 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 81
Japanese adjusted assault: 196
Allied adjusted defense: 27
Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Yenan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
538 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
54th Infantry Brigade

Defending units:
120th Red Chinese Division

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Japanese continue ground bombardment at Sining. AAR follows.

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Ground combat at Sining (80,32)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 140 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 734
Defending force 18675 troops, 105 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 624

Assaulting units:
17th Division
37th Division
1st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
303rd Brigade
9th Separate Brigade
259th Brigade
17th Chinese Corps
82nd Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Base Force
8th War Area
5th Chinese Base Force
12th Chinese Base Force

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/24/2011 10:19:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		On China--I found that the load, if you fly direct to Chungking from Ledo is actually less than full because you are flying extended range. That is why I go through Kunming with the 3's et al. Those that can make the distance within effective range go direct. Second, I continued to fly the 2s until only a few were left. Then I flew them to Calcutta, upgraded, and returned them. I mainly kept them in China flying what is available to the most critical need. Third, and you know this already, I took C-47s from USA that were not needed now and shipped them to India and put them on the route. Four squadrons doubles the airlift you could have now. I just checked, and I have four squadrons each at each part of the leg, six in Ledo counting the 2 very small C-87s, hauling stuff. In a month I get 150 Commandos. They carry 10000 each. They also fly farther.

Because replacement of C-47s and 3s is so low, I only fly normal range missions (except from Calcutta to Ledo) to keep down the losses. I also keep one of the P40 squadrons in Kunming and another at Ledo, adding more to Ledo as fighters become available. However, the enemy is attacking along the India coast with aircraft, so most of my fighters are over there. I further developed airbases at Ledo, Jahort, Lashiro, and Chittalong. Later I upgraded Diamond Harbor and Dacca. I also ran several Aussie divisions into this part of India to dissuade the enemy from attacking. Once all the HQs are on board, you can support significant numbers at all these bases. I put the 221 at Calcutta, the 222 at Chittalong, and so forth, also bringing up "their" ENGR and AV support units. Madras is the only other base I have developed intentionally in India. Trincololee and Columbo and the airbase between also were further developed once it became clear that the ant farm was not coming.

I never thought to up the supply need at Ledo. I think that is a very good idea. I am going to look into it. Johnjohn

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Status: offline 		An Addendum--I intentionally evacuated/retreated the support units at Lashio. Ran it into China, taking over four months to get it to safety. I misspoke on Lashio in the previous post. I meant Imphal instead. Johnjohn.

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quote:

Fuel on the Aussie east coast is a severe issue at present, but have 400K fuel on the way, about 200k each for Sydney and Brisbane.

Fuel in Australia has been an issue for me as well.

A large share of fuel points in Australia are consumed to refuel ships in transport convoys arriving in Australia for their return voyage to either Capetown or the Middle East (a similar situation existing on a smaller scale in Auckland for ships in transport convoys arriving there from the US West Coast). The fuel quantities involved can be considerable as each convoy can include from 20 up to 50+ transport ships.

I have been making a practice of having the cargo loaded aboard each transport convoy to Australia from either the Eastern US or Middle East include at least enough fuel points to cover the amount needed for refuelling all the ships in the convoy for their return voyage. Even so, much of the fuel point cargo loaded aboard a given transport convoy is often consumed to refuel the convoy's ships rather than increasing the fuel point stockpiles in Australia. A long-term increase in the overall fuel point stockpiles in Australia is proving to be a "two steps forward, one step back" proposition.

As described earlier, the "two steps forward, one step back" proposition is also true for New Zealand and the South Pacific theatre, the only differences being (1) less fuel is required to support the New Zealand economy compared to Australia and (2) the transport convoys in question arriving in New Zealand are from the US West Coast.

My long-term objective for stockpiling fuel in both Australia and New Zealand is providing fuel points in sufficient quantity to support US naval operations (both carrier and surface forces) as well as TF's for amphibious and other operations. The fuel points needed to do this have to be in addition to any quantities of fuel needed to run the Australian and New Zealand economies. At this point in my game, I have a 12-18 month time frame to ship all the needed fuel into Australia and New Zealand from the Middle East and mainland US.

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johnjohn,

I completely see your point on flying extended range from Ledo directly into Chungking and its effect on reducing the amount of supply transported on each plane... I also see a trade-off between having all the available transport planes in Ledo and flying them directly to Chungking compared to a "relay system" where supply is flown from Ledo to Chungking through a chain of one or more intermediate stops (airfields) where each airfield is within normal flight range of the next one.

Keeping in mind the "relay system" requires evenly distributing the number of available transport planes between Ledo and each of the intermediate airfields along the path from Ledo to Chungking - distributing my 110 available transport planes across a "relay system" consisting of Ledo and (for example) two intermediate stops would require 35-40 transport planes to be based at Ledo and also the airfields at each of the two intermediate stops. Assuming all 110 transport planes are of equal load capacity, the planes are equally distributed across the three airfields (Ledo & the two intermediate stops), and all three airfields are operating normally, a volume of supply points equivalent to the full load capacity of 35-40 transport planes will move between Ledo and Chungking across the airlift route each game turn.

The current strategic situation inside China makes the "relay system" not feasible in at least one respect... The "relay system" requires one and probably several safe airfields inside southern China. My estimate of the current strategic situation in China includes a relatively high probablilty that Pillager can march a Japanese army southward from the Kweiyang area via Kunming toward the China-Burmese border and linking up a direct line of communication between Burma and the main Japanese front in China. I can see this move possibly coming even before a Japanese assault to capture Chungking. If my estimate is true, there will eventually be no airfields in southern China for operating a supply airlift from Ledo to Chungking using a "relay system".

The second option for airlifting supply from Ledo to Chungking is by direct flights from Ledo to Chungking. With the 110 available transport planes and assuming they are carrying supply at 1/2 load capacity due to flying at extended range, the planes will still carry a volume of supply points equivalent to the full capacity of 55 transport planes each turn. More efficient at least "on paper" anyway, though there could be other pitfalls involved that reduce the volume of supply moved from my hypothetical figure. The direct flight option does have the disadvantage of placing all my transport planes in "one basket" - flying from Ledo. And once Pillager is aware an airlift is operating from Ledo, Ledo will be attacked.


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Japanese Home Islands: US submarine intercepts Jap transport TF southeast of Iwo Jima. TF is reported moving on a NE heading. AAR follows.

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Sub attack near Iwo Jima at 111,81 (SE of Iwo Jima)

Japanese Ships
xAK Kosei Maru
PB Teibo Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS Trout

SS Trout launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kosei Maru
PB Teibo Maru #2 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Hawaii: Detected Jap submarine remains NE of Pearl Harbor.


Central Pacific: Sigint entry for 8/13 reports intercepted Jap radio transmissions from Roi-Namur. Detected status of Roi-Namur shows undetermined Jap aircraft based there, otherwise no visible Japanese forces or activity.

US submarine intercepts Jap transport TF moving between Truk and Rabaul. AAR follow.

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Sub attack near Mussau Island at 106,114 (N of Kavieng)

Japanese Ships
AK Arizona Maru
DD Isonami

Allied Ships
SS Sailfish

SS Sailfish launches 2 torpedoes at AK Arizona Maru
DD Isonami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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South Pacific: Daily coastwatcher entries from 8/13 Operations report follow.

Coastwatcher Report: 4 ships in port at Shortlands
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Ndeni
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Buna
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Madang
Coastwatcher Report: 10 ships reported in port at Rabaul
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Belep Islands
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Koumac
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Hoorn Islands
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Shortlands
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Efate
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Luganville
Coastwatcher sighting: 5 Japanese ships at 106,125 near Rabaul , Speed unknown


Australia: Jap bombing raids on Portland Roads continue. AAR follows.

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Afternoon Air attack on 811th Engineer Aviation Battalion, at 91,132 (Portland Roads)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
G3M2 Nell x 15

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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No reported Japanese air activity over Darwin this game turn.


DEI: Japanese air bombing raid on Ternate (Maluccas) for a second consecutive day (last game turn’s air raid was not reported in the 8/13 Summary of Operations above). Pillager appears to be resuming Japanese mop-up operations against the handful of bases in the Eastern DEI still under Allied control.

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Afternoon Air attack on Ternate Det. Base Force, at 78,102 (Ternate)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Japanese aircraft (these aircraft were previously bombing Darwin)
G3M2 Nell x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Philippines: Japanese capture Butuan on Mindanao. AAR follows.

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Ground combat at Butuan (80,89)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13685 troops, 124 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 481
Defending force 5187 troops, 55 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 164
Japanese adjusted assault: 412
Allied adjusted defense: 10
Japanese assault odds: 41 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Butuan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
932 casualties reported
Squads: 41 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 135 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 20 (20 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 6
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
5th Division

Defending units:
102nd PA Infantry Regiment
103rd PA Infantry Regiment
3rd/101st PA Battalion
3rd PA Constabulary Regiment
102nd PA Infantry Division
Cagayan USAAF Base Force (eliminated)
III Philippine Corps

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Japanese amphibious landing operation and ground assault against Cebu continues. AAR’s follow.

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Invasion Support action off Cebu
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

11 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Minazuki
PB Kibi Maru
AK Yamazato Maru

DD Minazuki firing at 81st PA Infantry Division
PB Kibi Maru fired at enemy troops
2.95in PackHowitzer battery firing at AK Yamazato Maru

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Invasion Support action off Cebu
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Kibi Maru
AK Yamazato Maru

PB Kibi Maru fired at enemy troops

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Invasion Support action off Cebu
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Kibi Maru
AK Yamazato Maru

PB Kibi Maru fired at enemy troops

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Invasion Support action off Cebu
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAP Teika Maru
AK Yamakaze Maru
AK Yamazato Maru

xAP Teika Maru fired at enemy troops
AK Yamakaze Maru fired at enemy troops
AK Yamazato Maru fired at enemy troops

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Ground combat at Cebu (80,86)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10272 troops, 126 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 296
Defending force 3579 troops, 49 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 117
Japanese adjusted assault: 257
Allied adjusted defense: 89
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
119 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
468 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
19th Division
56th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
81st PA Infantry Division
Cebu USN Base Force

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Ground combat at Cebu (80,86)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1772 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 80
Defending force 10803 troops, 136 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 290

Assaulting units:
81st PA Infantry Division
Cebu USN Base Force

Defending units:
19th Division
56th JNAF AF Unit

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Southeast Asia: Japanese naval shore bombardments (two separate attacks from two different Jap surface TF’s) and an air bombing raid against Port Blair (Andamans). Current status of Port Blair base shows 20 port damage, airfield service damage 28, airfield runway damage 48. AAR’s of the three attacks follow.

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Night Naval bombardment of Port Blair at 46,58

Japanese Ships
CA Ashigara
CL Natori
DD Nagatsuki
DD Kisaragi
DD Mutsuki
DD Natsugumo

Allied ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 2

CA Ashigara firing at Port Blair
CL Natori firing at Port Blair RN Det
DD Nagatsuki firing at Port Blair RN Det
DD Kisaragi firing at Port Blair
DD Mutsuki firing at Port Blair
DD Natsugumo firing at Port Blair

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Night Naval bombardment of Port Blair at 46,58

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai
CL Tama
CL Sendai
DD Uranami
DD Shirayuki
DD Suzukaze
DD Umikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hayashio

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 39
Port hits 23
Port supply hits 6

CA Chokai firing at Port Blair
CL Tama firing at Port Blair
CL Sendai firing at Port Blair
DD Uranami firing at Port Blair
DD Shirayuki firing at Port Blair
DD Suzukaze firing at Port Blair
DD Umikaze firing at Port Blair
DD Tokitsukaze firing at Port Blair
DD Amatsukaze firing at Port Blair
DD Hayashio firing at Port Blair RN Det

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 8

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 1000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Dutch submarine K-XVIII on patrol in the Andaman Sea reports spotting a Japanese TF (four ships) off Mergui, moving on a SW heading. No reported combat occurred.


Burma: Detected status of Jap base in Rangoon from British aerial recon – no Japanese ships anchored in port, one Jap TF in harbor, 54 aircraft (18 fighters, 19 bombers), 7 Jap LCU’s.


India: Actions to establish a supply airlift from Ledo to Chungking are underway. An Air HQ (China Air Task Force) and one air base force LCU is already at Ledo. 101 RAF Base Force also arrived in Ledo this game turn and is now unpacking from strategic land movement. Ledo currently has 9700 supply points on hand. The required supply point amount in Ledo had already been increased by 6000, this now increased by a further 4000 to a total value of 10000. Further increases in required supply to Ledo may be done later on as necessary.

One additional RAF Base Force LCU from Delhi and two Indian engineer bns from Madras are prepping for strategic land movement to Ledo. Current airfield size at Ledo is 3, plans are to do some expansion of airfield size to facilitate the China supply airlift.


Indian Ocean: Construction activity to establish base facilities at Diego Garcia for use as an on-map anchorage for the Royal Navy has been underway following the arrival of flak, engineer and base force LCU’s from Capetown, Aden and the Indian mainland, along with establishment of supply and fuel point stocks. Plans are to expand both port and airfield facilities on Diego Garcia to their maximum sizes (port size 5, airfield size 6).


China: Continued Japanese ground bombardment at Sining. Latest AAR follows.

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Ground combat at Sining (80,32)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 160 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 751
Defending force 18714 troops, 105 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 626

Assaulting units:
17th Division
37th Division
1st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
303rd Brigade
17th Chinese Corps
259th Brigade
9th Separate Brigade
82nd Chinese Corps
8th War Area
8th Chinese Base Force
5th Chinese Base Force
12th Chinese Base Force

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Status: offline 		Transport planes flying at extended range do not fly less supply than if they were flying at normal range. Normal and extended range does not figure in the calculations. Unlike other plane types, transport planes operating between two owned bases factor their maximum distance into the range.

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/25/2011 6:28:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Alfred is right on this. I did some research on the transports and they haul the max to max extended range. The difference is extended range ups the damage and possibility of loss. In your situation, I would dump the relay idea, since conserving the aircraft is not the first priority, and I would start looking at US Long Range Bombers and adding them to the mix. The general idea is to get as much to Chungking as quickly as possible. If the Chinese bombers have the range, I don't remember if they do, throw them in as well. I put about 200 plane support, several AA units and two fighter squadrons at Ledo so as to haul as much as possible. I also moved several British Brigades into the area and one division to hold the fort. I also run every AKL I have to Calcutta from Columbo with immediate turn arounds. Of course, the enemy is not operating in the area in my game so this is practical and mostly a safe move. This keeps the headend supplied. I suppose upping the supply request at Calcutta may help with that too, since alot of material is going to be moved this way via planes.

Something to consider is whether you can rail enough supply to Ledo directly. If so, forget the Calcutta leg and fly all planes from Ledo to Chungking. My guess is that you cannot sustain the supplies at Ledo, but if you can...go for it. Keep some planes available to evac the base forces in the south around Kunming if necessary. Combined, those guys can support 50 or more a/c. johnjohn

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/25/2011 6:35:25 PM   
johnjohn

 

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Status: offline 		I have to say, that managing the logistical tails is proving the most challenging part of the game. It seems that in every discussion we have I learn something new about how to do this. What I am doing is working for me, but I see inefficiencies abound when you and Alfred point out obvious and not so obvious alternatives that achieve the same thing without wasting trips and using too many hulls. Don't know where I saw this but someone posted the obvious about all this: "Tactics win battles, logistics win wars." Johnjohn.

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/25/2011 7:53:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thought I`d un-lurk to say I just had a delightful morning reading through this AAR from T 1. For a returning AE player like me, It is well written and full of fine strategic and tactical detail and game play insights.

A few comments if I might.

Your opponent seems to have a _very_ leisurely rate of advance, and AFAIK, hasn`t employed ( together ) his three prime early war weapons. Six CV KB, the Elite Special Naval Landing Forces ( Marines ) and the long range high quality Anti Shipping Betty`s and Nells, supported by land based Zeros with high experienced pilots, with their range you can interdict most supply routes. That`s a Deadly weapons mix, but becomes less useful as the Allied war machine gets rolling about late `42.

Perhaps it was more a WitP game engine function, and not viable in AE ??, but most Japanese players with an eye on the clock, and looking for a stalemate would by this time frame have struck for the Indian Ocean-Columbo with a view to knock UK/India out of the war. Or South for Suva/New Zealand to cut the supply lanes to Oz. Or the central pacific Johnston Island/Midway gambit. IMO, experienced Japanese players ( in WitP ) found Australia would just be a big POW cage.

Also surprising is his not surfacing raiding your supply routes and using his Subs along your supply lanes and off the West Coast...in the AI game they are mini Death Stars.
Perhaps you have some House Rules in play ?

Hope you don`t mind my questions/comments.....

PS: Sorry about China

Rich


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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/25/2011 11:51:08 PM   
johnjohn

 

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Status: offline 		I have upped the supply needs for Ledo and Calcutta to see if that makes a difference. I am under no pressure here, so it is easy to test this. I also am playing couple of turns (1 day option) daily, so I can get some idea of the effect by Monday. I will let you know if it is making any appreciable difference. John

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/25/2011 11:51:42 PM   
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Welcome aboard.

quote:

Your opponent seems to have a _very_ leisurely rate of advance...

The current game is the second matchup between myself and Pillager, our previous PBEM being a CHS game in WitP that went until early 1944 (when we switched to AE). That being said... it's very hard (from my side) to make any comment on Pillager's rate of Japanese advance in our current game beyond the following.

I would not accuse Pillager in any way of being "leisurely" as a Japanese player. In our previous CHS game, he pushed the Japanese a lot harder overall than in this game, both in terms of how much ground the Japanese advance covered and in attacking Allied lines of communication. My personal opinion being that if Pillager could be aggressive as the Japanese in any given situation, he would do so. And it would be true in this game.

In our current AE game, the initial Japanese objectives fell quickly and pretty much on the schedule that I anticipated for the initial Japanese attacks. In fact he's done better in China this time in AE than he did in our CHS game. Somewhere in the Jan-Feb 1942 (or so) timeframe of this game, the Japanese could not sustain their effort and started "running out of gas".

The only theory I can offer is that Pillager is working through a major problem on the Japanese side (war economy?) and the problem is taking considerable time and effort to untangle. Pillager didn't put the brakes on himself, there is something going on with the Japanese side that's putting the brakes on Pillager. Whatever it is... it's keeping Japanese progress in nearly all areas painfully slow, it's keeping the KB and much of the IJN in harbor and most Japanese planes on the ground, it kept the US alive on Bataan until 6/42, the list goes on.

We have little in the way of house rules (the only one requiring PP expenditures for moving LCU's between theatres).

From the Allied point of view, the plan is running on schedule. At this point in 1942, it is for the most part sufficient.

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/26/2011 9:37:52 PM   
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Eastern US: Three US subs entering the game in the Eastern US as reinforcements are being dispatched to Capetown via off-map movement for eventual deployment to Colombo for operations in the Indian Ocean. Plans are to deploy additional US subs entering the game as reinforcements in the Eastern US to the Indian Ocean theatre via Capetown. These subs are intended to replace the Dutch-British submarine force that was destroyed in Colombo by a KB air attack on 6/12/42.


Hawaii: New entry appearing in Sunk Ships screen (Intelligence display) reports that Japanese sub I-1 sank SW of Niihau on 8/11 from a 500 lb bomb hit (result of a previous ASW air attack ?).


South Pacific: Daily coastwatcher entries from 8/14 Operations report follow.

Coastwatcher Report: 4 ships in port at Shortlands
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Tulagi
Coastwatcher Report: harbor at Rabaul is reported empty
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Belep Islands
Coastwatcher sighting: 2 Japanese ships at 109,131 near Shortlands, Speed 11 , Moving West
Coastwatcher sighting: 6 Japanese ships at 120,150 near Luganville , Speed 22 , Moving Northeast
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Milne Bay
Coastwatcher Report: harbor at Rabaul is reported empty
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Efate
Coastwatcher sighting: 3 Japanese ships at 106,125 near Rabaul, Speed unknown
Coastwatcher sighting: 6 Japanese ships at 120,150 near Luganville, Speed 22, Moving Northeast


Australia: Continued Jap bombing raids on Portland Roads. Latest AAR follows.

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Afternoon Air attack on Torres Strait Battalion, at 91,132 (Portland Roads)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
G3M2 Nell x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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DEI: Japanese continue air bombing raids on Ternate (Maluccas) for a third consecutive day.


Philippines: Japanese capture Cebu this game turn. AAR’s follow.

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Invasion Support action off Cebu
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAP Teika Maru
AK Yamakaze Maru
AK Yamazato Maru

xAP Teika Maru fired at enemy troops
AK Yamakaze Maru fired at enemy troops
AK Yamazato Maru fired at enemy troops

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Invasion Support action off Cebu
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAP Teika Maru
AK Yamakaze Maru
AK Yamazato Maru

xAP Teika Maru fired at enemy troops
AK Yamakaze Maru fired at enemy troops
AK Yamazato Maru fired at enemy troops

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Ground combat at Cebu (80,86)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10230 troops, 126 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 292
Defending force 3184 troops, 49 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 80
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0
Japanese adjusted assault: 124
Allied adjusted defense: 43
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Cebu !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3612 casualties reported
Squads: 187 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 262 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 15 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 64 (64 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 74 (74 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
19th Division
56th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units: (both LCU eliminated)
81st PA Infantry Division
Cebu USN Base Force

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Japanese amphibious landing is now underway at Baybay (Leyte). Japanese 12th Infantry Division arrived in Leyte after previously capturing Catbalogan (Samar) on 7/31. AAR follows.

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Amphibious Assault at Baybay

TF 317 troops unloading over beach at Baybay, 81,86

Japanese ground losses:
1329 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 120 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (0 destroyed, 5 disabled)

19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 12th Div
19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 12th Div /4
19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 12th Div /8
19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 12th Div /12

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Jap LCU detected in hex adjacent to Bacolod, believed to be 24th Division advancing on Bacolod from Dumaguete (captured on 8/08).

Japanese capture Dumanquilas (western Mindanao). AAR follows.

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Ground combat at Dumanquilas (77,89)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1463 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0
Japanese adjusted assault: 29
Allied adjusted defense: 1
Japanese assault odds: 29 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Dumanquilas !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
14th Naval Guard Unit (first report of this LCU in the known Japanese OOB)

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Southeast Asia: Jap air bombing raid against Port Blair (Andamans). Status of Port Blair base shows 20 port damage, airfield service damage 32, airfield runway damage 54. AAR follows.

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 14
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 8
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 37

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 1000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 1000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Burma: Detected status of Jap base in Rangoon from British aerial recon – no Japanese ships anchored in port, two Jap TF’s in harbor (+1 from last report), 107 aircraft (42 fighters, 23 bombers), 7 Jap LCU’s. One of the Jap TF’s at Rangoon is a possible surface combat TF containing 10 ships.


China: Japanese ground bombardment at Sining continues, no change.

Withdrawal of all Chinese forces holding the Chihkiang area towards Chungking is now completely underway. Movement orders were issued this game turn to the last Chinese rear-guard LCU’s remaining in Chihkiang and adjacent hexes to begin pulling back. A Japanese advance from Kweiyang toward Chungking would threaten if not break the one line of communication between Chungking and Chinese forces holding the Chihkiang area.

Chinese rear-guard forces on the northern flank of the Chungking "pocket" area will complete evacuation of Tienshui dot base hex (top right of situation map) this coming game turn.

Current situation map of Chungking pocket area follows.




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Status: offline 		Couple of matters previously discussed. The test of upping supply at Ledo indicates that increasing Ledo's needs by 5,000 indicates that the overall impact is plus 1,000 per day. I could not determine the impact of +20,000 at Calcutta, too much other supply coming in and planes still hauling supply out. On the transports, after rereading the manual again, we have been wrong on range for supply transport all along. A transport plane can haul max supply up to one-half max range as long as leg is from one controlled base to another. This is not true for air drops or moving troops by air, where the normal ranges come into play. But supplies can be lifted farther than we thought. John.

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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/28/2011 7:38:43 PM   
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RE: Sleepless on Samoa, the Sequel (wneumann vs Jolly P... - 11/28/2011 7:52:39 PM   
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Points well taken, and I can add several other things onto them.

1) Counting the hexes, the airlift distance between Ledo and Chungking is 15 hexes, exactly 1/2 maximum range of all the available Allied transport plane types including DC-2, DC-3 and C-47. Chengtu is an airlift destination as well - the airlift distance from Ledo to Chengtu being 12 hexes, exactly at the extended range for all three Allied transport planes above and would be a suitable alternate airlift destination for airlift flights requiring planes to fly at or within their extended range.

2) I currently have the required supply points at Ledo set to 10000, this increasing the supply point stocks on hand in Ledo to about 10000 with 18 DC-2 planes that are now flying supply from Ledo into Chungking. Additional transport planes flying supply airlift from Ledo will (of course) draw more supply and could make adjustments to required supply points in Ledo necessary. The value for required supply points in Ledo needs to be set where (a) there is a sufficient number of supply points on hand in Ledo each game turn for loading aboard the airlift plus meet any other operational requirements in Ledo itself, without (b) accumulating an excess of supply in Ledo at the expense of other locations and activities in India. It's a balancing act but highly doable.


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Hawaii: PBY Catalina air patrol spots unidentified Jap submarine and oil slick near (due N) of Oahu. Jap sub reported moving on a W heading. Surface ASW TF’s have been dispatched from Pearl Harbor to locate and attack the sub contact.


Central Pacific: Sigint entries for 8/15 report intercepted Jap radio transmissions from Kwajalein and Jaluit. Detected status of Kwajalein shows undetermined Jap aircraft based on Kwajalein, also ship(s) at anchor in port. Otherwise, no visible Japanese forces or activity at Kwajalein and Jaluit.


South Pacific: Daily coastwatcher entries from 8/15 Operations report follow.

Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Ndeni
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Buna
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Lae
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Port Moresby
Coastwatcher Report: AD Ayato Maru reported in port at Rabaul
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Belep Islands
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Ndeni
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Buna
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Finschhafen
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Madang
Coastwatcher Report: harbor at Rabaul is reported empty
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Manus
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Noumea
Coastwatcher Report: xAK Hohuku Maru reported in port at Luganville
Coastwatcher sighting: 3 Japanese ships at 106,125 near Rabaul, Speed unknown
Coastwatcher sighting: 2 Japanese ships at 109,131 near Shortlands, Speed unknown


Australia: Jap bombing raids on Portland Roads continue. No change from previous attacks in the last few turns.


DEI: Japanese air bombing raids on Ternate (Maluccas) continue. Latest AAR follows.

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Afternoon Air attack on Ternate Det. Base Force, at 78,102 (Ternate)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Philippines: Japanese capture Baybay (Leyte). AAR’s follow.

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Ground combat at Baybay (81,86)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9773 troops, 124 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 219
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0
Japanese adjusted assault: 194
Allied adjusted defense: 1
Japanese assault odds: 194 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Baybay !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:

Assaulting units:
12th Division

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Southeast Asia: Jap air bombing raids against Port Blair (Andamans) continue. Current status of Port Blair base shows 20 port damage, airfield service damage 42, airfield runway damage 59. Latest AAR’s follow.

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 9
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 1000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 1000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 1000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Burma: Detected status of Jap base in Rangoon from British aerial recon – no Japanese ships anchored in port, two Jap TF’s in harbor. 92 aircraft (39 fighters, 31 bombers), 7 Jap LCU’s.


China: Japanese ground bombardment at Sining continues, no change.

Japanese cut road communications between Chungking and southern areas of China (at hex 73,47).

Withdrawal of Chinese LCU’s in the northern front and the Chihkiang area of the Chungking “pocket” is progressing. Chinese forces successfully evacuated Tienshui dot hex base in the northernmost point of the “pocket” this game turn. Plans remain to get as many Chinese LCU’s from the northern and central sectors of the Chungking “pocket” into a position from where they can defend the capital.

Current situation map of the Chungking area and southern China follows.




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Hawaii: No detection or contact reported with the unidentified Jap submarine spotted last game turn N of Oahu.


Central Pacific: Sigint entry for 8/16 reports heavy volume of intercepted Jap radio transmissions from Kwajalein. Detected status of Kwajalein continues to show undetermined Jap aircraft based on Kwajalein and ship(s) at anchor in port. One or more unidentified Jap TF(s) were detected this game turn in Kwajalein base.


South Pacific: Transport convoy WP-10 and detachments arriving in the South Pacific theatre area. Total size of the convoy was 18 ships (13 transports, one SC, one AV, one CM, one DMS, plus CVE Long Island). Main body of the convoy arrived in Auckland with three detachments from the convoy arriving at Pago Pago, Niue and Tongatupu.

Cargo loaded aboard the convoy includes three USN Seabee LCU’s, one USMC dive bomber squadron and 45K supply. USN Seabee units were disembarked in Auckland, Niue and Tongatapu to reinforce or start construction to expand fortifications and base facilities. CVE Long Island is being retained in the South Pacific for use in transferring LBA air units from Auckland to airfields on various islands in the Suva-Samoa area. The SC, AV, CM and DMS ships arriving with convoy WP-10 will also remain in the South Pacific.

Daily coastwatcher entries from 8/16 Operations report follow.

Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Buna
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Lae
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Madang
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Port Moresby
Coastwatcher Report: harbor at Rabaul is reported empty
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Koumac
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Ndeni
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Buna
Coastwatcher Report: 3 ships in port at Lae
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Kavieng
Coastwatcher Report: xAK Manzyu Maru reported in port at Luganville
Coastwatcher Report: 1 ship in port at Hoorn Islands
Coastwatcher sighting: 4 Japanese ships at 106,125 near Rabaul, Speed unknown


Australia: Jap bombing raids on Portland Roads continue. Latest AAR follows.

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Afternoon Air attack on 811th Engineer Aviation Battalion, at 91,132 (Portland Roads)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
G3M2 Nell x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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DEI: Japanese air bombing raids on Ternate (Maluccas) continue. No change from previous reports.


Southeast Asia: Jap air bombing raids against Port Blair (Andamans) continue. Current status of Port Blair base shows 20 port damage, airfield service damage 45, airfield runway damage 62.


Burma: Detected status of Jap base in Rangoon from British aerial recon – no Japanese ships anchored in port, two Jap TF’s in harbor, 101 aircraft (37 fighters, 30 bombers), 7 Jap LCU’s.


China: Japanese ground bombardment at Sining continues. Latest AAR follows.

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Ground combat at Sining (80,32)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23320 troops, 253 guns, 111 vehicles, Assault Value = 771
Defending force 18913 troops, 105 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 638

Assaulting units:
17th Division
37th Division
1st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
259th Brigade
17th Chinese Corps
303rd Brigade
9th Separate Brigade
82nd Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Base Force
8th War Area
5th Chinese Base Force
12th Chinese Base Force

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